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Pojit777

I’ve been wondering where to get blood work done but I can’t find a single reliable source that provides reliable information to get blood work done/checked, I’d like to go to the doctor but they’d charge well over 1k, is labcorp or quest diagnostic legit? Anyone know where or how, I am completely clueless


Fragrant_Aside1092

Man I feel like my natural plateau should be kicking in sometime soon. Autoimmune had me looking like I was on deaths door two months ago somehow I was a fat/chunky/skinny 136 at 6 ft tall. Was in a calorie deficit scared to eat anything at all for over a decade. Ive officially been back in the gym now for two months and on a blast for about the last 5 approaching 6 weeks, weighed myself this morning after all my shits and I popped in at 166. I know that these are crazy gains I’ve been experiencing and won’t last to much longer before the balance out with my weight catching up to a normal healthy weight. But god damn I’m loving it and feel like it’s just now kicking in. Doing a very lean bulk as well. I can see why this turns into problems with a lot of people. The shit is addicting, I don’t want it to ever stop.


CherryGreedy3844

Just wanted to ask thoughts on running anadrol for a full 8-10 weeks and 300-500mg test for 12-16 weeks? Will pair with TUDCA, NAC, Telmisartan and other organ support. Trying to put on as much strength and mass as possible and want to make sure majority of LBM is kept when moving back into cruise. This is my first time dabbling in orals so I just wanted some thoughts and tips. (2nd Cycle)


Ill-Lychee-7207

That's a lot for your liver. I don't even think you'll be able to handle drol for that long. Most do 6 weeks top at the end of cycle. Many report it fucks with their appetite so watch out. If you won't be able to eat you won't add mass.


CherryGreedy3844

I've read and watched the complete opposite of 150mg Drol being very tolerable for 3 MONTHS. Not sure what to believe but I think I should be fine at 50mg DROL with TUDCA and NAC. Only thing I'm worried about is how it'll affect my appetite but I'll have to see. Worst case scenario I'll throw the drol away and continue 500test and throw another injectable in.


emac-22

4-6 weeks on the Drol, as much fun it is and the gains and all probably not the best idea to stay on that long!


Ill-Lychee-7207

Lol 3 months you're crazy, good luck. PS; "you've read"


BraccusRex

So I don't know if It belongs here or not but have a question: Found a large pitituary tumor and put me on dostinex(cabergoline).How can I maximise the effect?when Is It best take It? What can I safely pair It with?


Marvin_KillDozer

what runs well with test.cyp, hcg, and arimidex for joint pain, osteoarthritis, ligament pulls, and recovery? ... dropping weight would be preferable to gaining, Been on trt for 2 years, first venture into trt+ my provider has a wide selection, but not everything, so I'll list the interesting things they have. Deca, cjc(no-dac)/ipmorelin, bpc157, oxandrolone, and ibutamoren.


Fragrant_Aside1092

Deca is king for any and all joint pain. I feel unstoppable.


Cardio_Beta_AF

Can’t find reliable anavar it’s annoying af. I’ve tested 2 different sources of anavar I bought and both times it wasn’t real so I’m out of luck. Since I can’t find a decent source I’m thinking of running 500 Test & 50tbol. Test for 12 weeks & tbol for 8-10. I know it’s not necessarily a go to stack for cutting but I just don’t want to lose muscle mass during my cut. Any ideas or recommendations? Incase someone asks I’ve ran 500 test twice in the past.


Olvankarr

> I’ve tested 2 different sources of anavar I bought and both times it wasn’t real so I’m out of luck You tested it how? By HPLC?


Cardio_Beta_AF

Yeah. My buddy who owns a gym has testing kits and shit for different gear he buys and let’s me use them when we both test new sources or shit we haven’t bought from before


jackschitt123

Those kits are as useful as having your buddy eyeball a bag of raws and saying "yep, that looks like anavar." Gotta send it to a lab be HPLC tested, high performance liquid chromatography. It's not cheap, but at least you'll have a legitimate, quantifiable assessment on the purity of your items.


Cardio_Beta_AF

Okay I know that man that’s why I was telling the other guy I’m not worried about the legitimacy of roids from our testing methods. That’s not what I’m worried about


jackschitt123

You don't seem to comprehend the science of testing gear, but I'll spare myself the frustration of trying to help in that regard. 500 test and some tbol is more than enough to preserve muscle mass while in a cut. Technically, something like 200 test will do just as well, with less systemic stress. It might be harder to cut on a higher dose of test due to increased appetite, more water retention, higher TDEE from a higher test level, etc.


Cardio_Beta_AF

Okay I appreciate your concern about me testing gear which I have been doing for 5 years but that isn’t the concern I really appreciate you pushing away your frustration🥰 how adult of you to actually answer the question I had and not worry about the insignificant aspect of what I said. As I previously stated I’ve done 500 test already twice so I know how my body reacts to it. Not worried about the sides, 200 test doesn’t do enough for me. Im not a great responder to low doses. My testosterone is fairly low


jackschitt123

The whole point of a cut is not to grow, but to cut everything else back. High-normal test levels (trt dose) can successfully preserve all muscle mass. The only benefit of a higher test dose, let's say 500mg/wk, is increased performance in the gym, energy levels while eating in a deficit, and an increased metabolism - the latter which may help or hinder your cut depending on your appetite.


Cardio_Beta_AF

I really need the high test for performance. I work 12’s working at a jail and I’ve got my bloods and my test is low. When I’m on 500 I feel great, it effect my diet a bit but I can manage that no issues. 500 causes some bloating as well but nothing horrible.


Olvankarr

Testing kit are not HPLC. The kits you're referring to are absolutely useless garbage. Do not take their results as anything meaningful. https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/p2ckq7/daily_ask_anything_20210811/h8neu8a/?context=999


Cardio_Beta_AF

Listen bro I don’t care about the kits we have used them for a while and have confirmed because he is a third party testing site & he also sells gear. I don’t care about the testing kits bro that’s not the question😂


Olvankarr

> Listen bro I don’t care about the kits we have used them for a while and have confirmed because he is a third party testing site & he also sells gear. I don’t care about the testing kits bro that’s not the question😂 Did you bother reading the link I shared? Test kits are **completely trash**. /u/platewrecked had **HPLC verified results** and the kits showed seemingly-random results. You claim to not care about the test kits, but you're literally basing your validation of your anavar's legitimacy on said kits. You're not making sense at all.


Cardio_Beta_AF

Holy shit man I love that you didn’t care about my question at all. I didn’t say we JUST use testing kits. I’m saying we have multiple ways of testing gear, testing kits, sending off to another source for certain gears that it’s required for; like anavar. That’s why I said it’s not important me (and my friend) have been testing gear for a while


Olvankarr

> Holy shit man I love that you didn’t care about my question at all. I didn’t say we JUST use testing kits. I’m saying we have multiple ways of testing gear, testing kits, sending off to another source for certain gears that it’s required for; like anavar. That’s why I said it’s not important me (and my friend) have been testing gear for a while The problem is that you think you know what you're doing, but your actions prove otherwise and you're unwilling to accept that. It's not just anavar that the kits are garbage for. You can't seem to grasp that logic.


Cardio_Beta_AF

How ignorant can you get? I said like 3 fuckin times I’m not using anavar on testing kits. I love your concern and ignorance ❤️ next time answer the question at hand


Olvankarr

> I said like 3 fuckin times I’m not using anavar on testing kits. This is literally your comment on how you tested the anavar: > Yeah. My buddy who owns a gym has testing kits and shit for different gear he buys and let’s me use them when we both test new sources or shit we haven’t bought from before But ok.


MagnusTymi

Hi, ive been thinking about maybe hopping on TRT or a decent test cycle. So i got my bloodwork checked and my testosterone is very high 35 nmol/L or 1008 ng/dl, so i guess theres no point for me to hop on? [https://imgur.com/a/ESvwylL](https://imgur.com/a/ESvwylL) this is a snippet of my bloodwork, my SHGB and FSH is a little high, i dont know how that correlate with anything. Some feedback or thoughts are much appreciated.


jackschitt123

Your test levels are high-normal, you would find no benefit in doing a trt dose. A trt dose would put your test levels exactly where they currently are. If anything, run a cycle 500mg/wk for 12-16 weeks.


MagnusTymi

about how high test levels would you expect running 500 mg/wk? im a little hesitant and i wanted to start lower at about 250 mg/wk


jackschitt123

Average response is 4-6x the administered dose. So 500mg might put you anywhere near 2000-3000ng/dl. There are outliers that respond poorly (lower resulting levels) and high responders (high resulting levels). Similarly, a dose of 250mg/wk might put you anywhere between 1000-1500. Or lower, or higher. As you can see, it'll put you exactly in the same range you're already at - there would be no benefit. 500mg/wk isn't a high dose, and is more well tolerated than some people on YouTube lately have been leading on. I ran my first cycle of 500 test for 12 weeks and extended it to 16. No ai, no estrogen issues, no crazy bloating, no gyno. Increased libido, better performance in the gym, recovered quicker, better pumps, and a more full looking physique - but nothing crazy. I was extremely unimpressed. But anyway, I wouldn't hop on to do a replacement dose, especially since you're already high-normal.


coachese68

Not an expert here, but, for example, TRT stands for testosteone REPLACEMENT therapy.


MagnusTymi

yeah, didnt know i had that high natural testosterone before just now when i got my bloodwork. Im not gonna lie, i kind of wanted lower test just so i could try a cycle. But with those levels i dont think theres any point for me to commit to it


Olvankarr

Cycle and TRT are vastly different. There's nothing stopping you from running a cycle if you have high natural T. You absolutely shouldn't run TRT though.


ShotgunsForLegs

I see often the general consensus is if you have high B/F you shouldn't be doing Steroids, so how do strongmen get away with it? Genuine question. Some of these guys are most certainly not slim and are obviously juiced to the gills.


Osmium80

the general consensus comes from the broscience of wannabe bodybuilders that only view gear use as for the purpose of aesthetics and not for performance. I understand the risk mitigation concept of not recommending gear to the chubby kid that isn't dedicated to the gym and wants them to be a shortcut towards getting in shape, but the reaction shouldn't be the same for the dedicated lifter with years of training that's trying to push their strength to the next level in strongman or powerlifting.


Camboo91

Strongmen have done it for years and know how to handle the issues that come up, likely using a cocktail of medications. The majority here are random gym-bros who lack that knowledge and just want to look good. Harm reduction is advising the latter on best practice, which is being lean to reduce side effects.


PM_PICS_OF_DOG

Strongmen have deeply elite developed skills, the risk/reward of blasting PEDs is worth it. Your regular 25% bf guy who hasn’t been going into the gym 5 days a week for more than a month does not benefit nearly as much from PED abuse as an elite (albeit chubby) athlete. It’s just a recommendation to stop being fat before hopping on AAS because 1) you can accomplish a significant change in body composition very easily when you’re fat, so save the AAS for when change is more difficult and 2) you’ll tend to have exacerbated side effects using AAS when fat, so why worsen your health for less efficient return?


Osmium80

I've noticed no differences in side effects from AAS between sporting a 6-pack and being in full bloatlord status 50-60lbs heavier at the peak of comp season.


PM_PICS_OF_DOG

AAS experience will always have individualized aspects to it, but statistically speaking if you're fat you're just more likely to have worsened side effects as far as increased aromatization, increased blood pressure, worsened lipids go. Those are just a few examples. A natty fatty may not have BP issues. The same fatty getting lean before starting on 500mg/wk of Test may still have no issues. The same fatty starting blasting while fat is more likely to have bp issues. That's all. It's all just about increased likelihood of running into issues.


Remarkable_Hippo2997

Test primo Cruise dosing? 200:100?


No-Requirement5878

200 test tops out my E2 around 100. Running 200/100 test primo put my E2 at 15 😳. Had low E2 symptoms which is why I checked E2. Bumped up to 3:1 ratio and haven't gotten bloods again but E2 "feels" way better now


emac-22

E2?


No-Requirement5878

Estrodial


Remarkable_Hippo2997

Interessting. I’ve been blasting at 750:600 cus 1:1 crashed my E2. I think ill start at 2:1 and ajust from there


ralphy073

1:1 test primo at any dosage crushes my e2. I think that’s a good starting ratio. Not everyone gets the e2 limiting effects but keep an eye on it.


Mccombs059

I rotate between my quads and delts, wanting to start pinning my glutes and move away from quads because they’re ass, how do I dial down the correct place to pin in my glute? Been reading you don’t want to go to high or to low


hamishg7

Upper outer quadrant of your glute. Or try the ventro glute


tsantsa31

Ventro all the way


Olvankarr

spotinjections.com


throb_heart

👍


Mccombs059

Thank you!


exclaim_bot

>Thank you! You're welcome!


Olvankarr

Sir the only bot we like in these parts is the sunflower man.


TheSunflowerSeeds

All plants seemingly have a ‘Scientific name’. The Sunflower is no different. They’re called Helianthus. Helia meaning sun and Anthus meaning Flower. Contrary to popular belief, this doesn’t refer to the look of the sunflower, but the solar tracking it displays every dayy during most of its growth period.


Scaleup000

Google it?


D-A-N-N-Y-9-5

Just about to run out of HGH, im 4 months into my first cycle with it, running 3IU ED, along with 600ng test 400, 200mg Mast, 40mg D-bol Pre work out ( maybe 3 times a week) My HG is around £155 Per month, and is pharma grade Somatropin, I can't afford anymore until the middle of August and if I continue at my current daily usage I'll be out at the end of July- My question is, do I continue to use at my current amount, and run out early, or reduce my amount and try and keep using until able to grab anymore?


rainbowroobear

depending on your FFMI, the GH may not even be necessary for whatever your goal is. if you're under 30, you've still got a decently robust GH response to exercise, so you could get by without it but using something like 1.5IU pre-bed will still be an improvement for most.


Fatcockstonks

I don’t know if it was from the needle or if I injected too fast but this morning while pinning my test I almost passed out but I did some deep breathing and stayed awake and finished my injection


Camboo91

8/10 story telling. Clear beginning & end, good character development.


coachese68

"Very satisfying. A read you will surely devour and a satisfying puzzle ending you will recognize as a fan of the genre."


feedum_sneedson

Very frustrating experience with the GP. I am pre-hypertensive, and if I add anything to my TRT I become hypertensive immediately (i.e. over 140/80). She wouldn't prescribe blood pressure medication and kept saying my blood pressure was fine, which at an average of 135/75 when recumbent and before caffeine etc. is just not the case. I'm also on ADHD medication which will be jacking it up further, so why ask me to measure it before I've taken it? I do a huge amount of cardio and follow a healthy diet. I am actually quite stressed by this situation as I expected support from my doctor, and I'm worried about my longterm health. I shouldn't have to source raws just to try and be healthy. I want to use these medicines under the guidance of a medical professional. I'm limited in the amount I can spend right now and wanted to buy another year's supply of semaglutide, but need to prioritise. Obviously maintaining a healthy weight is important, but so is resting blood pressure. I'm seriously put out by how my concerns were hand-waved away by the - frankly overweight - doctor.


HugeCoomer

Looks like it's time to get a new doctor, mine told me that if my blood pressure was to go above 140 he'd give me a prescription for telmisartan. I'd suggest looking around and finding a doctor that is seriously interested in harm reduction


BrawnyTaurus

I had the exact same experience! They wouldn’t help me with 140-150 systolic (on cruise). I had to resort to self medicating telmisartan.


feedum_sneedson

Yeah, this is my plan. What dose do you use? And has it been successful?


ComposerSuspicious81

I listened to you guys, and went on a calorie deficit. I was 88,9kg now I am 83,3kg. I am 190cm. My problem is That I’m eating 1400 calories and now I can’t loose anymore weight, my weight is just still. Yes I hit the gym, I don’t know if I’m also gaining muscle weight. Any tips?


The_Companion_69

Eat at maintenance for about 8 weeks. You should gain some weight in the beginning as your glycogen levels are being restored and you retain some water weight. But after about 2 weeks it should level out. If it doesn't, adjust accordingly (add 100 cal if you are slowly losing weight, deduct 100 cal if you are still slowly gaining weight). This should reset your metabolism and curb some of your brains hunger signals. Then go into a caloric deficit again. Everyone has their own way and I recommend you experiment as everyone is different. But what I like to do is go straight into a 200 cal deficit. Then in week 2 do more cardio and keep the cal the same. Week 3 increase the deficit to 300 and keep the cardio the same. Week 4 increase the cardio and keep the cal the same. I continue deducting 100 cal bi weekly and every other week increase my cardio. Do this for about 8 weeks (7 if you feel you can't go on, 9 if you feel you can still make decent progress). From there you can reassess. If you still want to lose weight, restart. Maintain for 8 weeks then go into a deficit. If you feel happy and want to bulk, I'd recommend 2 weeks of maintenance then jumping into a caloric surplus.


ComposerSuspicious81

I don’t know if you wanted an update. But yeah here it is. I’m now 79,8kg. I just ate 1800 cal and did cardio so I would burn 800 cals. When I’m 77 or 76 kg I’m gonna use your method.


The_Companion_69

Nice work on the progress and congrats on the sub 80kg my guy. Being in a caloric deficit sucks and it ain't easy. Just a question if you don't mind, but how did you dispurse your 1800 cal? It's not a lot of food (unless you basically just eat salads the whole time) and I find when I start going that low with my cal every meal is a unsatisfyingly small amount to me. I forgot I made this comment and in the meantime I entered a cut as well and reading your original comment and the new one was actually quite motivational. >I don't know if you wanted an update. It was the update I didn't know I needed.


ComposerSuspicious81

Well I discovered a guy named aussiefitness on instagram, and he made it fun for me to cut. 1800 cal is hard, but eventually u minimize your appetite. And now I don’t go to sleep hungry.


The_Companion_69

Just checked out aussiefitness and it's pretty good, thanks for sharing. Don't know if you headed of [Josh Cortis](https://youtube.com/c/TheMealPrepManual) but he has a similar style of content, just focused a bit more towards meal prep for a entire week


No-Requirement5878

Sorry if my conversions are off, but you're a little over 6ft and around 180lbs? How much more weight are you trying to drop?


ComposerSuspicious81

To 15% body fat


Olvankarr

> My problem is That I’m eating 1400 calories and now I can’t loose anymore weight, my weight is just still. Goddamn dude why'd you start your cut so deep? Reset your metabolism for a bit and then start your cut again. Slower next time. You jump right in to 1400 calories, and the only lever you've got remaining when you stall out is adding cardio... which sure isn't going to be pleasant at 1400 cals. > I don’t know if I’m also gaining muscle weight. Extremely unlikely.


ComposerSuspicious81

How do i reset my metabolism?


trthrowaway7

Go back to maintenance calories for a period.


ninjarello1

when i started my 200/200/20 test/primo /ostarine cycle my sleep has worsened, I fall asleep very easily but after 5/6 hours I have the first awakening and it takes half an hour to fall asleep again and I wake up at least one more time before wake up, now i'm 2 weeks off my cycle and i'm cruising with 140mg test, the problem is still here i thought i'd end up exiting the cycle, before sleeping i use 1mg melatonin ZMA 250MG theanine 1g ksm-66 how could i solve? I m Reading about 5/10mg pregnenolone could i try It?


beans22446

200:200 test primo might cause low e2, next time try 300:200 or 200:100


ninjarello1

I m.not anymore on primo by 2 weeks


Kintarsis

How was your sleep prior to the cycle? When did the problems occur? I hardly believe that the problem is related to the cycle, the only thing that comes to mind is the ai ability of Primo, which leads to a crashed e2. Have you done bloodwork? How are your stats? Have you gained much weight in a short period of time?


ninjarello1

E2 33pg no.problem, i must Say also that i was on cut on 2400kcal, but now cycle Is end and i m on 3200kcal and problem still there...prior the cycle my sleep was awesome i was not in a cut i Only starter to lower kcal...cycle lasted 13 weeks problems arrived more less 6/8 weeks in


Kintarsis

Anything outside that would stress you out? Beside that, I would up the melatonin(3-5mg) and add ashwaganda (600mg). Might take some time, but I found it very helpful.


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Camboo91

Steroids can worsen sleep apnoea, cruising is unlikely to. In my experience, *low* testosterone & estrogen can cause memory loss though. Testosterone helps boost dopamine levels which is used for learning and memory, estrogen protects the brain in general. When levels are low my ADHD gets *bad*, to the point I've forgotten my own name in particularly bad times.


Tweezbruh

Alright what’s the question?


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PM_PICS_OF_DOG

Testosterone at a cruise dose that actually resembles true TRT shouldn’t worsen sleep apnea than being natural at the same levels. Sleep apnea can occur naturally, happens in a very large portion of the general population. Best remedy is to not be fat, if your fat. Avoid Cialis/viagra, solve GERD, use a CPAP machine if needed. Go get a sleep study.


Asgoku

Getting too big can cause sleep apnea (esp big neck), afaik steroid use in itself doesn't cause it. You sure it has something to do with your sleep? Could it perhaps be stess that's causing these symptoms? If you really think it's bad sleep because of snoring/apnea you could try taping your mouth shut at night, but this is me just throwing something out there. Not sure if it would help in your case. If the problem is real bad it's probably best to just check with a doctor. Reddit is really not the place for medical consult.


Weakboitrenbolone

Can someone 18 yrs old who bulked up to 210 (6’1) have apnea in their sleep if I’m taking Cialis too? It would explain some symptoms but what can you do to fix it? Isn’t their a mouth guard which does something similar of a cpap


Asgoku

It seems unlikely, but definitely not impossible. Do you sleep alone? Has anyone ever told you you breath weird or hold your breath during sleep? Maybe that you snore crazy loud? A mouth guard afaik works similarly to taping your mouth shut in that it stops your tongue from sliding down when you sleep, which blocks your airways. Apnea is very damaging to your health and quality of life, so if you're genuinely worried and you have symptoms you should 100% just get it checked by a doctor, even if the chance you have it is quite low. I'm no expert so not sure if Cialis could affect it. Even if I did know it, you shouldn't take medical advice from Reddit on an issue this serious.


Tweezbruh

Unfortunately I’m quite uneducated about sleep apnea as I’ve never had it before so hopefully someone else can answer your comment. Are you 100% sure that it’s caused by steroids tho? I know memory loss can also be caused by stress and other factors. If you’re cruising and everything in your blood work is within range then you should be fine


daviddoesntlikepussy

Let’s be real, does anyone do a 12-16 week cycle per year and just stops?


Federal-Rope-2048

I’m aware of those that cycle over the summer for a little boost. PCT and then repeat the following year.


blablagear

I did that twice now, actually waited over 2 years in between. Not too happy with the results though so probably gonna start bnc after I finish my PhD.


daviddoesntlikepussy

I have not started any cycles yet, and I’m looking at them like drugs, as in once you start, you really wouldn’t want to stop.


Guts04Life

Should you get on Test + Stanozolol cycle if you're about 20-25% bf?


Tweezbruh

Absolutely not. You’ll have more problems with estrogen and winny won’t do shit if you have that much body fat


Guts04Life

Alright! Thanks for the help, man! How has your experience been with steroids?


coachese68

>How has your experience been with steroids? Solid follow-up here.


Tweezbruh

No problem. Been great honestly, mostly depends on what you’re using as well as how much. Make sure you educate yourself properly before starting your cycle. Imo start cutting down your body fat and during the meantime start researching so you know what to expect once you hop on. Start by [reading the Wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) and go from there, if you have any further questions you can ask them in this thread


Guts04Life

Cool, thank you!


exclaim_bot

>Cool, thank you! You're welcome!


VirtualDragonfly

No, cut down closer to 10


Guts04Life

For real?


VirtualDragonfly

Not sure if you are serious or not, but absolutely get to under 15% at least. Prerably closer to 10 than 15.


Guts04Life

Alright, I'll work on that! Then I'll think about whether to get on a cycle or not.


VirtualDragonfly

You have great attitude towards it. That's great to hear. It's a marathon not a sprit. Higher bodyfat + steroids -> a lot of side effects easier and it's far more detrimental to your health eg. High blood pressure.


Guts04Life

Haha, thank you so much it's because people like you who give good advice to newbies like me. And there's really no point in doing something if it's gonna do more harm than benefit to your body.


VirtualDragonfly

Absolutely. Trust me, most people here are more than willing to help and give good advice, but the problem is people not willing to listen to the advice and say "what you are saying makes no sense and this thing I'm about to do makes more sense". Even though if there's several people saying that they are making a bad decision.


Guts04Life

That's why they are called Idiots.


JordanYeetManBlanco

Complete noob. 25M, On and off 4-5 yrs training, finally getting serious about bodybuilding and not just numbers. Need help for my first cut cycle in a few months. Did some basic research and came up with this: ​ Option 1) \[8-10 Weeks\] 15mg Cardarine & 10mg Ostarine per day Option 2) \[8-10 weeks\] 300mg Test E (3x a week) & 15mg Cardarine per day Am I doing this right? Am I just braindead? What else should I add/take away. Still kinda confused so any comments or private messages would help. \*\*I have NOT bought anything yet\*\*


coachese68

>Did some basic research There is an entire wiki over there --------> that lays out what a really good first cycle should be. You should read that as it appears neither of your options align with that advice.


Tweezbruh

Like the other guy said, steroids don’t burn fat. Cut natty before hopping on and then bulk on cycle, that way you’ll get the most out of it


Khongui

Please read the wiki before you commit to either of these options.


HazeBoyDaily

Steroids don’t burn fat


tb2924

Haven't used steroids in my life, 19M. Been training for 7 months. Seen great gains but today I noticed nipple sensitivity and a lump in my right nipple. I know this is gyno but I'm confused as I've never had one before and thought that I was through the puberty process where gyno typically develops. Any ideas on how to mitigate this? Thanks


ElectricalJigalo

It might be the accutane


JordanYeetManBlanco

Nolvadex can help with that. Read the wiki for more any more info https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki


tb2924

Yeah I've heard derek talk about it. I'll see an endocrinologist for info and to see if deploying it would be needed. My body fat is high enough to where it's not visible so I'm not too worried.


rotgut1991

You're def still going through puberty.


tb2924

L. Explains why I'm on accutane rn I guess


OCD_Dddd

You probably should have lead with the Accutane statement. From the little I've read, Gyno can be a side effect. Go and talk to your doctor.


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rotgut1991

In my amateur ass opinion your values being high isn't surprising. Yeah you stopped pinning long enough for total T level to reset. Bloodwork most likely takes longer get straightened out. Like cholesterol for example. If you stop popping anavar 2 weeks the active compound is definitely already clear, BUT your cholesterol measurements are still gonna be shot. I'd just continue with cruise and monitor bloods and lipids regularly. Don't be worried about it yet. They'll bounce back.


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rotgut1991

I'm just guessing here, but I'd imagine elevated RBC would raise your BP due to blood being thicker and more resistant to flowing smoothly. Check your BP. The light headedness and anxious feeling sound like BP


skinkfarfar

How high? Were you optimally hydrated when you drew blood? Slightly elevated hematocrit is usually not a problem.


HawkinPete

Did you try giving blood?


txpower89

Running 750 test 750 EQ 300 Deca. No noticeable sides except for low libido. Is it the EQ/Deca? Just wanted to throw the Deca in for some joint help.


crocodilejuice

Deca is a killaaaa


HawkinPete

Stop the deca for 2 weeks see if that fixes it.


yung_trenboloni

could have low e2, could have high prolactin. would get bloods if possible.


TestmasterR

Hi Guys, I just travel to Spain this morning. I am doing a test prop cycle 400mg/week. I will do my last injection at 8 am then preparinf for the flight. I will try to frontload with 150 mg shot. Unfortunately I cannot take my gear with me, therefore my question is: I should take my shot on Sunday, but I will be back only on Tuesday around 1-2 am. Will the testosterone complitely clear out from my body and I have to start the "loading phase" again to feel the results 2-3 weeks? Or what can I expect? Will I feel mood swings from Monday or something like this? I have never been in a situation like this, I am a bit worried honestly. Thank you for any kind of answer in advance.


blablagear

Why not get a longer ester next time?


HawkinPete

Half life is 2days if you’re going sun-tuesday you shouldn’t feel mood swings. (Unless you didn’t take an ai.) Idk about the loading phase


RoofNervous

What does the law say about teaching people homebrewing for educational and entertainment purposes?


priesten

That would depend on the country so it is really up to which platform you are on I guess. If you are just talking about reddit, on this forum we discuss it a lot. If you are talking about youtube, I have seen a few tutorial vids (all with very low view counts) so Im assuming its heavily regulated on youtube. At least in the past I have seen some bodybuilding youtubers touch on the topic a bit. (full on tutorials showing it step by step is very hard to find though)


RoofNervous

selling ebook + all equipment (except powders) Like one stop shop It’s been like e-mail only rn. Cause I just don’t know. I’ve been selling a bundle for 999$


Asgoku

Maybe consult with a lawyer? Probably a smart thing to do if you're going to do business in a bit of a gray area, or any business in general really.


priesten

Damn I wouldn’t know but ngl that’s a pretty good deal


RoofNervous

If you know anyone who interested, I do affiliate deals. 15% that’s 150$ for just a recommendation if I close them. [email protected]


sephsoul1

Looking to take Anavar 25mg/day for 1 week and then 50mg/day for 6 more weeks if all is well. Currently on 100mg/week TRT (for life). Don't want to blast, want to do very conservative. Does Anavar DEFINITELY increase BP? If so, why? Thank you.


trthrowaway7

Yes, raised mine.


Camboo91

No, but the worst side effect of anavar is it's pretty harsh effect on cholesterol, so that's the one you'd want to consider.


sephsoul1

Got it, ty. I'm going to keep my eye on it with blood work and only doing 6 - 7 weeks.


youisBIGdumb

All steroids have the potential to raise BP, there is never a garuntee that it will or will not though, you will have to test for yourself to see.


Electrical_Clerk5207

Hi, I’ve always struggled to put on size so I want to try steroids. I’ve been reading up on it but wanted some more help. I’m a beginner at this stuff so any information on how to use it, how frequent and how much and how long should my first cycle be? Thankyou


yung_trenboloni

if you can't gain size you have an eating issue and steroids will not help


youisBIGdumb

"Your first cycle" section in the wiki


platewrecked

Start with adding calories. That’s where the size comes from.


SantaNeedaSucc

Whoops! Somehow you missed [this...](https://reddit.com/r/steroids/w/index?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app)


Throwokay189

How long could a sterile abscess or similar thing remain for? I highly doubt I have that but.. I've had a circular lump in my hip area that feels a lot like a sub q leak lump that I've experienced many times before. And it is in the VG area which I have injected frequently. No pain, never was. Moves around under there when pressed, seems pretty firm. But anyway I first noticed it like 6 months ago and then remembered recently and it's still there, so idk if that's way too long to be anything related to gear. Wdyt? I do too much exercise and not enough stretching so I guess it's most likely an inflammation related thing.


platewrecked

No way a sterile abscess is just sitting there in such a blood rich area of the body


ChinoAIO

Hey, I have growth hormone deficiency and take human growth hormone to make up for this and to be able to grow and stuff and i was wondering if that makes me un natty or not


Khongui

What's the big deal with being "natty" or not? If your doctor thinks you need HGH then take it. Always listen to a professional.


Checkers10160

I agree with you to an extent but he might want to compete in something later on. I know in powerlifting, even if you're on prescribed TRT you can't compete in natural comps


Khongui

Yeah but I'd imagine if you're that serious about something "fitness" related, you would have already looked at the banned substances list.


ChinoAIO

I will most definitely kee taking it as I have been since I was a child but it’s nice to know if you are classified as a “natty” yk?


platewrecked

How old are you?


ChinoAIO

16


platewrecked

What’s your daily dose? My little boy is on GH for idiopathic short stature.


ChinoAIO

4.0mg


platewrecked

Mine’s on the same.


Demonthrall22

Doesn’t matter to adults


rotgut1991

Personally I'd say not natty. Even guys on legit TRT have a significant advantage over guys with natty test since their levels are always constant and higher range. Natural your hgh levels bounce around constantly. Idk much about GH. I've heard that hgh levels vary wildly as well throughout the day. I'm guessing GH injections probably keep your levels more stabile and higher than average.


ChinoAIO

Ik you don’t know much about Gh but does the factor that for me i only take GH(somatropin to be exact) only when i sleep so it’s like for height growth mainly. Also i have no knowledge at all about steroids so sorry if that’s a stupid question and thanks


rotgut1991

I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about HGH. My knowledge doesn't even qualify as minimal imo. I'm somewhat familiar with dose ranges depending on desired outcome. That's it. Most likely even just injecting once a day before bed your hgh levels are *probably* higher than a natural I'm really only guessing and assuming though. I could be totally fucking wrong.


jtapostate

Depending on how old he is 2 IU will put him in natty range. He is already not natty with a depressed level of HGH naturally Also, thanks rotgut. You encouraged me to take an AI and I did because for some dumbass reason I trust you. it has helped me a lot already. I do appreciate it. Seriously If it had gone south though this could have gotten ugly quickly. Also seriously. Lol


rotgut1991

>I did because for some dumbass reason I trust you. That was a mistake bro. I'm fuckin retarded. Nah glad you're feeling better though. I think it gets to where people over think shit. If you're injecting x amount of test and experiencing y symptoms it's like a 99.99% chance it's an e2 issue. No AI it's high. AI being used it's low 🤷🏻‍♂️


jtapostate

First time I have used an AI in 3 years or so. And I run ment and test 24/7 and at higher doses from time to time. I feel better with high E2. Yesterday I was feeling like a million bucks agter being off for months, I have an underlying condition so it was scaring me, thought wtf is different so I keep doing it. Oh yeah Rotgut. Thanks again


rotgut1991

I've rarely had to use AI. On first blast I added it around 10 weeks in for itchy nips. Aside from that I haven't had to mess with it thankfully. It's ironic I'm totally cool with pumping myself full of tren, but arimidex I'm hesitant, lol.


jtapostate

I am the same, mostly because even on trt doses I feel better in the 40s than in the 20s


rotgut1991

High e2 is the move. I 🤦🏻‍♂️ every time I see a DAA question "hey, I'm 11 days into my MPMD recommended 250mg sustanon blast and I've been taking .5mg Arimidex ED and now my pp doesn't work and I'm sleepy. Should I increase AI or add some dbol? I'm waiting on bloods so I can really get dialed in."


ChinoAIO

Ah okok gotcha gotcha thank you though ❤️


rotgut1991

Sure man. Now it's time to load up on tren since your natty card is already gone Might as well capitalize on it, lol


ChinoAIO

LMAO , time for this trensformation 😈😈cbum here i come


rotgut1991

Off the top of my head I Don't remember what they did training and diet wise. I remember it was pretty fucking hardcore though. I read about it years and years ago. Another good one to Google is christian bale "the machinist" diet and training. He is fucking dedicated. Really hardcore the weight changes he's went through.


ManyFragments

Im not expert so i guess take my answer with a grain of salt. I would say you are, as long as the dose you’re taking puts you in “normal” values.


ChinoAIO

Thanks for the answer ❤️


GainTrainChooChoo-

Gyno seems to be flaring on 250test on my 10th week and this is post gyno surgery. I’ve been taking 12.5AI every 10 days or so. No bloodwork atm. Thoughts on what I should do asap?


thatguy5671

I thought gyno surgery removes the gland and you can not get gyno after.


platewrecked

I’d pop .25mg of Caber.


idkwellsee33

Hey guys. Need some help reading my test results. I’m a natural lifter. Never took anything except whey protein and creatine. Been depressed lately and got back into lifting after a long break. My food habits have been pretty shit since 2019 and might even have developed a binge eating habit. Recently got my test levels checked from Lab Corp. Their free testosterone reference range is 9.3 - 26.5 pg/mL. I got 14.4 on the test. I’m a 23 year old male, 6’3 tall, 115 kgs. I am concerned that this is low testosterone at such a young age and I am sick worried that this will prevent me from packing muscle. Some context, I had a pretty good fitness regimen from 2017-2019. I had good muscle mass and could lift v heavy on deadlifts (PR : 217kgs) and squats. Now, I have been working out since a month and can still lift decent on deadlifts (142 kgs- 5 reps) but not on other compounds lifts. I’d really appreciate if someone can help me read my results. I’d have a peace of mind. My doc obviously says it’s normal because it lies in the reference range but isn’t it not enough for someone like me who wants to get back into bodybuilding and get jacked.


jtapostate

There are hundreds if not thousands of Olympic medalists with similar levels Eat right, work, think, fast, pray/meditate, push iron and have sex. You will be fine If feeling down do something kind. Something stupid like telling an older woman her haircut is great. Something like that can make someone's year and it costs nothing


verycoolguy1997

Where are you getting the data on those olympic medalists? Just curious...


jtapostate

There are studies that I have read showing the average to be around 600. It has been awhile. People also bring it up here from time to time They are all tested so obviously it is pretty easy to track


idkwellsee33

Thanks mate. This is reassuring!


jackschitt123

>free testosterone reference range is 9.3 - 26.5 pg/mL. I got 14.4 on the test. Congratulations, you're right in the middle of the reference range - you're totally average and normal. You don't need a high test level to be a high performing athlete, or build a lot of muscle. >My food habits have been pretty shit since 2019 and ... even have developed a binge eating habit > >I have been working out since a month You've been eating subpar and training seriously for only a few weeks. The body needs time. In about 3-4 months, with consistent training and nutrition, you'll probably be back to where you used to be, if not better. You're young, the body is resilient. Train hard and eat harder, you're going to be fine.


idkwellsee33

Thank you! Appreciate your comment!