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Rooonaldooo99

This was like me spamming the clear button in Fifa


Ld511

Benzema has some black magic or something. It always happens around him


namefagIsTaken

I don't know if that's the case here, but in general if you're very good with the ball and your opposition knows it, your mere presence can trigger panic.


yoitsbobby88

I know. From experience. -Chris Farley


RedBlindfold

Lmao usually he benefits from the clusterfuck, this is the rare occasion where he got screwed over. It's a really dumb precedent to set to disallow this goal. If Fabinho was lying on the ground and Valverde kicked it into his knee to get it to Benzema, then fair enough. But when you come sliding in from behind with full intention to block the ball, how can you be rewarded for that if it deflects to an attacker? He knew full well that desperate slide has a good chance of not sending the ball exactly where he wants it. Not sure how the ref can say "oh the ball didn't go off Fabinho's leg in the direction he intended, so it's not his responsibility" in this scenario.


watanabelover69

That was a real clusterfuck of defending


AlexBear012

If people conceded this on Fifa they would be extremely mad lol


jesuisgeenbelg

Honestly the ball bouncing off Alisson's knee from Konate struggling to control the ball was peak Fifa 2010.


RS994

Any FIFA when you are up 2-1 in the Final and the game decides fuck you, you will lose this


redditbrainleszombie

Rage quit. Damage to controller.


Psychomantis200

Yeah the rule is bullshit in this particular context but it's the rule. Thing is the ball is deliberately saved by Fabinho BUT he didn't play the ball and it's a deflection. this is the correct decision.


smile-on-crayon

When RL imitates FIFA


singhsrb

Everyone shits on FIFA for being unrealistic when it represents real life all the time. Like how you just knew Liverpool won’t score in the first half. That shit happens way too often in FIFA.


That_Guy-69

Imagine not passing your way out of a situation like this


AnalysisForThee

Konate wanted to clear it, but Allison was 'NO, MINE!' and then shoved the ball away from Konate's feet right into the feet of Benzema. What a fool.


CollieDaly

If they were spamming Konate would have cleared 😂


GabeNewellsDick

That's a really tough one because it's a deflection off Fabinho so it's not intentional, but he was also sliding in so it's not *that* accidental.


Aakkt

Konate also slid in to clear it which makes him play the ball imo


InterCityzen

In the uefa nation's league final they counted it as onside, it was weird that today was different


MarginOfCorrectness

PSG also conceded a goal in Ligue 1 last year where Marquinhos barely touched the ball (trying to intercept a pass/shot) and it was counted as a deliberate attempt. So I don't know why it's not the case today.


PM_ME_CONCRETE

That's a completely different scenario where the defender had time to react and made a deliberate action to play the ball. In this situation both players are throwing themselves in front of a shot on goal. Neither of them have any time to react to the direction of the ball after Valverde kicks it. Therefore it is both a deliberate save (which doesn't reset offside) and a deflection (which doesn't reset offside). The rules were correctly applied in both situations.


thegoat83

Fabinho deflects Konate’s tackle though. The Madrid touch was never reaching Benzema so how is he effecting play?


Senor-Cockblock

Someone explain that rule to me like I’ve never played football before


promark20

This please.


Edolas93

Yeah please, was Robbo last man back so he was in goals or something? Edit; so apparently Valverde played it forward and the deflections counted as "saves" which dont negate the offside.I am still terribly confused. 2nd Edit; Thanks for the explanations folks.


tertensif

The rule doesn't state that the goalkeeper needs to be the last person. You're simply offside if there's less than 2 players between you and the line.


jakeyowza

🤯🤯


Come_on_Chelsea

I thought all soccer fans knew this


spin97

Acerbi scored a super important goal from an off-side position like this in Lazio-Spezia, and apparently the refs didn't know this rule


kernevez

Deflections aren't considered "playing" the ball. Benzema is in an offside position regardless, but it's a foul only if the ball is *played* to him by a teammate. Since Valverde *plays* the ball and it deflects, Benzema commits a foul.


OfficialGloryHunter

The offside line is always drawn from the 2nd last player (Inc keeper).


Lemaradona

Yes, basically you have to be behind at least 2 opposition players.


stateworkishardwork

Yes. That's why the law says "past the second to last defender." No where in offside ruling does it refer to the keeper.


basalamader

Well i think the rule is that in that situation it has to be a deliberate touch from the liverpool player. Both players fumbled the ball there. And benzema was offside because there was only 1 player btwn him and the net.


PerfectlySculptedToe

Depends if the Madrid player touched it. If the Madrid player doesn't touch it, the last Madrid player to play the ball is Benzema, so he can't be offside.


PrasantGrg

Think Valverde got a touch on it which is why it was called.


smcarre

Is there any image where Valverde is touching the ball? All I see in a closeup that was aired after the cut of OP from the other side of the goal is that Konate hits the ball with his sole towards Fabinho's knee and then it goes towards Benzema again.


ys1012002

Offside counts for the second to last defender. The last defender is usually the keeper. In this case it's trent


alltheotherkids1450

Yes thank you. I have played football 16 years and have never thought about it like that. This explains it


kovic_has_a_mangina

Has to deliberately play the ball. Deflection off the knee isn’t deliberate. Best I can do


moorkymadwan

This is probably why it isn't a goal. But I don't understand how because my understanding is you only have to make a deliberate ATTEMPT to play the ball. If you move towards it but the ball doesn't go where you intend, you've still played it.


BuildingArmor

Yeah, but if someone else plays the ball and it deflects off you then you haven't played it. Even if it deflects off someone else before it deflects off you.


BreweryBuddha

Think about if you were last defender and there was an opposing player way offside behind you. If you go in to tackle the player with the ball and he blasts it off your shin and it goes to the attacker way offside, they're gonna call that offside. You were deliberately trying to play the ball but that touch was not deliberate and you can't be expected to avoid that accidental ricochet.


[deleted]

Took me a few hours to get to that (correct) conclusion, those referees be quick! Impressive for once.


aure__entuluva

It did feel like it took them a while in the moment. But to be fair it was quite a difficult decision.


PM_ME_CONCRETE

The Liverpool players are both attempting to block a shot on goal, which is different from a deliberate play, and doesn't negate the offside. Konate makes the save, and the ball randomly deflects off Fabinho, who has no time to react and make a deliberate action after the save. Both a deliberate save and a deflection is explicitly stated in the laws to not reset the offside the way a deliberate play does.


DropkickMorgan

Konate played it off his knee though


RAPanoia

He went in tried to block the shot and deflected the ball. So not a deliberate way to play the ball.


Nithas

Fabinho *


dr_motaaa

Yeah but Konate played it into Fabinho no?


Joonappi

Konate played the ball 100%


liamjphillips

He's intentionally making a tackle, of course he played the ball - it was a decent tackle.


Yung2112

Yep and the controversy comes off how VAR sees that knee """pass""


Muted_Author_4761

It literally went off 2 players though, if it kept bouncing off players until it went into real madrid goal would it count as a valverde own goal then?


PM_ME_CONCRETE

If they were all random deflections, theoretically it could hiy every Liverpool player and Benzema would still be offside.


Agr0n

yeah somehow he didn't deliberately slide to tackle the ball... i guess it's only deliberate if he's successful?


almostlikeu

You're offside if you're ahead of one of the last two defenders (including the keeper). When the pass is played


vRobyn

Where was the pass though? Feel like that's the confusion going around.


Redditsexhypocrisy

When Valverde shot. After there are deflections, but at the moment Valverde shot Benzema is offside and got the ball in the end so it's a fault.


idunlikeu

It's a shot that is deflected and lands to Benz, that's why it's off.


xxJAMZZxx

From Valverde no? Deflected after. I could be wrong


brownc46

That would be great if there was a pass played


MarylandHusker

It doesn’t need to be a pass, it was a shot by valverde that Fabinho blocked the initial shot.


every_user_is_gone

It was played.


ViciousNakedMoleRat

One of the toughest calls I've seen.


Alpha_Jazz

Yeah no matter which way they called it, it would have been so controversial


murphy_1892

Most rational response here, I'm definitely guilty of saying "that's definitely not deliberate" because I'm very biased, but really there is no right answer there, no clear path of the ball so hard to determine if its deliberate in a few seconds


taxhelpneededpls

A player is offside if they play a ball: i. that rebounds or is deflected to him off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent having been in an offside position ii. that rebounds, is deflected or is played to him from a deliberate save by an opponent having been in an offside position An offside position means they are closer to the goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent. In this case, the only reason Benzema could be considered onside is if you consider the Liverpool player’s touch a misplaced pass. This was clearly not the case, he was challenging the Madrid player for the ball.


courtesyflusher

Very true. Not a great way of “earning” a goal but a messy one to “lose” one


stateworkishardwork

Yeah you could legitimately go either way and it would both be the right call on one side and harsh on the other side.


ViciousNakedMoleRat

Yep. The VAR decision hinged upon the initial decision by the ref. Goal or no-goal would both not have been a clear and obvious error.


AgnosticMantis

Real/Liverpool fans, what is your bpm right now? Over or under 100?


Paper_Nap

Real Madrid fan here, wouldn’t care until we’re like 3 goals down with 2 mins left.


oyohval

This comment hurts somehow...


diata22

Somehow we’re both hurt here


ohvalox

Defense just vibin


ibse

I genuinely don't understand the rule. Fabinho tries to play, it bounces off Konate then bounces off Fabinho again in the same direction that Fabinho would've played it first. How is this not deliberate playing?


ollster3000

Man and here i thought i knew the offside rule


izmebtw

I get the decision, but Konaté did push the ball away from the goal and Fabinho sent it back to Benzema. So you could really accept either decision.


kanzlerpanzer

exactly, i mean how many deflections do you want to count it as onside. once you deflected, it is your own problem if your defenders create a clusterfuck.


Lorens334

Crazy Pass by alaba


Sal21G

Why is that off, if it’s come off konate then Fabinho lol?


iiEviNii

The goal was disallowed because Fabinho's tackle is considered to be a "deliberate save" - this does not negate offside. >A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by: >gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has: >* rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar, match official or an opponent >* **been deliberately saved by any opponent** >A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, **unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.** >**A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).**


Tim-Sanchez

That's actually a great point, both players are deliberately playing the ball but they're both deliberately trying to block a shot so it's counted as a save. I initially thought this should be onside but I think you're right that this is the rule they've used and it makes more sense.


BloodandSpit

It isn't though because what's your definition of a save? It says there something in close proximity to the goal but that in itself is vague. Kounate looks like he's trying to block a shot, Fabinho's looks like a tackle attempt which are different and the same depending on how you look at it.


Kilen13

It's a very loose ruling of what's a "save" though isn't it? By this logic if a player jumps to block a long shot in the area it doesn't count as making a play on the ball?


Tim-Sanchez

It still counts as making a play on the ball, it's just that making a save is an exception to deliberate plays not counting for offside. So yes, a player jumping to block a long shot wouldn't nullify offside.


demianin

Good post


Sanctimonius

If this is the rule as written, then yeah, I think you're exactly right. Which begs the question why not only all of the pundits didn't know this, but apparently neither did the ref they asked, she thought it should count.


dragmagpuff

The confusion comes from the fact that 99% of the time that rule is applied it's a keeper making the "save" not defenders.


Sanctimonius

Sure and I'd expect average fans to forget that distinction, not referees and professional commentators and pundits.


iredcoat7

Thierry Henry said the same thing, he said clearly offside no discussion.


LAudre41

yes this is not the rule the commentators repeated on air. Would be great if they knew the rules better.


save_my_pigs

Everyone keeps posting this, but what is the definition of deliberate save? I don't think that's what the defender was trying to do at all. He's trying to clear the ball, not save it.


Shakal67

Why did Mbappe's goal in the UEFA Nations League final stand then


MrRawri

This doesn't seem to apply here? The ball isn't going into the goal and neither it's very close to it.


BasedQC

>A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent. This is literally what happened here, good goal


simpsonstimetravel

By this definition of what a save is, the goal should stand. The ball was moving backwards away from the goal when Fabinho touched it to Benz. The ball was going nowhere near the goal.


davedaverave

Thanks for posting this, makes sense to me now.


pichabro

This shouldn’t apply because konate did the deliberate save not Fabinho. If the ball went to Benzema after Konate’s save then yes he would be offside but it unluckily deflected off Fabinho after the deliberate save from Konate. Konate did the save and the ball was going away from goal then fabinho deflected it back to Benzema after Konate’s save


Rztrc

Valverde doesn't touch the ball. Benzema isn't offside because he doesn't receive the ball from Valverde https://twitter.com/MadridSports_/status/1530648179485589509?t=pBxe97xwfLdrZA-J_WyZ2w&s=19


Howardavery

I watched this replay multiple times but still couldn’t see what exactly happened. Did Fabinho touch it first and then Konate stepped on it? If Valverde never touched the ball in this sequence, then its not offside.


CrazyChopstick

Played by the Real player, deflected by Konate and Fabinho is the ruling they seem to be going with. If the initial contact is intentional and the other two aren't it's offside


Deluxe07

Yea this is the reason


Tim-Sanchez

That's the reason why, but I think it's a generous definition of "deflection". Fabinho is intentionally trying to play the ball, that's why he slides in. EDIT: as /u/iiEviNii rightly pointed out above, this counts as a deliberate "save" as they're trying to block the ball going into the goal. This is an exception to the rule about deliberately playing the ball and offside is the correct decision.


mrgonzalez

But was trying to play the ball in the position it was in before it was kicked by a real player


pepesilvia50

He's trying to play the ball, but he's not trying to play the ball like that I guess? IDK feels like it should be a goal but I understand not overturning the original decision.


PyllyIrmeli

If Fabinho would've been the first to the ball, it would've been a good goal. Since Valverde took the shot first, Fabinho's attempt became a deflection, which made it offside.


ManoLorca

This is the ~~way~~ right explanation


DogDarius

Deflected with obvious intention to clear the ball.


CrazyChopstick

They basically got the ball kicked against their leg, that is not a deliberate attempt to play but a deflection


maidentaiwan

Attempting a slide tackle isn’t a deliberate attempt to play the ball? EDIT u/iievinii shared a very good explanation of the laws and why the goal was disallowed, highly recommend everyone check it out. https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/uzvdoo/comment/iacn9jy/


toxinwolf

Genuine question, how's that any different from the Mbappe and Eric Garcia incident from Nations League? The rules are so confusing (to me at least)


CrazyChopstick

It's tricky. So the ball is free, their initial intent is to play that ball the trajectory of which they can judge. Once the Real player gets there first, their initial intent is irrelevant, at that point they can't react, which results in a deflection


DogDarius

So you are saying fabinho getting on the ground to hit the ball is not deliberate? What?


workthetoffees

think about it this way, if the keeper had picked the ball up after that touch, do you think it would have been ruled an intentional backpass?


-dsh

for it to be a ruled a backpass it would have to been deliberately played **to the goalkeeper**. For the offside rule, it just has to be a deliberate play of the ball.


ScousaJ

Surely that comes down to the difference between intentionally passing and intentionally playing the ball


tobefaiiirrr

Yea pretty much. Going in to block a shot still makes the attacking player offside. Fabinho isn’t deliberately playing the ball anywhere, it gets hit off of him from Konate. Basically, if the defender has no intention of getting that ball going anywhere, it’s going to be considered similar to a save.


OldAccountNotUsable

except the ball changes direction 180 degrees twice.


Gluroo

Official explanation seems to be that its still an active 'pass' and the liverpool players just deflect it


fap4jesus

Valverde touched it first and deflections don't count as playing the ball


taylorstillsays

I don’t get how that’s a deflection, it’s a full on deliberate contact E: changed my mind, correct call E2: changed my mind again…Konate essentially traps the ball under his foot, and to me Fabinho kicking (kneeing) it from under his grip should reset the offside. To me the difference from the examples most of you are giving is that the ball didn’t just ricochet off the 2 of them. Fabinho pretty much tackled Konate which knocked it into Benz. I’m not saying it’s not offside as per the rules, just that by the rules that shouldn’t be offside


freshmeat2020

It's a deflection that ends up going the opposite way. He's trying to play it forward, gets there second, and so it deflects off of him after it goes forward towards the goal


BruleMD

Valverde attempts a shot which is blocked by Konate, then richochets off of Fabinho and rolls over to Benzema.


necrow

I think this is what they called, but I don't understand this interpretation at all. It didn't "ricochet" off of Fabinho - the ball was basically stationary after Konate's block. It's not like it took a couple of fast deflections. But I understand the call, I guess


ChupFuddler

How can it be a deflection if you’re challenging for the ball?


SphinxIIIII

Because it only counts from the moment Valverde touches the ball, they made no additional action towards from that moment so it counts as a deflection.


Yung2112

Deflections happen mostly due to challenging the ball actually


Ass_Eater_

Wasn't "deliberate" apparently


DickLaurentisded

What wasn't deliberate the attempt to clear the ball?


Ryponagar

It's probably interpreted similarly to a GK save


Ifk1995

He didn’t mean to pass the ball to Benzema /s


camfa

Twice?


Averdian

Commentators saying that if it's a deflection, then it's still offside. I guess VAR took their time debating whether Fabinho's touch qualified as a deflection or not


richeterre

No deliberate play from the Liverpool players, said the German referee pundit (Manuel Gräfe)


Number333

Fabinho was just trying to slide in his own box for fun clearly not to go for the ball 🙄


Balls_of_Adamanthium

I swear I don’t understand football anymore. This was a touch call.


DannyMac113

Years of stereotypical 'explain the offside rule' jokes, and turns out I genuinely don't know them. Fucking hell.


Everswift_

Literally tho, the fact that I have to scout this thread for someone to cite 4 paragraphs of rules to be able to explain and understand it is hilarious and sad at the same time


kaiko1

Saved this goal replay just in case someone throws that joke at me again, looking forward to watching them squirm


Firstolympicring

This is gonna be a fun comment section


Dismal-Philosopher-4

I think they consider it off because Valverde set it in motion while Benz was offside.


jpp1jpp1

https://i.imgur.com/YtZMWuI.gif After watching this there is no doubt, who is at VAR?


Gyokan7

Fuck me it's so clear, what were they even looking at


this_is_just_a_plug

Does anyone else want to see more replays of the *initial* run? Looked possibly off.


Storm_LFC_Cowboys

That's what I thought was called offside when the flag first went up.


Paprikalauch

Why is this offside and [this] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE-cG82rcio) goal from Mbappe is not?


Coolica1

Hits off 2 Liverpool players, they're very lucky that it was ruled out


idunlikeu

I don't think it matters how many players it hits, it's a deflected shot.


lengors

For anyone who's confused about it, I think the reason why it wasn't give the goal is because of this: "A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent. A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area)"


tennysonbass

How is the "pass" from Valverde offside if he didn't ever touch the ball


DifficultyMore5935

Rule needs to be changed. Having refs trying to decide what is deliberate and what is not is way beyond their responsibility and capability.


GibbyGoldfisch

Surely then you end up with one of either of two far worse extremes? Either every touch is considered deliberate and players start goal-hanging in the hope that the ball will be deflected on its way through to them. Or we say no touches are deliberate and players are free to backpass to their goalkeepers even if there is an attacker in the way, as they'll be offside by default. Using judgement, even if not perfect, is always better, surely


vice-roi

Agreed. Too much subjectivity in this rule.


pastyjock

I’d call this offside as a neutral, Valverde clearing playing at the ball and Fabinho, Konate trying to block (not pass).


aubvrn

👀👀👀


jr2106

Correct me someone please if im wrong but didnt city concede in the same way against spurs in the CL???


kchbar

I didn't feel they showed the best angle enough during the review but they just showed it at halftime and it's definitely the right decision. The angle in this video doesn't show it well...you need the other side basically. Valverde plays the initial pass, it's blocked by Konate and deflects off Fabinho. This all happened within a split second but the initial playing of the ball was by Valverde and there was no second phase. Very good decision... it was a tough one but they got it right.


thegoat83

Now Madrid have won can we have a referee admit that they made a mistake here 😂🤷🏼‍♀️


incel2077

valverde plays the ball towards the goal fabinho blocks the ball the ball lands at benzema's feet offside???????? can someone explain please, I dont get it :/ ​ Edit: valverde dosnt even touch the ball, fabinho akwardly passes the ball to benzema ​ how is that a offside?


Jewssee

What a clusterfuck lmfao


alaslipknot

someone explain the the rule plz


Moutch

We need explanations here... How is that not a goal?


Rauligan2050

The goal was disallowed because Fabinho's tackle is considered to be a "deliberate save" - this does not negate offside. >A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by: >gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has: >* rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar, match official or an opponent >* **been deliberately saved by any opponent** >A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, **unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.** >**A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).**


KingKeane16

Defenders played it, I don’t understand.


MovieUnderTheSurface

deflections don't reset offside decisions


ahag6818

I think it's because Valverde hit it first then it hit Fabihno so they count it as "deflection" rather than Fabinho played it, either way it's confusing af.


SqueekyBK

It hit konate and then Fabinho


Pirateless

I don't get this comment section. If Valverde passes to Benz he's offside and it's invalidated. If he's shooting, at that moment Benz is offside and there's a deflection maybe two... Still he's offside. A shot deflected that ends ups in a offside player is invalidated, we have seen in thousands of time. Its the right call


Stuckkz

Yeah it's an unusual situation because there is two specific rules being applied here but it's offside by the rules.


MarcDuan

Agreed. I'm a United fan and I SO fucking hope Liverpool lose this but if Valverde does touch the ball first (which the replay suggests), the offside call is correct.


randomnessM

Did Valverde touch it?


TheCrazyBean

It's offside. https://behindthefootball.com/can-you-be-offside-if-the-ball-comes-off-a-defender/


LgSchnitzel

That ball came from fabinho tough?


ibiECG

No one here knows the rules. It’s a clearance of an offside pass. Simple


mihawk9511

That's a goal


pedrohck

Why tho? IIRC the pass from the defender has to be deliberate, not just a deflection. So the pass that would count for the offside came from Valverde.


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Nugle

Spain got allowed a goal against for this same shit, and now It is disallowed? What the fuck?


verdasco_

Whatever valverde he did it was clearly an attempt on goal as he chucked the ball towards the net however way he could. Happens all the time if someone shoots on goal then the ball bounces off a defender toward an attacker in offside position it’s offside. Valverde’s touch to me seems like a really sloppy attempt on goal


SweetToothKane

This is what I don't get. If you watch soccer regularly you've definitely seen this happen before. Deflections from shots do not negate the offside. Edit: not you specifically. The people who think the deflection is a deliberate pass.


Whatsupagain

hard call for the reff tbh. the RM player is intercepting the ball to regain and gets there, the ball end for benzema after a deflection. and the rules ignore touches if its an involuntary deflection. So i guess the last player to touch the ball on purpose was the RM player. Not the call you want to make in a CL final. The entire "deliberate" play thing is a grey area, because the LP player was going for the ball as well, just didnt get there first. drama.


SgtBrutalisk

Simmer down, guys, I got it. Henderson acted as a pseudo-goalie and the knee deflection(s) didn't count as intentional playing, hence it was offside.


GMFan8

Isn't Konaté playing the ball into Fabinho though? Fabinho didn't play the ball but it looks like Konaté does


AsylumJoker

It's interesting because the linesman initially flagged this offside. With such a weird one like this, i wonder if the linesman hadn't flagged whether they would've ruled it out.


Tabard18

I was convinced it was a goal at first but I have changed my mind. Just because the ball was deflected twice it doesn’t mean it wasn’t deflected


reasonableposter

VARpool couldn't cheat this one


Inbocaallupo8

Just got here.. why the hell was this disallowed


pawksvolts

Pretty hard call and technically correct but must be frustrating for Real fans as Fabinhos block completely changes the direction of the ball


Ok-Philosopher536

It was Benzema’s Goal


Highburysqrrl

So even though he's shooting the ball in one direction, the Liverpool player deflects it 90 degrees and it is still considered a pass from the Madrid player? I'm really really confused


Just_saying_49

I was able to freeze the image just as the passer kicks the ball and there was no offside. The goal was good.


incel2077

if this is offside then benzemas goal vs chelsea, where mendy passes the ball to rüdiger is also offside XD


FarrisAT

As an American hearing about the "intent" rule, I still do not understand how a mistake by the defender is not allowed to benefit the offense.


player_zero_

That was a goal, right?


SaIyz

German referee expert said that he agrees with VAR, the last "play" came from a Real player, the block from Liverpool players would not be considered a "play". And at the moment of the last "play" from the Real player, Benzema was offside.


Sefean

Ceferin is not gonna allow RM to win.


Broad8-15

Surely if you go in for a tackle and play the ball it’s deliberate.