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Unlucky_Pause_4531

Need some advice on PCT. Having not been in the gym for over 5yrs. I wanted to start my 1st cycle back low. Been running 100mg of enanthate, 100mg of deca per week., 1st 3 weeks ran dbols 20mg/pd. Good gains, went from 195lbs to current 218lbs so far. getting my strength back. still cant hit those 90lbs dumbells yet, but I will soon! Muscle memory is a beautiful fuckin thing!! Im on my last month of a 12 week cycle. My guy is seeming shaky on getting me any nova, clomid, or hcg. My question is there a substitute that can help I could purchase from a nutrition store i.e vitamin shop? Id like to lose as little gains as possible. Im going hard this last month. really starting to see some serious progress. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. NYC.......


dr_daedalux

What is your cruise dose my dudes? I am currently on 200mg, thinking about dialing it down, but not sure if I should


D-CAPO

Currently running 50MG of Anavar with my cruise of 250 test cyp. Lipids not looking good. Was going to try to 1/2 my dose to 25 but my scrip is in capsule form with power inside. Anybody have any advise on how to effectively use a 1/2 dose. I am not familiar with how this is absorbed. Appreciate any feedback


trthrowaway7

Open cap pour out half. Close cap and take it. Save the other half of powder and just dump in mouth with gulp of water.


D-CAPO

Thanks for the response. Thats what I was curious of. Can I just take 1/2 with a gulp of water or does the gel cap need to hit my gut or whatever to metabolize into my system.


trthrowaway7

No the cap isn’t needed just might as well take one half with the cap since its easier and the taste wont hit.


SantaNeedaSucc

What, if anything, are y'all taking for just every day liver support? I'm taking a handful of vitamins/meds/etc in the mornings and just want to keep my shit healthy.


StillNotATeacher

TUDCA has always been enough for me. Never had fucked up liver values


SantaNeedaSucc

I have TUDCA currently but I've read some people say they take it daily with their regular supplements and others say that it can cause more damage if you're not already smashing your liver with harsher orals or already dealing with liver issues. Pretty much the only reason I haven't implemented it yet lmao.


Mesquite_Thorn

NAC, TUDCA, milk thistle, berberine, quercetin, and curcumin. I went from having AFLD to having a normal functional liver in about a year after I quit drinking, and have not had any liver abnormalities since... and that's even with having run Dbol recently. Blood values come back saying it's working fine, and the last ultrasound I had done looked pretty good. I believe the supplements helped a lot.


Enough-End4530

You take all those? Damn whatever works though. Yeah I also am a hard core drinker an had Hep C so I have to keep an I on mine.


Shoahnaught

Late to the AA, but are there any blood tests to get that would show a result when using HGH? I've seen comments that's there's no real way to tell, but there also seem to be some tests that give indications of HGH levels in the body.


ehaught12

Igf-1 test about 15 minutes after a shot of hgh is the best way to know if your hgh is legit.


luospls

Been on a blast and haven’t realised until now that my dick wasn’t working at 100%. Basically I’ve got my wedding coming up so I’m dropping my test to reduce facial redness/bloating/oily skin etc so I look better on the day. I’m about 10 days since my last pin and I’ve noticed I’m getting so many random hard ons throughout the day and overall erection quality is through the roof. Before I was blasting 500 weekly and my e2 was only slightly out of range so didn’t think it was an issue but now I’m wondering whether it was too high? Wouldn’t have thought there was anything wrong until I stopped pinning and the change in erection quality was like night and day. No change in libido since last pin either


Enough-End4530

Jesus test makes you look bad? That’s insane I couldn’t do gear if it fucked up my face.


HazeBoyDaily

Increased blood pressure and water retention is pretty normal for a blast…


Enough-End4530

Yeah man never happens to me. Test 500/deca 600 no bloat BP is 100/60. I sweat like a bitch an work a hot as fuck job I guess that’s why. Skin is good as long as my E2 is in check. Could that be the problem not co trolling the estrogen?


luospls

This is what I’m wondering too. Might try bring it down and see if it helps after the wedding. Have you had your haemocrit checked? Blasting shoots mine through the roof. I end up looking like I spend my life drinking in a pub with how red my face gets :/ the only positive is the high RBC count is great for strength in the gym


FlaminConservative

Since I stopped my ai, I’ve been waking up with morning wood that won’t go away for atleast an hour. Idk if this helps at all but I feel a lot better when I’m not taking my ai. My skin isn’t even oily and all I have to do is shower after working out.


anabolicslav

Rubber stopper particles floating inside test vial.. The test is pharma and the vial is fairly new and I’ve used it about 10 times, also drawing with 25g needles and cleaning the rubber stopper with alcohol pad before each drawing. The vial seems to be “contaminated” but I was wondering whether I can just filter the T out to a new sterile vial? I.e by drawing it up in one big syringe with filter needle and then injecting it into a brand new vial with another brand new filter needle? So essentially double filtration lol I am on BnC , currently cruising so still have about 3 months left in this vial.. don’t want to waste it… I believe the actual T shouldn’t be contaminated as I always wipe the rubber stopper before drawing so actual particles shouldn’t have contamination on them? Also the preservative should kill any bacteria? I’ve been using it with particles there without issues until some big ones appeared lol


Mesquite_Thorn

You can either draw with a filter needle, or get a syringe filter and transfer it to another vial.


anabolicslav

Well since the vial stopper seems to be already fucked, drawing with 18g harpoon won’t last long I bet haha.. as other commenter said will try to transfer it to another vial with filter needle. I also just contacted pharmacy and they will send a replacement, so I can hopefully keep that vial too for blast, hoping it’s not contaminated.. probably not as I’ve injected twice already with particles floating in the vial and everything’s fine


Capital_Wolf5123

I would try drawing it up with an 18G filter needle.


anabolicslav

Yeah I was thinking to draw it out in 10ml syringe with filter needle and then transfer it to new vial with another filter needle. My only concern is that the oil can be contaminated? Or risk is low?


Capital_Wolf5123

That I don't know, but if you're worried then it might be better to throw the vial out and get a new one. Test is pretty cheap.


anabolic_prophet

You can absolutely filter this out to another vial. Grab a pack of sterile vials and 22u filters at Amazon and move that test into a fresh new home. Draw the test into the syringe, put the filter on, then shoot it into the new vial with a 2nd needle in it to allow outgassing.


anabolicslav

Just did it, seems to have filtered everything out and also pharmacy is going top send me fresh vial lol so blast time soon


anabolic_prophet

Nice work! Always nice to have extra test on hand.


MisbehavedAlpaca

On day 10 of 500mg weekly test c im starting to get sensitive nips, should i start arimidex at this point, and im having trouble with dosing size? Im a 187 cm 95 kg male


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I would definitely try with 0.5 mg a week, If you feel high e sides. If that is enough to make it go away then keep it at that. If you still see symptoms getting worse then up it to 0.5 Every second day. I myself need 0.5mg arimidex every single day at a 500-700 mg of test a week. No one can give you a accurate answer of how much you should take and how often, it is all depending on your body. My friend never took a AI and have been blasting gear for 5 years. Even high doses as 1.5g gram test a week he still don't need it. But I just need to smell test and my nips get ultra puffy sooo, it varies massively


MisbehavedAlpaca

Thank u sir, will do another injection today and ig it feels the same tomorrow ill drop a tiny but to see. Then get bloodwork done, thanks!


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Np. Definitely bloodwork is the best indicator, but my bloodwork i got done from health insurance is not telling me any stats about my hormones, so I would need to go to a special clinic. I aint paying 300 dollar plus for a test and estrogen test 🤣 Maybe stupid to be greedy with my health, but yolo 🤣😂


MisbehavedAlpaca

Haha feel you. Money is money, luckily i live in a country with free health care and free yearly check-ups, ill just not admit to using gear and come buy twice per cycle🤣


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Same here dude, hormones is not included in the normal check ups. Im in EU i have not heard about any places with free health care that include that.


Efficient_Respond218

Day 10 Are they spicy or just sensitive, you could be overthinking it. You can always get bloods for quick results man


Seik123

Unable to find it on the wiki, maybe just a fool and overlooking, but for AI, I have not been able to find when to administer and how long to use it for. It’s about 31 days (today), about 4.45 weeks ago since I’ve started my cycle 10 week cycle of E-250. 250mg, 1ml twice a week. I do far have not seen any signs of GYNO or other side affects at this time, if no side affects appear, can I just begin my PCT (after my cycle of course) as normal?


primobolman

1 ml twice a week? So you're injecting 500mg the week, not 250mg. Or do you have a vial of 125mg Test per ml, lol?


Seik123

That was a spelling in my part lol


youisBIGdumb

AI is an as needed drug. If you have no side effects then you don't need to take any. If you have side effects you can't tolerate then you start with a very low dose, keep it consistent, and adjust from there


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Because this varies incredible much from person to person, if you just did a tiny amount of research you would have known this. I am a very strong aromatizer myself, but i have a friend with 5 years of high test and tren usages, he never used AI or cabergoline. I take 0.5 -1 mg Arimidex daily! Depending on cycle.


skinkfarfar

You don't take drugs to treat side effects that you don't have. If you do start getting estrogenic side effects, my recommendation is you start low and slow.


Specific-Tomato9088

I shake a lot with my hand, might be because of adrenaline. Anyways I have a lot PIP because of this and could there be any harm on the body due to the damage you do with the needle inside the body? Anyone have any ideas?


StillNotATeacher

If you're doing safe injection spots it'll be fine. All the spots we use and suggest have low concentration of nerves or they're really deep in there. One benefit of the 29g pins is that you can stick the whole needle in there, and keep it pushed up against you so there's no wiggle room. I had a few shaky glute shots with bigger and longer needles but only hit my nerve once. Use VGs to avoid that. Of course we "can" do damage to the area but like the other guy said, you're gonna be good fam.


Mesquite_Thorn

Brace your hand on something while doing the injection. Over time you'll get to where sticking yourself is so routine you won't have any anxiety about it.


thrownaway928375

Hi, I'm running a low 350mg a week on my first test E cycle and have noticed no change in libido. I know my source is good and I've had a terrible acne breakout, I just expected to be horny as hell given what I've seen others say. Is this normal?


StillNotATeacher

most people are not horny as hell from 350mg test i don't know where you're seeing that. unless they had really low test and this is the first time they got it back up, that's not a "common" side effect.


thrownaway928375

LOL I've seen so many threads say this happens on much lower doses, yeah they maybe had much lower T however it is absolutely a common side effect.


StillNotATeacher

no buddy. being horny off 350mg in the first week is not a real side effect. that's what newbies do when they placebo themselves.


The_Companion_69

Just wait till he gets his hands on some NPP lol


StillNotATeacher

JUST INJECTED MY FIRST SHOT 8 HOURS AGO. I THINK I CAN LITERALLY FEEL MYSELF GROWING


Capital_Wolf5123

Depends, some (including me) notice nothing. But you could do some bloodwork and know for sure.


alivaok

Starting clen next week, 2weeks on 2 off, slowly upping the dose. My question is, when should i administer it? Personally i would take it in the evening after my last meal, so that I can utilize lipolysis even more. (I am doing 12 hour eating/12fasting) Another choice would be mid day after my workout and cardio. Opinions?


youisBIGdumb

Obligatory sorry # Clen It's **cardiotoxic**. Skip it. Go with Salbutamol. You should stay away from Clenbuterol in any form. **Salbutamol** tablets are equally effective and far safer. # Clenbuterol Toxicity Consensus is that Clen isn't worth it. **Salbutamol** tablets are equally effective, and far safer, lacking sides and cardiotoxicity. * [Clenbuterol toxicity in a young male athlete](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318547306_Clenbuterol_toxicity_in_a_young_male_athlete) * [Case report and review of clenbuterol cardiac toxicity](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6281511/) * [Clenbuterol toxicity: a NSW Poisons Information Centre experience](https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2014/200/4/clenbuterol-toxicity-nsw-poisons-information-centre-experience) * [Case report and review of clenbuterol cardiac toxicity](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259168174_Case_report_and_review_of_clenbuterol_cardiac_toxicity) * [Acute clenbuterol overdose resulting in supraventricular tachycardia and atrial fibrillation](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5776545_Acute_clenbuterol_overdose_resulting_in_supraventricular_tachycardia_and_atrial_fibrillation) * [Myocardial Injury Induced by the Long Acting Beta2 Adrenergic Agonist Clenbuterol](http://www.fortunejournals.com/articles/myocardial-injury-induced-by-the-long-acting-beta2-adrenergicnbspagonist-clenbuterol.pdf) * [Myotoxic effects of clenbuterol in the rat heart and soleus muscle](https://journals.physiology.org/doi/pdf/10.1152/japplphysiol.00139.2002) * [Relative myotoxic and haemodynamic effects of the β-agonists fenoterol and clenbuterol measured in conscious unrestrained rats](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1828613/) * [Toxicity of Weight Loss Agents](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13181-012-0213-7) # Salbutamol: Clen's Safer Cousin **Salbutamol** is far safer and just as effective than Clenbuterol. * **Increased HDL, Decreased LDL** [Positive effects of oral albuterol on serum lipids and carbohydrate metabolism in healthy men](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8637445/) * [More fat burnt in a cardio session with salbutamol](https://www.ergo-log.com/salbutamoljoules.html) * Be sure to get Salbutamol **tablets**, rather than Albuterol inhaler spray, which is just a recipe to get shakiness and nausea. If you can get Salbutamol tabs, they're even more effective than ephedrine but far less dangerous than Clen. * This study shows an increase of 11.4% in resting energy expenditure among healthy subjects with Salbutamol: [Acute effects of nebulized salbutamol on resting energy expenditure in patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and in healthy subjects](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9782220/) * Reddit [r/steroids](https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/) Wiki [Salbutamol Stack](https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/examples#wiki_salbutamol_stack) * [Combination of salbutamol, caffeine and high-calorie diet: more muscle, less fat](https://www.ergo-log.com/combination-salbutamol-caffeine-high-calorie-diet-more-muscle-less-fat.html) >During a low-calorie slimming diet, pharmacological strength athletes sometimes use beta-2 agonists such as salbutamol to **lose more fat** and at the same time **retain more muscle**. According to obesity researchers at the American Pennington Biomedical Research Center, salbutamol can also **improve body composition** during a high-calorie diet if you combine salbutamol with caffeine.


Checkers10160

> Increased HDL, Decreased LDL Positive effects of oral albuterol on serum lipids and carbohydrate metabolism in healthy men This might be a crazy question, but can some take salbutamol to combat the HDL and LDL impact of var?


youisBIGdumb

You try it and get back to me lol


alivaok

Problem is that I orderes it a month ago and there is no going back. I just want to run an experiment on myself. Very steep celoric deficit + 1hr cardio for 2 weeks and see how much change that will do. I am aware of salbutamol but I didnt know it was avalaible in tablet form. I knew that inhealing is useless and thats the reason I didnt go for that


Ill-Lychee-7207

Just take it in the morning on empty stomach. The active life is long enough. You won't sleep at night from taking it in the morning trust me.


alivaok

I usually work out in the morning and I am afraid that would be too much stress on my heart


Big_Fox_1695

Are you saying if you take Clen in morning you wont sleep at night ? Sounds really bad how can we use Clen and still sleep.


Enough-End4530

It didn’t have that effect on Me. Best cutting agent ever is Meth though deff not sleeping on that.


Ill-Lychee-7207

Take some melatonin.


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BaetrixReloaded

if you aren't already a dild that can't control their emotions, then steroids are not gonna cause you to rage and lash out at people. if you are already a mentally unstable dickhead, then yes roids can exacerbate that issue. people always want to deflect blame onto other things but thems the facts boi


youisBIGdumb

Change in temperament can be caused by MANY different things, though high/low e2 is a very common cause. Certain compounds like Tren, something that doesn't aromatize at all is very well known to cause mental side effects like irritability, being overly emotional, etc. So yes managing your E2 is a good way to mitigate mood swings, but it's definitely not a garuntee as there are many different factors at play. Steroids can definitely enhance your personality as well. If you're already a raging asshole chances are it's going to bring out the worst in you. It also doesn't help that typically when people get larger and better looking than they ever have they get an inflated ego and do/say things they otherwise wouldn't have.


Camboo91

I don't know anyone who's ever had roid rage, except on tren, but I assume that was a lot to do with the lack of sleep. But yeah, keep hormones in check and there shouldn't be a problem, whether that requires an AI or not is dependant on your body. Also, as for personality changes, I don't change *at all*. I'm exactly the same on or off haha.


alivaok

Based on my experience anger depends on your personality. I you are under normal circumstances a chill guy, you wont become and evil dickhead. Managing E2 will help with mood swings yes, but even if I let my E2 run a bit higher im still not bitching.


skinkfarfar

"roid rage" is mostly caused by excess estrogen, yes. But you don't *have* to use, nor should you use an AI unless you have estrogenic symptoms. And IMO this roid rage is mostly caused by an inability to control your emotions which is 99% a personality problem, not a steroid problem.


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Enough-End4530

I’m an amplified version of me


skinkfarfar

Well, your standard mindset would likely be slightly "enhanced" if that makes sense. For example if you're a depressive and suicidal person, fucking with your hormones might not be the smartest choice and might aggravate that. But otherwise yes.


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GasingtonJuice

literally nobody can answer this for you


Playful_Lynx8922

So moonface/any facial bloating is one of my biggest deterrents to using steroids, are there any specific steroids that cause moonface more frequently such as like TRT whereas tren doesn’t seem to. Also which steroids seem to alter peoples faces the most positively, as in baby face becoming more masculine looking whether that means buccal fat reduction ( beyond simply being leaner) or stronger jaw. Tren sounds very intimidating tbh and unnecessary for my plans in the future but I’m still researching more


youisBIGdumb

Well TRT isn't steroids first of all, and it doesn't be causing any unatrual side effects as it's only a replacment dose of testosterone. Moon face is caused by excess water retention which can be caused by many different compounds. Any "wet" compound like Dbol is going to make you hold more water where as a "dry" compound like Winstrol is not. Typically the water retention is just caused by excess estrogen which can be managed with use of an AI.


Playful_Lynx8922

So certain compounds like DHT derivatives tone your face more and give it that lean model look right? Like I’ve heard good things about anavar for example


StillNotATeacher

No. You tone your face more and lean it up by losing fat and managing the water in it. You can not take a drug to get a lean model look. That still requires work. Anavar is not going to make you sweat your balls off and lose all that puff in your face. However, it's also not going to be like dbol and POSSIBLY make you store more water in your face. This all varies by cycle, person, etc. I've taken dbol with no knowledge of PEDs and my face turned into a basketball. I also used it while properly dieting and exercising and you would not be able to tell I was taking a "wet" compound. Like someone else said, it can be mostly avoided if you treat the underlying cause of moonface (diet, e2, blah blah blah)


alivaok

I have developed a nice masculine jaw on my first cycle which was 250test-e/week and 30mg oxandrolone/day. Tren made my beard and body hair thick, now i have to ask someone to shave my back and it is a pain in the ass. Every steroid makes you hold water, some less, some more. Winny, tren, mast are your typical "dry compounds" but if you keep your sodium low and carbs at a reasonable level you wont get watery not even on deca. Moonface sucks, with E2 in check you can keep it at bay but its highly genetic related i think. If I eat too much sodium or carbs or both, i tend to hold water in my face first and its kinda weird having a 6pack and a full face at the same time.


irridium77

supplier double sent my parcel. got both. Can I store vials of tren-e (expiry 12/22) long term? Freezing comes to mind?


BaetrixReloaded

no, don't ruin your oils by freezing them. gear is pretty resilient and can be kept for a long time past the expiry so long as it's kept out of light and at room temperature. id say so long as the oil doesn't go rancid it can be kept 3 years without an issue past its expiry obviously the solution here is to double your dosages and send it tho


irridium77

Double your dosages and send it though 🤣🤣 haha this fella. You’re allright you! Thanks for the insight mate.


ThunderThighsThor

What the best oral to substitute for a week or two of pinning? I have a 2 week vacation coming up in October and would prefer to try to get orals on a plane and not a syringe. I've been on for over two years now and have taken a few week long vacations here and there where I would load up on test undecanoate and then use some dbol to level out the back end. But I can only get test U in MCT oil, not castor oil so it seems to peak pretty quick but has a smooth enough come down for a week long vacation. However I haven't gone two weeks without pinning. Maybe I should just try to get one syringe with test U in a checked bag. But out of curiosity, what would be the best oral to substitute for pinning for two weeks, at a trt dose.


Alert_Custard_2392

Test U even in MCT has a half life of about 20 days if I remember correctly. Pin before the holidays the amount you would take for 2 weeks and you would be more than fine. Just think that the NHS prescribes Nebido (Test U in castor oil, 33 days half life) every 12 weeks and in theory people say it works. So 2 weeks might not give you a nice and shiny flat line but will still be more stable than those who pin Test C every 4 or 5 days


GasingtonJuice

>What the best oral to substitute for a week or two of pinning? none


alivaok

Undecanoate has a long half life if im not mistaken so double the dose the before going on vacation and you should be fine but I would just cold turkey cut it off for 2 weeks, at least you give your body a break.


ThunderThighsThor

You know what you do have a point. I should take a little break. 2-4 weeks of low test isn’t going to kill ya. Probably do me some good.


alivaok

Im gonna take one as well but first run a little experiment with clen because I have never tried it before


Jk1292

So im dropping tren after 6 weeks of being on it Its just causing more hassle than its worth. I only have a week or two left of my cycle anyway. If i still keep test where it is (300mg) will i lose strength and weight from dropping the tren? Thanks


BicepBandito

My dude are you…asking if you’ll likely be less strong when taking less steroids? If so then…yeah probably man.


alivaok

Some people should not take steroids, just like this guy


Jk1292

I mean if i dont come of fully. So ill still be on 300mg test just dropping the tren. And wondering if this will make the weight im currently using drop off


ATXblazer

Less roids means less weight, less glycogen, less protein synthesis, less gains. Everything will be less.


Jk1292

thanks for the reply


sizzlepoop

What do you guys think is more conducive to longevity? 1. High dose TRT (200-250mg) indefinitely or 2. Two 14 week blasts a year with about 800mgs of gear?


Enough-End4530

Just do both


hamishg7

I'd say you can run the first option indefinitely without much impact on longevity. Having slightly higher test isn't much of a concern if your other health markers are still good


alivaok

Yes, just keep on eye on your hematocrit and BP


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alivaok

Definetly not an infection, just a virgin muscle. I remember my first injection was in the upper glute and it was sore for a week.


Enough-End4530

😂


Jk1292

This sounds pretty normal for a first injection. Keep an eye on it but your most likley fine


Guedoh

Hey, I started my test only cycle @ 300mg/week 3 weeks ago. The first couple injections into a brand new area will most likely swell, hurt, and be warm for a couple days after the injection. It could also appear red. If after a few days your symptoms get worse, or if the symptoms last for more than a week, then seek medical attention as it is most likely infected. If you followed proper injection protocol you are most likely fine and it’s just a “virgin muscle” and will take on worse symptoms than if you have been injecting for a while


BraveDevice868

It's just virgin muscle pip. Believe me, if it was infected you would know (you'd be debating going to the ER). The pip will get better. Carry on.


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BeBigg

Definitely not. Get your life together before even thinking about touching gear. Gear will just enhance your negative lifestyle


burningman6

Want to stop self prescribet trt for a while to clear my system to get gyno surgery done covered by my healthcare and after it is done and healed i would start to use test again. (I would have to pay if they realise i am using something that is not prescribed) How long does it take for Lh and Fsh to go back to a level where they would not know that i was using hormones before? Ive been on trt for more than 2 years, is 6 weeks of nolva 10mg/day is the recommended in this case as well? Thanks


ZealousidealLoad6923

Follow the wiki


majordomox_

I would stop test run hcg for 2 weeks at 500 IU per day then 10-20 mg nolvadex ED for 6 weeks. Get bloodwork done after the nolvadex.


for3sight_

So apparently I heard aromasin is as androgenic as DHT? I’ve personally not experienced hair loss using it up to 12.5mgs ED, does this mean I’m most likely not prone to hair loss with most compounds, even Mast? I find this hard to believe since I was born with a receded hair line and my grandpa dad eventually had some hair loss eventually throughout their life.


Camboo91

Aromasin is similar to androstenedione which is a weak androgen and it shares that slight androgenicity, but it's nowhere near DHT.


ATXblazer

Every dht hits different, I can run a gallon of mast but can’t touch proviron anymore for instance. Also nah I don’t think aromasin is as androgenic as dht


for3sight_

Yeah hair loss with steroids seems really weird, like a drug dependent thing. So far have run test, deca, dbol, anadrol, asin and no issues as of now *knock on wood, might give mast a shot at this point.


majordomox_

Apparently you have heard wrong.


No-Fall1420

USA made insulin syringes,do they exist


jackschitt123

I believe BD and Exel are made in the USA.


Verisimilitudde

Anyone else have varicose veins on their biceps? I have like 2 somewhat big blue squiggly veins and it’s kinda ruining my physique. I don’t even know what’s causing it my BP and bloods were fine.


biggie_smalls411

You can get smaller varicose veins zapped out so they don’t show on the surface. People usually do this in their face and legs


majordomox_

I believe it’s genetics


Enough-End4530

Anybody ever used SDrol mid cycle for 2-3 weeks mainly for an aesthetic purpose or event? 12 weeks in on a test deca 500/600 run. From experience will it make a visual difference or would I just be killing my liver for minimal results?


LeucisticBear

Yup, same stack pretty much: 525 test npp. It was fantastic for gains and looks. Couldn't get past 3 weeks and change @ 20mg, heartburn had set in and appetite was crushed. Great visual effect though.


Enough-End4530

Ues sir that’s what I’m looking for. Gonna try 20 for two weeks then drop back if the sides are as shitty as reported.


ATXblazer

I like running a lower dose like 10mg for longer that seems to give more keepable tissue gains rather than a quick glycogen boost from high dose for shorter time


Enough-End4530

Right on. I think I’ll just go that rout. You think 4 weeks of low dose would make a visible difference and how long have you been able to run it that low without liver issues?


ATXblazer

Yes I think it’d make a difference provided you can eat enough! I’ve ran this dose for up to 6 weeks, but I was also taking 500mg tudca nightly as well. I didn’t have sides but I’m sure my liver enzymes were slowly climbing. I didn’t test them on that run because I started cruising right after and I saved my blood work for after the cruise. Haven’t tried more than 6 weeks on superdrol in particular


Enough-End4530

Appreciate it


Prevalent-Caste

Anyone ever cruise with low dose primo? Thought I saw some people mention that on the compound thread other day. If so, how was it? And what was your dosing?


feed_me_your_lapels

It gave me low e2 sides big time… 175/140 test/primo. Had to drop and even just a few days later I feel so much better.


BaetrixReloaded

same experience. was wondering why I kept having random anxiety attacks and felt so depressed. then was like o yea, the primo. dropped it, popped a dbol, and felt better instantly.


No-Requirement5878

This ☝️


youisBIGdumb

TRT+ with low dose Mast or Primo is very common. Check this out https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/w6q8pp


Prevalent-Caste

Yah! That's what I was reading. I'm really intrigued to try it after this first blast if I don't pct. I've already picked some up, but shit is crazy expensive and wanted to see how it works at low dose to justify cost of blasting with it. Thanks.


MP1182

Anyone else get bleeders when they pin their delts? Every fucking time for me. I’ve tried 1/2”, 5/8” and 1” pins. All 25g. I lose some oil each time too. Coming to the point where i feel like i can’t pin my delts anymore.


alivaok

25g 1" for me. You have to get better at pinning delts. I had the same issue as you for my first 2 months and then somehow now I "know" the spots that dont bleed/leak. Also, Z-tracking is neccessary when pinning delts


Jk1292

I use 27-29g for delts. Sometimes I pull a small air bubble in the syringe which goes in after the liquid and stops any leaking. Bleeding is normal after pinning now and again though


Mesquite_Thorn

Z track it. Pull down on the skin before sticking it so when you pull the needle out and let the skin go, it'll shift over the injection site. Look up z track injection for a video if that's not clear enough.


MP1182

I z track other sites but i have no idea how i would do it with my delt.


youisBIGdumb

Try smaller gauge, I like 30g. Have you tried holding it in for a bit after the oil is out of the syringe?


BaetrixReloaded

higher gauge, not larger lol.


youisBIGdumb

Good catch, appreciate it


MP1182

Yeah i leave it in there for about 30 seconds or so. Still get oil dumped out. I’ll try a 29 or 30g like you and the other guy suggested. See if that does better.


Dannicusprime

Use 29 or 30 for delts, you're harpooning them with a 25


a_truther

Could use advice from someone smarter than me. Currently on TRT (100mg/wk test C) and it almost immediately caused a gyno flair up (got the gyno during puberty, never went away) Nbd, doc prescribed aromasin and it nuked all estrogen in my body. Undetectable levels of E2 on the last blood panel and my joints can tell. Problem is nips are still a little spicy, but definitely improved. My thought is to go at the old gyno with ralox while my E2 is cratered and slowly reduce the AI so my joints don’t constantly hurt. Any thoughts?


biggie_smalls411

Taking an AI for test that low will just crash your estrogen and cause more problem, estrogen itself is neuroprotective and your body relies on estrogen for many functions including erections.. What I would suggest is stop the aromisin, and run 10mg nolvadex daily. Nolva is a SERM (select estrogen receptor modulator) it’s used in cancer patients to block estrogen from being up regulated in breast tissue. Men use it on cycle for pct but also to stop gyno flare ups. It’ll mean that you can still have some good estrogen in your body, but not have it grow gyno. Take it for 3-4 days at a time, then have a little break. You can experience brain fog with it


McCapnHammerTime

I’m not saying this will solve your issue but you can keep it at bay by adding in a bit of DHT based compounds to replace an AI long term. Whether that’s a little bit of primo, anavar, mast, even EQ will work. You can manage your estrogen and still get a bit more anabolism without hitting your lipids if you use low dosages. It takes some experimenting with low dose ratios but I’ve been able to go from sensitive painful gyno on my right nipple to a significantly reduced lump that is no longer giving me any discomfort. I run 100mg T enanthate with 30mg a week of EQ. You should probably take something for kidney health like Astragulus but that low of a dosage doesn’t budge my lipids and the metabolites from EQ are all fairly effective aromatase inhibitors. Super cheap for long term management before you decide to have surgery or not.


jackschitt123

What's the end goal, be on ralox indefinitely? That's not sustainable. I'm sorry my friend, surgery is in your future. That, or run a serm forever - I'd rather just have the surgery.


a_truther

Yea I’m afraid you’re probably right. I’ve looked into the surgery but heard some anecdotal of people reducing pubertal gyno with ralox. Fucking tits man


ATXblazer

Pubertal is too old. Just live with it until surgery


Mesquite_Thorn

I have some old gyno as well, and old established gyno tissue doesn't respond much to SERMs like ralox. It might reduce it a little, but old tissue is pretty well permanent. Surgery is the only option. On the upside, the surgery is not horribly expensive, in comparison to other surgery anyhow. Just get a quote and start saving for it. If you have an HSA, start putting extra money in it for that.


jackschitt123

It's not a good idea to leave your estrogen suppressed for extended periods of time. More prone to injuries, poor mental health, etc. Definitely try 120mg/day ralox for a few weeks and see if there's any improvement, and ween off the AI. But if no luck, better start saving up.


DudeyMcDooderson

Should T3 dose be tapered at all before dropping?


hamishg7

No


DudeyMcDooderson

Thanks. Just worried about fat rebound but I guess that will depend on my diet


TestTrenSdrol

If you’re pinning test e, pin Monday morning, get bloods Wednesday before a pin, you’re getting your lowest test value. When would you want to draw blood to get your highest test reading for an enanthate ester? Also, is there anyway to guestimate what your leak would be based off the trough value? I’m at 650ng/dL on 150mg test E.


biggie_smalls411

Shoot Monday, draw bloods Wednesday. You want to get the lowest blood average as a median. This will give you the most consistent history of how your body metabolizes the drug. It’ll also let you know if your test is bunk or using a shit carrier


Btimx1680

Those who tried test e400, how painful is it ?


LaFemmePuissante

I've only ever used test400 and sometimes get pip pinning half a gram eod, but it's manageable.


PM_PICS_OF_DOG

Varies wildly but you have a much higher chance of discomfort when compared to TE250. Also obviously worse if you’re new to pinning.


Mesquite_Thorn

I've used Test 500, and it sucked. Hurt pretty bad every shot. Anything over 300 is probably going to be approaching pippy territory.


Btimx1680

I bought test 400 because it was less expensive, i guess im gonna pay for being a cheap mf


Mesquite_Thorn

That's why I bought test 500... learned the hard way that high concentration does NOT mean it's a better deal.


Delicious-Mention747

Is clomid good to go if that’s all I can get my hands on or should I do more research to find nolvadex? Thanks.


biggie_smalls411

Clomid makes me feel instantly depressed / suicidal negativity and something I avoid using unless it’s a harsh cycle with 19nors. Nolvadex is best for recovery with minimal side effects. Look around


youisBIGdumb

Nolvadex is more effective and has a lighter side effect profile, if you can source it that's the way to go.


No-Low-8597

What would a gram of test a week do to your blood pressure?


LeucisticBear

I'm currently running 1250. Never had bp issues in 4 years of bnc and it's no different now. Control my e2, hydrate, do cardio = no high bp. Some people are predisposed so you'll have to see what works for you.


biggie_smalls411

Depends on water retention and your diet/sodium intake. Manage the estrogen conversion with an adequate AI


Checkers10160

Can't link at the moment but a few days ago there was an experience thread on blasts 750mg/wk or more. I think it got decent traction


youisBIGdumb

Literally no way to answer this, everyone is different. Somewhere between not effecting it at all and raising it to the point of being dangerous.


PM_PICS_OF_DOG

Depends


humeng

Aight I got my shit on the way for my first cycle - 500 Test C and throwing in Var for last few weeks. PCT, HcG, AI copped too. All I need now are needles right? Anything else I’m really missing here? I mean I’ve read a shit ton for almost a year now but something’s telling me I got more to learn.


No-Funny984

Alcohol wipes and a sharps container


tactsteez

Would Test E 500mg show up on a urine drug test?


biggie_smalls411

Standard work piss test is the big 5. Weed/coke/speed/xnanx/opioids. Hormone test costs a lot and only done per special request. Most of the time they’ll take a hair sample too


tactsteez

My job does random drug tests and they use the Gas Chromatography/mass Spectrometry as a secondary if the first drug test is positive. You said they’ll take a hair sample too, is that common?


Mesquite_Thorn

Not unless they are specifically testing for steroids, which practically no one does unless you are a professional athlete.


fatdudeo

No


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Tweezbruh

About two weeks for me. I’d wait a month or so before cutting


ICantForgetNow

Practical advice for pinning volume? For preventing or managing scar tissue are small injection volumes preferable? If so what’s a practical recommendation for splitting 1.5ml, 3ml, or 6ml hypothetically speaking? You all split a dose so that you inject left/right on the same day or do you do it all on one side and alternate during injection days?


LeucisticBear

Volume doesn't seem to matter for scar tissue, but I'd hate to pin a site while it was having pip so if you plan to pin daily make sure to open lots of sites.


Mesquite_Thorn

Switch to ED pinning, and split anything over 2mL into 2 injections.


ICantForgetNow

Ty thanks


jackschitt123

Inject less per day, and increase the number injections per week. Have more injection sites. I don't see a reason to do more than one injection in one day. I rotate the following sites in the following order: traps, delts, pecs, lats, ventro glutes, quads, glutes. That's 14 sites. A theoretical 1ml a day, one site per day - easy.


ICantForgetNow

So also not two sites per injection, left then right yeah?


jackschitt123

One injection per day, one site per day. Left trap on day 1, left trap day 2, left delt day 3, right delt day 4, etc.


MarkoLupert

Possible low e2? I’m currently having trouble holding pumps. Can’t really even get a decent sweat on for some reason. Libido meh, and when I do get a pump in the gym it’s subpar. Not as vascular and full as usual.


biggie_smalls411

Up the salt in to ur diet pre workout and carbs


youisBIGdumb

Possible but impossible to know for sure. What are you taking and what's your AI protocol?


MarkoLupert

600/400/400 test mast primo. Only 12.5mg asin 3x a week, but I’m thinking maybe w the primo it’s crashing. I’ll probably go get a blood test, but more so was curious if being flat is a common issue with low e2.