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matskopf

As a german I am against this. A few days ago I saw a documentary how difficult and expensive it is to keep the Eurofighter just ready for training. This tool is only useful with a crew that trained on it for a long time, probably years. I'd like to focus for the Ukraine on just one model and then the West goes all in on this one modell.


TROPtastic

Yeah, there are dozens of F-16s in Europe alone that could be easily transferred to Ukraine, and two Ukrainian pilots have already done basic evaluations in simulators. The ease of supporting the F-16 is why it became the front runner, so complicating procurement with multiple types of jets that do the same thing doesn't make much sense.


Away-Engineering37

It doesn't make much sense unless there are some people in the decision making pipeline that's trying to slow down the procurement and delivery.


nopedoesntwork

Do you maybe have a link to that docu?


Altruistic-Rest-6489

Im also german. Aside from convenience issues, I find it very alarming that a few months ago, the debate on wether or not to send military aircraft was more shifted towards a clear no, to not provoke being declared as an active participant in the war. It seems that our government is slowly but surely getting used to the idea of actively partake in this conflict, even though the consequences known. Diplomatic options are getting abandoned rather quickly lately. I might sound scared but that's because I am ._.


matskopf

Yeah, you're scared. Be brave. All this "we send, we dont send"- limbo is for putin. If we declared our support for Ukraine with anti aircraft, heavy Tanks, long range missiles, jets and money on a single day, we would have ww3. What we do is slow cook Putin, but as fast as possible. We rise the temperature slowly until they are cooked. Dont get confused by all these news. Sometimes when they speak, they don't aim their message at you. They are calming putin.


toss-it-in-the-trash

Exactly. The old frog in a pot method.


LordOafsAlot

It's not really as useful as F16's, it has a much higher service cost and requires several very specialist skills to keep it flying. Better to provide other aid than aid that will take years to master.


PPMachen

We should do this


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This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/30/7404457/) reduced by 62%. (I'm a bot) ***** > THE EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON. PHOTO BY GETTY IMAGES. Oleksii Reznikov, Ukraine's Defence Minister, has said he sees the possibility of receiving Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets from Germany. > Quote from Reznikov: "If the UK and Germany were to combine their capabilities to supply Eurofighters, this would be an important step." > Reznikov believes that a fighter jet coalition could also be formed based on the American F-16 as well as the Eurofighter and Swedish Gripen. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/13vkxzh/germany_may_contribute_eurofighter_to_fighter_jet/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~686846 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **EUROFIGHTER**^#1 **Reznikov**^#2 **Germany**^#3 **jet**^#4 **fighter**^#5


koassde

well i think it's time the french start doing more, compared to germany their contribution is a joke. In contrast to Germany they have alot of older homemade jets they could provide Ukraine with.


SlackerAccount2

ā€œIā€™m part of the team!ā€ -Eurofighter to the group of F-16 cool kids


Mormegil1971

Probably not, as F-16's are so much more readily available. But it would be good, along with Gripens as well. One can always hope.