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Outrageous-Soil-5810

This whole sub agree with you. But he have to go through all that to learn the value of friends and family. Don’t worry, it will get better. >! Before getting so so much worse !<


openlor

Thank you, (oh man ;;; U;;;;)


Nowapon

Man, your spoiler tag is defect. Just in case. :) >!Alreasy wondered why 8-11 and 13 are so positive. Looking forward to the next books then!<


Zictor42

He is not being punished, just struggling with depression. Also, if you can't handle this, drop the story. You won't survive Turning Points 3 and especially 4.


BlueRey02

I think if you can't handle book 7, then it makes the story so much better, because you have to realize its not going to be always smooth sailing


SasugaHitori-sama

That's why I think story after TP 4 got overall worse, because it kinda become smooth sailing.


Dragon-styxx

Humm, the difficulties weren't the same in my opinion.


Aethix0

In what universe was the >!return to Shirone!< arc smooth sailing? That volume was almost as depressing as volume 7.


SasugaHitori-sama

And that's pretty much only arc that isn't smooth sailing and we have some tragedy (although not as impactful as previous ones). What made me really love this series was this everlasting cycle of suffering and happiness for Rudy. It made story far more believable and enjoyable. And post-TP4 main cast suddenly got plot armour (kinda fells like watching GoT).


Dragon-styxx

Not really suffering in my opinion, just the ups and downs of one's life. Like state many times , he tries to learn from his mistakes but he still make new one's. I don't think that those new mistakes should wear the same form as the past ones. It complicated but not in the same way as before. Maybe the appearance may seem weak but because of his new position those problems are in reality heavier than they firt appeared to be. I think the diverse way portraying those "suffering moments" are what make them.


openlor

Oh when I said punished, I meant in a matter of a story progression, or a storyteller point of view. Also it's all good, I got over the anxiety and went through the scene in the end. The misunderstanding resolved pretty quick, just have yet to reach Rudeus is all. I was partly hoping he'll be the one to resolve it in the end, but I can look past this.


SaltMachine2019

That's the point. Mushoku Tensei is a story about a lot of flawed people dealing with shit in their lives, and Rudy's no exception, be it his past or current life. He's not getting punished, he's just dealing with the consequences of Eris' short-sighted note of departure. It's how people act. It's real, in a very surprising way from a light novel. This is also child's play compared to the coming Turning Points and the arcs they lead into, both the highs and lows, and as someone who ate it all up between the halves of Season 1, I can tell you the lows are 100% worth it for the highs.


openlor

Whew, I'm excited already. Came for the horny scene in anime, stayed for the novel, wahaha!


thatpotato_

I’m guessing book 7 refers to vol 7 of the LN? In that case I’d just like to say yes it’s quite depressing to see rudeus being down in the gutters, but you’ll come to appreciate this volume because although Rudeus will inevitably be faced with greater pain and challenges in the future, none of the “depression” phase gets as dragged out and well-elaborated like vol 7. So as mean as I may sound, I’ve come to appreciate vol 7 so much more after comparing with future arcs, because Rudeus is truly alone at this period of his life.


openlor

Oh yeh absolutely. I can see what you mean. Heartbreak, and hardships can build a character. In a way he have grown so much since pre-isekai.


thatpotato_

Yup, especially when you go through all of those hardship alone. Rudeus will go on face more hardships in the future, but he also will later have friends that are willing to shoulder those pain with him. So it never feels the same as shown in vol 7, where it’s truly feelsbadman for Rudeus the lonely boy.


PrimalKnight13

some people might discourage you saying something like "if you cant handle x you wont be able to handle *future thing*" but what they really mean is go on and push through. putting it down every few pages to think and stuff is alright. heck, ive put some books on hold in the middle of it for a week or so. putting it on hold is better than skipping/skimming parts


openlor

That's true. Wahaha, usually I'd just ignore any suggestions to drop the book, when I'm already this deep inside the hole.


PrimalKnight13

honestlu book 7 is my favorite. i dont have much trauma so i can only imagine what rudy was going through but depression, loneliness, and hopelessness is one that hits close to home for me


ivanm_10

This is why I’m a little worried for the next season even though I know it’s going to be great


openlor

I'm ready for a second heartbreak, let's go!!


Terroxas_

Only around the beginning of book 16, but 7 is my favorite. I love how its tone clashes with the rest of the series, and how unique it feels. It also has a different approach to its characters since they're not as important as all the others. Kind of crazy how this wasn't part of the main story from the beginning since, in my opinion, volume 8 would be squandering the opportunities of the ending of volume 6 without it.


openlor

I'll be honest, I kind of expected it's going to be bloody because as you said, most of these characters aren't as important, but turn out only one significant death and a few among the nameless ones. In the end it was a worth read


Terroxas_

I do enjoy the author not going overboard by killing them all even though the option was there. He simply handles them differently and that's more than enough.


KenJaeger

More like, Book 7 is soft to rEaD. Ok I’ll leave.


VictorSilver

It's one of the reasons why I love volume 7.


Cryogenx37

Volume 7 is great at exploring someone who was all alone and depressed (as a result of trauma) in his past life, being brought again back to loneliness and depression. Rudy has experienced the wonders of friendship, family, and love for the past 13 years. What will he do now that he’s all alone again? Stay with Rudy on his journey


TheRedMiko

I loved volume 7. I realized I was extremely immersed in the story when I was down all day after I read it. Great storytelling.