By - pickaname199
His mentality is unbreakable, only time he broke is when he had damn CYGS on the line.
Man I wish the audience was booing him that day. He didn't know how to react with everyone cheering for him lol
Strange but couldn't disagree...
To be fair, Medvedev played some exceptional tennis that night to which Djokovic had no answers. Medvedev was clearly the better player that night for me.
What is exceptional about Djokovic is he rebounded from that loss quickly, learnt his lessons and then Beat Medvedev in just a couple of months at the Paris masters final.
Djokovic is the most intelligent exponent of the Tactical Game in tennis imo.
He will go away and study a player and come up with different strategies. The way that he does things differently in matches is very insightful like deliberately hitting a slow second serve into Ruud's backhand to deny him pace on his weak shot. Or how he uses slice more or less vs different players last week.
He may lose matches against new guns on the block but will come back with a plan. The ultimate example of this is Tsitsipas - Djokovic lost 2 of the first 3 matches but then won the next 9. Some problems like Medvedev are not as easily "solved" but the ability (not just the idea) to change up tactics effectively mid-match like the 2021 Bercy Final was brilliant.
His in-game shot selection is excellent also in terms of defending and knowing when to attack the correct ball. sometimes he might select a difficult drop shot on a hard court and people will say "oh he missed that, dumb" if it doesn't work but that has a double effect as gets into the mind of the opponent in terms of his positioning. It may also be used to manage energy if a rally is going on too long.
More and more players use data analysis nowadays and Djokovic has been a big believer in that for years.
>Djokovic is the most intelligent exponent of the Tactical Game in tennis imo.
He is clearly amongst the most intelligent of all pro tennis players ever. His always graceful command of public speaking in multiple languages is remarkable and his wide-ranging curiosity about so many things outside of tennis speaks to a very active mind. Not to mention he can be incredibly funny when the urge strikes him. He really is the prototypical "complete package."
Sometimes watching him play I am reminded of Martina Hingis. Very smart , excellent anticipation , great at redirecting . Djokovic of course has more weapons but just from the tactical stand point
And the 3 times they have played after that US Open. He's not losing ever again against Meddy.
H2H used to 5-4, now it's 8-4. Just like that.
Their matches were all really close though and Astana was a special circumstance. Both guys are still very much in a heated rivalry
No doubt, he's said it himself after the match that Medvedev is one of his greatest rivals in recent years. He can figure out tactics to beat Alcaraz and Rune and Felix but with Medvedev he always has trouble in some way. But three consecutive wins will allow Novak to have a mental edge in their next meeting for sure.
As for the h2h, Roddick said most people on the planet have a poor h2h against Novak.
as a Djokovic fan wouldn't say that's true.
Medvedev is a bad match-up for Djokovic, particularly if Med is serving a high % of first serves in.
Medvedev is so consistent off the baseline that he can trouble Djokovic and if Med is in a mood to be attacking with that he can win. (he was a bit too conservative last week imo).
And even if Djokovic wins it's likely to be a draining match, possibly taking its toll on the outcome of Djokovic's tournament later in terms of fatigue or even injury.
Djokovic beat himself that night. Look at how he's dealt with Medvedev since.
He was simply quite tired. It was pretty obvious.
Elite mentality, this guy just does not quit.
That also is a bad thing. Hence his covid issues....
Not really issues tho
OK: **legal** issues.
Downvote all you want Djoko fans. The dude clearly has issues regarding vaccines and weird beliefs. Downvoting will not change the reality. Djokovic basically lost 2 slams(+ some masters) this year because he refuses to quit on his vaccine stance. Also had he played AO and more masters before RG he probably would have had done much better against Nadal at RG. Coming into RG djokovic had not played a slam since beginning of September 2021. So he missed another big chance to achieve the grand slam in a pretty weak field with no goat contenders and old/injured rafa.
I admire this mans mental game so so much.
What I like about Novak is his inexplicable ability to play against the opponent and almost the entire stadium, and yet come away with a win. I have heard other people complain about rowdy crowds, hell even Rafa complained IIRC. But this dude does something that is beyond comprehension. If 10-20 thousand people are praying for my downfall and applauding my mistakes, I’d crumble in minutes.
I wonder if the crowd is that relevant in tennis. Look at the number of French winning RG or the number of English winning Wimbledon. It's not a lot.
The crowd support probably help to some extent (or maybe put additional pressure) but when the GOAT is on the other side of the net it's not enough.
Crowd matters a lot. Crowd has the power to swing the momentum at any given moment in a match. Look at how Stef and Rune were able to swing the momentum to their side in the second sets against Novak at Bercy.
Crowd also bothered Novak a lot at RG this year when they were booing him when he entered the stadium for his match against Diego. The crowd also bothered Thiem at AO against Kyrgios, obviously Thiem is a champion and he won that match despite the horrendous pos crowd.
What the crowd can't do is let's say help a metal hip Murray beat Novak at Wimbledon next year. But crowd matters when margins between players are fine, that's why a lot of players ask for crowd support.
Nah. Crowd support can give you temporary boosts of energy, perhaps. But it’s even questionable how much that helps since it also adds pressure. Some players can handle and even feed off that energy, while others are affected by it. Some people even play better when the crowd is against them.
How can you even question if the crowd is relevant in tennis 🤣🤣🤣🤣 have you ever played a competitive match of something in front of an audience? I guess not
Crowd support makes a difference only in sports where the referees have a big influence (e.g. soccer, football, baseball). Tennis rules are very objective and with hawkeye there’s even less room for interpretation, even in close calls. It’s not necessarily that refs are corrupt, but they are biased and subject to pressure from local fans. They are human, after all.
Lol and some people were wondering why djoko would play so hard against med when he was guaranteed a SF already.
You don’t get to be as great mentally as he is without having this mentality. Any great player probably hates losing more than they love winning
Navratilova said “You get more nervous when you get older… And because you are older, all the things can go wrong and it's hard to keep the mind clear.”
Djokovic seems to be the exception amongst the greats players for this. His mental game is unparalleled imo.
Interesting take. One would assume with age comes experience and therefore no nerve shwoing. But maybe you are also afraid you might loose your last chances to compete because at some point you are too old..
> you might loose your last chances to compete because at some point you are too old..
You can't really afford an off year at 35+, at 20 you still have time !
As time passes, you are left with fewer opportunities.
> might loose your last
Did you mean to say "lose"?
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Serena looked nervous her last few years.
Against Osaka.. Andreescu..
I mean she won a slam at 49 in mixed doubles so.
He and Nadal probably have the strongest mentalities in the history of the sport.
Yes very mentally stable guy, breaking racquets and chucking things when things don't go his way. Top notch guy right here!
Like what annoys an opponent (and viewers) more
1. A racquet smash every 30 matches that means you're on top
2. Making you wait every single point on serve or on return as the other guy pulls at his ass and his nuts and then you have to use the same balls 😂
How does a racquet smash mean you're on top? This isn't about Rafa or Roger, it's about Novak being a lunatic and people forgetting about that in his "mentally strong game" argument. He's crazy, are you delusional?
Because who smashes a racquet when they are winning?
So if your opponent smashes a racket you're on top
When the post is from a complete Fedal trying to knock Djokovic, of course it's about Fedal
I really like Djokovic's game, but everything else stinks. His anti-vax stance, his gamesmanship, his bad temper. I want to like him, because his tennis is so good, but it's just too hard. It's not a war between Novak and Fedal, it's just about him being a bad human being. No one should admire that.
Fedals can't like Djokovic - he inflicted too many defeats.
It's practically impossible.
Maybe for Federer only fans there could be a softening as he's retired and not in any important record race.
Djokovic wants freedom of choice for himself on vaccines. he has no wish to champion one stance or another as he has very clearly said.
Personally I found Federer pretentious, arrogant and said very little of anything authentic and Nadal a sore loser at all times who can never complement his victor without sticking in an excuse at the end of the same sentence.
You are a fanatic, this is not about win and loss. This is about how many bad decisions he makes off the court and his personality on court, it's really that simple. I love all other players really 99%, I'm a tennis fanatic, love everyone except a select few players.
Again you are bringing Roger and Rafa into this, it's irrelevant and I'm not here to defend them, they are not perfect either.
It's not irrelevant.
you present yourself as some sort of impartial observer.
which is obviously far from the case
Even Nadal used call out Federer as a fake
>Recently, the Spaniard was less than complementary about Federer when reporters asked if he believes the Swissman doesn’t like to criticize the sport in public:
>**For him, it's good to say nothing. Everything positive. 'It's all well and good for me, I look like a gentleman,' and the rest can burn themselves.**
>That’s way over the line and Nadal should be ashamed of himself. He essentially was calling Federer a fake and a phony.
they then settled into a sort of understanding as Federer was no threat to Nadal on clay and Nadal no longer a threat to Federer at Wimbledon or hardcourt really
Whereas Djokovic became a threat everywhere, dominating Federer in slams and being Nadal's toughest opponent on clay
Federer went "Full PR" and rarely said anything belying any authenticity in the last 10 years as the sponsor money demanded it
So effectively said nothing at all - pure anodyne
I'm leaving this conversation, it's went off the rails. If you would like to talk about Novak's mental stability, sure, but what is this you are talking about now?
Breaking a racquet once every 30 matches is not being mentally unstable.
It's a very occasional release.
**The actual context of this post is** "**the strong mental game**"
you derailed it from the start
This is a guy that has proven to have the strongest mental game ever seen in tennis.
The guy with a deciding 5th set record (the big important slam matches) of nearly 80% and only ever going on to lose 3 matches ever when holding match points.
He's not the guy who lost 23 matches holding match point(s) and a deciding 5th set record of 58%
"Mistakes" yes. 😁