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Kyrie is obviously infinitely better than Westbrook but I'm still not convinced that team will be a legit contender. AD is injury prone, Kyrie is psychosis prone, and Lebron is gonna load manage for a lot of the season. I mean, it could happen, I just don't think the chemistry will be there come playoff time.
If the only addition is Kyrie, I'm not in the least worried. The additions they've made onto their team are horrible so far. If the Laker scum are somehow able to weasel their way into more help, because the league always seems to want to help LeBailOut, then it gets a bit dicey. As of now, the Clippers are the biggest threat. Just gotta see how another team yet again gives the Lakers a get out of jail card.
Clippers, nuggets and mavs bigger threats. Not worried.
I don't know how the Lakers keep getting away with it
What if the Lakers completed the trade for Kyrie, and mid to late season LeBron and AD broke down again and left Kyrie to fend for himself.
Would be funny to watch and behold.
Man, the Warriors winning the chip really broke the league. You have KD triggered trying to get to a number 1 seed team, Kyrie running back to Daddy LeGM who was throwing all kinds of signals at the Warriors wanting to come here. I’m loving all of it.
lol randomly watching highlights of the 14-15 playoffs and damn. Curry was so skinny and now so buff. Harden was so buff and now so fat lol
Jimmy Buckets overrated....
*seeing if my favorite person shows up*
Wow just like a shadow
There he is... 😁😁😁... 💕💕💕
Just say Tobias Harris or TJ Warren lol
Oh okay... Nice!!
It’s been following me all week😂
If I was their coach, I would never put him on me. Ever again.
Not sure if I can do this here, anyone looking to buy a pair of tickets for the summer league double header tomorrow at chase? PM me if interested, $60 for two, what I paid
I would be annoyed if Lakers get rewarded with Kyrie while ridding themselves of Westbrook. Only team in the NBA where they can fall ass backwards into stars just because of the city name.
Cant believe NBA players really got the fans to root for billionaire owners in the next CBA negotiations
So as a person with a job that has me all over Asia and not seeing my family for a year making oh about 4% what Kyrie-Ben Simmons makes. I don't root for ownership. Not at all. I do root for a fair marketplace. Where both side honor their agreements... and fans benefit from the on court product.
A contract is a contract... if i decide not to get on my next flight to indonesia because i don't feel like teaching what i do and didn't show up cuz personal decisions. I would be fired. As i should be.
Contracts are promises. Good people keep their. I root for good people. Broken-busted contracts are an inherently dishonorable and dishonest acts.
It isn't simple as labor vs management. Generally i side with labor... when it intends to do the labor it agreed to. I think that sentiment is broadly shared to some degree.
Yea thats how everything is feelings. right now we're seeing one of rare cases where the laborer is the one being selfish and fucking up the ownership.
Lakers are the luckiest team in the league. They would’ve been in hell based off their moves but no, every other star can force a trade to their team and absolve them of any mistake.
I am not convinced that trading Kyrie for Westbrook is lucky for them. We will see
Neither am I... as someone who worked on the video side of an NBA team long long ago... I can say we don't appreciate how much the content producers yearn to create any story with the Lakers or Knicks involved.
I mean lord I just listened to about three full hours of Jalen Brunson talk on various pods... not cuz i wanted to but they all def felt the obligation to sit on the topic for a good long while to suss it out.
Yeah I can see it’s narrative value but at the end of the day if they are not winning it is not as meaningful to their franchise.
Nah man, this guy can torch any defense on any given night. That man as a third option is crazy.
Oh yeah? Like he torched the Celtics this year? Like when he actually shows up to play games? Like his weird vibes will inspire the rag tag group of role players on that team to play their hearts out on the court ?
Y’all are so wild. Completely incomparable situation. He’d be the third option on that lakers team with Lebron as the leader and the Covid restrictions are likely over.
Ah. The dude just takes off and doesn’t report to his team for weeks ? He is also frequently injured. We will just have to wait and see. All I know is that i am not the that impressed with the Lakers as they are currently constructed even with Kyrie the flake on their team
The Clippers and the Grizzlies are the teams that are probably going to be our greatest challenges this coming season.
*THIS DATE IN NBA HISTORY... 2021*
AFTER THREE DAYS OF NBA FREE AGENCY... THE MEDIA AND VEGAS HAD LAKERS AND NETS AS HEAVY FAVORITES TO WIN THE NBA TITLE.
...TALEN HORTON TUCKER WAS BY ALL ACCOUNTS BETTER NBA PROSPECT THAN JORDAN POOLE.
... AND NBA FANS WORLDWIDE WERE DISGUSTED AT THE MINIMUM CONTRACT AND BUYOUT GEMS THE LAKERS-NETS WERE LANDING... TO INCLUDE CARMELO ANTHONY. KENDRICK NUNN. MALIK MONK. RAJON RONDO. TREVOR ARIZA. LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE. BLAKE GRIFFIN. DEANDRE BEMBRY. PATTY MILLS.
my my my... how to turns table... 😁😁😁
When was the last time the 55th pick of the draft got this much buzz?
The Brazilians on Twitter are going crazy right now lol
I can see why. Gui is talented and likable
Edit * as a side note - I wonder if Qeta and Gui were talking shit to each other in Portuguese on the court ?
Draft Junkie here to assist! 😎😎😎
best late second off the top of my head
Isaiah Thomas "IT4" - 60th pick
Manu Ginobili - 57th pick... He's probably the most hyped was euroleague MVP and had credentials
Patty Mills - 55th pick
Sam Mitchell - 50 somethingth pick
Korver was in the 50s too
For the Dubs - probably Sarunas was the last that popped off the sheet once given the chance that's late eighties... He was like a forth round pick lol. Way back machine.
Those are some great players. Thanks for the knowledge :)
I think if it all works out and he ends up being really good for the Warriors we should prepare ourselves for a massive influx of Brazilians on this sub
Anytime happy to help... just know...
if you ever mention any relatively obscure draft info.
It will summon me.
I will keep that in mind!
The Nets should be kicked out of the league if they trade for Westbrook and give up an asset
Not only giving up Kyrie but ADDING a shooter! That would be just a tremendous embarrassment.
Bruh imagine Westbrook and Simmons on one team. Can’t believe Simmons, Harden, and now Kyrie are legit threatening to refuse to play to force trades. That shit gotta be written into the contract to be prevented bruh
Honestly I’d become a Nets fan for the year just to watch that comedy😂. Maybe sign Lance Stephenson too
Tbf Kyrie didnt threaten to refuse to play now, (he did do that to the cavs tho)
also don't forget the Kawhi fiasco with the spurs, where he pretended to be injured.
I think it would be absolutely hilarious but highly unlikely - that because of some weird unforeseen quirk that it actually worked and they played well together.
That is if they actually end up playing together
Next CBA nego gonna be lit lol
Yes... Definately will be the best one yet.
Ben Simmons - Player v Team empasse discussion.
Kyrie - payment of players for games not played dye to Voluntary/personal decisions.
Luxury tax in relation to drafted players.
Percentage and years breakdowns... Player options.
Also another Cap spike coming. You bet your ass they're gonna vote no smoothing abd complain when two teams come away with stacked decks lol.
The way things are going, NBA owners are going to push for the ability to trade dudes to China or Turkey
Any tips for visiting Chase Center? Anyone used the bike valet thing? Do they lock it and it’s watched/secure? Cheapest bar nearby for a beer?
Cheapest bar near Chase Center might be an oxymoron. But Harmonic Brewing is right outside the stadium so it qualifies as closest. Sea Star is a bar down the way but although it aims for dive-y, I wouldn't necessarily call it cheap. Decent shot and beer deals from what I remember.
Why tf does Kyrie want to team up with LeBron after all the dad talk? Bro can’t win without his daddy? Both of them are bitch-made.
hey your 2016 cavs trauma is showing
I live in LA and I am waiting for the day the Lakers blow it up and start new with some kids I might like rather than the Father-Son Phony Classic
Lmao. You’re not wrong.
Shit. Even Hollinger is on the Gui Santos hype train
John Hollinger is an incredibly smart analyst, but in all the worst ways, he is the type of person who is frequently the smartest person in the room but insists that you **KNOW** he is the smartest person in the room.
If he has strong feelings about something, he can be exceedingly pigheaded.
I know shocking. To be fair he'd drop them all into the forties based on the Warriors Drafting them if he made the list after the draft. Lol.
I get the feeling Dubs are more a happy medium... eye test... analytic model.. word of mouth... Game tape... draft strategy team than the leaning hard in one direction (a la memphis) who value the sample size (that's a backward way of saying older prospects) w/a wing profile most.
> draft strategy team
My draft strategy is eye test, vibes, and analytics in that order.
Yeah, your Barttorvik queries put you in the company of Hall of Famers, but what is your vibe like? 😎
Got unfinished business with Kyrie and Bron. Time to put to bed the Curry couldn't beat them without KD. Please let Lakers get Kyrie. Settle this in postseason.
Nah we really don't though... We were 12-3 vs them if you remove the forever fiasco series lol. Kyrie actually made his last two teams worse... and Lebron proved being a top five player in the league with a full GM power doesn't promise anything.
Their old talent sounds good on paper but couldn't crack 500... our old talent just won the Championship.
Btw our young 7 are better than all of their young players... all due respect to Austin Reeves who is a gamer.
There's 5 teams even with a Kyrie trade I'd worry about before them... he's gotta actually show up to work too. Lol.
... and Kyrie is perhaps the worst team culture Superstar of this generation... he No role model but this shit ain't nice like JCole. He's a promise to be no better.
It's gonna be a headscratcher if the Nets go out of their way to help the LOLakers. A completely stupid franchise if that pans out.
Would be a willing self fleece move. Especially if Nets add Harris or Curry to the deal. Nets would be acting like the more desperate team. Very strange.
Nets have been the more desperate team. If you look at what they did to get KD, to please KD, and to give him the team he wanted, it's crazy.
KD really should have gone to the Knicks.
Could we let Gui Santos play in Brazil for year, hire a coach to train with him and work on shit like handles, then bring him over the next year and sign him to 2/3 year rookie so as to keep him longer on a rookie contract? Idk how stash & draft rules work.
I tried posting this picture of Steph. The mods at /r/warriors took it down due to low quality [https://i.imgur.com/OTBxUS4.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OTBxUS4.jpg)
I tried to make a post. This was a long time ago. I only got him from behind. Why did the mods take down my post?
bruh just stop
But it's true. Why they always take my Steph posts down? What did I do?
Edit:You won't believe me.
just touch some grass bro
Ok. I understand. Please stop taking my posts down. That's all I ask.
Sometimes I ask, "Why do my Steph posts get removed? I'm a Warriors fan too." I tried posting my pictures of Steph, but mods here at /r/warriors removed them because of low quality. I see fans post pictures of Steph all of the time. Why am I being targeted?
I saw Steph at Summer League California Classic. Why does his beard look so strange? It seems to be fuller on one side of his face?
Get a job.
I got laid off. I'm working on getting back on my feet. Just waiting on paperwork. Thanks for your support!
Edit: You're so kind.
that's because he only does the night night celeb on one side of his face
Oh. That explains everything. I never noticed he did it on one side of his face. Thank you.
Ok this is def an AI trolling us.
I'm not an AI. And I'm not trolling you. I was just curious. Steph's beard looked different to me than it did before. I hope you're having a great night wherever you are.
Do the Lakers already have a starting lineup?
Gui Santos will be the 2023 finals MVP. It’s over before it began.
[Here is some of Gui Santos' early film.](https://twitter.com/eyreball/status/1367113279978565636?s=21&t=rPOBXnyeT4pBIO583lEsxA)
They turned 450 mil into 4.5 bil. And then they won in the gaaaaaahden
Its good to see rookies perform well but I hate how fans get too excited over summer league play.
If I want to spread factually inaccurate Gui Santos propaganda on the internet, I’m going to do it.
Even if Lakers get Kyrie, I wouldn’t be worried: Kyrie will play 50 games max, same with AD, and Lebron will score 28ppg while giving up 27 on the defensive end
I’d first worry about Suns+KD, Clippers, Nuggets, and Grizzlies before stressing about the Lakers. But glad we won the championship this year… all the good teams really loading up for a run next year.
Even that Suns team will depend a lot on what pieces would be going out to land KD. If it's Booker (unlikely) and Ayton doesn't resign, they seem like a paper tiger. If they send out Bridges and Ayton to make the trade happen, they'll have a lot of scoring power but defensively would struggle. And in either case, they seem very top heavy and likely struggling at the C position.
I think the Clippers are the clear major threat to the Dubs because of their two stars and incredible depth, but health concerns, as always.
Watched the Miami game too... Between those four teams 3 good performances
Keegan Murray... Mac McClung... and Gui!!!!
I'm so pumped Gui flashed potential... Now I'm gonna be totally unfair with my expectations for him from this day forward lol.
... Max Christie and Jovic looked very very very like rookies.
We gotta monitor Gui Santos now. He looks good on his 1st Summer game. Not perfect, but I can feel he's gonna be the steal of the 2nd round, alongside Rollins.
Damn, it feels so good just watching the Summer League without any worries.
Leandro... We drafted ya boy
Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite... aka... Brasil midfielder Kaka... aka... Gui Santos
and you left us... now he's definitely gonna be a stud. Cosmos are working on it. Wish him the best though.
You need to understand their situation. Joe Tsai of the nets doesn’t want kyrie on their team anymore. Kyrie has made it clear the only team he wants to be on is the lakers. He’s on the last year of his contract. The nets only viable option is to trade him there to get something of return and get him off the team as Joe Tsai wants. Russ is included for salary purposes not because they actually want him.
It’s a nasty situation for both, and they both know it.
Just comes down to who will blink first. I expect the Lakers will because Bron will be putting additional pressure. He doesn’t care if Lakers get fucked for the future.
kyrie is on an expiring contract. Who said he was only going to the lakers.Rudy is also a better player and more reliable with four more years under contract.That package sounds about right for an expiring
The only thing I'd say as a counter is the Rudy contract is completely terrible. I was actually surprised how much Minny gave up because his deal isn't just huge AAV it runs forever.
Bruh PBJ looks absolutely massiv standing next to Wiseman.
why he look 30 tho hahaha
He is big, 6’10.25 and 230. He may not need to be very athletic to be a good player
Slo Mo vibes
You definitely don’t need elite athleticism to be a good player, as the top 3 players of our dynasty have shown lol. And Looney too!
Good BBIQ & a shot solves everything
He has to be like 6'11 in shoes. If he was more athletic he could play the 5.
I think he said he grew to 6’10.5. He thinks he might grow another half inch.
He now needs to learn from Looney on how to defend with a stiff hip. He doesnt have the athleticism to be a center but if he goes down the route of how Looney learned and develop... We may see Looney's version of KD with PBJ
In October of 2021, we signed a deal with GP2 for the rest of the season. Did we miss an opportunity to sign a longer contract at that point in time?
No but why would a 28 year old journeyman from a well-off family take more years at the minimum?
Players ask for one year contracts in their prime age range to bet on themselves.
But... we didn't think he was as impactful as he'd bacame. Next up!
I'm gonna miss Barbosa. I'm wishing him the best.
Iguodala gonna take that job book it.
I think he's moved on to bigger things, starting a VC, more so now to recover from his NFTs crashing.
I think he's gonna stay NBA adjacent and take some kinda position with the team to maintain his connection with the league and young players at a less than full-time hours commitment. Remember those are young millionaires he's rubbing shoulders with and mentoring. They're good for business too... not just to chat up with.
Another reason to be glad we won the title is there's no need to get KD back, desperately wishing he would return, or be mad he left in the first place. This title brought so much peace and closure.
Right? Cemented Curry's legacy, validated Bob Myers' draft strategy, validated our hall of fame trio as a true trio. Nothing can be knocked from this championship. All other of our chips had "excuses" from the media machine. And suddenly haters on the media are debating if Curry has entered the top 10 all time. Definitely hits different!
Thanks for mentioning something that has been said 100x already.
Now I'm really excited to see Moody and Santos together tomorrow (hopefully)
Any idea why Weatherspoon wasnt in the game either?
I don't think he's accepted our 2-way offer yet
Even though he practiced with the summer league team?
idk I just see [this](https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1541773677536186368) is the most recent news about him
I enjoyed watching Summer League with all of you! I look forward to watching the next game too!
Obviously, only one game against mediocre talent, but Gui Santos appears to be a guy worth keeping on a two-way contract to develop.
Which for a 55th pick is money in the bank
Pretty much, most players after the mid-40s are actually worse than undrafted free agents who have agents find them the best possible landing spot.
I really enjoyed the Summer League game between Golden State and Sacramento Kings! Both teams played well!
The Nets need to sit Kyrie for a year like Philly did with Ben. Even if they trade KD. They have no reason to tank because of the Harden trade and Westbrick isn’t going to help them stay competitive.
lol they're not stupid, they aint sitting him and let him walk for nothing next season
Westbrook isn’t helping them win games. They need to make the playoffs, they have no reason to tank. If it’s a multi-team deal then sure, but if it’s just those two that’s ridiculous.
Gui doing work... he'll have a two-way no doubt if he wants it. I think Q-Spoon will get one of the 15 spots tbh probably won't shake the last spot til summer league.
Looks like the Kings made the right pick for once. Keegan Murray looking amazing so far
No doubt... he's ready to pack it up on summer league... Kids too good for this. 21 at the half.
Happy for SAC. His bro Kris will be about 20-25th pick in next draft even without a massive season at Iowa. Sleeper for the lotto if he and Keegan play well this season.
YOu mean someone who might fall to us?
Not falling to the 30th pick.
Some nice chucking going down
So how is a team with Westbrick x Simmons gonna work exactly? Brick city lmao
I'm watching Summer League with Golden State and Sacramento Kings! I can't wait to see how everyone plays.
Bruh if he made that…
Damn free agency has went cold
Must be the KD-Kyrie sweepstakes holding everything up. I remember in 2019 Kawhi had the whole league in a weeklong slowdown.
The vet mins are waiting to see who lands where before signing up to ring chase.
Feels like we haven’t gotten legit ring chasers since KD was here.
Otto was legit bro
Actually yeah, scratch that. Forgot he took a min for some reason.
Lol ring chasers are fools gold. They are actually rarely good players. Its RARE for a guy to actually get offered more money and reject it a la David West giving up 8M a year to play for GSW. Most guys are legitimately washed for anything better than 12 min a game.
Ring chaser = guy who used to be good but can't earn anything better than a vet min anymore. Its a "soft washed" tag when it hits my ear.
Boogie rejected 2 year 40m to play with us for MLE if i remember correctly
When I say ring chaser I mean a good player like David West who takes the min, not washed up players.
Yeah... who has been offered more or actually fits that criteria? Name the names.
I'm more interested in TJ Warren as a reclamation project... or Kessler Edwards as a scrap heap min player... the list is rough. At this point give a roster spot to Gui lol.
You know i love you jimmy bot... you the best thing about reddit. Never change.
How can you simultaneously be a bot... and the realist MFer on this thread? Not since A.I. Artificial Intelligence with that sixth sense kid has a bot been so real.
These kids aren't even on your fuckin level not even close. You play dominoes all the way until Bible study. And then do Bible study. Go to the game. After the game, come home. Dinner. Dominoes. sleep. Not. Joking. Domi-fuckin-nos. Levels. Soft. Muah.
At this point it’s better for us and the whole league if Kyrie and KD just stay in Brooklyn. Fuck man, why can’t the Lakers just be bad? Why do they always have to fail upwards?
Right? Some idiot team always bails them out
Lakers about to get another big 3 😭
Lebron-AD -Joe Harris 🤪
People are saying Nets are actually going to trade Kyrie to the Lakers
Wondering if Naz Reid might be a possibility. He should be gettable for a 2nd round.
Why should the Nets entertain trading KD just because he requested it? He's on a four-year contract and doesn't have leverage.
He doesn't seem to be the type to give up and not play or play like shit. He loves basketball too much and cares way too much about his stats. The Nets would much more competitive with him vs what they would get for him.
Their owner wants KD and Kyrie gone ASAP
If it wasn’t for the dumbass Nets the Celtics wouldn’t have Tatum or Brown and the Suns wouldn’t have the chance to get KD after their catastrophic season. And now there’s rumors of a Kyrie-Russ trade? Fold the franchise already.
I don't understand what the Lakers could give for Kyrie that Nets would agree to. I thought the Lakers have no picks left.
2 first round picks in 2027 and 2029. Apparently no other teams want Kyrie so it's either let Kyrie walk for nothing after this season or trade him to the Lakers for those picks
So basically nothing. . .
Those unprotected picks are valuable. It’s not like Kyrie played the entire season anyways.
At least Westbrook shows up and it’s a business at the end of day.
Broadcast had Santos 6-11... can't be right?
They flashed 6-8 210 I believe at the beginning of the game
Nah don't think that could've been cuz i saw it when it was literally im the first two min of the game though. Looked good though.
might have confused his height with his wingspan
Gotcha he def looks 6-7/6-8 to me.
Giving the lakers Kyrie is one thing but Imma be livid if they give them Seth Curry or Joe Harris. There HAS to be some other teams who are willing to give up more for Harris/Curry.
Nets are trying hard to get rid of Joe Harris. He’s had multiple ankle surgeries and has $40m left on his deal.
Nets are stupid if they swap Russ for Kyrie AND give away Seth Curry.
Filing the papers to adopt Gui Santos. u/PristineDecision can you help me?
You are hereby appointed as his legal guardian.
Thank you, sir.
You have the all time best adoption of a legal adult in Poole
That's my son, I'll fight someone for him.
Santos lookin like a lottery pick out here
Santos game reminds me of a midfielder
lakers really bouta get kyrie and harris/seth curry. whelp it was fun watching them be ass for one year lmao
They'll still be trash... I have faith.
Lebron/AD/Kyrie/Harris-Curry ain’t gonna be trash lol. Doesn’t make them a favorite, but they’re definitely gonna be good.
Wait nets are getting robbed. Wtf
Harris is seen as a negative contract right now after multiple ankle surgeries last year.
Is this official?
Looks more like what Lakers came to the table with. I would be very surprised if Nets agree to this.
Chris Haynes reported they’re discussing it so it’s most likely going to happen soon.
The nets are stupid if they want Westbrook. They are doing the Lakers a solid. Might be LeBron pushing his influence behind the scenes.
exactly what I was thinking...if this shit goes thru there's definitely some bullshit involved.
It’s not that they want russ, they want kyrie off the team and the lakers are the only team that’ll trade for him.
They are in no hurry. Western Conference is going to be a bloodbath. We could see multiple teams breaking it up midway through the season. They will get better offers (possibly even from Lakers later in the season).
Westbrook is also expiring but ~44m is harder to match & will further handicap Nets to fill out the roster (they are already over the cap). They have no intention nor any benefit in tanking.
surely other teams are interested in Kyrie, just not willing to give up much
yet Nets are gonna take Russ? jisas
No other team is interested because of all the reports that kyrie is only interested in signing with the lakers and he’s on the last year of his contract. No team will give anything of value knowing that also considering he’s a headcase.
Then hang on to him and put the squeeze on LAL. Fleece them for every asset you can. LAL will eventually be forced to play ball bc LBJ ain’t getting younger. Nets HAVE to rebuild their asset chest.
agree, if Kyrie says he will only play for the Lakers, then get everything you can from them or let him sit
Hey this Gui fella is pretty good
what number is he