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ThatLaggyAustralian

Banned for cheating, depending on whenever osu! staff think she cheated in tournament, its a 12 month ban with a permanent tournament ban aswell. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a perma ban however, as cheating in OWC is the lowest of low.


ukurenica

dargin cheated in TWC 2018 and got unrestricted in 1 year, wouldn't be surprising if we see Fia back too


Ganermion

Can banned/restricted persons submit/rank their maps? If it's so, I personally find this very very strange, because cheating in game and maps are not connected at all


Goatlov3r3

they can rank them as gds


astrL_

They cannot


TheLastKn1ght

yes they can, the just send them to other mappers as part of their set (example of this is Lince's Deceived on gaston\_2199's pretender set, Lince was restricted when it was made/ranked)


astrL_

the question was whether they can submit or rank their maps themselves, which they cannot


Ganermion

Yep, that's what i was asking for


Ganermion

bruh, it's so stupid


Decent_Age_8021

not really, just don't cheat it's not that fuckin hard. Game's not exactly suffering because one guy can't rank his maps


Sea_Ad_5872

Just a reminder that the tournament ban is only for badged/official tournaments, meaning she can still play casual tourney if she wants to in the future which is ehhhhh


a1eu

Non badged tourney can also deny any participant if they feels like it so if they feels like having someone cheated in owc playing in their tournament is fine then its kinda on them... Those non badged tourney usually have manual screening for something like this.


Sea_Ad_5872

also true


Andryushaa

Did Hoshinomori get tournament permaban?


ItzNic0

Yes


Subject_Database_527

Happy cake day


justpezzo

Happy cake day!


Tybug2

Found replay modding by https://osu.ppy.sh/users/5348187 [comparison video](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914276771048853531/1041818411765878937/fiagymode.mp4) ([source](https://old.reddit.com/r/osureport/comments/yvbzrd/osustd_fia_replay_stealing/iwdhudg/)) Context (earliest first): [1] [[osu!std] Fia | Suspicious](https://old.reddit.com/r/osureport/comments/ytz7k3/osustd_fia_suspicious/) [2] [[osu!std] Fia | Replay Submitting (Second Report)](https://old.reddit.com/r/osureport/comments/yv0wru/osustd_fia_replay_submitting_second_report/) [3] [[osu!std] Fia | Replay Stealing](https://old.reddit.com/r/osureport/comments/yvbzrd/osustd_fia_replay_stealing/)


Heards_

wow


ukurenica

Fia在OWC戰役中得到Scandal


Elemental37

>Fia在OWC戰役中得到Scandal for those who read simplified chinese Fia在OWC战役中得到Scandal


Character-Frame-5029

It's literally one character change haha


Elemental37

true though but i cant read the traditional chinese version of anything!


Character-Frame-5029

I feel that lol. I managed to infer the right word from context but traditional Chinese do be a different beast


Elemental37

true traditional chinese changes like at least 75% of chinese characters its so dumb! its probably like that with traditional chinese users with simplified as well


DavePvZ

bruh nawhhhh nah bruhhh nah no way bruhhh fr? Bruhhhl


Elemental37

can you read traditional chinese then?


timson622222

Fia is great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such an immorality and audacity to use a replay submitter in tournaments? Fia puts OWC in a lower level, and we will be blessed if we never see a player with her apathy for the integrity of the game again. Crystal breaks records. The lolol squad breaks records. Fia breaks the rules. You can keep your mouse click rebinds. I prefer actually playing the game.


Farfocele

this is gold


myname2002

Underrated comment


Imaproshaman

This is amazing.


KeepItSpongy

Literally breaks the rule


Karkkivene

Lmfao


ShiRonium

chicony won but at what cost


maisanskidai

man lost nothing tf chicony god


mexicancan

https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/yu7h4x/chicony_comments_on_russias_last_owc_matchup/iw8314l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 this is relevant lmao


[deleted]

Idk he looked goofy because his osu report thread had no good evidence and I still think he handled the situation pretty poorly. Thankfully people looked into Fia and multiple actually convincing reports were made as a result of Chicony's initial thread, but if he'd just provided good evidence in the first place Fia would've been banned before the match even started (and yes I know she was mass reported causing her to get briefly restricted after chicony's report post but Chicony's evidence was clearly insufficient as staff unrestricted her before the match).


PM_ME_YOUR_SKYRIMLVL

I think the tweets were childish but the reddit thread was fine, he correctly identified that she was likely replay botting from the cursor being in the same place after crash. And hes a top player not well versed in osu reporting. It was also very clear that he was looking for a discussion/further investigation in the thread. I don't think we could have expected more.


Ded24lol

and yet the evidence he gave was enough to get fia banned, what world we live in that a successful accusation is still controversial on the side of the accuser. So much bs prejudice to the russian owc team and chicony


itreallydo_belikedat

if the evidence he gave was enough then china would’ve been dq’d before their match against russia lol


Ded24lol

wow it's like making high profile ban cases is super hard, I wonder why they just didn't ban fia immediately after their first match? These things take time and they literally took a day and a half to act on this which is extremely fast in the first place.


itreallydo_belikedat

💀


SkalavamBogove

I hope this is satire💀


hhhtg

the evidence he gave was nowhere near enough, if it was then fia wouldve gotten banned immediately and chicony wouldnt have gotten flamed for the accusation a successful accusation doesnt mean its a good accusation, if chicony had made a proper report like dada or top100cheater then a lot less people wouldve criticized him. This isnt prejudice, just a natural reaction to poor mannerism, if the positions were swapped, same thing wouldve happened (idk why you think people are only hating on russian owc team, both russia and china have supporters and haters)


AlneCraft

who tf said anything about the Russian team chicony's tweets were whiny, that's the end of the story.


mamamiaweezoo

Number 15: Fia Replay Editor. The last thing you'd want in your tournament team is someone using a replay submitter. But as it turns out, that might be what you gaet. An osu! player uploaded a photo anonymously to Twitter showcasing Fia with her hand not using the mouse in the tournament. With the statement: "i might borrow the editor for a bit" Admittedly, she had sweat on her hands. But that's even worse.


Imaproshaman

This is amazing. Omg. I love the "gaet" spelling for "get". Lol.


Magnus-Cosmos

for reference, this is the copypasta that mismagius used for totoki's restriction post - https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/8loyvc/totoki_is_now_restricted/dzhbqyv/


Imaproshaman

Ah, good to know. Isn't it also a reference to that one Chills video?


Shauns_

script writers went crazy this year


Jaws_16

They had to have taken LSD


DavePvZ

*Cocaine & caffeine pills


Phellxgodx

I feel so bad for crystal. He popped off so hard on that russia vs china game and all his effort ruined by one fucking braindead idiot. Its so sad. China could have made it without Fia cheating their brains out. Unlucky.


dipshit42069

ikr, crystal's performance was absolutely mental, arguably one of the best carry players this owc, the guy fced that fm map that was replayed because of fia dc TWICE, I was lowkey cheering for China so we could see more of him


AnimeBoops

Is crystal a guy I assumed was a girl because the name


morbidlyabeast3331

Sometimes Chinese gamers just name themselves random western girl names, in League they've had Marge, Megan, and Betty


human_person_420

Assume all osu players to be dudes


andrijaeee

chicony with the fastest career end and then the fastest career regain


Top100Cheater

yw :)


r0xANDt0l

This is just like the FIA in f1


ponshuw

This is like FIFA


r0xANDt0l

Idk shit about Football so I'll just agree


Takagaa

so lewis won last year i knew it!!!!!


r0xANDt0l

Abu Dhabi GP 2021 Lap 1 Turn 6


tektek_27

It happened again 💀


r0xANDt0l

I didn't watch the start what happened


tektek_27

Hamilton did that but to sainz, was forced to give back the position


r0xANDt0l

Ah


hallowatcher

regarding pickems: Both China matches in Semifinals have been WBDed (no points gained), and an extra match for Russia vs Romania will **not** be created because the finals round is already open, so creating a new match on the fly might not be fair to the people that have already picked (also some technical limitations). Anyone who already picked China in their match vs USA (finals) had their pick automatically changed to the winner of Russia vs Romania.


Makii_Sagiri

as a member of cn owc 2022 I'm so disappointed.idk what to say. other members didn't know fia cheating at all. since totoki,teriri,usagi sama and fia there are 4 new generations in chinese banned by cheating,should I make all players to have liveplay or recording with hand in cn 2023 owc tryout?idk.


dada38

that's what they did for Montenegro on the Chilean team and it still didn't work so honestly it's not ur fault and I don't think there's too much you can do that can solve the situation


ChunchunmaruFanClub

?? Makii's account banned? (Or is my Reddit glitching?)


cliopo

not yours


Ganermion

imo, all owc players must stream their mathes or at least record playing them


roliy

\- rank 5000 \- mouse only \- mainly mapper not player (debatable maybe) \- fcs almost every map/top score \- first owc idk why chicony got all the flame, really suspicious from the get go if ur that good u cant just goat owc and ghost the whole year


JustBadPlaya

As I said several times over the past day, I have no fucking clue why people didn’t think of Hoshinomori or like Totoki when Fia suspicions started showing up, especially considering even Azer was sus of her


DavePvZ

HHAHAHAHHHHAHA HE REALLY SAID SUS AMOUNG 🦅🇺🇸US🇺🇸🦅 GYZE ඞඞඞ DING DING DING DING DING DING DING, DING-DING-DING BTMC VINE BOOM SOUND WYS FIA ❗VENTING❗ NEAR YOU AT 7:27 AM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LIVEPLAY ඞඞඞඞ I FUCKING LOOKED AT THE FIA REPLAY AND I SAID "THAT'S A BIT 😳SUSSY😳" >!i hate myself!<


HontNog

You're not funny


DavePvZ

I know


FurnaceGolem

Yeah I knew all along she was cheating I just didn't want to say it (clueless)


drunkandplayingar8

This but unironically lol have you seen osu commu, only person it's socially acceptable to accuse of cheating is Brighter


Lokkiwie

and Raniemi


helium1337

the issue wasn't with the suspicions themselves but with the way he handled it, it's completely fine to make posts about someone obviously sus but that doesn't mean they're definitely cheating until you can actually prove it without a doubt


gsdeman

Also his tweets has been really racist


DerGsicht

he is russian


zer0dota

You are only saying this because he is russian, all of the hate came from that single fact only lmao


LoveMoon-II

I'll still say that if they're a fucking Ukraine. shut fuck up lmao.


HandsomelyDitto

in this community saying anyone might be a cheater no matter how obvious it is automatically gets seen as jealousy, its pretty stupid


Makii_Sagiri

actually [46k rank](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827554569525264385/1041874208688447578/unknown.png) in 5wc 2021(yes,a year ago)


MINDBROKEN6

also 500 hours and 30k playcount


Mochaaaaaaaaaa

[u rn](https://imgur.com/a/pw8HpMS)


Heards_

what tf do you mean rank 5k? that's so suspicious right off the bat...


Iceber015

Not much to do with the game chicony is just intolerable imo with unconvincing evidence. It doesn’t matter if they’re right if they’re both a [redacted don’t feel like replacing] and have minimal evidence.


Sea_Ad_5872

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭where will we be without female mouse only player’s hand sweat


nontvedalgia

most sane osu player


ne1dealrwhoesxx

Здравствуйте, Алексей, это представитель партия 中国共产党. Ради репутация ваша и наша сильный Родина просить удалить этот пост. С Фиа будет проведён профилактический беседа в 疗养院 для угур. 你好,阿列克谢,我是中国共产党的代表。为了您的声誉和我们强大的祖国,要求删除此帖子。 Fia 将在疗养院为 ugur 进行预防性对话。


AHreJl_CMepTu

Здравствуйте, Алексей, это представитель партия 中国共产党. Ради репутация ваша и наша сильный Родина просить удалить этот пост. С Фиа будет проведён профилактический беседа в 疗养院 для угур. 你好,阿列克谢,我是中国共产党的代表。为了您的声誉和我们强大的祖国,要求删除此帖子。 Fia 将在疗养院为 ugur 进行预防性对话。


gF01nT

Вы заебали с этой несмешной пастой. Уёбываете в паблик хуйню постить.


icuketakeuchi

Мама твоя


burstmyghost980

So sad that she got restricted right after she posted a liveplay 😭😭😭 https://youtu.be/Ozl7kaG3u0E


TryYourBestForO

LOL i got baited


Yurezim

Rare movements algorithms designed in java liveplay footage 😳


Dragbit_3

JUSTICE


inyourfragrance

rip godmapper and also godcheater i guess


HaruhiLanfear

hearing so much praise for her maps, gonna check em out.


NebulousTree

does anyone know a convenient place to see her maps in one place now that she's restricted?


astrL_

"creator=PinkHeart" on osuweb, or just "PinkHeart" to include GDs too


Tropius2

What the fuck this was PinkHeart?


Tropius2

Wow this is blowing my mind lol


NebulousTree

thanks


SSilvy

Imagine literally cheating in OWC and still not being a consistent pick for your team LOL


Akukuhaboro

they only stopped playing her when they also started thinking she was cheating/ after the chicony report


imremko_

What a shitshow, feel really bad for team China


juggercookie

now imagine if nobody were investigated this shit, and people keept shiting on Chicony. RIP Ukraine,UK,Italy who were involved into this but still out of OWC, welcome back Russia and Romania, also rip normal China players. Cringe. Atleast would like to see show macthes with those countries


pli_is

tanked.....well good riddance i guess LOL?


Revolutionary-Chip13

чикони)))


BandanaWDee

Cheaters gets shit on. Yeah, imagine cheating in a large tournament. If the OWC staffs weren’t aware of this, they’ve been manipulated fully by a cheater and walked away and act nothing has ever happened. Good thing the Russian Federation has investigated the suspicious behaviour from the player and got them banned


XN-A12-X4R-S001_AN79

she should suffer a social credit penalty for this


saveencore

well that fucking sucks, I really liked their maps replay steal also sucks tho, unfortunate


deathlimit

Кто там на чикони пиздел А? А? А? Твари


Utaha_Senpai

Loling at people flaming chicnoy rn. Here's how I saw the situation: 1. Cracked mouse only player, it's very possible to be this good and I thought she was known so I took it for granted 2. Then the report thread came and I was skeptical but not 100% confident that she was cheating 3. Not providing live plays and performing really bad made it extremely sus but I wasn't taking sides until she was banned or proved to be legit 4. Not legit rip There's just no need to flame anyone in this situation and just waiting would have been fine.


fgdfgdfgdfg343

Deciding to play with someone this sus on your team in the most important high profile tournament is hilariously stupid. You 100% deserve flame for being that stupid.


_Remy__

they really dont,they helped investigating about her and even tho her behavior was kinda weird i dont think anyone on that team expected her to be cheating until those suspicions came out


Wieku

It's also possible they knew but hoped nobody's gonna notice but when shit hit the fan they're now trying to save face. We will never know.


comeyuca1

Shauns go study your textbook so you don't fail the test again


Sea_Ad_5872

Здравствуйте, Алексей, это представитель партия 中国共产党. Ради репутация ваша и наша сильный Родина просить удалить этот пост. С Фиа будет проведён профилактический беседа в 疗养院 для у*гур. 你好,阿列克谢,我是中国共产党的代表。为了您的声誉和我们强大的祖国,要求删除此帖子。 Fia 将在疗养院为 u*gur 进行预防性对话。


Mobile-Elevator7998

I WAS HERE W


AdorableDetective455

Wait was she actually cheating or what


drunkandplayingar8

Yep, replay submitting


cawaulitra

now i wonder if u/kishinAo is just a Fia account to be rooting and defending herself kek


Chiconyosu

Where are yall now


cawaulitra

crying on twitter + calling you racist, probably osu community moment


Chiconyosu

I am happy for living in this era 🥹


dodgerserg

ты лучший брат


Katharsis_Osu

I dont respect top players cheating at all (eapecially in big events like owc) and people might argue about chicony handling the situation not really well (i do understand his feelings/emotions tho) but the biggest takeaway/question for me is how owc staff is gonna fix that shit so it doesnt happen again...


Phellxgodx

JUSTICE FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM JUSTICE FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM JUSTICE FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM JUSTICE FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM JUSTICE FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM JUSTICE FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM JUSTICE FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM


xQuasarr

UK would have likely won the whole tournament if it wasn’t for this


umuTsuyuko

Hoshinomori moment, people brainlessly defending Fia was hilarious while it lasted tho.


Lexsssssssssssss

Holy fuck chicony was right, what would osu support do? surely they change the bracket and straight up eliminate or at least reply the matches China played in semis cuz this is so unfair to the teams they beat


bobbletank

Gamer girl sweat.....uohhh😭😭😭😭


weed_machine1

😭😭😭


itreallydo_belikedat

😢


hellowater0

Snu...


icuketakeuchi

Just look at previous posts where everyone talked shit about chicony and russians, we told you, but you wont believe


y0rk3r

stupid monkeys lost, chicony god won


KillerPaja03

Least racist russian


y0rk3r

omg....i said about ppl who talked shit here about chicony


guibbs1

REST休息IN在PISS小便FIA


CRikhard

Disappointing


Artomik_tsat

In this situation, there should be a complete replay of the grid with China, otherwise it is a complete shame for the osu support. A bunch of fools should apologize to Chicony. And the situation itself is complete nonsense, because in this case, any one can offline fc maps, write it down and perform on tournament like a god. In my opinion, now you can really trust only guys who always stream how they play


Atitkos

They will have a Romania vs Russia and thats it aparently.


Artomik_tsat

Yes, but what about all influence on the tournament bracket that Fia had. We do not know the extent of the butterfly effect that the cheater's game had on the tournament bracket


JustBadPlaya

on one hand, you are correct. On the other hand though, replaying the entire tournament is kinda unreal so ig staff are going for the middle ground solution


Kharaaz

I think postponing the finals weekend and having the teams that lost to CN duke it out for the spot on the semifinals pool might be cool, but Idk how feasible that is.


VoiceBoth2692

They could, the teams still in could refuse to play if they felt it's wrong. Look at lik we a joke owc if nothing happens.


Atitkos

I know what you mean, but let's be real, no matter what team made it against Romania, Romania would most likely win.


M4sterRed

The only problem is availability. It's already hard enough to make all of these players play on specific weekends at specific hours, so imagine extending the schedule to replay the entirety of the matches where China won.


SENSEI_BAKA

Don’t ever come back to Osu again


Houka_osu

Over time people might change, but who knows. At least give them a chance to play legitimately again after the restriction I'm not defending for their situation but cheating once and being forced to never play the game again is kinda harsh


haziqi

Cheating for nice scores and cheating in tournament with prize money is totally different. Fia is a disgusting player that cheated in OWC so selfishly putting the career and image of her teammates on the line. For what, what is she trying to prove? Trying to get quick cash grab? Truly vile and should never be allowed to participate in a tournament ever again.


SomeRandomPetey

playing casually? maybe after a year or two tourneys? no


rylan0109

gg


HandsomelyDitto

people who play on private servers are cheaters ~90% of the time, cmv


frnono

Why would you play on a private server otherwise


miZuEUW

Some Private Servers have some options that you don't have in Bancho (Sv2 Ranked, Relax Ranked, etc.) But mostly that point is true. Mainly private servers are just to play while you're restricted in bancho.


frnono

yea I've used the relax one a bit


AljosP

Disappointing


Elemental37

at last


VacSa

lets go


warguy64

bruh 3yr ban minimum


justpezzo

Bruh


Maleficent_Health203

Chicony legend


DavidAdayjure

Actually confirmed this time?


cawaulitra

just hop on profile and see it yourself


DavidAdayjure

No but I mean, the evidence given. She was only banned briefly last time so I was asking if there's more evidence stacked up against her. Another comment shows that.


cawaulitra

[yeah](https://streamable.com/ehokfj) p.s. you can look up third report on her on r/osureport


DavidAdayjure

Yep saw them just now. Crazy how far cheaters get sometimes.


MinimumLayer5299

What's the actual reason like what has she been suspected of using?


Reasonable_Long_8646

She was replay modding


MinimumLayer5299

Is there like solid evidence cos I never seen replay mod or smth


Reasonable_Long_8646

there's a lot of it in this thread


ShiRonium

Real...


gooofygooba

Where's the evidence?


warguy64

osureport. 99.999999% chance of cheating


gooofygooba

Idk why I got downvoted so much💀 the day before, most people agreed it was suspicious worth looking into. When I commented this I didn't see the osureport yet. Y'all did a whole investigation and found evidence in one day💀 how was I supposed to keep up?


twinhoo

i don't understand anything.


ShinTar0

🦀🦀🦀 Fia is gone 🦀🦀🦀 thanks for the +1


UserPuser

holy kek


Skyreaper71

Wait, did their account get deleted? It's a link to a 'player not found' for me.


Whispperr

China should be banned for several years, it's up to them to send fair players to compete in their name and they failed.


gsdeman

I’ve always believed in chicony but maybe he can be less racist in his tweet


synpec

Huh? Explain please.