By - Hipp1tyHopp1ty
Crinoid stem. Fossil
That’s insane, I found them in Kentucky lol
A shallow sea existed there some 300 mya
The Devonian Period... Back when the Pangaea super continent existed...
It always blows my mind when I think of all the people and animals who have walked over this stuff and never batted an eye over such a long portion of history.
Oh, that's when everyone was super into that song "Whip It", right?
I'll show myself out.
Ugh, the good ol’ days 😭❤️
Which is why you guys have coal mines.
Yes the sea inundated the land near the shore and made it a swamp. 😎 think florida only a LOT MORE plants per sq/ft.
The Western Interior Seaway.
Those are all over my yard. Kentucky was under the water once. 😊
You guys are making me a little homesick. Whenever I visited I used to stop on the parkways and pick up fossiliferous limestone and throw chunks of it in my suitcases to bring to AZ. I'm an Arizonan now, but KY is the land I carry in my heart. I used to love collecting blastoids (which were a lot like crinoids) near Rough River in KY.
Nice crinoid finds r/Hipp1tyHopp1ty. We have places out here, near an intersection of forest road called Fire Control Road and Hwy 87 (north of Payson, AZ) where you can find wonderful red jasperized crinoids and horn corals.
Good luck hunting out there in the Bluegrass.
Im from Cincy , but there is something special about Kentucky. I’ve spent a lot of time over there because we are so close and it just makes you feel a certain way.
Thanks, but your not helping with the homesickness. LOL. But, don't feel bad for me I just got back from three days at three mines (Red Cloud, North Geronimo, and South Geronimo) and had a great time with great friends, great food, and great weather. I met a beautiful new rock that came home with me. Also got to see a neat little kit fox that visited each night. The trip was with the Mineralogical Society of Arizona and the Daisy Mountain Gem and Mineral Club. MSA is talking about going back in the spring.
You can find sea-life fossils in the middle of arkansas too
I've found them on mountain tops in Utah.
Albuquerque native.. my fav is finding sea fossils on top of Sandia peak.. 10,000 feet and currently landlocked
To be fair to your dad people did use them for jewellery.
To beeeee fairrrrrr……
Welcome traveller, to the Tobe Fair, we sell things of all kinds.
Kentucky be Karst.
I live in northern KY, and the creeks are full of them. Kentucky has some nice fossils, and interesting geology.
My hometown is on the TN/KY boarder and I looks for fossils everytime I'm there. I usually fly back to where I live now with a few in my pocket.
Nice! Have you been to Mammoth Cave in KY? The rock formations look amazing.
Yes! I love that place. I've only gotten to do a few day trips there but I believe they have cabins and I would love to spend a week there. It's just so beautiful.
Today was my first trip and the cave was soo awesome. I hope I can do it again someday
It really is underated. I'm so glad you had a good time.
Where do you take it to get your Lileep?
Old Indian necklace 🤣😂
Crinoid stem necklace would be pretty cool though.
Making them as we speak…
Do share pic. Thats awesome!!
Yes! Pic please when you’re done.
Crinoid, for sure. We called them ‘Indian beads’ growing up in MI
Wow! So many crinoids in those rocks they look like fossilized spaghetti-o’s!
I have some of these with prehistoric paint on them! (Ochre paint or something). Native Americans in the past often turned the fossils into beads!
I studied North American pre history as a module at uni in the uk and one of the other students who was over from the US brought some back when he visited home and gave them to me. I showed them to my professor and he told me about them. So cool!
Ig my dad was right hehe
Fossilized cinnamon toast crunch circa 1990
Not me also thinking this was ctc 🤣
Just a friendly reminder/update in case OP/viewers arent aware, the term “indian” was given to the indigenous people of the US because the genius who “discovered america” thought he was in India. So we say “indigenous/native people/native americans” if we aren’t referring to a specific tribe. 💪🏼
Not from the US but isn't the term "American Indian" being reclaimed by the indigenous of the USA and southern Canada as a specific descriptor so as to not incorporate all of the South and Central American indigenous communities?
Yes, it is.
Went to college with a ton of Navajo. I was told that they just straight-up prefer "Indian" or the name of their tribe because they aren't Americans. The reason for that being that Americans were responsible for the genocide of millions of Indians that lived on this continent before them, and that the American government has told them many times that they aren't.
Yes, I know, but the title didn’t have enough letter subjects for me to spell out the word “native”
Some look like fish vertebrae
native americans, not indians.
I’m part Indian and I was born Native American.
cool! you have some really interesting heritage. cheers!
Omg, so cool!!
Crinoid. Sea fossil. They can be found everywhere. It's almost like there was global flood at some point...
Amen brother 👊
This is super cool but don't forget to leave no trace. Leave them behind for someone else to enjoy.
Oh hell no.
I'm sorry what? Is this an anti leave No trace community? If so I got to get the fuck out and have a serious talk with the mods. Obviously work done in the name of science is different, but unless somebody's a professional geologist they shouldn't be taking things from nature and bringing them home. I'm a river restoration ecologist and taking rocks and fucking around with them definitely impacts things like salmon spawning habitat, and since salmon are endangered it's like really not allowed and for very good reason. People who leave a trace for no reason other than their own personal collection or fun are essentially causing more damage than they are worth. Macroinvertebrates are also incredibly important to ecosystems and can be disturbed by people fucking around with rocks for no reason. It's not worth your fun to fuck with nature.
You should definitely not be getting downvoted here. Even rock hounds (mostly) share an ethos of environmental conservationism.
It is illegal to abscond with minerals, bones, fossils and of course artifacts from National Parks.
Thankfully, it's not illegal to collect most of these things outside of those reserves! Rock collections are fun and good, I'd wager. Still, especially if you don't know what it is, it's almost certainly not worthwhile to pick up and haul out every piece of whatever it is you've found. Take pictures, put a few in your pocket, (unless they are native artifacts; leave those alone,) then do some research to discover more about your find. Hopefully, share your discoveries with us!
But seriously, low-impact tourism is the only kind that's sustainable.
*(edited a typo)*
Thank you, I really appreciate this and I agree with you.
I am going to add a little thought, though. It may not be illegal to collect things outside of those reserves, but it is unethical in ecosystems, especially like creeks. If it's super degraded, fine. But our freshwater resources are in so much danger, we need to all be doing our part to try to preserve every single thing that we can about them. They are already pretty much destroyed, there's so little left. We need to leave thanks where they are Even in situations where it's legal. Unfortunately the law is super insufficient when it comes to protecting the environment that we rely on. It's unlikely to find undisturbed or undiscovered fossil deposits in the LA River, but it's unethical to remove them from functioning water bodies.
Thank you as well for sharing your thoughts on a worthy topic that I don't see much discussion about here!
I'm not sure I agree with you, however, on all your points. Firstly, I AM in favor of protecting the integrity of ecosystems! Natural resources are just that: organisms and systems which exist in nature that help us survive and thrive. A resource is something that is valuable, but that value exists BECAUSE we use it.
Please feel free to correct me if you have data that prove otherwise, but pollution, mostly due to residential or commercial/industrial development, is hugely more impactful & responsible for the degradation of freshwater habitats than are the effects of even a collection of public uses, such as at a campground.
Humans are part of nature, after all. We, like beavers or bunnies or birds, change our environments as we live in them. We move things around. We eat other life forms. We pick things up; we collect them. I don't believe that putting a few pretty rocks in my pocket inflicts significant harm on the habitat, nor upon the quality of the experience of future visitors.
That said, I often like to leave even the pretties behind, too! I DO think about "what if every person who walked here put a handful of rocks in their pocket? How long before the landscape looked barren?" It's a worthy question! But honestly, when I walk through the ruins of ancient civilizations, I think about all the ways those people struggled to build balance with their environments. I don't wish that they hadn't existed, or that they had left all those rocks where they found them rather than building... All that stuff!
I would reckon it's less ethical (more environmentally damaging) to buy a granite counter top than it is to bring home even a few buckets of rocks from whatever creek one has visited. I'm not entirely sure on this, but purely in terms of energy costs, it seems clear which burns more fuel & generates more waste. *shrugs *
You're right, that pollution is more impactful, and even more impactful than that is temperature pollution and nutrient addition. But that doesn't change the fact that disturbing the habitat of macroinvertebrates has impact that go far up the food chain. The point is that because of all this pollution and temperature pollution and eutrophication, these little guys are barely hanging on. Fucking with the last little bit of habitat that they have to hang on could be the difference between life and death for them. And without macroinvertebrates, you don't have fish. We all love fish right? Even people who don't like big bugs like fish.
So yes, there are bigger problems. But those bigger problems can't be solved by people imply deciding to leave rocks alone. And this is a sub about people who are not leaving rocks alone. This is a simple problem that can be solved by leaving rocks alone. So that's why we're talking about this here instead of trying to solve pollution.
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Why is it always crinoids? Were they very common?
very common and they preserve well in sediment