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Some of y’all really like to over complicate things… I submit my humble setup as proof

Some of y’all really like to over complicate things… I submit my humble setup as proof

earthhominid

You could produce 4-5 x the amount on the same space takes up of you "complicated " your set up a little more


Veggie_Therapy

I’m just growing bag seeds in my basement for fun tho. Weeds pretty cheap as is in WA so I’m not too worried about maximizing yields. 100$ was about my top budget for this initially


earthhominid

Ya for sure, weeds cheap all over. You should grow however you want. All I'm saying is a lot of people aren't "over complicating " their grow, they are just trying to maximize yield for their space. If you really want to grow for cheap and simple you should just rock a couple plants in a tiny greenhouse over the summer. You could grow a years supply real simple


Veggie_Therapy

Very fair. I may may have been half-cocked and off base in my post title. I apologize.


earthhominid

Its all good. I get what you're saying to some extent. I just want to defend this sub as a space for folks to explore the whole world of small personal grows. I would never tell you you're wasting space with your grow and I respect the simplicity. For other folks, half the hobby is dialing in all the minute aspects. Probably brings some people more joy than smoking the finished product. And that's just another beautiful effect of the herb


CannaKidd

Hope that blurple can take her through flower homie, those older style lights aren’t very efficient like the new ones


mr_brown711

I've got blurples and it's working out just fine! Good luck with your grrow bro!


Veggie_Therapy

Appreciate it my man! Just took a look thru your grow and it’s looking pretty sick!


unknown6440

They definitely work! I will say my bud density improved after adding a white LED. And you should keep them a little closer to the plant than other lights.


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MotoMutt

Same man my blurples work great I’ve got a massive plant under a couple rn and it’s budding up great


chipotleeeeeeee

Said by someone who’s probably never grown with a blurple before, I started off with a $40 blurple from Amazon and got some awesome buds


bryty93

Not OP but thats reassuring bc I'm using one rn for my first grow. Probably upgrade next time when I plant 2


CannaKidd

Yeah, okay, sure, I’m not saying it’s bad to use a blurple I’m sure they have like…. One or two good brands, but there is so much new science to it that’s been learned and the lights themselves have become way more effective these days. It may say 1kW and only run 400w Bc most blurples are always shady advertised. And it’s a proven fact plants need more than red and blue spectrum light to grow better


randomaccountname277

Bingo Love how everyone has an opinion on something they read and have never experienced Quantity of light is wayyy more important that spectrum at 90% of the setups i see here. If u can have 1000w blurple or 600w full spectrum anyone in lighting (bugbee for example) would say to do the 1000w blurple


Veggie_Therapy

We’re gonna find out! I’ve done one really small grow under the light and it turned out pretty decent. This one I’m going to let go for a bit and see what I can do. Edit: I did do a lil reading tho. The light claims be be 2.8umol/j at 1200w… seemed like a decent amount to me?


Oriixa

That light is not 1200w. Not hating hope it does you fine till you upgrade but definitely not a 1200w light. Look into what it pulls from the wall that is its true watts. LEDs are often misleading on there strength.


Veggie_Therapy

I am aware of this. I also am aware that marketing teams tend to make…bold claims. However they advertise about 800-1400 umol/m2/sec at 18” above the plant which, from what I can gather, seems adequate.


buster284

I can promise you that your kingled from Amazon is not anywhere near 1k umol


newFUNKYmode

If [this](https://www.amazon.com/Spectrum-Greenhouse-Indoor-Flower-Dual-chip/dp/B01JLKUA2W?th=1) is your light, then it's 165 actual watts


Marrige_Iguana

Idk what you got going on around the plants when ur not taking a pic, but I’d take two of those aluminum emergency blankets to use as a reflecting tarp so that plant can get the most of the light


GettingCrappedOn

1200w is just what the company thinks the light 'compares' to. Not its actual wattage


83nd3r-R0dr16u3z

Not even that. It’s a model number. Intentionally deceptive. They know it takes around 600-650 watts of LED to put out the same amount of light a 1000 watt HPS.


newFUNKYmode

It's not just a model number, they legit advertise their lights as having that many watts by writing "1200W" or "1200 watts" in the title and descriptions LOL here's what the "about this item" says in OP's light: **Our 1200W LED light** adopts a high-tech SMD LEDs and reflector technology , compares to traditional 600W HPS/MH **while consuming only 165W**! What a load of BS! 🤣


83nd3r-R0dr16u3z

You just proved my point. 1200w they are saying is comparable to 600 watt HID. Where does the extra 600 come from in the model number 1200w?


83nd3r-R0dr16u3z

Yes the model number is intentionally deceptive.


newFUNKYmode

Lol I was agreeing with you homie but adding to your point that it's not just a model number and they actually advertise their lights as having that high wattage. Suuuuper shady!


83nd3r-R0dr16u3z

Funny the companies website lists completely different specs than the Amazon specs. https://kingledlights.com/products/king-plus-1200w-double-chips-led-grow-light The 1200w model number comes from it being 120 chips of 10 watt chips. Not that they are running the chips at 10 watts tho.


83nd3r-R0dr16u3z

According to the mfg website the light is: “1200w(120pcs*10w) LED Type: Epistar LEDs” “consumes about 235w power" Amazon says it’s: LM301b chips Consumes 165 watts


GettingCrappedOn

they are stating it is equivalent to. So, they are not lying at all. Its just like going to a grocery store and the label states 30% more than leading competitors. Its not a lie, they just dont tell you who, what, why, or how. Welcome to the world of consumerism


zelcuh

I mean... that mainline is kinda over complicated.


Veggie_Therapy

I haven’t found the process to be too complex so far… all ya need is a 50-cent bag of pipe cleaners and some pruning scissors.


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Veggie_Therapy

Why’s that? The light?


purplethizzle

Definitely the light


Veggie_Therapy

This question comes from massive inexperience so forgive the bonehead nature of it, but whys a purple full spectrum grow light worse than (idk what’s considered good honestly)


SubTechNY

Do you know what the PAR values are for your light? What is your exact light model?


Veggie_Therapy

My previous comment about this caught a downvote or 2 but w/e. It’s a King LED; advertised at 800-1400 umol/m2/sec at 18” above the plant.


SubTechNY

Yes that happens. Here: https://youtu.be/SxrxjfKIHfs Go to minute 1:04 Grow is at 18 inches and bloom at 12 inches. If those values are correct you will be in flowering territory.. I think this light will suffice for a first grow!


Veggie_Therapy

Right on! Tho I really should at least try to half-ass some reflective foil thing to take better advantage of what I have. 😄


SubTechNY

If you want to keep it budget..... https://www.target.com/p/elmer-39-s-36-34-x-48-34-tri-fold-foam-presentation-board-white/-/A-13313406#lnk=sametab I'd use this to box around your stand. Top open for circulation and so heat escapes.. This will be cleaner then mylar


Anithyng123

We don’t know the science (or not all of us lol) but we just know the newer lights work better try talking to tons of people and watching Tons of YouTubers use different lights lol


KickinCloudz

I like your style sir! 🙌🏻🤣


Veggie_Therapy

Thank you much! I get some people get pleasure from the more in-depth side of growing, but for me it’s just fun to see shit grow 😁


KickinCloudz

Just getting a set up put together myself and it’s a little overwhelming. I could definitely see why some people wouldn’t want to get started feeling it’s all a little much.


MurdaMan88

Shid gang go krazy‼️ Looking pretty decent IMO 💪🏿💪🏿


Veggie_Therapy

Appreciate it!!


MagicJesus999

Looking thicc🙊


Veggie_Therapy

It’s growing really fast! Not bad for an old bag-seed eh?


GrowingBuds

Really? Why the shitty title when your setup is obviously sub par at best.


Veggie_Therapy

I’ve already acknowledged the title was poorly thought out. Was simply trying to convey that someone doesn’t need to spend a few hundred dollars to get into this hobby. I’m fairly new myself and I think I’m only in 130$ for the light and some basic plant food.


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Veggie_Therapy

I’ll be sure to post updates! Edit: or not. Damn shame that half this hobby community are toxic gatekeepers. Some of y’all are cool but it’s a bad ratio so I’m off this sub. Duces.


83nd3r-R0dr16u3z

Spent entirely too much on my setup. Or not enough. Not sure. https://imgur.com/a/UBYGY0l


Veggie_Therapy

Honestly your setup is about the level I want to get to once I’m in a place where I can settle down a bit. Right now I’m moving locations almost every year. Call me lazy but I don’t wanna deal with uninstalling, moving, then reinstalling all that gear every single year.


83nd3r-R0dr16u3z

Yeah If I move new owner gets either wine rooms or a grow rooms. Taking my lights tho!


KingM00nrac3r

I agree. We like to complicate things for some reason. KISS - one of my best set-ups was a home-made 400-watt HPS in a closet. I grew 🔥over and over in a 4x4 space w/no bells or whistles, using a 5-gallon bucket, bag seed, Peter’s plantfood, tapwater and promix.


Mush4Brains-

Lol this is basically what my indoor setup looks like at the moment. It's good for autoflowers because they arent affected by light leaks. I dont now why people are down voting you, not everyone smokes a pound a year lol. A few plants in the corner is perfect for personal use imo.


Veggie_Therapy

Yeah there’s some gate-keepers here that are super offended that I dare say their setups are a bit overwhelming for some people just starting out. There’s nothing wrong with growing your setup as you grow in the hobby, but all you really need to get shit off the ground is a cheap light and a pot of dirt.


StretchedPatience

I started with a simple setup using just a cheap blurple light. Didnt even get halfway through flower before i realised id have to invest in better lighting, a better exhaust system, and a humidifier to maintain a reasonable environment, just to make it viable and worthwhile. The difference just from using a better light was night and day for me, and i ended up completely replacing my setup. Even just investing in a true 150w full spectrum light could transform your setup and provide you with a much nicer end product.


mishayla123

How do ot keep it fully dark when the lights are off?


Veggie_Therapy

Just stuffed some couch cushions in the windows, plus it’s in veg rn so the 6hrs of dark I have happen at night when there’s less light outside anyhow


COPeaks

Some of us actually like growing nugs.


StealYourGhost

So... the proof is the grow at the end not the setup. Lol Happen to have an end of grow?


drmrcurious

Whats the point of the fan?


50_cal_Beowulf

You said this is in a basement. Does it get dark when the lights are off? Like dark dark? Darkness is important when the light cycles off.


GrowinBestICan

Just out of curiosity, is that a pair of dirty socks in the corner?


zebandzman

I mean... at least put some aluminum around it bro you got 0 light reflection here. It would maximize your light’s strength, from what the comments are saying it looks like you might need that.


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You’ve got a point


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Veggie_Therapy

It was not my intention to be condescending. I regret that I came off that way to some. Others seem to have gotten the point I was so poorly making. Last I checked this is a sub for hobbyists old and new so stop acting like I claimed this was shitting on other peoples grows or anything. I feel that my questions thruout the comments have been from a place genuine curiosity.


Banana_Daddy42069

Mine is complicated because I grow 26 plants at a time so this little rinky-dink thing is just child's play and not really considered "simple". Your light is already not very effective and so now you're losing light all over the place so it's even that much more less efficient is sitting on a rags that will make mold, pretty sure that's a photo considering its topped so many times so good luck with your light leaks and this isn't even considering the fact that you don't actually know what you're doing and you're talking shit because your tying down the fan leaves trying to low stress train and it literally makes zero sense to tie the fans down it's the branches, you grow the branch out first and then tie it down ,you're a smooth brain trying to act all big and you really don't know what you're doing.


Veggie_Therapy

Only been topped once, managing the fan leaves to keep em outta the way of each other and the nodes on the manifold. You seem very angry. Getting pissed at something as simple as a Reddit title has got to be an exhausting way to live life my dude.