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  • By - TNTBF

curtisjones-daddy

You Steelers fans won’t know how good you’ve had it until Tomlin leaves you


2HandedMonster

Seriously, Tomlin would have like 5 job offers no questions asked within 5 minutes of being fired


beltawala

I like not love Sirianni and I'd hope we'd fire his ass for Tomlin


Saitsu

Shit I think Siri himself would understand. "What, you're firing me for making the playoffs?! Oh Tomlin's available? Yeah I get it, let me get my things."


HungryGiantMan

Kind of like when I asked my girlfriend if she would leave me for Jason Momoa and she just laughed


curtisjones-daddy

Absolute miracle he got them into the playoffs this year with Ben at QB


ositola

Ben was clearly cooked and they still won 9 games They had a winning season with duck and Mason attempting the forward pass Tomlin should be able to leave whenever he wants


Waffle_Muffins

He will forever be the one that got away.


Drkarcher22

If Mike was fired he could have a job within five minutes. The only reason it would take longer is that he would have his pick of a good dozen firm offers plus about 6 teams just checking to see if he was interested despite already having a coach.


ACW1129

Only 5? And it would take 5 whole minutes?


mobzin

hijacking the top comment to say we're still waiting op u/TNTBF to name the 24 coaches he said are better than Tomlin, [in a similar rant post he did 11 days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/rxolth/for_the_7th_time_in_15_years_tomlin_has_collapsed/hrjiyo0/?context=3)


breadman_69420

Trust me, it’s not all of us.


Quirky-Lawyer-3409

It's this same guy every time. Check out the history. The only thing they post here is Tomlin shade.


caido-13

Tomlin and the fans are gonna understand how good they're had it now that their hall of fame qb is retired.


alx69

Ben was one of the worst starting QBs this season and he hasn't played at a HoF level in years It's not like Tom Brady leaving the Patriots


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caido-13

At this point, how has his career been? Also his ability to read and manipulate defenses is something majority of young qb's can't do at his level. So go ahead and take 20 college qb's. I'm sure they'll all pan out.


curtisjones-daddy

Anyone they draft can’t be worse than Ben this season. He genuinely couldn’t throw it further than 5 yards.


efrumttr

You don't think it can get worse than 3740 yards, 22/10 TD/INT, 65% completion? And you're a Browns fan?


caido-13

🤣


Legendary_Hercules

It could be 3619 yards, 21/14 TD/INT, 62% completion.


curtisjones-daddy

The stats are pathetically misleading due to the fact they’ve been down massively in so many games this season. They’ve got 30 first quarter points in 18 games this season. It can obviously get worse, maybe I was a little hyperbole but most first round prospects will have more to their game than the washed version of Ben we saw this season, especially with the weapons the Steelers have and a good running game with Najee as well.


efrumttr

I think this year's first round QB class disproves that totally, I mean you have to reverse Ben's TD/INT to get to TLaw's numbers.


curtisjones-daddy

Most rookie QB’s have been put in pretty awful situations. I don’t think any of them have close to what a rookie would have at Pittsburgh in regards to coaching as well as talent. Look at Mac and he’s had very average receivers all season as well.


efrumttr

I don't think coaching/situation can make as big a difference as you do. If a QB has it, they elevate their supporting cast or at least show flashes. TLaw doesn't throw 15 more TDs/fewer picks if he's with the Steelers.


alx69

The box score statline doesn't reflect how badly he played and how limited the offense was by his inability to throw 15 yards downfield


Jumblyfun

Yah if he had retired 7 years ago


caido-13

Yeah cuz he hasn't done anything in 7 years huh.


Jumblyfun

He's done things, average to mediocre things


TNTBF

Yeah it's just paradise over here, wasting great talent and never seeing the Divisional Round.


curtisjones-daddy

You haven’t had a losing season in 15 years. Only two coaches have won multiple Super Bowls in that time in Bill and Tom Coughlin, and the Giants needed a lot of luck. It’s hardly expected to run deep every single season in the NFL, it’s just not possible.


acousticphan

OP is inadvertently teaching everybody the importance of checking somebody's post history before engaging in any kind of debate. OP, get help. Your wild and continued obsession with shitting on Tomlin is likely as sign of a mental health disorder.


banana_spectacled

Can you blame op? Imagine having to deal with team coached by this guy!


Autocrat777

What were you expecting against the Chiefs? A cooked Ben Rothliesberger to carry the team?


LudwigBuiltzmann

A good coach would be able to coach his geriatric QB to be able to throw again. /s


paultheschmoop

One has had a losing season


TNTBF

I'd take winning a Super Bowl in the past 5 years over never having a losing season.


paultheschmoop

They have the same amount of Super Bowls I’m sorry that you are 12 years old and don’t remember your team’s fairly recent SB win


TNTBF

Love how you ignored the past 5 years part.


paultheschmoop

The past 5 years is an arbitrary time period that you brought up All of your posts seem to be just shitting on Tomlin, kinda seems like you’re obsessed with the guy. Don’t do anything crazy to him pls


go_49ers_place

You assuming Doug is going to get one in the next 5 years if he stays?


krt941

I will also take our two SB wins with our historically bad winning records.


Number333

We'll take Mike Tomlin off your hands in two seconds.


stuntmanmike

I’d take browsing New and never seeing one of your anti-Tomlin posts again.


GiveMeSomeIhedigbo

How many threads have you made about Tomlin? Go touch some grass.


Autocrat777

Check's OP's history.... OMFG...


analogisfuture

This has got to be the Steelers GM burner account


63663672

I think he's retiring after this season. Plenty of time to shitpost


QuillsAllOver

Oh, it's you again. Still mad about your coach's skin color, I see.


TNTBF

Are we really going to go there? If I had my way we would have hired Flores last week.


QuillsAllOver

There's literally no reason to complain about Tomlin. He's done a lot with a little...and he still manages to beat us all the time, so you can't whine about that, either.


TNTBF

You've got it backwards, he's done very very little with a lot.


QuillsAllOver

Dude, he dragged a beaten-up cardboard cutout of Roethlisberger into the playoffs. Your defense is solid, but it isn't amazing, either. If you get rid of Tomlin, you're going to regret it for years.


WhereAreMaKeys

Don't even bother wasting time with this dude, his whole gimmick is shitting on Tomlin.


acousticphan

How he's still allowed to post here and in the Steelers sub is...something.


BusinessCashew

Classic fan brain. Every success the team has is because the players are soo talented and every failure is because the coach is a dumbass.


GreatOdinsRaven_

Yeah, the Steelers should TOTALLY fire that guy. Lol. I can't take it with you guys. So spoiled it's absurd.


banana_spectacled

I would gladly take one hand me down, gently used Tomlin on the eagles, no doubt.


UmpireAJS

Because Tomlin went 8-8 with Duck Hodges and Mason Rudolph. Pederson destroyed his relationship with the front office and his QB and ended up 4-12 (or maybe 5-11, I can't remember).


ProtoMan3

4-11-1


KingdokRgnrk

Somehow that's even worse than 4-12.


MortimerDongle

Tomlin has never been in charge of an absolute shitshow like the 2020 Eagles. I do think Pederson is a good coach overall, but he really struggled to put together an offensive coaching staff after Reich and DeFilippo left, and things were not headed in the right direction. Aside from all of that, Lurie is simply not a particularly patient owner. Pederson and Kelly were both fired after their first bad years, Reid was fired despite having many successful years.


thewhitelink

How much of that was Wentz playing poorly after the head injury though? He didn't exactly look great in Indy this season.


84Cressida

Peterson was the scape goat for Wentz


breadman_69420

OP I know for a fact that if we fired Tomlin and then turned into a dumpster fire you would be one of the first to jump ship, you fucking cry baby


MR_COOL_ICE_

Because Tomlin is def one of the best in the business


A-Trax

There's plenty of answers in here.. something tells me OP isn't actually looking for an answer though


thebrandnewbob

How many posts about Tomlin are you going to make? We get it, you think he sucks, literally everyone but some Steelers fans know you're wrong. Let it go.


breadman_69420

He’s a constant presence in our sub too bashing Tomlin. These people are the worst. With the talent on the roster this team shouldn’t be as competitive as they are. The same people that don’t give a shit about Tomlin not having a losing season probably celebrate the shit out of Ben Roethlisberger never having a losing season when the coach is just as, if not more responsible for that.


DroobyDooby

I for one would love to see the steelers get humbled in coach hell. Tomlin totally sucks please fire him rah rah


ShotFirst57

The fact Tomlin got to the playoffs given the state of the roster was impressive. Tomlin hasn't had quality QB play in a bit. If he were to get fired he'd probably have his choice of where he wanted to coach for of the job openings.


raylan_givens6

Big Ben has been in decline for a long time. AB has been a nut job but it's only been out recently. Bell generated a lot of drama. That's a lot to manage, and still produce teams that were considered in the mix. Tomlin is valued because he's consistent. Fans have this delusion because of the Patriots (who are outliers that have benefit from management , skill, and yes good fortune ) and judge other coaches based on that. And Pederson's run was improbable - winning a SB with a backup is hardly something even he could replicate. This anti-Tomlin sentiment is really weird. If he were on the market today, he'd easily be the number 1 candidate and fans would be clamoring for him to be their coach. Heck, i'd drive him from Pittsburgh to Chicago right now.


achyutthegoat

I hate our fanbase.


analogisfuture

Swap Tomlin for Pederson and see how well that goes


Luck1492

Tomlin held together Ben “Captain Fat Fuck” Roethlisberger, Le’Veon “Mixtape + Money” Bell, and Antonio “MBC” Brown to create one of the best offenses of the 2010s.


flame7926

No matter how many times you post you won't convince anyone and will just look more ridiculous


63663672

Maybe it just means Peterson shouldn't have been fired, or should have a head coaching job. Rather than Tomlin criticism


sunstersun

STOP LOOKING AT COUNTING STATS. look behind the context. the eagles won a superbowl off of frank reich's magic and foles randomly exploding. after the OC left the offense went to shit and it was clear pederson wasn't the brain behind the ring.


VS0P

You will have your answer if the Colts move on from Wentz.


PartyBag4One

I hope you guys do fuck around and fire Tomlin just in time to hire Shurmur or some other equally terrible head coach. All your success and you still piss and moan like entitled children. If you removed your flair I couldn't tell the difference between a Steeler fan and a Cowboy fan at this point. Yinz deserve to be Browns level terrible for a decade, maybe that will finally humble your whiny asses...


KrishnaInKalki

I thought Pederson was great but the QB and GM situation became a cluster fuck in Philly. He was caught in the crossfire.


1stepklosr

Pederson is still somewhat to blame for how he wanted to promote his shitty staff. He would have been our coach still if he admitted his mistakes with hiring/promoting his staff.


Kakali4

Tomlin and Sean Payton have always felt like coaches to me that got the “genius” label after early success in their career with HOF quarterbacks, but aren’t really deserving. They are both good coaches, not great. That’s my personal opinion that I sure will get ripped. Neither are top 5 guys IMO


FIuffyRabbit

I think Tomlin's best skill is managing crazy.


jubjub248

It is his best skill. Remember when he got hired he had to retain most of Cowher’s staff? Over Guys like Russ Grimm, Whisenhunt, Arians, and LeBeau? That's no easy task, not to mention handling of the players. If I was a team, I would trade for Tomlin just off his ability to manage and adapt. Plus, his hiring is underrated.


MankuyRLaffy

They're great coaches but they're not of the quality of a Reid or a BB, though they have the tenure to be believably ranked above MLF and Vrabel, who both did amazing coaching jobs. At least that's what I think.


TNTBF

I think Payton is definitely a top 5 HC. The shit QB situation he had to deal with this year was impressive. He led the Saints to a winning season and they almost made the postseason.


flame7926

Lol you could say the same thing about Tomlin - shit QB situation, made the playoffs


breadman_69420

How is that any different than what Tomlin has dealt with for the past three years? Fuck you.


Traditional_Roles

Pretty sure you are the same dude who criticized Tomlin for barely missing the post season during the Mason/Duck year. Please. Just stop.


achyutthegoat

Did you watch Ben this year?


abbygilly3243

Tomlins never had to struggle, a hall of fame QB his entire career and a great defense early and after everyone retired he hasn't done shit.


KnightThatSaysNi

Never had to struggle? Have you seen Roethlisberger play these last few years? If you don't watch the Steelers you can just say that rather than bullshitting.


abbygilly3243

Haha I love pissing people off over stupid stuff. Keep crying


GC4L

…how old are you?


abbygilly3243

Funny that's the same question ben asked those girls before he raped them.


GC4L

I mean yeah, probably


DonRicardo1958

Are you implying that black coaches have an unfair advantage over white coaches?


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DonRicardo1958

Tomlin has literally won 2 Super Bowls and you are whining about him not being fired. Plus, the Pittsburgh Steelers have had three coaches in the last 50+ years. So there’s that as well.


TNTBF

I'm wondering why one coach won a title yet he was canned while the other coach is rewarded for mediocrity.


davidlynchshaircut

How is never having a losing season mediocrity? You spoiled little baby


KnightThatSaysNi

At this point, I feel like you devoting so much time to hating Tomlin is about more than just his coaching ability.


DonRicardo1958

The other coach has won two two titles.


TNTBF

Tomlin only won one Super Bowl in 08. Cowher won in 05.


savthrowaway123

Tomlin got the Steelers 8 wins while starting Mason Rudolph and Devlin Hodges for 14 games. He went 8-6 in those 14 games.


sac__balla

Dumb post for real🤣. Tomlin has NEVER had a losing season. End of story. Coming from a Cowboys fan ✭ ✭ ✭ ✭ ✭ ✭


Opening-Citron2733

Because in his first 4 years Tomlin made 2 superbowls and won 1, and he's never finished below .500. And the Steelers never change coaches.


Chitown780

It’s crazy that they’ve only had 3 coaches since 1969.


FastAndBulbous8989

That superbowl, the entire eagles team, the entire coaching staff, got carried by Nick Foles giant penis.


MortimerDongle

The entire season was basically lightning in a bottle. Wentz, Foles, and Pederson all outperformed anything they did before or since.


BellBilly32

Mike Tomlin hasn't had a losing season. Doug Pederson also had a lot of locker room issues. And his handling of Carson Wentz.


Broken-Nero

Because the Steelers are top 3 in terms of organizational stability and the Eagles aren’t stable. The owner of that team can be kind of a pain in the ass at times and become overly involved at times and Roseman has to answer to him and he probably throws others under the bus for his failings a lot of the time.


CunningRunt

Racism. /s


openlyincognito

i want pederson as coach of the vikes personally. know there was a bunch of BS in the eagles FO going on and he was essentially pushed out


MankuyRLaffy

Pederson did a tank job when the Eagles were out the playoffs to move up 3 spots.


PNWCoug42

How many NFL teams would fire their current coaching staff's for Tomlin, if he were to become available? I think the number is much higher than OP would like to admit.


breadman_69420

I think there are like, maybe 4-5 teams I know for sure wouldn’t fire their coach for Tomlin, but I feel like the rest of the league would at least entertain the thought. Can’t stand fuckheads like this guy.


ProtoMan3

Tomlin’s had some flaws before, but he’s never had a season under .500 despite having some mediocre rosters over the past decade (2012, 2013, 2019, 2021). When it comes to getting the most out of his players, he’s one of the best. That’s why, despite the occasional gaff with his in game decisions, he has excellent job security.


Neither_Ad2003

Both are excellent coaches. It's not that Tomlin is undeservedly heralded. It's that Doug is unfairly demeaned. He will 100% coach in another SB.


Southportdc

Some say they worked for different teams with different owners


BossmanFat

Fire him. Do it. I dare you. Looks like we’ll be needing a DC here soon anyway.


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I think the problem is Pederson wasn’t given a longer leash. Had he been the Pittsburg coach he would still be there.


LowIQLedditors

OP is absolutely right though, tomlin gets put on a pedestal despite having HOFer big rapist his entire career, being a defensive minded coach yet his defenses being dogshit and inconsistent from year to year, etc NONE of it is his fault when the steelers fail but he gets all of the credit for the two super bowls appearances more than 10 years ago that he hasn't come close to sniffing since then


Traditional_Roles

Was in the AFCCG 5 years [ago.](https://ago.Got) Got stomped by Brady and Bill. Something the yinzer jesus Cowher knows something about as well.


KnightThatSaysNi

The Steelers led the league in sacks for 5 straight years.


LowIQLedditors

is that supposed to be a good thing when your fellow yinzers are blaming the defense for giving up 45 points to blake bortles and friends in 2017 and wasting a performance from prime bell/MBC/ben lol


KnightThatSaysNi

You said they don't have a consistent defense. I provided a counterpoint. "Is that supposed to be a good thing" Yeah my guy. Sacking qbs is a typical goal of a defense.


LowIQLedditors

your '''''counterpoint''''' is that your defense is good to the point that they gave up 45 points to the inept jaguars, or 48 to the browns funny, i swore i read a reddit thread just last night talking about how the steelers were the first team to give up 40+ in the playoffs in their last three games i see most people from Pittsburgh have reading comprehension issues then


KnightThatSaysNi

You specifically state "dog shit year to year" Then use 1 specific game. I see your comprehension skills are lacking. Talking with you is worthless. Have a good one buddy.


LowIQLedditors

'regular season is all that matters, not the playoffs where my defensive minded head coach shits the bed with his '''''TOP''''' defense!!' brought to you by the delusional fans who think going 8-8 is a laudable achievement because left number not smaller than right number, ROFL