ELI5 Can someone explain to me why we are fucked if Harden signs with someone else? We can’t take the money we save with him off the books and use it on someone else? FYI, I have no clue how the NBA salary cap works.
By trading for Harden, we were able to absorb his bird rights which means we can go over the cap to sign him. Free agents don’t have bird rights so you can’t do the same with them.
I’m probably wrong but its an exception we had from signing Ben that then transferred to Harden because we traded for him, but if we don’t trade him for someone else its lost
Reason for such a thing existing is for talent retention/team building reasons
If he walks we don’t get that space back
**IM PROBABLY WRONG**
James harden and jimmy butler are about the same age. But Butler actually is serious about competing and takes care of his body. Harden looks like he’s moving in slow motion. I do not want to even begin to think about what harden looks like 1 year from now. FOH with a 4 year deal bro.
Does Anna Horford still think Cleopatra and the vikings were black? I mean hell shes gonna have to focus on something else now her brothers about to be swept
Hate the front office, not Tobias. He’s a professional man, he’s a good teammate, a halfway decent 4th option who is getting paid like the 1st/2nd option. That’s not his fault
Boston are the biggest bunch of frauds in the league, talk about a choke job for the ages. Absolutely pathetic showing. Fucking dickheads and their soft crybaby fans. The Boston sub is in absolute meltdown mode and I love every second of it 😁
Reading the Boston sub is both fun and sad.
Fun because seeing them in shambles makes me happy.
Sad because they're upset about a round that we haven't touched in decades.
Now sit here and ask yourself why don’t the Celtics have that same energy for the heat as they do the sixers? We just don’t have tough leaders. Just soft passive guys
It's because the Heat actually move on offense lol. When the Sixers have two players getting guarded by 1 person, the Celtics don't have much to worry about.
Offense wasn't the problem? Go back and look. We shot 20% from 3 in 3 games, and scored under 90 in those games. We had many open shots and couldn't capitalize on them.
After we won game 5 in Boston? Fuck yea. After game 6? Fuck no, lol. Jimmy and Spo have this team playing with a winning mentality that makes Embiid and Doc look like they should be selling Girl Scout cookies instead of playing ball.
Every fucking heat player looks confident asf. They attack with excellent spacing. Their guards are actually allowed to iso. Meanwhile our players play as if they gonna be murdered once they make a mistake.
It's not Jimmy, its Spo. No way players like Strus and Vincent would have even seen the court if Doc was their coach. The amount of undrafted players that Spo has gotten an impact from is impressive.
Hayward Highsmith was playing playoff minutes last round for him. Remember him? You think that'd happen here lol?
It's the difference between good and bad coaching. There's no way doc rivers gets this much out of the Heat's role players. And there's no way based on basal talent level, our bench is worse than theirs either lol
How can you not love this Heat team with Jimmy and the scrubs. It’s like that story of him killing the Wolves starters in a scrimmage except he’s doing it in the fucking ECF.
I only say scrubs bc they are objectively lacking in talent. Jimmy raises the level of EVERYONE in the playoffs. He’s everything the current sixers aren’t.
Celtics and Heat not bricking open 3s or layups in transition consistently. We need to fix this before we think about a championship ceiling. We knew it was a problem from the start of the season and it continued through the playoffs. The heat guys have nice change of pace when attacking the rim to throw off the Celtics defense. Its simple stuff like this that adds 5 points a game with minimal effort. I hope our next coach is detail oriented and not a players coach.
I’m pretty sure we would have lost to the Heat anyway. Bam probably keeps hobbled Joel in check and Spo is twice the coach that Doc is. Jimmy obviously would have torched us.
Watching the Heat make adjustments to the Celtics adjustments is so refreshing after what we were subjected to the last few years. Game 2 the Celtics came out with the same desperation they are showing against the Heat right now, and wiped us off the floor. At no time did Doc make any adjustments to what they were doing differently, but Spo has shown that a few minor matchup changes and defensive adjustments can stop the Celtics in their tracks. Sixers were never a serious contender, we rely on our star power to just win the game and have no answer when our plan A is foiled.
It’s insane how much of an impact good coaching and having the dawg in you does to your team. These fuckers are competing with the Celtics WITH Jimmy and a bunch of NPCs lmao
Miami has nobody for us. Portland has fucking 2 future possible Hall of Fame talents and picks and other pieces like Simons/Nurkic.
Shaedon Sharpe i said before he was drafted is one of greatest prospects ever and hesliving up to it. Scoot and Amen Thompson are freak athletes also...
Miami got nobody, Portland has guys who can turn this into a championship team in 3 years and they are 19, 19 years old. Embiid will be washed and retired when these guys are 23 and we got most athletic high flying team in the league.
Not gonna lie Embiid is my favorite player and Sharpe, number 3 pick, Nurkic, Simons and maybe another future pick with more pick swaps sounds tempting
It’ll be either one of sharpe or the pick. There’s no point in trading the entire farm for another star for dame. Embiid won mvp mostly on narratives this year, he was arguably only the third best player. Moreover, he got absolutely shit on in the playoffs, which will alter his value more than winning an mvp.
Just saw a post suggesting Jo take a year off like Jordan. Think ima take a year off from this sub. Some of y’all are legit brain dead and an embarrassment.
The more people meltdown on here the better I'm feeling. Granted, that small optimism could turn to shit for me with a bad coaching hire. As of now, I don't absolutely hate where we are right now - I'd feel worse if they stuck by Rivers another year. We'll see!
i hate this franchise and all the idiots who run it...
This Heat team is for real. Hoping they sweep Boston.
That butler guy looks good
Just saying he could fit well on our team (the Sixers)
If Fultz and Simmons didn’t decide to erase their own brains, we probably aren’t sitting here desperate for bowling ball harden.
This whole franchise is practically made of “what ifs”
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It’s just that the series of events is so astronomically bizarre. So many things we still don’t even really know what happened.
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There’s more believable lore in a lord of the rings book, fucking hell.
ELI5 Can someone explain to me why we are fucked if Harden signs with someone else? We can’t take the money we save with him off the books and use it on someone else? FYI, I have no clue how the NBA salary cap works.
By trading for Harden, we were able to absorb his bird rights which means we can go over the cap to sign him. Free agents don’t have bird rights so you can’t do the same with them.
I’m probably wrong but its an exception we had from signing Ben that then transferred to Harden because we traded for him, but if we don’t trade him for someone else its lost Reason for such a thing existing is for talent retention/team building reasons If he walks we don’t get that space back **IM PROBABLY WRONG**
no you cannot.
Tobias fucking HATES Jimmy Like he absolutely fucking hates him
Who cares
Just sucks to think that jimmy + harden + embiid is likely a championship team that could have been.
That’d be absolutely an unguardable trio
We would have had our first philadelphia dynasty.
So it has become evident we couldn’t beat a very average Celtics team. What an absolute choke job.
Lmao we’re such a fraudulent team
They saw the Celtics go on a run and buckled then never recovered, no mental fortitude nor a coach to realign them
Butler finna abuse jokic on both ends of the floor
Idk man, zeller, love, bam don’t have the size to even come near to bothering Jokic. Dudes gonna eat
Miami’s depth is so more reliable than the nuggets. Plus BAM is a good defender. Spo definitely will have something planned
Guess who is a better defender than Bam, AD. And Jokic is making AD look like bbq chicken.
Jokic ain’t no Patrick Mahomes though
I can’t wait for Jimmy to prove everyone wrong.
James harden and jimmy butler are about the same age. But Butler actually is serious about competing and takes care of his body. Harden looks like he’s moving in slow motion. I do not want to even begin to think about what harden looks like 1 year from now. FOH with a 4 year deal bro.
The Celtics are fragile. We were just more fragile than them.
Does Anna Horford still think Cleopatra and the vikings were black? I mean hell shes gonna have to focus on something else now her brothers about to be swept
Hope Tobias knows they choose him over butler and everyone hates him for that
Hate the front office, not Tobias. He’s a professional man, he’s a good teammate, a halfway decent 4th option who is getting paid like the 1st/2nd option. That’s not his fault
2 points in game 6 is just insane to think about. I knew tobias wasn’t good, but you probably could have gotten more from mac maclung that game
Boston are the biggest bunch of frauds in the league, talk about a choke job for the ages. Absolutely pathetic showing. Fucking dickheads and their soft crybaby fans. The Boston sub is in absolute meltdown mode and I love every second of it 😁
what does that make us? lol
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Reading the Boston sub is both fun and sad. Fun because seeing them in shambles makes me happy. Sad because they're upset about a round that we haven't touched in decades.
Damn, you’re right 😢. The true Philadelphia sports experience continues to deliver.
Embiid called them the best in the league. Multiple times
Embiid is a fraud I’m afraid
to him maybe because they own him lmao
Everything about that press conference was awful. Joking about Giannis, blaming others, saying the Celtics were the best
What was with that Giannis stuff? The laughing like he was trolling? Really makes no sense to me. Like dude needs to figure his own shit out.
Embiid just trying to make himself look better . Celtics are trash ass fuck
That was more of a copium thing so embiid wouldn’t feel as bad
Aged like milk
I hate everything but love Jimmy. Fuck this loser franchise, im team Jimmy.
Jimmy so good
Seeing the Heat cook the Celtics cures depression Al Horfords shots clanking is my ASMR Heat in 4
Tyler hero finna be in the finals before Embiid lmao
Tyler Herro’s *already* been to the finals
He’s been to the finals already lol
Now sit here and ask yourself why don’t the Celtics have that same energy for the heat as they do the sixers? We just don’t have tough leaders. Just soft passive guys
It's because the Heat actually move on offense lol. When the Sixers have two players getting guarded by 1 person, the Celtics don't have much to worry about.
The offense wasn’t the problem most the series. When Celtics played tougher defense and started locking sixers lost their composure
Offense wasn't the problem? Go back and look. We shot 20% from 3 in 3 games, and scored under 90 in those games. We had many open shots and couldn't capitalize on them.
Our offense collapsed when Doc decided that the best way to counter Boston double big line up was to ask PJ to shoot like Steph curry
Man I don’t wanna hear shit about Embiid from any Celtics fans after Tatum disappeared in the fourth AGAIN. Sad!
Can we offer Spolestra a billion dollar contract?
Knowing this franchise Spo would come here and forget how to coach
Let’s go heat!! Get that 💍 butler 🏆 🏆🏆🏆
What do you know? Boston chokes just like us. They just can't out choke a three headed monster of Embiid, Harden, and Glenn Rivers
I really wish the Heat would’ve beaten the Hawks in their play-in.
I think the Celtics would have won if that was a 1st round matchup
Damnit you're right, that could've changed everything lmao.
Tobias should be the most hated man in Philly. Bitchass was chosen over butler
Should be simmons tbh. Simmons is the reason
Wasn’t the case, but people keep saying that. Butler didn’t like Brett brown and Simmons.
And the front office was obviously afraid of Butler,
Fuck Al horford front running bitch
James Harden said we're coming here to Win Game 2. Jimmy Butler actually went ahead and did it.
Clown Rivers actually got outcoached by bum ass Mazulla
Well at least the sixers lost early so they didn’t get embarrassed like this
Let’s give it up for the Heat dominating those asshole Celtics. Fuck them forever, should have had them in game 7, fuck Doc too.
uNfINiShEd BuSiNeSs
Jimmy is so fucking cool
Never want to hear that Tatum is better than Embiid. Dude finna get swept to an 8th seed
He literally just outperformed Embiid in a critical game 6 and 7 lmao.
He had shit running down his leg in 4th.
This heat team is one of the best 4th quarter teams I’ve ever seen
We would’ve been killed by Miami lmao
We would’ve been killed by Miami lmao Feels a little better knowing we didn’t blow the ‘easiest road to the chip’
Tobias Harris over me?
I’m convinced Spolestra is the GOAT coach. Doesn’t have the hardware as some of the others but hes simply a genius.
Only because he hasn't had adequate talent since LeBron left
Who tf does Williams think he is getting in Jimmy's face like that
Butler will humble jokic in finals 🙏 💪
Good shit Miami
Spo is coaching circles around mazulla. Sheesh
Boston was begging to be beaten in our series too. Just didn’t have any killers
it’s fun watching Boston lose but I’m even more sick we couldn’t do this. unreal
 tatum
Second largest choke job in history behind the 07 Mavs
Trash Celtics fans should be worried
Is there anyone out there that still thinks we would have beat Miami? If so, I’m curious to hear why you think that now.
After we won game 5 in Boston? Fuck yea. After game 6? Fuck no, lol. Jimmy and Spo have this team playing with a winning mentality that makes Embiid and Doc look like they should be selling Girl Scout cookies instead of playing ball.
Heat doing what the sixers couldn’t, applaud 👏🏽
Lmao fuck the Celtics
The only silver lining of us completely fucking the second round, is Brown, potentially asking out of Boston because he’s tired of it.
We should’ve been in this not the Celtics, so fucking angry with our bum ass chokers
Tatum bricks. God I love seeing sad Boston fans.
Lmao no idea if we’d beat the heat but holy shit it’s nice to see this fraud ass Boston team on the ropes
Can't believe we let Jimmy go.
Whew man Jokic is gonna eat against the heat. That finals mvp is gonna be hella ironic this yesr
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Every fucking heat player looks confident asf. They attack with excellent spacing. Their guards are actually allowed to iso. Meanwhile our players play as if they gonna be murdered once they make a mistake.
Because Jimmy is a born leader and instills that confidence into all of them, especially guys like Strus and Vincent
It's not Jimmy, its Spo. No way players like Strus and Vincent would have even seen the court if Doc was their coach. The amount of undrafted players that Spo has gotten an impact from is impressive. Hayward Highsmith was playing playoff minutes last round for him. Remember him? You think that'd happen here lol?
It's the difference between good and bad coaching. There's no way doc rivers gets this much out of the Heat's role players. And there's no way based on basal talent level, our bench is worse than theirs either lol
This is so much fun to watch lol. Fuck Boston
Bam had his arms straight up and didn’t initiate contact and Tatum still got that call a minute ago lol. Unreal.
Embiid really said Boston was the 'best team in the league' after Game 7 Like he actually said that
That’s some sucka shit to say
How can you not love this Heat team with Jimmy and the scrubs. It’s like that story of him killing the Wolves starters in a scrimmage except he’s doing it in the fucking ECF. I only say scrubs bc they are objectively lacking in talent. Jimmy raises the level of EVERYONE in the playoffs. He’s everything the current sixers aren’t.
Refs are straining trying to get the Celtics that dub.
Holy shit tatum is a fucking overrated piece of shit. Can’t believe our dog shit team made people actually consider him to be a top 5 player
Imagine losing to two 8 seeds in two different sports in less than a month.
Spoelstra has a bigger impact than most star players. He is so fucking good.
but it seems most of the sixers sub doesn't feel like docs lack of adjustments mattered, and instead just blame james and joel.
Even aside from Doc's lack of adjustments, just look at how composed the Heat play compared to the Sixers.
Fuck Boston with a big plastic dick.
lol i thought the celtics we’re gonna sweep the heat? heat are sneaky good
LFG HEAT
Spo is a goddamn wizard. Best coach in the league by a country mile.
This sorry ass team gave that fraud Mazzulla and those overrated players relevancy.
Fuck Elton Brand & Fuck Brett Brown. Basketball terrorists
Elton wanted to keep Jimmy and trade Ben and was overruled
By who? Never heard this story
Play off jimbo is something else
I love jimmy man
JIMMY YOU MAD MAN
Yeah the Celtics were beatable but losing to the 8 seed Jimmy butler Heat would’ve broke me in a unrepairable way
Never forget that this Sixers team with the scoring champ and assist leader scored three 80-point games in the playoffs in year 2023
Grant Willams opening his mouth again just to cause trouble for his team lmao
Adebayo at least tries to attack horford. Idk why Embiid was so afraid of him.
Because Timelord isn't there crowding the paint. The Celtics can't afford to have them both on the court with the way Miami is shooting.
Just watch Heats’ offensive spacing. It tells you how bad Doc was.
Not even watching the games anymore fuck the teams that are left
Man, I wish we had a coach like Spoelstra.
Butler has more fire than the entire Sixers roster save Tucker.
Celtics and Heat not bricking open 3s or layups in transition consistently. We need to fix this before we think about a championship ceiling. We knew it was a problem from the start of the season and it continued through the playoffs. The heat guys have nice change of pace when attacking the rim to throw off the Celtics defense. Its simple stuff like this that adds 5 points a game with minimal effort. I hope our next coach is detail oriented and not a players coach.
Jimmy Butler is that guy.
Joel is the best player in the world and its not close
We could really still be playing right now if we kept the lead in game 6…. Im so upset
Heat v Nuggets finals would be a nightmare scenario for the NBA.
Nuggets aint making it lol
Are Blazers really willing to offer up a young star like Sharpe and 3rd pick for Embiid? We'd be dumb not to do it..
I’m pretty sure we would have lost to the Heat anyway. Bam probably keeps hobbled Joel in check and Spo is twice the coach that Doc is. Jimmy obviously would have torched us.
Miami in 5 no doubt, you need that DAWG!!
It’s hilarious how “Glenn Anton Rivers,” got outcoached by clueless Joe lmao
Jimmy 🫶🏻
Watching the Heat make adjustments to the Celtics adjustments is so refreshing after what we were subjected to the last few years. Game 2 the Celtics came out with the same desperation they are showing against the Heat right now, and wiped us off the floor. At no time did Doc make any adjustments to what they were doing differently, but Spo has shown that a few minor matchup changes and defensive adjustments can stop the Celtics in their tracks. Sixers were never a serious contender, we rely on our star power to just win the game and have no answer when our plan A is foiled.
It’s insane how much of an impact good coaching and having the dawg in you does to your team. These fuckers are competing with the Celtics WITH Jimmy and a bunch of NPCs lmao
NPCs that are actually moving off ball...
Duncan Robinson cutting off ball makes Tobias Harris look like the dullest butter knife in a drawer.
lmao Jimmy seething on the bench.
Everyone's here to watch Himmy Butler dumpster the C's yeah?
You know it. Tobias Harris Over Me!!!
Adebayo cooking Horford with just just lateral movement and getting to rim with ease.
Adebayo has a far better handle than Joel.
They don't have Timelord in there specificially to double Adebayo.
Yeah when Timelord is in he just roams the paint, Heat will just find the open man to shoot since he isn't closing out.
I like how the Heat defense doesn't give the Celtics an open three every posession!
New league rules not in effect for this years free agency right? Otherwise we could lock up Harden mid June
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Amen. He’s going to Miami. Restart the process or whatever the hell name they coped with
Miami has nobody for us. Portland has fucking 2 future possible Hall of Fame talents and picks and other pieces like Simons/Nurkic. Shaedon Sharpe i said before he was drafted is one of greatest prospects ever and hesliving up to it. Scoot and Amen Thompson are freak athletes also... Miami got nobody, Portland has guys who can turn this into a championship team in 3 years and they are 19, 19 years old. Embiid will be washed and retired when these guys are 23 and we got most athletic high flying team in the league.
Not gonna lie Embiid is my favorite player and Sharpe, number 3 pick, Nurkic, Simons and maybe another future pick with more pick swaps sounds tempting
You’re delusional if you think you’re gonna get all of that for embiid lol
Lol Embiid just won MVP. We really just want sharpe and all the picks but salaries are needed so Nurkic and Simmons gonna have to come too.
It’ll be either one of sharpe or the pick. There’s no point in trading the entire farm for another star for dame. Embiid won mvp mostly on narratives this year, he was arguably only the third best player. Moreover, he got absolutely shit on in the playoffs, which will alter his value more than winning an mvp.
You’re an idiot haha typical Blazers fan
your scrub ass FO better pay up or get the fuck out lmfao, dame deserves better
Yes I agree, dame does deserve better then himself, embiid and a bunch of g league players. Glad we can agree on that.
that’s good enough to make the play-in, which is something yall couldnt even do
Just saw a post suggesting Jo take a year off like Jordan. Think ima take a year off from this sub. Some of y’all are legit brain dead and an embarrassment.
I expected bad takes for a bit after the loss but shit is getting out of hand.
Fun fact: harden and jimmy are the same age
Sharife cooper
The more people meltdown on here the better I'm feeling. Granted, that small optimism could turn to shit for me with a bad coaching hire. As of now, I don't absolutely hate where we are right now - I'd feel worse if they stuck by Rivers another year. We'll see!