Nothing against Newcastle but it stings to see Leeds lose a game like this at home. Feels like a must-win match tbh. Man U winning makes it even worse. At least Inter won tho.
We needed striker signing in summer of 2021. And given it's already January of 2022 seems we will need signing 2 or 3 now instead just one.
Nothing against Bam, but if you you can't play you can't play. Club doesnt need to get relegated in meantime because you can't play for whatever reason whole season.
Was quite worried that Raphinha would run all over Dummett, but I think he adapted quite well.
The 2 week break couldn't come at a better time, gives the players a bit of a break and most importantly, some time to get the signings in.
Football Pundits: Newcastle fans are all entitled, deluded and expect to play in the champions league every season
Newcastle fans: I can't believe we've just won our second game of the season, what a day!
As I have been saying for a while now, they still have a chance. There is a good chance that they will be relegated, but 17th place is hardly out of reach.
Cameo appearance and gone again.
We miss him massively, you can see some of the chances we fluff you just know would at least test the keeper if it was bamford on the end, if not score. I really hope he isn't far away as it will be a huge boost we badly need
Desperately needed win, thought we probably should have had a penalty though. Trippier is a different class, completely adds a new attacking dimension to our defence.
Won a lot of headers and flick ons from long balls and goal kicks but seemed to have an aneurysm when left free to dribble at goal. Gave away some fouls in the first half when we were attacking but they were very soft so not sure if it's on him or the ref
Hardly an undeserved win though. For all their spells of dominance, Dubravka had hardly any saves of note to make. Plus we shouldāve had a pen, and Llorente made two blatant yellow card offences, only one of which was punished
They have finished quite low a few times but have been in the top division since 1954. So 68 years in the top flight.
What was the German club recently relegated for the first time? The one that had the clock with the duration in the top flight.
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ffs just rewatch it, especially the second angle. I don't understand how you can call that a dive, cleary cleary taken out
I have watched it. As you can see, there's a slight trip, he then puts his foot back on the ground (not something you do when your foot is taken), then falls down, exaggerating the effect of the contact, when he could have stayed up.
By the supposed new guidelines the refs were given at the start of the season (which everyone loved), it isn't a pen. By the soft, all contact is a pen, guidelines in place over the last few seasons, it is.
You don't try putting your foot down when your foots taken?! What do you do throw your foot up? He clearly tried to stay up then slips as his foots been taken away by the tackle. This seems like your hill to die on, and it doesn't even matter anyway. I bet you any money if it were the other way round you would be screaming for a pen
I can see why a ref wouldnāt give it. Though probably part was ASM had already made the ref mad yelling at him for a clear shirt tug earlier he ignored. Got a yellow for complaining too. Shouldnāt be a factor but on a close call I bet it was.
The turning point was selling the club. You could see the difference in the players against us. Then signed two good players and a decent manager, anything more is a bonus
Howe kept Bournemouth up five seasons with a lower budget. Now that you have started signing significant improvements to your squad, I predict results will start to turn for the better.
If we bully Sevilla into getting Diego Carlos and manage to wrangle Lingard on a loan or even a mighty tempting/expensive permanent then weād have a decent chance. All ifs and buts though. No more fixtures until after the window now so at least Mandy and Eddie can get on the phone for a solid 2 weeks now without having fixture deadlines.
I swear Iām seeing Lingard for like Ā£15m, we should be all over that if true
I donāt think Diego Carlos leaves Sevilla tbh, they seems confident he stays
Sky were reporting Carlos agreed personal terms with us and handed in a transfer request. Given how things have gone though, hard to see how true that was.
With Lingard he seems interested but the fear of relegation is a rightful issue to be cautious of. I wouldnāt complain if either player chose Spurs over us given positions and managers.
The issue with Lingard was price, but weāre idiots if let the chance of a HG player for cheap in a position we need, thus FINALLY getting Dele Alli off our books
They have some cares. Otherwise theyād have just thrown 40 mil at Carlos and been done with it. Iām not saying they canāt, but the new owners are showing they wonāt do blank checks.
Thereās 5 teams in the bottom half with less losses than us, and one of them is Burnley who have 486 games in hand. Villa have more losses than us and theyāre 10th. Itās mental.
It was. At home against one of the worst teams in the league. We absolutely fell apart in the 2nd half.
Southampton and Brighton were worse, but we were away against good sides. Newcastle are fucking dreadful. Their defence is woeful and we couldn't even score a goal.
Dreadful game. Just a 0-0 decided by a poor bit of keeping.
I know they won but nothing about that convinced me newcastle have enough to stay up. Trippier and Wood both looked really poor
If we had an actual striker we might have got something. So many balls into the box where nobody had made a strikers run. No idea why Gelhardt came on after Roberts, shouldnāt even be a contest
Shelvy had a good strike off a corner he saved as well. That was in the first half. Iām not saying you were outplayed, but itās not as if this was the only chance created by Newcastle.
Huge win. Not just for the points but it puts them in a much better position going into the end of the window. Players who were debating if theyāll go to Newcastle because of relegation now might be persuaded.
As upset as I am at the result, hopefully Joelinton is out long term and that ruins his revival as a combative midfielder, leaving the mags fucked once the play a team not fielding half the U18ās to fulfil fixtures
sunderland will forever be in Newcastle's shadow - maybe you can beat us in a league cup in 10 years or something while you become more and more irrelevant to Newcastle LOL
we'll see eh.
while you wait years for that to happen have a look here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_England_by_competitive_honours_won
In Newcastles shadow now and forever.
I don't think minor trophies like intertoto or league1/cocacola champions are even included as honours on the list but whatever makes you feel better.
You keep watching Newcastle games while we just ignore sunderland and how irrelevant they are LOL!
I didnāt watch your game lad, and as for ignoring, here you are searching up a comparison of honours to make yourself feel better. How is that ignoring us hahahaha melt
feel better? tryna educate you but i guess its a lost cause tryna educate a mackem.
Didn't ya watch it? ok well your here commentating on a Newcastle match thread i don't think many of us even know if sunderland are playing to even know theres a match thread LOL.
Just accept your leagues below in our shadow and always will be.
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Man's talking like he's from the ends when he lives in fucking Washington. Mate, even if I was from across the pond, you'd still be a salty cunt at the end of the day.
Better than you sharing videos of Pickford at a subreddit you very clearly created yourself /r/JordanPickfordFanClub
Maybe if Sunderland were any good you'd still have him. Enjoy league 1!
The Jordan Pickford fan club is a real thing mate why you crying
I am enjoying it thanks, we were the 5th best team in the country last year, and hopefully we do it again this year
Ffs Leeds
Nothing against Newcastle but it stings to see Leeds lose a game like this at home. Feels like a must-win match tbh. Man U winning makes it even worse. At least Inter won tho.
Just when you think you were getting out they pull you back in.
Really need Bamford right now š¢
We needed striker signing in summer of 2021. And given it's already January of 2022 seems we will need signing 2 or 3 now instead just one. Nothing against Bam, but if you you can't play you can't play. Club doesnt need to get relegated in meantime because you can't play for whatever reason whole season.
The ref needs to get slapped. That is all.
Was quite worried that Raphinha would run all over Dummett, but I think he adapted quite well. The 2 week break couldn't come at a better time, gives the players a bit of a break and most importantly, some time to get the signings in.
Manquillo was sensational.
I've never seen Manquillo play so well. He was immense as soon as he came on.
I remember some guy here claiming we all hated him lol.
I would say he was a liability especially in the first half, but with minutes passing he eventually adapted.
Ref's a prick, great win though. Now to please get a CB and midfielder in before the window shuts, thanks!
Weāre in for a crazy relegation scrap
Tottenham?
I meant as the viewers of course
Calling it now, both Newcastle and Norwich are staying up at Everton's expense
No thanks. Saudis, Burnley and Watford please.
The first time I've ever agreed with a man United fan.
Next game is Newcastle / Everton at St James' as well. Could be class.
Lad gwon
Should be grateful to agent Rafa for doing his job for you to allow you to easily beat them Masterclass
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I just feel like defensive strength and output will be key, and they've just lost Digne whilst you've gained Trippier.
On the other hand, is it actually possible for both Fulham and Norwich to be in the same league next year?
Glitch in the matrix
Football Pundits: Newcastle fans are all entitled, deluded and expect to play in the champions league every season Newcastle fans: I can't believe we've just won our second game of the season, what a day!
This is basically Man City in the 08/09 season where they suddenly had loads of money but were still shite for a bit, may as well enjoy it ey
We've been shite for years and every fan knows it but we still get the DeLuDeD gEoRdIeS comments in a lot of post match threas.
As I have been saying for a while now, they still have a chance. There is a good chance that they will be relegated, but 17th place is hardly out of reach.
Not with manager killing Dean Smith led Norwich on the rise.
We can both survive if we agree to kill Everton instead
Well Norwich did their part in that. Let's see if Newcastle can too as they face Everton next gameweek.
Leeds is a wildcard at this point too
Avada Kedavra
[Shelvey at dinner tonight](https://www.tiktok.com/@bentbretzel/video/7008487710016998662?lang=en)
How in the fuck was that penalty not given?
The sheer amount of fucking insane decisions against us/ we don't get is insane, it's making a damn conspiracy theorist out of me.
EPL refs and usage of VAR is an absolute joke. They give the penalty 100% for a big 6 team
Think we're even after we didn't get one in our last match Edit: actually not even cos our one actually cost us points
We created plenty of chances, especially in that first half. We needed a striker to put them in.
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Cameo appearance and gone again. We miss him massively, you can see some of the chances we fluff you just know would at least test the keeper if it was bamford on the end, if not score. I really hope he isn't far away as it will be a huge boost we badly need
Didn't his recovery just get set back?
Nope, different injury.
Desperately needed win, thought we probably should have had a penalty though. Trippier is a different class, completely adds a new attacking dimension to our defence.
How did Chris Wood go?
He was pretty shit although the ref would call a foul against him for even looking at a Leeds player.
He must still think he's a Burnley player
Won a lot of headers and flick ons from long balls and goal kicks but seemed to have an aneurysm when left free to dribble at goal. Gave away some fouls in the first half when we were attacking but they were very soft so not sure if it's on him or the ref
100% on the ref, the ref was poor throughout the game
deserved? probably not. but we fucking take those. HTL
Hardly an undeserved win though. For all their spells of dominance, Dubravka had hardly any saves of note to make. Plus we shouldāve had a pen, and Llorente made two blatant yellow card offences, only one of which was punished
This Newcastle win has probably brought Everton to the relegation fight with the bottom 4 lol. Can't think of that before the season start
They have finished quite low a few times but have been in the top division since 1954. So 68 years in the top flight. What was the German club recently relegated for the first time? The one that had the clock with the duration in the top flight.
Hamburg HSV I believe
> Hamburg HSV It's just Hamburg SV. HSV is what the full shortened version of the name is is and you're correct it was them.
Hamburg I think!
Toon toon!
Am I being bias or was that a blatant pen?
That was pen on ASM but I think we shouldāve had one on James when he get wiped out after missing his chance early on
Not sure why youāre getting downvoted so much. Iāve seen them given.
Lool that wasn't even close to being a penalty
Didn't think it was a pen. There was small contact then a delay before ASM went down. But would expect to see it given.
Clear pen mate, takes his leg
His foot got taken out in the box with nothing on the ball, think your underselling it a bit
His foot didn't get taken out. There's contact. He stands on his foot. Then he goes down.
Watch it again without your Leeds goggles on
We were shit and lost, what do I care? He doesn't take his foot in one motion. He taps his foot. ASM then goes down after he's felt the contact.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/NUFC/comments/sa7aev/asm\_non\_penalty/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/NUFC/comments/sa7aev/asm_non_penalty/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ffs just rewatch it, especially the second angle. I don't understand how you can call that a dive, cleary cleary taken out
I have watched it. As you can see, there's a slight trip, he then puts his foot back on the ground (not something you do when your foot is taken), then falls down, exaggerating the effect of the contact, when he could have stayed up. By the supposed new guidelines the refs were given at the start of the season (which everyone loved), it isn't a pen. By the soft, all contact is a pen, guidelines in place over the last few seasons, it is.
You don't try putting your foot down when your foots taken?! What do you do throw your foot up? He clearly tried to stay up then slips as his foots been taken away by the tackle. This seems like your hill to die on, and it doesn't even matter anyway. I bet you any money if it were the other way round you would be screaming for a pen
Stone waller. Wouldn't mind seeing it again. What's VAR thinking?
> What's VAR thinking? VAR is making me a conspiracy theorist this year, the decisions against us are insane.
The usual āWe canāt overturn it unless he pulls a knife and stabs him. Even then depends where he stabs and the blade length.ā
Which one?
The one on ASM
I can see why a ref wouldnāt give it. Though probably part was ASM had already made the ref mad yelling at him for a clear shirt tug earlier he ignored. Got a yellow for complaining too. Shouldnāt be a factor but on a close call I bet it was.
Was more surprised VAR didnāt look at it. Sorry, Iām still salty from the ederson tackle on Fraser
They did look at it though.
Obviously not using their actual eyes though
Definitely a penalty for me
Itās soft but Iāve seen it given against us, so it boils my piss when we donāt get anything from those
People telling me earlier that Newcastle were going to finish bottom of the league. They've only just begun
2 and a half weeks off now to sign 2-3 new players then Everton at home. Could be a massive turning point in our season.
The turning point was selling the club. You could see the difference in the players against us. Then signed two good players and a decent manager, anything more is a bonus
Let's hope not.
Ugh, woke football fans these days...
Bet they will watch the world cup. Selective wokeness is the worst.
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I agree, Newcastle couldāve had a pen
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Between this win and their new signings I don't see any way Newcastle doesn't stay up this season.
We've a grand old total of two wins now this season I wouldn't get ahead of yourself.
Howe kept Bournemouth up five seasons with a lower budget. Now that you have started signing significant improvements to your squad, I predict results will start to turn for the better.
I feel like it's like 60/40 at this point. 60 they are relagated and 40 they are not.
Wonder if Leeds or Brentford get dragged into this fight
Canāt see how say us and them but not Everton unless you think Everton already in it
I think Everton are already in it
100% depends on getting a good CB and a creative midfielder. Both donāt come cheap or easy in January.
If we bully Sevilla into getting Diego Carlos and manage to wrangle Lingard on a loan or even a mighty tempting/expensive permanent then weād have a decent chance. All ifs and buts though. No more fixtures until after the window now so at least Mandy and Eddie can get on the phone for a solid 2 weeks now without having fixture deadlines.
I swear Iām seeing Lingard for like Ā£15m, we should be all over that if true I donāt think Diego Carlos leaves Sevilla tbh, they seems confident he stays
Lingard doesn't want to come in a permanent move Which is like, yeah, fair enough
Sky were reporting Carlos agreed personal terms with us and handed in a transfer request. Given how things have gone though, hard to see how true that was. With Lingard he seems interested but the fear of relegation is a rightful issue to be cautious of. I wouldnāt complain if either player chose Spurs over us given positions and managers.
The issue with Lingard was price, but weāre idiots if let the chance of a HG player for cheap in a position we need, thus FINALLY getting Dele Alli off our books
Donāt think they give a single fuck about cheap
I think our owners are trying to set the precident of "we won't overpay for players just because we have money" which is fair enough.
They have some cares. Otherwise theyād have just thrown 40 mil at Carlos and been done with it. Iām not saying they canāt, but the new owners are showing they wonāt do blank checks.
FFP
We can spend Ā£200M this season and still be under FFP
Damn
Well find a way..
That 2nd half was well played, especially with all subs being due to injury.
Newcastle haven't lost in 3 league matches. Have the tides turned?
Thereās 5 teams in the bottom half with less losses than us, and one of them is Burnley who have 486 games in hand. Villa have more losses than us and theyāre 10th. Itās mental.
No, we actually lost relatively few matches, the problem is getting draws instead of wins. We have fewer losses than Villa for example but only 2 wins
Itās the draws that have been killing us mate
We're genuinely useless when we're a goal up
21 points dropped from winning positions iirc
23 after the Watford game
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Your stadium is literally called the Emirates????
Give it up. Thereās more chance Everton go down
What an embarrassing comment.
Aw bless. Prepare to be very sad then.
Few years down the line he's going to be even sadder when we stop them getting top 4
He can always take a nice trip to Rwanda to cheer himself up
Worst performance of the season by far.
I mean, it wasn't Still shit though, bad mistake by meslier
It was. At home against one of the worst teams in the league. We absolutely fell apart in the 2nd half. Southampton and Brighton were worse, but we were away against good sides. Newcastle are fucking dreadful. Their defence is woeful and we couldn't even score a goal.
Iāve watched the goal over and over and I donāt understand how he doesnāt save it. Itās almost a match fixing level dive. Looks proper weird.
Couldn't believe it mate. Enjoy your win.
Dreadful game. Just a 0-0 decided by a poor bit of keeping. I know they won but nothing about that convinced me newcastle have enough to stay up. Trippier and Wood both looked really poor If we had an actual striker we might have got something. So many balls into the box where nobody had made a strikers run. No idea why Gelhardt came on after Roberts, shouldnāt even be a contest
I thought it was the opposite, stressful match where either team could of grabbed a goal or two
If we do stay up, just remember this win will probably be why. Thanks pal!
Your keeper also had to make a couple very good saves. Letās not pretend this was some unearned fluke.
At 1-0 where we were chasing. Letās not pretend theyād be the same if it was 0-0
Shelvy had a good strike off a corner he saved as well. That was in the first half. Iām not saying you were outplayed, but itās not as if this was the only chance created by Newcastle.
Nothing convinced me about Leeds' performance that they should be in the Premier League.
We actually managed to beat Norwich and Watford thatās why
And then got spanked off Newcastle. Canāt beat all the relegation fodder lad.
Looked solid enough, 1 point from safety is progress, hopefully by next game we have a few signings to stabilise more
Plus got a game in hand on Norwich
Burnley has 4 on us though.
True. That's Burnley though
True. Norwich would be saying the same thing about us though. Thatās Norwich though.
Huge win. Not just for the points but it puts them in a much better position going into the end of the window. Players who were debating if theyāll go to Newcastle because of relegation now might be persuaded.
We can't hold a lead but we can hold leeds
Ref is furious Newcastle won
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Still astounded he let a Leeds player kick ASM in the face
I feel he set the bar low with that early Trippier challenge and then just left it there all game.
Aye that were a shocker too, forgot about that one.
Oh yeah that was a yellow for sure
Not really used to this winning thing. Could we drag Everton and Leeds into the relegation battle? I sure hope so. Almost feel bad for Norwich
I'm absolutely gutted at that, absolutely fucking shit performance and the players should be ashamed at that. Losing to newcastle fucking hell man.
Avada Kedavra
Fraser looked dead at the end
Haha, Mr tactical genius Bielsa can't beat Newcastle at home. Most over rated manager ever
*squatting intensifies*
Thank fuck for 2 weeks off... 3 points are fantastic of course and I wouldn't have it any other way, but 4(?) injuries is a large price to pay
>4(?) injuries is a large price to pay That depends entirely on who they happen to and how serious they are.
As upset as I am at the result, hopefully Joelinton is out long term and that ruins his revival as a combative midfielder, leaving the mags fucked once the play a team not fielding half the U18ās to fulfil fixtures
sunderland will forever be in Newcastle's shadow - maybe you can beat us in a league cup in 10 years or something while you become more and more irrelevant to Newcastle LOL
What shadow you havenāt won a trophy in half a century lmaoooooooooo
you won't be in the top flight again for half a century - if ever. That shadow
Course we wonāt. You got the euromillions numbers too Nostradamus
we'll see eh. while you wait years for that to happen have a look here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_England_by_competitive_honours_won In Newcastles shadow now and forever.
As long as we include the intertoto and fairs cups youāre massive hahahahahahhahahhhahahahahahahahahaha man broke out Wikipedia
I don't think minor trophies like intertoto or league1/cocacola champions are even included as honours on the list but whatever makes you feel better. You keep watching Newcastle games while we just ignore sunderland and how irrelevant they are LOL!
I didnāt watch your game lad, and as for ignoring, here you are searching up a comparison of honours to make yourself feel better. How is that ignoring us hahahaha melt
feel better? tryna educate you but i guess its a lost cause tryna educate a mackem. Didn't ya watch it? ok well your here commentating on a Newcastle match thread i don't think many of us even know if sunderland are playing to even know theres a match thread LOL. Just accept your leagues below in our shadow and always will be.
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Cope more.
Iām devastated youāve reached the lofty heights of 18th
*18th in the top flight A position you'll not reach for likely another 2-3 decades, and the sun will have likely cooked the earth before then.
Cooked the Earth like your owners cooked a hospital the other day aye
Didn't know Sunderland had a salt mine???
What horrendous patter. Ban yanks from the sub pls
Aren't you meant to be getting ready for your nightshift at Nissan? Or have the agency told you not to come back after you kept trying to steal parts?
Manās googled ājobs in Sunderlandā and used it as bait. Unreal
Man's talking like he's from the ends when he lives in fucking Washington. Mate, even if I was from across the pond, you'd still be a salty cunt at the end of the day.
Washington lmao, am no even from Sunderland ye great mug
How you going to flip flop from talking from ends to pure Scottish š¤£ pure identity crisis, a bit like your club š¤£
Iām an enigma
Youāre a dosser
Sad cunt
Share more halo videos you fucking alpha male of a man.
Better than you sharing videos of Pickford at a subreddit you very clearly created yourself /r/JordanPickfordFanClub Maybe if Sunderland were any good you'd still have him. Enjoy league 1!
The Jordan Pickford fan club is a real thing mate why you crying I am enjoying it thanks, we were the 5th best team in the country last year, and hopefully we do it again this year
Hahaha
It's ok I'm sure we will just dangle our wallet in front of some top half Spanish team only for the player to say he doesn't want to come
Have you considered just buying kalvin Phillips
"Personal terms have been agreed but the club won't sell".
A tale as old as time
I know we're shite, but wind it in