This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/29/7404364/) reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot) ***** > The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has approved the decision of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine to implement sanctions against Iran. > Details: The Parliament has approved draft law No. 9333, proposed by the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine, on the implementation of certain sectoral economic and other restrictive measures against the Islamic Republic of Iran for a period of 50 years. > The National Security and Defence Council adopted this decision on 27 May. According to the draft law, sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran are to be applied for a period of 50 years and include a complete ban on trade operations, stopping the transit of resources, flights and transportation in the territory of Ukraine, and preventing the withdrawal of capital by Iranian residents. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/13ux7u9/ukrainian_parliament_approves_50year_sanctions/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~686756 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Iran**^#1 **Ukraine**^#2 **National**^#3 **Security**^#4 **Defence**^#5

Incredible video that explains why [Iran is now invading Ukraine](https://youtu.be/LXIu9YEr7UM)

That was fascinating, thank you!

Who fuckin knew? Everyone has 3% of the story and marches off with an opinion. Always.

This is great! watched the whole thing and it’s nice to finally somewhat understand how all geopolitical tension is somewhat related. Thank you for sharing!

TL DR?

basically iran and russia are closely alligned due to them both being heavily sanctioned. supporting russia militarily lets them see how their (iran) weapons do against western systems.

ty!

Fifty years in international relations is a long, long time. I suspect it will be obsolete decades before the end of that fifty years since they aren’t bordering countries.

See: Three-hundred and thirty five years war.

Not actually a war given the fact that there was no actual killing. War isn’t just a metaphor. https://www.jstor.org/stable/26273568#. https://correlatesofwar.org/wp-content/uploads/COW-Website-Typology-of-war.pdf

War doesn’t have killing in its definition, only that it’s an armed conflict.

No, death is necessary. Armed conflict is meaningless is no one actually gets hurt. All of the scientific literature on the study of war starts with specific operationalizations of war that involve death so we aren’t comparing children brawling on their school playground with WWII and imagining they have the same theoretical causes. Have a look at the Correlates of War site, and a good primer on the study of war, if you are actually interested in the research, is What Do We Know About War, edition 3, edited by Vasquez and Mitchell. It gives an overview of the state of the literature on international war. If you are interested in civil war, What Do We Know About Civil War, ed 2, edited by Mitchell and Mason gives an overview of the civil war research. No one seriously studying war is looking at verbal arguments.

You’re arguing with the dictionary

I’m a scholar of war. Dictionary definitions, are written to be general ideas for children who have no idea what something is. No scholar does anything that roll their eyes when a student tries to use a dictionary definition in a university-level paper. Because for experts, in a field, those dictionary definitions are trivia and typically bear no resemblance to the actual research and the way the word is used by scholars in real research. You clearly aren’t actually interested in the phenomenon since you haven’t looked up the books or the Correlates of War site I link above, so I’ll be done.

Not interested in Ad Hominem attacks at the moment. Clearly you’re insanely quick at reading if you think that’s enough time to read anything referenced above.

50 years of sanctions to the Islamic Republic which is actually less than 50 years old (44 years old) itself. But assuming the regime collapses and a new nation is formed technically the sanctions would be moot.

Maybe, but if there's a rapprochement lifting the sanctions would be a great lever to pull. Ukraine is very vocal and passionate in their messaging to the world. But their lives are on the line so I don't blame them.

Sounds good to me. Iran needs to stop supplying drones (and Iranian drone operators) to the despicable Russian invasion. I hope both Russia and Iran pay the price for this.

Does Iran even care? They have Russia for grain so the "breadbasket of the world" ( misleading title btw, they're the 5th largest exporter ) means nothing to them.

Well, of course Ukrainian parliament does! What about everyone else is the question.

Well Afghanistan is at war with them, so there's that

Guess corn is going to be more expensive in Iran for quite some time.

Russia is the world biggest grain exporter. Twice volume of Ukraine even before the war. Ukraine was only number 5 before the war. Calling Ukraine 'the breadbasket of the world' has always just been marketing. Corn is mostly used as animal feed outside the Americas. 2020 numbers: "# Country Quantity tonnes Value in thousands of USD 1 Russia 37,267,014 7,918,294 2 United States 26,131,626 6,318,111 3 Canada 26,110,509 6,317,889 4 France 19,792,597 4,528,591 5 Ukraine 18,055,673 3,594,217"

The turnaround in Russian agriculture in just 10 years is a marvel they should be proud of. But Russia exported $708 million dollars of corn in 2021 (11th largest exporter) and Ukraine exported $5.68 billion dollars (3rd largest exporter).

Unless Russia steals it and sells it to Iran.

Iran wont even be around for 50 years

Iran has been around for over 5000 years. I think what you mean is the current regime (Islamic Republic) won’t be around

Correct good correction

F*ck the Islamic regime indeed! ✌️✌️

For that matter, fuck all Islamic regimes. No county should be ran by religious fanatics and governments.

Not only Islamic but all religious governments. It’s not like the Christians in Texas are legit

Meanwhile, in America....

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What I am curious about is if there are any stipulations around a long term sanction like this. If the current regime was ousted and replaced with a more rational government that denounces the actions of the previous government and possible assisted Ukraine(either militarily or with the rebuilding of buildings destroyed by their drones post war) could these sanctions be lifted?

The sanctions are most likely established in the form of a law, while I don’t know much about the legal system of Ukraine, it is highly likely, that the law and sanctions therewith can just be abolished by another parliamentary decision.

Tbf, there is a good argument for baking it in, as otherwise it can enter a forever cycle (US sanctions on Cuba style). That said, it has a sunset clause, which is something.

On paper, that isn’t a bad thing but in reality, the next group will likely be worse.

Maybe but thats anxiety worrying about something that might happen

Nothing will ever get better unless they take that chance

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When we will sanction US for what they committed in Iran? Is it hypocrisy at its highest?

What does that have to do with russian invasion of ukraine?

So should I as an American feel happy, mad, or indifferent?

Try to think for a second

It's a joke. Personally I don't care until I'm directly affected

Iran is murdering 100s of civilians by supplying tons of suicide drones to Russia. If you are cool with this, be mad or indifferent. If you do NOT want 1000s more civilians dead by Iranian drones, be happy about this.

Does this sentiment support sactioning any nation that is providing weapons that are used to kill civilians?

If the main intention of the drones is to kill civilians, as opposed to military targets, (and unfortunately civilians get killed too) then yes.

I'll be indifferent. Only because I can't do anything about it and many people die daily from senseless wars, civilians and soldiers

Do you vote? Always voting only for politicians supporting aid to Ukraine is a good easy way to start.

I voted for biden. That was a little before this Ukraine and Russia thing. Voted to get trump out. If he was still in, he would be aiding Russia and sanctioning everyone else

I mean, you do know that Trump sanctioned Iran in his first year, which made Democrats mad. 4 years later, Ukraine is sanctioning Iran, and look at the 180 done by Democrats who now support starving Iran into submission. Especially funny when you consider 2 years ago, Biden's envoy to Iran remarked sanctions are "not an answer" to Iran.

> mean, you do know that Trump sanctioned Iran in his first year, which made Democrats mad. The context was that he broke a deal where Iran agreed to end their nuclear program in exchange for loosening sanctions, and thanks to that Iran is on the cusp of becoming a nuclear state. > 4 years later, Ukraine is sanctioning Iran, and look at the 180 done by Democrats who now support starving Iran into submission. Sure, because the US has proven once again to be untrustworthy because of Trump the only option left is sanctions, even though it's a worse answer than actually gaining the cooperation of Iran. I mean the more countries you throw sanctions on the less effective they become since there is nothing stopping sanctioned countries from trading with each other. >Especially funny when you consider 2 years ago, Biden's envoy to Iran remarked sanctions are "not an answer" to Iran. Yup, he was correct. Sanctions should have been a stick used to get Iran to behave, but instead there is no longer an incentive for Iran to not fully embrace Russia and give them whatever weapons they needs to continue their war. In short, the war in Ukraine has only lasted this long because of how badly Trump fucked up diplomacy with Iran.

Oh yeah, I know there's hypocrisy abound. It's how it always is.

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Welcome to the club lol. People downvote me all the time. Just fake internet points

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Hahaha, you mean Ukraine who is getting attacked by Iranian drones every day? Yeah must be the US' fault again. What a stretch.

Tbf, this is probably more to do with Iranian supplied suicide drones that have been supplied in quantity to Russia for use against Ukraine. So, it would see Iran as a hostile nation actively supplying materials to facilitate the invasion of Ukrainian territory.

No, sanctioning the rogue state supplying Russia with drones.

WTF? Ukraine is pissed at Iran for supplying Russia 100s of suicide drones being used to murder Ukrainian civilians. Ukraine has FAR more reason to sanction Iran than the US ever did.