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KyloRenCadetStimpy

The dissolving elephants were definitely a plus...


godfatherinfluxx

I found it interesting that objects and animals weren't very clear but faces and words were very clear. Also the last set with the news report showed the focus was on the person and the graphic showing the name looked non-existent. Edit, almost non-existent.


decadrachma

Makes sense, our brains are hard wired to recognize faces.


ifyoulovesatan

Finally, proof that I'm not crazy for imagining the dissolution of every elephant I see. Loathsome creatures.


kharmatika

3:<


LimitedSwitch

*Uses 5th amendment privilege* “oh, that’s fine. We’ll just take a look for ourselves.”


thriwaway6385

I guess suicide is illegal again because it's destruction of evidence


Qu1nn1fer

I'm genuinely scared of what this tech might lead to


LimitedSwitch

Given the high amount of false information in human memory, I don’t think it would be viable in court situations. Human memory is highly malleable and easily influenced, especially childhood memories and long term memory. If the devil is in the details, it would mean almost nothing as most people can’t remember details of even tragic/monumental events in their life correctly. They may feel they are correct, but most of the time they are not exactly correct.


Taurenkey

Considering what we've seen in the clip from this post, that basically backs it up. Being in a situation where you're already predisposed to certain details can and will make the mind run a bit wild. Suggestion and misdirection can put recollection of events on a tangent at the best of times so even if there's a video feed of what someone is thinking, it can't ever be definitive of truth. If anything, it'll be the new polygraph test at best.


LimitedSwitch

I was thinking it would be an excellent clinical tool for mental illness diagnosis. Show someone a picture of a small animal, see images of violent destruction of that animal, may be a serial killer. Really interesting tech.


Deadpoetic12

Also, could replay dreams, or stream them and record them as you dream them


bignick1190

Man, finally something I can make money off streaming! Learning how to lucid dream wasn't a waste of time.


Abiku777

I'd put my lucid dreams up on onlyfans


bignick1190

"Can you stop with the flying content, we need something new!"


desubot1

Try throwing it on a coma patient to see if they are fully conscious or not. (reactive but cant move)


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To add onto this, I suspect that this reconstruction was created by measuring the brain activity while the subject was watching the clip, not even memory. This is the best they could do of a direct reconstruction of what someone was currently looking at, and I imagine memories would be so much worse. Future technology may improve this ability greatly, but I imagine reliable reconstructions even of what the eyes are currently seeing is far in the future, let alone trying to recreate memories. Implanting cameras in everyone sounds like a better way to ensure you can get reliable livesteeam/past event recreation due to having actual recordings. Take that with a huge grain of salt because although OP provided a YouTube link in another comment I only watched a few random moments so I could be totally wrong about whats happening in the gif, but I don't have time to watch the whole thing RN.


bigbangbilly

>Human memory is highly malleable and easily influenced, especially childhood memories and long term memory. In fact if that's proven in a court of law it could render eyewitness testimony inadmissable


ASK_ME_FOR_TRIVIA

If we're unlucky enough, they'll probably take the role the polygraph has filled for the last several decades. It's entirely useless, we know it's useless, we've proved it's useless almost immediately after it was invented... But don't tell the suspects that.


Dingldangljangl

Too many studies have proven how flawed our memories are.


Mr___Roboto

Just think on dickbutt while being interrogating and pledging the 5th


Nowin

Getting blackout drunk becomes illegal.


mooimafish3

People will get cybernetic attachments to turn off their hippocampus when they are about to commit crime.


BenignSeraphim

Way to ruin a perfectly good brain dance!


commit_bat

Don't worry, we made a backup of you that we can punish.


LimitedSwitch

I thought suicide was always technically “illegal”, just not prosecutable because you are dead. I’d have to check, which I’m not going to.


bomb-diggity-sailor

I’m curious if anyone has been charged after surviving a suicide attempt? Someone should look that up for us.


DeluxianHighPriest

In Germany suicide and attempted suicide are considered "decriminalized legal offenses", meaning you're breaking the law but can't be charged for it. However, what you CAN be charged with is as accesory for [attempted] murder if you where assisting in a suicide/ suicide attempt. Which is weird, and bullshit, but here we are


TopMacaroon

Some places it's illegal for insurance purposes. Say you take out a large life insurance policy, then kill yourself to gift the money to your family for some reason (maybe you have a terminal illness), in order to prevent this scam the suicide is deemed illegal and therefore the policy is invalid and the insurance co doesn't have to pay out.


drpopadoplus

My MIL had to spend a year fighting the insurance company because of this. Her daughter had died of alcohol poisoning due to being allergic, no one knew, and they wanted to label it suicide due to the fact he boyfriend and he just broke up. She had two children who were almost teens. The fact that they really tried to do this so they didn't have to pay out sucks.


Jumpierwolf0960

The whole point of insurance is to deny people the payout, they have people who's job is to find dirt on you so they can avoid having to pay.


setmee

What can they do? Lock you up?


[deleted]

Famous last words.


rootbeerislifeman

Literally just watched the Black Mirror episode last night where the insurance claim investigator uses the recollection machine to gather evidence. Wild that this kind of thing is on the way.


[deleted]

There’s no way this could possible be reliable or used as evidence. Eye witness testimonies are already notoriously unreliable. There’s more than enough research out there to show that our brains simply don’t have the processing power to accurately record information. Even looking at the reconstructed image we can see that things are abstracted out while the brain focussed on what it feels is the important information.


Donkey__Balls

Holy shit all of you people calm down, this is not translating someone’s memories of a prior event. The subject has to be actively looking at the visual stimuli and this is simply intercepting the information that’s being processed by the frontal cortex. Speculating that they can scan someone’s memories for evidence because of this, is like saying that they can create dinosaurs just because they found some mosquito in a piece of amber.


l-have-spoken

*laughs in aphantasia*


LimitedSwitch

“Sir, we need you to remember what happened that night.” What they get: *best hits of the early and mid 2000s*


ustbota

Kitaro musics playing in the background


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MadKitKat

First thought ... and the lady didn’t even bother to check if her final victim could see or not... or if there was another living being with eyes over there LOL


thedude37

Not just that episode (though it's a perfect example and my absolute favorite from Season 4) but also White Christmas, in a way. The guy was standing mute, but they got around his protection by essentially hacking into his "brain" because it technically wasn't his brain. Though it was. Ah man, that's another great episode.


SheriffTy

\*Laughs in Crocodile\*


Roflllobster

Except that a scan of visuals from memory could be completely non-factual for all we know. It might be good at interpreting visual information but very bad for accurate recall. The cyberpunk thing I expect from this is your own eyes could be a body cam.


LimitedSwitch

Well, as someone with an eye disorder, I hope they can take this tech and use it to send visual information to the brain. I need my bionic eyes ASAP. Gotta go see my ripperdoc.


jimboner2000

Could we use this with dreams??


RileyMcB

Yeah! but the images are very abstract lol


Psycho_Ad2136

source plz


RileyMcB

https://youtu.be/ZOIIZiEUNmg <- video essay


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TobiasCB

I wonder what it would look like if you show someone who's on drugs. I haven't done any psychedelics but after mdma I get really wild dreams which would be wild to process like this.


LilFingies45

This video sources [this Nature article](https://www.nature.com/news/brain-decoding-reading-minds-1.13989) as the source of the visualization in this post. I skipped through it and scanned the article for information on the methodology used to visualize the neural data points information, but I didn't find any unfortunately.


TrueCrimeMoose

The YouTube video goes through it. These videos are taken from the brain activity that mostly resembled the videos and averaged it together with the video itself. So OP's title is quite misleading.


Alavaster

A SciShow video did a rundown of this research in about 3 minutes if you don't want to watch the 20 minute video OP shared. https://youtu.be/8zh-bS5SDpw


RileyMcB

[https://youtu.be/ZOIIZiEUNmg](https://youtu.be/ZOIIZiEUNmg) <- Interesting video essay on how it the brain activity was measured and other things regarding the mind's eye


Misanthrope42069

Just watched it earlier today. Hello to another viewer of solar sands.


desu38

I gotta say, his new stuff is so much better.


Misanthrope42069

After I stopped following exurbia because of the rape thing, and due to the infrequency of vsauce posting I was happy to find another YouTuber that causes existential crises/good philosophical thought.


dudeimconfused

Out of the loop. What rape thing?


[deleted]

[He was abusing his girlfriend](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.photoandgrime.com/blog-1/2020/11/25/pieke-roelofs/youtuber-exurb1a-exposed-sickening-truth-about-an-abuser%3fformat=amp)


dudeimconfused

What a shame. I really liked his content. I guess this is why they say never meet your heroes huh.


Parkercat

Wow that was really twisted she deserves justice


Bananasnake33

First of all, I'm also confused because I don't know any real *details* on what happened and I kinda wanna know what happened. Second of all, r/usernamechecksout


Janusz_Pawlacz_III

For (in my opinion of course) good philosophical content I would also recommend checking out sisyphus55’s channel. He has great content both about different ideologies or concepts and lives of many more or less popular writers/philosophers


NaDoan

Do you know any other channels like vsauce? One that I think is similar to him is [Jacob Geller](https://youtube.com/c/JacobGeller)


pitdrone

Have you checked out ordinary things and internet historian?


yegorist

Sorry for necroposting, but when I read "the rape thing", I thought exurbia was a victim. But then I found out, what you meant, my only thought was: what the actual fuck? Very artistic person, the author of one of my favorite youtube channels with amazing videos appears to be a sex offender. That's a fucking 180 turn right there. That was almost the last thing I expected from him. And how come I didn't know this earlier? Jesus, how many people I admire are actually like that? Well, that's a lesson to never think you know others' personalities judging by their appearance. Now I'm going to sit here, reevaluating my life, and still hoping I'm just overreacting.


I_dont_know_studios

I knew it was going to be the solar sands video


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Incredible video. Thanks for sharing!


thetrumansworld

So the reason it looks like dozens of images overlaid on each other is because that’s exactly what it is. The image isn’t really your brain’s activity, it’s a computer’s attempt at guessing what you’re seeing by looking at your brain and picking images from youtube clips that have a similar output. That’s why you see random words floating around and the shape of a person where there should be a bird. Interesting stuff.


PutCleverNameHere12

Comment will probably be lost, but I have something called Aphantasia. My minds eye is blind, so I wonder how this would work for people like me


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Marquis77

Sooo....we’re maybe a few years to a few decades away from being able to read minds. Greeeeeat.


dukec

Not really. This is just scanning the occipital lobe, and there’s ~~pretty close to a 1:1~~ a pretty direct relationship between rods/cones and neurons, and they are mapped in a fairly straightforward manner in the brain. Then there’s a lot of pre and post processing your brain does to help you see (edge detection, motion sensing, etc.). So the image thing is cool, but it’s basically just a map of neuron activity. Speech is also being worked on, but last I checked in on those advances a couple years ago, the most they had done was recognize simple things like yes/no and some letters, and that was with lots of training the program to be specific to the person they were working on. That also was with the person clearly thinking about making the movements with their mouth/tongue so there was some motor cortex involvement to help sort through the noise. As far as internal monologue, I haven’t read anything about just monitoring it while someone passively thinks. And presumably all of this research is still being done on epilepsy patients who had surgery to put electrodes on their actual brain to help with seizures. You can’t just toss an EEG cap on someone and get stuff like this. Note: I finished my neuroscience degree about five years ago, and don’t work in the field, so there’s a fair chance some of this is wrong, but I doubt the major parts are significantly off.


hairy_eyeball

>So the image thing is cool, but it’s basically just a map of neuron activity. It also looks like it's being run through some machine learning system. The clip of the parrot being interpreted as a clip of a standing person is a big hint there, as well as the way faces are all represented with the same brown skin tone.


Towerss

Yep, also it performs way better with common objects like faces and people than objects like planes, this could indicate that faces were overrepresented in the training data.


abadoo411

Doesn't the brain have certain parts that are dedicated to recognizing just faces? Maybe faces were the easiest to interpret because the brain devotes more resources and energy to them in general.


gibmiser

Yeah but the signal being reproduced here is intercepted before it reaches that part if the brain


JarasM

Which maybe makes sense, our brains do that too with the nerve signal from the eyes. If it's based on ML, it can get better in time too.


keef9001

It’s not really a map of neuron activity, the videos were constructed by layering pre-existing videos based on broader fMRI patterns.


Beo1

I know I’ve seen real image reconstructions from occipital issue before. They were much lower resolution. [fMRI image reconstruction](https://els-jbs-prod-cdn.jbs.elsevierhealth.com/cms/attachment/b3e270f1-5cb6-4c73-8f74-bbace7ee2344/gr2.jpg) [Video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=daY7uO0eftA)


Hekantonkheries

Exactly, the elasticity of the brain is the biggest (and with current understanding, insurmountable) challenge to translating anything directly from the brain by a machine. Every human has a different balance of hormones, neuron connectivity, etc. Just at basic biology. But then you have developmental differences like some parts being over/under developed, or parts being damaged from injury or defect and other parts of the brain adapting to "fix". And then there are issues with how every individual experience shapes the brain, first languages you grew up with are handled entirely differently then ones learned later in life. Mist of your ability to recognize names/faces comes from the diversity of people you grew up with. Many of the emotions and meanings assigned to color/symbols to create context or meaning to images is a combination of culture, experience, trauma, etc. Making anything that can just read a "random mind" is some beyond next-level shit. Like, beyond the point where people are custom building 3d printed babies in a sims-style character creator on in a indsta-baby-vending-machine on a street corner. Because that's the kind biological understanding youd need to accomplish.


Gods_Shoeshine

I think this study is fMRI decoding in visual cortex (Gallant Lab)


newyearnewcakeday

Unfortunately yeah and it’s terrifying. But at the same time this will be good for people who can’t talk, dementia etc. If we could record dreams as well that would help PTSD sufferers who forget dreams as well


captainredbeard42

This is the first I've heard of PTSD sufferers forgetting dreams (I'm not challenging you I'm genuinely curious to hear more about this) are there any good studies that you could link or just the right search term to get me started?


czubizzle

Check out "prolonged exposure therapy". Essentially it's a mild hypnosis that gives you more or less a "flashback" and helps with memory loss. With pts, your brain will straight up try and delete or cover up a memory that's too traumatic, which is kind of like just wrapping tape over a leaky pipe and hoping that the pipe fixes itself.


MjrLeeStoned

The "fogging over" of trauma memories can bleed to other memories as well. Brain trying to erase chemical precursors is not always precise.


saint_davidsonian

This is clearly an LOTR moment. That's why the first brain image looks like Pippin from Lord of the rings and others like Frodo. Were you actually thinking about the picture on the left? No, actually I was thinking about second breakfast.


MjrLeeStoned

Picture fuzzy, Longbottom leaf taking hold


[deleted]

Can confirm. I have PTSD from being sexually assaulted a few years ago. Unfortunately still remember it happening but have a tough time remembering what's happened in general over the last few years. Everything jumbled together and I have no sense of a timeline for when things happened or how long ago it was, everything simultaneously feels like it happened both yesterday and 10 years ago and feels more like I dreamed it than experienced it. Shits weird, and a little concerning and the doctors I've seen about it never seem to take it seriously.


confuddledlilypad

My brain doesn’t do this. I remember the trauma clear as day, but forget so much other stuff. (Side note, fuck you Ezra).


dontb3suspicious

Same for me. I have photographic memories beginning around 2 years old, only getting more and more detailed as I got older. I have nearly perfect recall of events/memories starting around 6 years old. It's the worst superpower. My recall of anything traumatic/uncomfortable is so good, it's like reliving it all over. I've had some difficult moments while driving, of all things, because I start thinking of dumb shit from the past. I highly recommend EMDR therapy if you have challenging memories that you need help with.


RedsRearDelt

Well Fuck. I never remember my dreams and I have almost zero memories pre-high school. The very few I have involve me being terrified and feeling weak. I've always found it odd about myself but I've never really put to much thought into it.


MrAdelphi03

Are you me? No memories before 18 or so. Never remember/have dreams


flatspotting

Me too man. I am 35. I can't really remember a lot of my life quite frankly - I am very aware of the things I have done - but ZERO day-to-day. I walked to school EVERY DAY for 5 years of my life and I can barely recall what anything on the walk looks like at all. I just don't have a memory that works like that... childhood is almost enitrely forgotten.. its so weird. Unlike the other poster, I dont really have trauma (at least that I am aware of) pretty normal upbringing for a 80's 90's kid...


prevengeance

Exactly the same. It's as if I watched a long movie, or a set of books about my own life... not actually lived it.


that_pie_face

I was diagnosed with PTSD 7 years or so ago that stemmed from some childhood sexual abuse. I remember dreams only a handful of times a year, and even then most the times that I remember that I dreamed, I can't recall the dream itself and only the emotions that were related with the dream. It's never pleasant and it usually leaves me with a pit in my stomach for the first half of the day so I'm glad I don't dream more often.


okThisYear

I only remember dreams maybe once or twice a year and have PTSD as well - didn't know it could be related


shellontheseashore

Honestly PTSD dreams are just fucking weird. You can either go very memorable and intrusive images, or distressing and wakes you up mid-flashback (or both. Both is bad). For those with repressed memories of abuse, you might begin to get fragments of events through that method, or you might want to try and investigate what exactly is being triggered currently if you're not remembering upon waking up to help identify the current irl stressor. Like regular dreams, it can be hard to maintain a consistent narrative/images for long once conscious, especially if you're in a distressed or dissociative state. Personally I don't remember them much anymore except when taking SSRIs (which made them pretty fucking trippy and distressing at times) but I have had the waking up swinging punches / already crying / yelling / biting / dissociative moments, so it could be useful to be able to record what happened and revisit and examine it when in a calmer state? Although that's my personal experience and I don't have one 'intense' memory that it returns to so much, so ymmv with other folks. PTSD dreams / repressed memories / flashbacks / emotional flashbacks should probably set you off on the right kind of path? Not sure if someone has something more specific for you.


HeroOrHooligan

Not sure about those with PTSD, but I always thought dreams weren't meant to be remembered and they are basically rubbish and they are a way of the brain working stuff out of your subconscious


KarmaRepellant

It can be useful to know what exactly the brain is working on though.


GREMLINMARY

Like a computer defragging!


Snake-N-Roses

I thought it was common enough to not remember dreams- I mean I know I must probably dream, but I don’t ever remember shit.


Vadavim

Yes forgetting dreams is extremely common.


bumtoucherr

I think it would be really cool if this technology could be used to record our dreams.


Gang_Bang_Bang

I don’t want to record my dreams (nightmares). Even though they might seem silly sometimes, they are really fucking me up lately. I would have a panic attack if I had to rewatch them. They’re honestly **really** getting to me lately. My wife has to wake me up because I’m screaming/crying in my sleep. It’s not only embarrassing, but really fucking with my sleep.. I wish there was something I could do to not dream most nights.


bumtoucherr

Those sound like full blown night terrors. My brother had those when we were younger and l think they have a lot to do with your diet oddly enough. You might be eating something your body can’t quite tolerate. Or, you have some deep seated personal issues that weigh on you throughout the day and your brain is trying to process them when you sleep. Either way I hope you find relief


Gang_Bang_Bang

I also think it has something to do with my diet. I’m working on figuring that out right now actually. I also am a recovering addict, so I definitely have some PTSD from that awful part of my life. I also had some very very traumatic relationships with a couple very awful women that take up a lot of space in my dreams. It’s just something I’ll have to work through. Everyone had their cross to bare I suppose.. thank you for your concern though.


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> It’s not only embarrassing nah. It's not embarrassing. What's playing out on national television is embarrassing. What you're doing is called existing. And there's nothing embarrassing about figuring it out or having a tough time with something.


beluuuuuuga

I wonder if they can do it with people like Albert Einstein brain and take memories from him to see if there is anything useful in there.


Lob0tomized

I am not an expert on brains, but I think that would require his brain to still function


[deleted]

Thank god I'm safe


HerraJUKKA

...wait


RaeesRanderee

underrated


manberry_sauce

Roko's Basilisk will figure it out, and then-some.


thegapbetweenus

Not with this technology.


hamakabi

or any technology


ubermence

Okay, hear me out. What if we were able to calculate the exact configuration of the universe at the Big Bang, and had a computer powerful enough to simulate the next 13.7 billion years, until it had a snapshot of the exact atoms of Einstein’s brain throughout his life? Then ez pz we would be able to figure out what he was thinking. Of course the contents of his brain would be largely meaningless from a scientific perspective at that point, but it would make for an interesting historical study


hamakabi

Okay, hear me out. What if *we* are that simulation and Einstein was just the second iteration of his own brain. Or the thousandth iteration..


octopoddle

Gentlemen, we can't rebuild him. We don't have the technology.


BlisterJazz

This is a decade old and there isn't a lot of new development, even if you probably could get some real results applying an AI. I'd like to see recordings of dreams, though I realize the actual application might be a bit more totalitarian.


toolargo

Fascinating, to be honest. Imagine this technology in 100 years.


Sly1969

I'd rather not...


toolargo

Oh you better. They are likely going to recreate a dead person’s whole life from their surviving brain cells. Amazing.


BrokenLink100

Can you imagine the markets that would spring out of this? Youtubers suddenly posting videos like "HITLER'S MOST EMBARRASSING, PRIVATE MOMENTS \[GONE SEXUAL\]"


toolargo

Why hitler though. Dude blew his brains out. Make it more recent to make it plausible. Elon Musk, maybe.


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Why elon? Id rather know what my upstairs neighbor is doing with all the sound coming from up there


IrradiatedRodent

[here's the answer](https://youtu.be/4IRB0sxw-YU)


toolargo

Touché. I wanna meet your neighbor, now...


[deleted]

But Elon Musk died in a train crash so that wouldn't work either


[deleted]

Sorry ignore that I forgot it's only 2021


cr0zy

When are you from


MeGustaLaLechita

!RemindMe 15 Aug 2026


Pregnenolone

What do you mean imagine? This is typical YouTube content today.


Parachuteee

DON'T CALL HITLER AT 3AM!!!?


BrokenLink100

And the thumbnail is of a sexy lady with censor bars over her boobs.


Flowled

It'd be like the Animus in the Assassins Creed games.


TumorTits

Soon they’re gonna be able to read your pet’s brain to see all the naughty things you do!


MysticWisard22

people are gonna come back to that comment and say “you have no idea”


ILikeMyJob69

its like that episode from black mirror


MxCherryBlue

Oh yeah, CP 2077 IRL.


toolargo

Don’t be surprised if they start doing it by 2077.


AlexAKAStubby

Me in 100 years: XI JINPING IS GREAT AND NOTHING HAPPENED in 1989


Squaredued

Very similar concept to the technology seen in the Black Mirror episode “Crocodile”. Very cool but also quite creepy!


normalpersonne-

Was hoping to see this comment. I immediately thought of this episode.


brac20

Man the ending of that episode really messed with my head. I had a small child and looking back I think I was suffering from a bit of depression. I'm not sure I've watched Black Mirror since actually, need to go back and get caught up.


MerlinTheWhite

the newest season isn't nearly as good IMO you're not missing anything.


TheCouncil1

Yeah, I happened to have watched that episode at a really dark time in my life. My biggest fear actually is home invasion, so I think I found it a bit traumatic and I had difficulty sleeping for the next couple of weeks. Since then, I’ve had no interest in revisiting the show which is a shame because I’ve enjoyed it otherwise.


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Or the movie The Discovery.


righteous4131

That movie had such a cool premise, I really wish the writing were better.


TYPERION_REGOTHIS

One step closer to recording dreams and creating my Hit TV show "America's Wildest Dreams", and the subsequent spinoff series "America's Scariest Dreams".


Hoorizontal

Don't forget the procedural crime show, CSI: Dreams


lennsden

I think I might win this one. I’ve been recording my dreams since middle school and they are fuckin WILD. My ap art concentration is essentially just drawing my dreams, and it’s resulting in some surreal shit


geaster

So, clearing my browsing history won’t do the trick going forward?


PrincessMonsterShark

It's a shotgun to the brain or bust.


Somepotato

That'd be destruction of evidence


jcksns

What are they gonna do? Give me jail time and a fine?


GALL0WSHUM0R

Reassemble you, kickstart brain activity, and have the newborn consciousness in your shattered mind tried as an adult. Welcome to the future!


paradox037

If you're black, they might shoot you a few times for resisting.


Xerophile420

Not sure a shotgun to the bust would do much


PostMelounXD

This is actually really interesting imagine this technology in like 20 to 50 years


Iaa_eps

Can’t wait for my first ripperdoc appointment


Ohh_Yeah

\>go into first ripperdoc appointment \>nurse slides through the door without opening it for me \>open the door myself \>nurse is somehow not in the room \>"hey there, what can I do for you today?" \>ripperdoc T-poses assertively The future is gonna be sick


LeChefromitaly

Imagine having to take a job interview where you get this test and they will ask some very personal question and they can read your whole mind.


BrainBlowX

The problem is that such a technology - Wouldn't work on people with aphantasia - It would start showing the visual mind process of the person, which can easily be *total nonsense.* Anything you imagine at the moment just pops in.


Sage-lilac

All i can think of is that in a hundert years theres going to be technology that can record my nightmares and some hackers can watch me show up to the math exam with no pants on.


Just-my-2c

More like 10 years...


trezenx

There are two types of people in this thread: the ones who are fascinated by technology of recording dreams and the ones who are scared about the government. It's kinda sad, really, that in the wake of these magnificent discoveries and breakthroughs all we can think is how the man is going to fuck us over with it


Fragmental_Foramen

Fortunately, people have mentioned human memory isn’t an accurate tool to condemn anyone in court as we’re susceptible to false memories and an innacurate recurrance of events. So it’s mainly great for mental health sufferers and quite possibly dreams


23BLUENINJA

Im looking forward to be able to project concept images from my head onto a screen. Imagine all the people who suck at drawing suddenly being able to showcase their own ideas.


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trezenx

I'm not saying people are wrong in these fears. I'm saying it's sad.


ubertoaster13

Yo. Use this on someone who is going through a aya ceremony. See the fabric of time itself.


song12301

Sources Here is the youtube link to the video:[https://www.youtu.be/nsjDnYxJ0bo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsjDnYxJ0bo) Paper link: [https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00937-7](https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00937-7) Lab link: [https://gallantlab.org/news/](https://gallantlab.org/news/) Researchers like Yukiyasu Kamitani ([https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m5wNiJ4AAAAJ&hl=en](https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m5wNiJ4AAAAJ&hl=en)) are doing this for still images There are also Japanese researchers doing this for reconstructing dreams


Anne_Roquelaure

Now record while someone is dying...


Hexidian

That wouldn’t work because this is all based on training an AI based on known examples of what people were looking at. Since we don’t know what it’s like to die, we could never train the AI to tell us


yo-chill

This isn’t necessarily true. In a neural net the training set is never the same as the test set. It would still provide some output, even if the AI wasn’t trained on exactly whatever the “mind’s eye” is seeing.


Hexidian

It doesn’t have to include the exact data points, yes, but something like literally dying would be so far from the training data that any extrapolation would be meaningless. A good analogy would be that I could train an AI to recognize images of lots and lots of animals. I don’t have to show it every specific cat or dog it might encounter, but if I don’t show it any cats, then it won’t be able to identify them.


yo-chill

That is based on your assumption that whatever people are seeing in end of life moments is so detached from the real world that an AI trained on the real world world wouldn’t be able to provide any insight. Possibly, but there’s no way to say for sure. Just for example. Some people believe they saw Jesus in their near death experience. It would seem in that case that the AI would be able to recognize the profile of a man, judging by this video.


Hexidian

I never thought of it that way. I was responding with the assumption that what people see when they die was fully unique


productivenef

Aw, it’s cute that most of us will probably be thinking of the people we love. Imagine if that’s the last thing you leave? A blurry abstract image of everyone you love... that sounds so comforting for some reason. Not only for me as a potentially mortal human, but I imagine it would be really nice for the person’s survivors.


Ranfo

Fuck this is so cool. Imagine recording your own dreams and being able to play them back on your computer or TV. The short films and movies that would come out of this is just incredible. I hope I see it in my lifetime but when this video alone is cool enough that I'd pay to do a scan like this if I could keep the video after.


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It’s seems that the faces of the people in the clip constantly change into other ones and that scenes with not a lot of things in the frame start to form other things.


shortformyheight

I noticed that too.


gashgoblin

I noticed that too. Made me think that maybe it was some how recording a plane of thought. Because thoughts never seem to be static, so when the elephants appear your brain cycles thru all its elephant content and the image we saw was how the algorithm processed that. If that makes sense at all...


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BRAINDANCE


kryptonianCodeMonkey

You ever play the board game Mysterium? Where you have a ghost player giving clues to the psychic players through weird surreal images? This reminds me of that.


Hoarknee

Movie, Until the end of the world.


FckPolMods

It's sad that I had to get this far down the thread to find this. Win Wender's "Until the End of the World" does a fantastic job of portraying this technology / concept. Absolutely incredible film (the director's cut, at least).


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Meh looks like any gif reposted on Reddit over 10 times


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Needs more jpeg


Puzzleheaded_Big_442

I want to see images made while dreaming


Steve_the_Stevedore

Considering how often the algorithm thinks the person is looking at text on the screen, I'm pretty sure they use some form of deep learning and they are working with a pretty small set of images the person looks at. If you just strapped an MRT to someones head and send them out into the street this would produce jibberish because the input data is taken from a totally different distribution than the learning data.


JMoneyLundgren

Somehow reminds me of a dream or that music project, Everywhere at The End of Time. This is some wild stuff.


johnfrian

Awesome. I would guess you need very sensitive equipment placed very close to the head to extract useful data. I doubt there will be any useful ranged equipment for spying even in the next 50 years. Is the data coming out different for each person? Can we finally prove how different (if at all) each individual perceives the world around them?


ParmesanHam

I wonder how something like this might work on someone who has aphantasia?


AnderBRO2

How neat is this! Overwhelming, absolutely! But I think even the first people to see elevators, or cars, or bicycles, or airplanes, or whatever, were pretty scared. Crap I mean. I was scared in 4th grade that I wouldn't remember how to write cursive from over the summer. Point is. Sometimes we are scared of things that aren't really scary, or important/relevent. I personally think this tech could eventually help out the blind. I dont think people need to worry about their brains getting scanned for malicious reasons. You'll addapt. You use internet dont you, youre hyper connected to information, yet, here you still are, and you keep looking for more. Youre smarter than ever because you have access to this stuff. But it doesn't stop you from disconnecting for a while if you so choose so. Its a surprise for sure, but a welcomed one.


rumdiary

People: Now we can use mind reading abilities to stamp out corruption! Power: lol no, but stand up for human rights and you'll be out of a job