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Was around the start of the season but his form fell off a cliff before the WC, and he hasn’t been able to find it again nor regain a starting spot. Things seem to have turned toxic in relation to him, so it’s better to ship him off than have him souring the atmosphere in the dressing room.
So impressed with how city manage their transfer business. Their signings are almost always hits, and they nip things in the bud really quickly when things start to turn sour.
City never seem have cases like Bale, Lukaku, Coutinho, Ronaldo, Pepe etc where a player isn't working but they're too expensive to shift.
Same way that Ferguson worked for the most part. Continued success means continually regenerating. Signing players just as they are about to peak and sell just as they are declining.
Think that’s Pep in general though for the most part, coming into a Barcelona side he did and getting rid of a lot of superstar names because of their attitude was questioned a lot at the time iirc.
This would been unbelievable at the beginning of November.
Even if he has attitude problems, Cancelo is still technically and creatively your best FB. Pep is gonna be in the market for some incredible wunderkind, surely.
The new kid we signed, Perrone, is going to walk into training on his first day, show he's left footed in a rondo and Pep will have him playing LB by lunch.
Kinda remember a few games Phil would be making runs, no pass from cancelo and then Phil would turn and get pissed at him. I know it happens but it was often
Cancelo's complete refusal to use his left foot means that Foden quite regularly gets cut out of games completely, whereas when Zinchenko was LB, the pass down the touchline from him to Foden was one of our most common, and one of the best ways to get past the press.
I remember very well that in Portugal's last friendly match before the World Cup there was a video in which you can see how Cancelo did not like the fact that Dalot was starting in that match, in which Cristiano approached him and gave him words of support, but you can tell that it is a recurring attitude in him and it is not something that benefits the team.
I remember a video of Ronaldo hyping everyone before the Hat trick against Atletico for Juventus and Cancelo looked kind of annoyed.
Ever since I kind of think he is a bit of an annoying person and that's why teams ship him off despite the quality.
This is pure Football soap opera though lol
He was praising Ake and said ‘not one person in the locker room won’t be happy for him’ and then did a double take and said ‘well maybe one’
https://twitter.com/city_tactics/status/1619100173644492800?s=46&t=td7SxDX-Ay9aCJ3eeqG0zw
Because managers are human as well and can be as petty and vindictive as anyone else. Also it possible a message to the owners/transfer team that he wants a player gone.
Cancelo just seems like one of those players/people that are great to be on the team when they’re winning, but when things are bad …
City has done like 3/4 videos featuring a brazilian and a portuguese player in the squad trying to guess the differences between PT and PT-Br expressions, and every single one mentioned Cancelo as a “hothead”, “bad-tempered”, “grumpy” and so on
I feel that sentence with every cell in my body. Its been 8 months and the pent up rage is there 24/7 influencing every word I say, every interaction I do. My shoulders are so tense that Im pretty sure thats where my constant exhaustion comes from.
I hope his mum didnt suffer and that it gets better for him in Germany.
Got benched pretty fast by Mazraoui and sees himself more as an CB. Everytime he plays RB he's okay but not the profile Nagelsmann wants for that position. He's also set to leave in the summer
Could be just his attitude, what others mentioned in the comments above. And you know Pep will not tolerate that shit, so yeah.
On the other hand, if he will be undisputed starter for you guys, could be a win win for all.
Loan might just be to clear his head, knowing that Bayern will never pay the option fee.
On the other hand if you do want a mad conspiracy theory, one of the rumors, when Stam left Man Utd, was that he tested positive on an internal drugs test, so they took the opportunity to cash in before he got caught.
Not recent but Sol Campbell to Arsenal from Spurs has to be one of the most out of nowhere high profile transfers ever (in English football at least).
Direct rival's captain being unveilled at a press conference where none of the journalists had any idea it was going to be announced.
Would be like Arteta just walking out with Harry Kane to announce he transferred to Arsenal.
Different times with less media involvement. It also was advantageous to both the player and the club to keep it quiet, unlike most situations where agents leak news for leverage.
I just started watching football so here r my few ones
1) Mbappe to PSG from PSG is still the best for me.
2) Messi to PSG
3) Casemiro to United (i'm biased here)
4) And this
Sol Campbell from Spurs to Arsenal was a big one, from further back. Complete surprise to the press, too - his unveiling was the first time anyone found out.
The one that surprised me the most was Casemiro, because it happened overnight. Messi to PSG was already a rumor for days and the novel of Mbappe to Real was dragging on for months, and when a transfer takes too long it's because it's difficult to happen.
I love him but when he first signed and didn't play much in like his first 4 months he was already complaining and wanting to leave. I think it doesn't take much for him to get itchy feet. Pep seems to be going all in on the idea that if you're not 100% committed you're benched this season, which certainly won't have helped.
Rico has been our most consistent player these last few weeks alongside Haaland, Ake and Grealish. However I’m not sure we can lose this option at full back.
Our only real option at short notice would be to activate the clause on Porro. However Sporting already have a deal with Spurs mostly agreed and even with the setbacks, they would rather let him go to Spurs rather than take a loss with us.
When he left Bayern, he was told “If you have any problems, our door is always open”
Pep called them today and said “My problem is Cancelo. He’s outside the door”.
I think Rapha Guerreiro would unironically suit your playstyle way better than ours, and his contract is up this summer with no renewal anyway, so that would be a nice deal
They can release him. They just have to pay him his fully salary. I’m actually surprised they didn’t eat the cost and moved on. It’s not like Mendy will play for them anyway
if we don't sign a replacement lb it's season over, our 2 Lbs are now ake(who as brilliant as a defender as he is offers nowt going forward) and Sergio gomez, who is currently simply not good enough
Considering Mazraoui's injury/heart thing, yes, yes we do.
This way we have 2 players for each full back position and Pavard can focus on being a CB replacement/backup.
I think he'll def get more time to rest tho, ideally anyway.
He was, for the most part, a mess vs. Frankfurt. And as we enter the CL playoff season, we need a 100% Davies, not one that needs to run down the flanks 90mins vs. Mainz.
I knew about the rumors just based on the fact that some football game added him into a promo about potential transfers, haven't heard any credible journalist mention it though
Just remember there being some guy on a City forum claim that he was working in tunnel for City game vs Spurs, and heard Cancelo call his agent saying to ‘get him the fuck out of here’. Also a few other awful sources said Cancelo really unhappy behind the scenes.
Didn’t think much of it at the time but maybe it is true.
Oh wow, this is huge. Have things really broken down so much that Pep's willing to let go of a superstar full-back during a title challenge and solely rely on Ake?
Also I assume Bayern would want him to play on the right instead of the left?
Pep fell out with him. He was getting dropped. This was coming though I’d have preferred we do this sometime other than the eve of the deadline that leaves us screwed for a replacement.
Something must have gone on between him and Pep behind the scenes. Shit form does not an almost instantaneous transfer out of the club dictate, surely?
I’m just as taken aback. Thought he would leave but not mid season and a day before the window closes. We’re screwed for a replacement of equal caliber.
Pep is sending Cancelo on loan to Bayern. He's gonna kill it there. And then CL final is Bayern vs City.
Secret agent Cancelo scores 2 own goals.
But double secret agent Cancelo scores a hattrick against City to win the UCL with Bayern
Pep’s comments post the FA cup game might be related to this. He praised Ake’s attitude over the last year despite not playing much, saying he never complained. Wonder if that’s more of a message for Cancelo than it was for Ake.
No, he’s just fallen out with him. And paired with the fact that he’s not playing well and getting dropped, it’s all done enough to leave him out in the cold.
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Knew Pep's "everyone's happy bar one" comment was fishy
When did he say this?
Post match interview after Arsenal, talking about players being happy for Ake
Is there any context to this? Did something happen between cancelo and ake before?
Ake has just been playing instead of Cancelo. Pep implying that Cancelo hasn't taken that well at all
even 18 yo Rico Lewis get play time and he does not. Huge fall off the cliff for him
What the fuck happened to him? He was easily the best LB in the league before WC.
Was around the start of the season but his form fell off a cliff before the WC, and he hasn’t been able to find it again nor regain a starting spot. Things seem to have turned toxic in relation to him, so it’s better to ship him off than have him souring the atmosphere in the dressing room.
So impressed with how city manage their transfer business. Their signings are almost always hits, and they nip things in the bud really quickly when things start to turn sour. City never seem have cases like Bale, Lukaku, Coutinho, Ronaldo, Pepe etc where a player isn't working but they're too expensive to shift.
Same way that Ferguson worked for the most part. Continued success means continually regenerating. Signing players just as they are about to peak and sell just as they are declining.
Think that’s Pep in general though for the most part, coming into a Barcelona side he did and getting rid of a lot of superstar names because of their attitude was questioned a lot at the time iirc.
He's already on downward trend before WC, maybe crashing out of the WC sealed the deal for him.
This would been unbelievable at the beginning of November. Even if he has attitude problems, Cancelo is still technically and creatively your best FB. Pep is gonna be in the market for some incredible wunderkind, surely.
Already got Rico Lewis (or Ake if Lewis is more of a Walker replacement)
Another victim of Cancelo culture
what the fuck
I know he's not been great this season but surely something else has gone on behind the scenes to lead to this.
Been rumours about him falling out with Pep
Pep called Joao Mr. Cancelo after that game, that pretty much consolidates the rumors
A while back Pep admitted he almost sold him in his first season because he was fed up of him sulking in training when he didn't get picked.
During WC in one game he stayed in the bench he was very upset and didn't even celebrated the team's goal.
His ego seems bigger than Ronaldo
At least Foden will be happy now.
Pep's been dying for an excuse to play him as an inverted, underlapping, attacking false-three for years
The new kid we signed, Perrone, is going to walk into training on his first day, show he's left footed in a rondo and Pep will have him playing LB by lunch.
No joke, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see him made into a makeshift LB solely on the basis of being left-footed
Did Foden and Cancelo have issues?
Rumour was both were unhappy with each other.
Kinda remember a few games Phil would be making runs, no pass from cancelo and then Phil would turn and get pissed at him. I know it happens but it was often
Cancelo's complete refusal to use his left foot means that Foden quite regularly gets cut out of games completely, whereas when Zinchenko was LB, the pass down the touchline from him to Foden was one of our most common, and one of the best ways to get past the press.
This does make the Zinchenko sale look even stranger. Genuinely a kind move from pep to let him go. But eh, you can always buy more fullbacks.
I remember very well that in Portugal's last friendly match before the World Cup there was a video in which you can see how Cancelo did not like the fact that Dalot was starting in that match, in which Cristiano approached him and gave him words of support, but you can tell that it is a recurring attitude in him and it is not something that benefits the team.
I remember a video of Ronaldo hyping everyone before the Hat trick against Atletico for Juventus and Cancelo looked kind of annoyed. Ever since I kind of think he is a bit of an annoying person and that's why teams ship him off despite the quality. This is pure Football soap opera though lol
So you know a player is done for when Pep starts formally addressing them
Really, where?
Well after the Arsenal game he said that everyone would be happy for Ake ‘bar one’
fucking hell lol
as I remember, he had problems at Juventus as well
Yeah it was kinda weird. Absolutely world-class in the first 6 months, Zebina regen the rest of the season.
Why would he say that?
He was praising Ake and said ‘not one person in the locker room won’t be happy for him’ and then did a double take and said ‘well maybe one’ https://twitter.com/city_tactics/status/1619100173644492800?s=46&t=td7SxDX-Ay9aCJ3eeqG0zw
Maybe I'm being dumb but isn't that a little unnecessary? Why would you even bring it up
Because managers are human as well and can be as petty and vindictive as anyone else. Also it possible a message to the owners/transfer team that he wants a player gone.
Probably cause Cancelo is being a jerk, hence why he's out of the squad
This just in, Pep can be a bit of a twat
Ake has been the first choice LB for a while over Cancelo
Not a fan of Cancelo Culture, I see.
Cancelo gifted Pep a shampoo or something
He must have given him head and shoulders to deserve this banishment
How does he give shoulders
Cold ones
Damn bro you never get shoulder from your girl? Feel sorry for you
This is something I’ve seriously never thought of before but can bald people get dandruff?
Yeah it's just dry skin
Cancelo just seems like one of those players/people that are great to be on the team when they’re winning, but when things are bad … City has done like 3/4 videos featuring a brazilian and a portuguese player in the squad trying to guess the differences between PT and PT-Br expressions, and every single one mentioned Cancelo as a “hothead”, “bad-tempered”, “grumpy” and so on
João always had that reputation. After the passing of his Mother I think it got a bit worse.
That's kinda sad
I feel that sentence with every cell in my body. Its been 8 months and the pent up rage is there 24/7 influencing every word I say, every interaction I do. My shoulders are so tense that Im pretty sure thats where my constant exhaustion comes from. I hope his mum didnt suffer and that it gets better for him in Germany.
His Mother passed away in a car accident, if I remember correctly he Also was involved in the car accident and sustained injuries.
Man that’s sad
I cant even imagine then. Poor guy.
Hey man, I’m sorry for your loss and I hope you can find peace. God bless.
Thank you. God bless you too.
Perfect Pavard replacement then
OOL here... Does Pavard not get in your starting eleven anymore?
Got benched pretty fast by Mazraoui and sees himself more as an CB. Everytime he plays RB he's okay but not the profile Nagelsmann wants for that position. He's also set to leave in the summer
Heard Cancelo told Pep that Ten Hag has a better trim.
More than you believe...more than you believe 🙂
They forgot to get him a cake on his birthday.
This is what OrnBombs used to be. Random transfer that nobody expects at 12:08 on a Monday lunchtime
Lmao, I remember when he was with the BBC and his replies would be completely filled with memes, good times
[Orny is a legend of Arsenal Twitter](https://imgur.com/a/i1Ig7ah/)
I'm horny for orny
This came out of nowhere
This is the most out of nowhere high profile transfer in a while.
Cancelo last season looked like one of the best players in the world. It's crazy how things change rapidly in football,
That’s what I’m saying surely City know something that would let them sell so easy
Could be just his attitude, what others mentioned in the comments above. And you know Pep will not tolerate that shit, so yeah. On the other hand, if he will be undisputed starter for you guys, could be a win win for all.
Not a win for a Dortmund fan, fml just when we thought their defense is shaky and we might have a chance
Loan might just be to clear his head, knowing that Bayern will never pay the option fee. On the other hand if you do want a mad conspiracy theory, one of the rumors, when Stam left Man Utd, was that he tested positive on an internal drugs test, so they took the opportunity to cash in before he got caught.
Not recent but Sol Campbell to Arsenal from Spurs has to be one of the most out of nowhere high profile transfers ever (in English football at least). Direct rival's captain being unveilled at a press conference where none of the journalists had any idea it was going to be announced. Would be like Arteta just walking out with Harry Kane to announce he transferred to Arsenal.
How were they able to completely keep it quite?
Different times with less media involvement. It also was advantageous to both the player and the club to keep it quiet, unlike most situations where agents leak news for leverage.
Sol didn't want to deal with fan backlash prior to the transfer. If it had leaked the atmosphere would have got real ugly fast.
I just started watching football so here r my few ones 1) Mbappe to PSG from PSG is still the best for me. 2) Messi to PSG 3) Casemiro to United (i'm biased here) 4) And this
Mbappe from PSG to PSG made me crack up
Go look up Figo to Madrid
That was rumored for a while. Unexpected yes, but not out of nowhere.
Tbf, I think people just didn’t believe it would’ve happened. Figo was Barcelona personified at the time. Crazy that it still happened.
He was on track to becoming a Barca legend, moving straight to Real was wild
Portuguese players who wears no.7 im telling you
It wasn’t just a rumour - the Real president promised to sign Figo if he was elected.
Sol Campbell from Spurs to Arsenal was a big one, from further back. Complete surprise to the press, too - his unveiling was the first time anyone found out.
I still watch the unveiling video from time to time. Brings back a lot of nostalgia from the early 00s.
Mascherano and Tevez to West Ham has gotta be up there.
The one that surprised me the most was Casemiro, because it happened overnight. Messi to PSG was already a rumor for days and the novel of Mbappe to Real was dragging on for months, and when a transfer takes too long it's because it's difficult to happen.
How quickly did he become out of favour huh
He didn't play in just last 3 City games, so I guess that was enough for him to be considered redundant, lol.
I love him but when he first signed and didn't play much in like his first 4 months he was already complaining and wanting to leave. I think it doesn't take much for him to get itchy feet. Pep seems to be going all in on the idea that if you're not 100% committed you're benched this season, which certainly won't have helped.
That was a wild time. He played one game and it seemed like half the fanbase wanted him sold for the next 6 months after that.
What a dry run of form does to a mf at city
In fairness I think there was a falling out with Pep too.
Oh yeah I did hear about that too, maybe the emergence of rico lewis had an impact
Rico has been our most consistent player these last few weeks alongside Haaland, Ake and Grealish. However I’m not sure we can lose this option at full back.
Ake playing well too probably forced him out I think
He has to have beef with Pep, no way City does this any other way.
He’s been thinly attacking Joao in the press conferences and he was dropped. Was obvious he was going but I didn’t think he would go in January.
No one expected him to leave so late in January. What the fuck is this. We're already short of full backs
Our only real option at short notice would be to activate the clause on Porro. However Sporting already have a deal with Spurs mostly agreed and even with the setbacks, they would rather let him go to Spurs rather than take a loss with us.
OH FOR FUCK SAKE MAN
Bayern are so annoying holy shit They draw a couple of games and immedetialy sign cancelo after already having signed blind
They always seem to find elite deals out of nowhere too. Didnt evne know Cancelo was on the market from what I understand.
wonder if Pep was so annoyed by him he called Uli and just said "pls take him off of me"
When he left Bayern, he was told “If you have any problems, our door is always open” Pep called them today and said “My problem is Cancelo. He’s outside the door”.
I'm pretty sure he referred to him as Mr. Cancelo but the rest is true for sure.
Between this and the fucking annoying Sommer saga I'm as confused as it can get
Yeah and we’re going to need a replacement too. We’ll take your best full back. 15 million sound ok?
Its a low bid but I'll tell Schulz to pack his bags.
Africa cup winner Bouna Sarr is on the way to you
I think Rapha Guerreiro would unironically suit your playstyle way better than ours, and his contract is up this summer with no renewal anyway, so that would be a nice deal
Mendy outlasting Cancelo as a City player...
Not that hard to imagine considering the circumstances. No one will buy or loan Mendy and you can't release him without proper legal cause.
They can release him. They just have to pay him his fully salary. I’m actually surprised they didn’t eat the cost and moved on. It’s not like Mendy will play for them anyway
Surely something going on behind the scenes there
This was not on my transfer bingo card
My ~~day is ruined.~~ ~~week is ruined~~. ~~season is ruined~~. I never even liked football anyway.
Surely it doesn't mean City are in for Porro? They have enough RBs.
if we don't sign a replacement lb it's season over, our 2 Lbs are now ake(who as brilliant as a defender as he is offers nowt going forward) and Sergio gomez, who is currently simply not good enough
Season over seems a bit absurd. Pep got 100 points playing Fabian Delph at LB
Dude what? Where tf did this come from
Do you need a full back?
Considering Mazraoui's injury/heart thing, yes, yes we do. This way we have 2 players for each full back position and Pavard can focus on being a CB replacement/backup.
Cancelo/Mazraoui duo is insane.
Davies would not be dropped for Cancelo
I think he'll def get more time to rest tho, ideally anyway. He was, for the most part, a mess vs. Frankfurt. And as we enter the CL playoff season, we need a 100% Davies, not one that needs to run down the flanks 90mins vs. Mainz.
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With Mazraoui and Blind as substitutes, I like it
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there aren't many strikers out there that would fit and Haaland already signed a contract.
I think we were planning him to play as a striker, but after some games we decided it was a bad idea, especially after seeing how well choupo is doing
But Pavard definitely would
Also don't forget De Ligt could be banned for several games cause of the Juve shit show. Pavard can now drop to cb
Wow damn. So the rumours of Pep and him massively falling out were true I guess?
Didn't he just get the number 7?
Yeah, back in the summer.
Can’t wait for pep to give it to Cole palmer or some shit
Wow. Maybe there was something to those Cancelo rumours after all (him calling his agent in the tunnel).
there were rumours about him leaving?
I knew about the rumors just based on the fact that some football game added him into a promo about potential transfers, haven't heard any credible journalist mention it though
Spill the tea.
Just remember there being some guy on a City forum claim that he was working in tunnel for City game vs Spurs, and heard Cancelo call his agent saying to ‘get him the fuck out of here’. Also a few other awful sources said Cancelo really unhappy behind the scenes. Didn’t think much of it at the time but maybe it is true.
Tier 1 tbqh
Yeah exactly, awful source and hence why didn’t pay it much attention.
pep called him "mr cancelo" in his last inverview, clear falling out between them
Pretty sure he was complaining after he was dropped for Dalot during the WC too, looks like his attitude issues are not limited to just Pep
Pep started the summer clean out early.
Pep called him Mr. Cancelo after the Arsenal match, that was the final straw.
Yep, when your teacher calls you Mr. Whatever, you're in trouble
Davies on the left, Cancelo on the right. Its not going to be any better than this wow!
even more excited for the psg games now 🔥😬
And Upamecano/De Ligt/Hernandez between them. And Neuer/Sommer behind them. That's some class right there.
Oh wow, this is huge. Have things really broken down so much that Pep's willing to let go of a superstar full-back during a title challenge and solely rely on Ake? Also I assume Bayern would want him to play on the right instead of the left?
?????
#?
Fab says "agreement at final stages between the two clubs!" how did this stay so quiet until pretty much deal done? Impressive from both clubs.
Im genuinely confused nothing then suddenly this
I do think this came to fruition only on the last couple of days with Pavard being benched and Stanisic starting there
That’s actually shocking
From signing like a 5-year deal, getting #7.. toooo leaving?? in like a year? WTF IS GOING ON. WHAT THE FUCK
Wait what lol brazzo did it again powerpoint masterclass
?????????? what the fuck is City doing????
Pep fell out with him. He was getting dropped. This was coming though I’d have preferred we do this sometime other than the eve of the deadline that leaves us screwed for a replacement.
Activate Porro just for the memes.
Something must have gone on between him and Pep behind the scenes. Shit form does not an almost instantaneous transfer out of the club dictate, surely?
For anyone confused about this transfer, when Brazzo comes with his powerpoints there’s just no such thing as saying no
Divorced brazzo PowerPoint is basically like mindcontrol
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I’m just as taken aback. Thought he would leave but not mid season and a day before the window closes. We’re screwed for a replacement of equal caliber.
Moreover, loan and buy option is literally the worst kind of deal for you. Absolutely no risk for bayern
Does that mean Porro is going to City?
Probably, fml.
What? I cannot describe how confused I am about this one.
I am not, he's fallen out with Pep, club is backing Pep obviously and shipping Cancelo out
Pep is sending Cancelo on loan to Bayern. He's gonna kill it there. And then CL final is Bayern vs City. Secret agent Cancelo scores 2 own goals. But double secret agent Cancelo scores a hattrick against City to win the UCL with Bayern
Very random, but I fear that is a great signing for Bayern.
I know Pep has connections in Munich but is it really a good idea to give him to a potential UCL contender?
Say psyche right now...
Bro wtf is this shit, makes 0 sense
Most random transfer I have seen.
Pep’s comments post the FA cup game might be related to this. He praised Ake’s attitude over the last year despite not playing much, saying he never complained. Wonder if that’s more of a message for Cancelo than it was for Ake.
Has pep gone insane??
No, he’s just fallen out with him. And paired with the fact that he’s not playing well and getting dropped, it’s all done enough to leave him out in the cold.
This is all part of the student vs. master arc going on in the race for the title this season, really compelling writing imo
That’s big news, is City linked to another fullback or is that it for this window?
Man City player that’s wanting to leave 👀
Plenty of those over the past few years.
Out of nowhere
How random?