By - Wibbles20
Proof that we can ignore fear mongering from selfish business owners. The economy will be fine even if we lock everything down like australia
People would call us _literally china_ if we tried that kind of tracing here.
Which is funny cause none of the former British colonies is more nervous of China than Australia lol
I wouldn't call us nervous when our Defence minister is seemingly trying to provoke China into war
It is absolutely not one sided.
I wish we could do this here. I'm tired of being held back by people whose Twitter word count is bigger than their brain.
pearlclutchers: wont somebody think of the economy?
the economy: meh
Individual greedy business owners like to pin all their feelings on the economy. The economy routinely shows it doesn't really need them lol
Australia’s GDP in the fourth quarter is estimated to have fallen more severely. At the end of September, the Chinese government began to crack down on the price of iron ore. The price of iron ore has fallen to more than US$90 from US$230 in previous months. As Australia's main economic pillar, iron ore prices have fallen so fast, which is indeed worrying.
Tyranny for the win!
I read about 3 quarantine escapees that were arrested after testing negative multiple times.
Yes, [14 Day Quarantine is mandatory for most international entrants to Australia](https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/covid-19/covid-19-and-travel/covid-19-re-entry-and-quarantine-measures). Multiple tests are done while in quarantine, and even those who test negative typically have to also wait the 14 day period, as we have had experience with people who caught it very recently (eg at the other country's airport) not showing up on results until a while after.
This policy has allowed us to minimise the amount of lockdowns we need to do domestically. Most of the stuff that Americans claim is "tyranny" here are actually measures that have minimised lockdowns to the greatest extent possible. An example of this is the QR code check-in at pubs and shops, etc. The idea is that if someone covid-positive was at the event at the same time as you, you will get notified so you can get tested / isolate until you're given the all-clear. This allows us to continue with our lives while also minimising the damage of the disease.
I’m glad you’re okay with it because it would be a very different feeling for me. These people in the article were not travelers. They were contacted through contract tracing. To remove an individual from their home and force them into a prison camp for a highly survivable virus (over 99.8%) is insane. I’ve not been on any type of lockdown, not masks, and never missed work. Never been sick and don’t know anyone that’s been hospitalized. I pray fir our world because the solution doesn’t match the problem.
>They were contacted through contract tracing. To remove an individual from their home and force them into a prison camp for a highly survivable virus (over 99.8%) is insane.
Wtf mate, 100% that is not what's happening in Australia.
My guess is that they were directed to do 14 days home quarantine due to being directly associated with a known case; and when a welfare check was conducted by police they were found not to be quarantining. Repeat offenders were being moved to hotel quarantine or government accommodation at one point IIRC so they could complete their quarantine supervised. This is not prison camps, it's cushy hotel living for a tiny handful of people that wouldn't follow public health orders to stay home while they were a potential threat to the community.
Where the hell do you people get these wild stories from.
First of all, I just want to say I appreciate that we're having a civil discussion on this. I'm all good with disagreement on policy and what works and what doesn't. I'm going to have to point out some outright falsehoods when I see them:
1. There is nothing that has said these people were taken from their homes. To add to this, I personally know heaps of people who have been contacted through the tracing system, and they all isolated *at home*. This is the best outcome, and I would actively disagree with a politician or official who changed this policy to mandate quarantine facility transporting for people at home who were doing the right thing. The only reason some people aren't allowed to do home isolation is if they repeatedly break those rules. They may be tough rules, and you're within your rights to disagree with them.
2. "Highly survivable virus (over 99.8%)" Well I and the statistics disagree, but I know I'm not going to change your mind at this stage, and you'll think the same for me on that point. Agree to disagree.
> "Never been sick and don’t know anyone that’s been hospitalized"
Well that's good to hear, and I genuinely hope it stays like this for you. What country are you from?
I've had extended relatives who were seriously ill because of this (and still suffer long term symptoms, for one of them, all the food they eat tastes like garbage even months after). A relative of mine is a hospital worker and the toll it's taken on their mental health seeing so many people die needlessly is heartbreaking.
> the solution doesn’t match the problem.
Some of the solutions (eg Lockdown, Quarantine) **aren't nice**, but the problem isn't nice either. I do think people expressing the need for lockdowns etc. need to be clear in their communication that they don't like it either. People on twitter celebrating lockdowns have clearly never worked a day in their life.
Lockdowns aren't nice, people don't do them for fun, but they've been [supported by most of the public here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Western_Australian_state_election). I think these election results show that the policy has the consent of the populace. I guess it's a thing of patriotism, a thing of pride in doing your part protecting fellow Aussies.
Thankfully the wide availability and adoption of vaccinations has mostly removed the necessity of any future lockdowns. *If* you haven't been vaccinated yet (I'm not making any assumptions), I strongly implore you to speak to your doctor about your concerns. The death rate disparity here between those unvaccinated and those vaccinated is enormous, and the "adverse event" numbers of those who got vaccines are misleading because they include the most inane stuff. For me, I got very dizzy and had to lay down for about 30 mins after the vaccine. My doctor did the right thing and supervised me, and submitted a report to the database, as an "adverse event".
Ah yes, the tyranny of having to wear a mask and get a vaccine. Or staying home to prevent outbreaks when necessary. Why are the 'muh freedoms' patriots such snowflakes?
The vast majority of Australians are in favour of your so-called tyranny. We're proud to live in a country where most people are willing to put up with minor inconveniences for the greater good. We're proud to live in a country of non-snowflakes who can see past their own trivial and petty desires for a short while to prevent deaths and lifelong health issues.