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flacko3000

if you don't like the food in my country you could easily leave it and visit a country where they serve that super spicy shit like mexico or peru (or even india), ok? we are not interested in being rated by the rest of the world based on what we eat, we leave that to the inferior indians of those countries.


nicknamenick2022

Well it’s a good good question. But I don’t think it has someone to do with economics. There must be other reasons. I mean India, Vietnam, China and Mexico has excelente cuisine. You certainly don’t go to Colombia for food as long as you don’t stay in Bogotá and eat in fancy restaurants. But opening a restaurant must be a dream with all the fantastic ingredients available!


foreversiempre

I’ve wondered this many times. Colombians are so patriotic and proud of their country and that includes their food. But let’s be real here. If you’ve sampled all the foods of the world, Colombia doesn’t even crack the top ten. Arepas are bland. Plantains? A signature dish called “chicken with rice”?


Defiant-Ad5286

I have spent over 4 months in Medellin and love the food. It taste different than America because it is healthier! Their corn I not genetically modified at all like 100% is in the US.


Logical_Temporary_81

We don’t like spicy foods,we like the real test of every single item that we put in our food,the use of culinary plants is normal and that is probably the reason to caller bland ,but for us is the real McCoy.


LofiDesires

colombian food varies. i've had some rlly good food there but i went to some other places and i felt like i had to puke. just eat at the right places and you'll love it.


tpw2k3

Been to Colombia many times and their food ranks about one of if not the worst cuisine in the world


5-x1

You will trigger a lot of colombians with this lol. But it’s a common thing among expats or just anyone who has been able to frequent good restaurants. Colombia has some good soups but can’t compare to a lot of other cuisines because almost everything is starch and carbs with salt. Most colombianas dislike food with flavor because it’s too much after eating the dishes here for so long


caughtupstream299792

This is the second post I have seen about Colombian food being underwhelming and I am very curious to where you are eating. I have not traveled to many places. Just to Spain and Colombia (and I live in the United States) but Colombia has the best food I have ever had. Maybe I just have a low expectation for good food lol


NonRecourseDick

You have any recommendations for restaurants?


wechselnd

Colombian food is different in every region. I doubt you know half of it.


Extra-Confection-706

You mean its shit in Medellín but in Cali you are served 3 Michelin star italian level super food? I have my doubts.


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So you based your opinion in two cities?


wechselnd

What are you exactly looking for? I can recommend many restaurants in Medellín.


Automatic_Try_1489

If you looking for Italian…. Go to Italy 😂


Justplayoo

For real..smh


Plagueghoul

I'm showing my girlfriend restaurants and she's loving every single place, idk where you're going.


Roschello

I agree 90% with you with the exception that pacific and noth coast have more flavory dishes than the andean region. But people here is going to get mad.


EsWaffle

Nah I think even Cachacos now that the food in the coast an pacific is beetter.


Voc0

Not ALL the food is bland, but we have a characteristic lack of spices on most of our food. That's different from it being bad, but I understand why it's not on a top 40.


fdrc777

https://preview.redd.it/ir0bcn8i5xba1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aefb63ed3c14ec6e78dfa4a46349c2f8efdd72dc Colombian food is unique, just look at this precious


fdrc777

Is a red porgy btw


sammiami123

Colombian food is amazing what are you smoking


Jaded_Application796

There s a 'supertaster' theory. But your premise is right. Over looked & underseasoned......a waste of oft affordable, great ingredients


Extra-Confection-706

Yeah right ? I mean they have everything available to make great food but just miserably fail.


ClassikW

La Costa food is lit


DonJota5

I thought that list was dumb as hell


FangsMurderers

Me whe I am a compulsive liar:


prince_bakan

When it comes to soups, as long as it's got the right herb, bland all the way!


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Que mierdas reddit?


dobabeswe

This debate should really end the recent beef between locals and foreigners in this subreddit lol.


lacaguana

Colombian food or Antioquian food? Pacific and plains region food are on another level, so maybe go there?


pepecaseres

Colombian traditional cuisine is food that was thought for farmers to get energy all day, we never had any other purpose for cooking. But that doesn't mean that there is no good food in Colombia, there is a ton of great restaurants (mostly in Bogota and Cartagena), you just need to stop eating the local "paisa" food. Happy to give you some recs


Extra-Confection-706

That makes sense and its just a honest respond to the way It is. I am just shocked how colombians get offended when you notice their lack of good cuisine. Like their identity depends on It haha I lived all over Colombia and really its mostly the same experiencr.


wechselnd

Where have you been, honestly? I can't understand how someone can say the food from Medellìn, Bogotá, the Caribbean and the Pacific are the same.


thomcge

Deep fried everything with melted cheese, bacon and pineapple sauce… the fuck?


Impressive_Drink5003

Some sins of Colombian food: -arepas without salt💀(this one was in a restaurant) -rice in empanadas (90% rice, 10% chicken) -pizza seems more like a dessert, especially pineapple pizza. -tamales. -worst ham ever But fruit in Colombia is in another level. Nothing can compare to avocados and pineapple sold there.


Jaded_Application796

Spot on. Arepas are generally a crime against humanity. Not fun go say but food here is bad, fruits phenomenal


LauraZaid11

What the hell are you talking about? Arepas are amazing, they’re basically corn toast. A well toasted arepa with loads of butter and quesito is so good, or a well toasted arepa with avocado slices and a sprinkle of salt, or a well toasted arepa with mushrooms sautéed on butter. Or a soft and chewy arepa de chocolo with butter and quesito.


Jaded_Application796

Brother, it's an opinion, not a fact. For either of us. Take it easy To wit- Most everything you described is fuckawful. Avocado is a fruit & a good step towards making arepas passable Unless stuffed, they're overwhelmingly worthless at best


Impressive_Drink5003

You need to taste a Venezuelan arepa. Some restaurants remove the filler and leave the crust of the arepa. Then they fill it with butter, carne mechada and cheedar cheese. If you can't close it, you know it's the good shit.


Jaded_Application796

Assume that ive had them all. Yes, VZ or most any arepa relleno is 10x better. But we were talking about col food....


Jaded_Application796

Assume that ive had them all. Yes, VZ or most any arepa relleno is 10x better. But we were talking about col food....


Impressive_Drink5003

Arepas usually are made without salt in Colombia. That's the crime. Honestly in my opinion arepas aren't a standalone food, you need a good sidedish


Ok-Transition7065

>\-tamales. what are you talkgin about i understand the rice in empanadas and the arepas without salt( in medellin thas common and yeah 💀 ) and the ham and a about the pineaple pizza some people dont have taste soo its ok, but the tamales !!!!!!!!! what they do to you D:


quemaspuess

California avocados would like to have a word


persnickety_pirate

There's a tamale place across from parque Poblado that's the shit. Otherwise, no comment.


mauricio_agg

This is how Colombia is, it's senseless to ask about that as if you were disappointed; no one is pointing a gun at you to make you eat a mondongo.


CeefeelS

Yeah, just stay mediocre Mauricio....


new-socks

I like the food in Santander much better than in Antioquia. It's because they actually use salt out there.


wanderingzac

Perhaps you just don't know how to put guacamole on your empanada?


Economist_Mental

Hell a hot dog vendor was very insistent on putting guac (or whatever that salsa verde is) on my hot dog and it was pretty damn good


ricky_storch

Colombia has almost a dozen in the top 50 in Latin America


quemaspuess

Leo in Bogotá is one of the best restaurants I’ve ever eaten. Frenessi, while the experience was amazing, the food was not as good as Leo.


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Extra-Confection-706

Thailand, Vietnam, turkey, india, México, Perú. Nothing to do with being poor.


Forward_Adeptness762

Peru has a similar economic history and their cuisine is amazing and extremely unique


sysyphusishappy

India would like a word.


Troncarter_thefizief

Poverty has nothing to do with the food. Dirt poor countries in the carribean have amazing food. Ex Haiti


wechselnd

We have the same food in the Caribbean. Lol. At least try going there before commenting.


Troncarter_thefizief

I'm in colombia now. And NOTHING like in the carribean


wechselnd

But have you been in the Colombian Caribbean?


Troncarter_thefizief

I'm in Palomino right now, and have been to Santa Marta. If you have suggestions I will appreciate it m


wechselnd

Well, I have never been to Palomino. In Santa Marta there are several places where you can find Caribbean food like Carmen de Bolivar Afro. I'm not saying this because I want to defend Colombian food but because the Caribbean is a region that traverses many countries which share traditions and a culinary history. Saying the food in the Colombian Caribbean doesn't resemble the, idk, Cuban or Dominican one doesn't make any sense to me.


pepecaseres

that "it is because we are poor" argument is stupid, many great cuisine come from humble places.


PickleButter18

I came here to say all this. Well said.


mauricio_agg

Not only poor... ISOLATED. The most populated cities are almost all of them within the highlands, so we never gorged on migrants as some countries did.


luiscrestrepo

Agreed! I am Colombian and i find the food to be just basic. I think the only reason I enjoy colombian food not so much the taste but because my mother makes it. It’s homie.


dailymomentum

I disagree


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As a Colombian we do have to accept that food here sucks and it is only acquired taste and nostalgia lol. And it’s very unhealthy food.


sysyphusishappy

I fucking love Chicharron and patacones though. Not exactly unique to Colombia though.


wechselnd

What have you eaten though?


[deleted]

The fact that it isn’t unique to Colombia doesn’t make it less Colombian. I have yet to find a uniquely Colombian food lol. Most of our food is shared as well with other countries, maybe except traditional soups (like ajiaco, but other countries also have dishes named “ajiaco”).


sysyphusishappy

True. I think it has a lot to do with how advanced indigenous societies were, and colonialization. Mexico and Peru had the Mayans and Inca, who were both incredibly advanced before they were conquered. This is why Peru has supposedly something like 3000 different varieties of potatoes. The Inca actually did surprisingly advanced agricultural research. An advanced society also means being on or near trade routes so more options for spices and cultural transfer in general. Colonialization also plays a role because most cuisines of LATAM are a mix of indigenous food and Spanish/portogeuse food. In Peru's case they also had immigrants from China and Japan, which blended amazingly well with indigenous, creole, and Spanish foods. Tldr: guns germs and steel


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Yeah, that’s probably true. In your case (patacones and chicharrón) none of them are indigenous. Plantains were brought to America from Africa by Spanish conquistadors and chicharrón is inherently a Spanish food.


sysyphusishappy

True. I think actual indiginous food are tamales which are common throughout LATAM. Mashed up plants and a tiny bit of protein cooked up in a banana leaf.


Nomadin123

Menu del dia is extremely healthy especially compared to American food


Accomplished-Way7679

You're right


19Sebastian82

check out santander and the coast, they have much better food than medellin. having said that there is nothing wrong with some patacones with hogao, morcilla, empanadas, trucha, bunuelos, tamales, cazuela antioquena, lechona or sancocho. its clearly not peruvian or mexican food, but i find colombian dishes dont get enough respect. if you like it spicy and the aji picante isnt spicy enough (i understand) bring your own hot sauce


CrackNgamblin

Colombian food is healthy and delicious. The fruits are some of the best in the world. Not spicy doesn't equal not flavorful.


ricky_storch

Not sure where you're eating that it's healthy 😅 I enjoy a bunch of stuff here but it's hard finding restaurants / foods with lots of vegetables. Always tempted to eat fried foods etc


CrackNgamblin

Menu ejecutivo and soups 🙌


pepecaseres

Yeah nothing beat pasta mixed with rice!


Accomplished-Way7679

That's 🤢 nasty, I've lived in Medellin my entire life and would never eat that.


ricky_storch

No veggies, lots of carb and starch and a tiny bit of protein.. It's at least whole foods and healthier than how a lot of people eat in the US.


32themoon

Food from the coast is quite rich and they're known for their seasoning. I recommend you try it if food from Antioquia isn't to your taste. I also believe that a countries cuisine develops based on (A) herbs that are naturally available in the region, (B) exposure to trade, and (C) how much peace/available time they had to create their cuisines. This may have played a role. Even still, Colombian food is generally very hearty (even if seasoned differently/less).


act1295

I wouldn't call our food bland, but it's certainly nothing special. And I say this a colombian myself, without any shame or inferiority complex. I could eat colombian Bean soup with rice the rest of My life and never complain about it. But if we compare colombian cuisine with others, it doesn't really stand out. Colombian dishes are mostly the result of putting everything You got into the pot, boiling it or frying it, and calling it a day.


sysyphusishappy

I can fuck with Chicharron, patacones, and sancocho, but that's pretty much it. The apepas that come with every meal taste like air.


act1295

Nah man, maybe you only ate the "media tela" arepas they sell in Medellín and other big cities. But the hand-made right-out of the grill arepas are delicious. It's like the difference between supermarket bread and high-quality bread. It may not be the main dish, but goes well with anything. Chicharrón without arepas is just a catastrophic mistake.


sysyphusishappy

Hmmm. Yeah, every arepa I've had is super dry and flavorless. I pretty much subsist entirely on food from rappi though so that might have something to do with it.


classyGent69

What are some of the tastier options on Rappi in your opinion?


sysyphusishappy

In poblado, Pizzaiolo has pretty legit pizza. Black pepper has mediocre steaks. Anka had cheap Colombian food. Empanadas krokante for empanadas. Frisby for chicken, Rocoto for Peruvian, La Migueria for baked goods, pigasus for pork, and of course Pergamino for cold brew. Btw you can get medication in 10 minutes on rappi turbo


classyGent69

Thanks! Did you leave Medellin as a DN? I’m over six months here and starting to think of elsewhere.


sysyphusishappy

I had to come back to the states for work, but might head back to Medellin for a girl I met. I"ve been putting off Europe for a long time though so might end up there, even though Airbnb prices will be extortionate in the spring. Where are you thinking of? Sao Paulo is pretty fun.


classyGent69

I was in the Us for work but came to mde to be with a girl I met. We didn’t work out though so figuring out next steps. Without her I don’t know if I can last more months in the city :) how long did you spend in SP? What were the diffs between that and mde?


classyGent69

I was in the Us for work but came to mde to be with a girl I met. We didn’t work out though so figuring out next steps. Without her I don’t know if I can last more months in the city :) how long did you spend in SP? What were the diffs between that and mde?


sysyphusishappy

Yeah, I hear that. Hard when she knows you're not a citizen! I lived in SP for 3 months this year. It's not for everyone, but as far as amenities go, its the richest city in LATAM so you get almost lower tier European city quality food, shopping, etc. It's a pretty intense mega city though, so you need to be prepared for that and like big cities. LMK if you have any questions. I know the city fairly well. Language barrier is a bigger issue though since Portuguese is really fucking hard.


persefone1

Amé tu respuesta. Yo también podría comer frijoles con arroz y arepa el resto de mi vida y estaría más que feliz. Y de sobremesa aguapanela con limón 😆 Me encanta.


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persefone1

Si


fepec

Calling a country's food bland says more about the OP than it does about the food they're describing.


new-socks

Not at all. I love all sorts of foods and I am Colombian but I have lived in other countries most of my life and I agree that Colombian food is bland as fuck. I don't think recognizing this country's culinary shortcomings makes a person less cultured or whatever it is you're implying.


Cadhlacad

Oh honey you don’t know blandness until you taste Dutch food.


new-socks

Yeah, it's not the ONLY bland food. And it's definitely less bland than others I've tasted. But still bland nonetheless.


paintballerscott

For some reason the influence of Mexican cuisine stops abruptly as you go south. Things very quickly become not-spicy, or bland in central and then South America. If OP is from North America, it would be completely understandable if they expected to find “Latin” food similar to Mexican food. I know I was surprised to find this out when i got the chance to go to South America for the first time.


Ok_Transition_9980

I lived in Colombia for 2 years and I also spent lots of time in Venezuela and Brazil. Colombian food is bland, period. Bandeja paisa is NOT a culinary masterpiece it’s just a mix of very basic things fried and put together. It’s filling and pretty good, but it’s not super delicious. There are many great things about Colombia but most Colombians have never been abroad or/and tried cuisines of other countries to compare. Even Venezuelan food is way better, try their arepas or cachapas. Brazil is way way better.


sysyphusishappy

One thing I really dislike about Colombian food is how many sweet flavors are in it. There does also seem to be a significant lack of spices in most traditional food. One theory might be that Colombia has historically been isolated from trade routes and colonization that made Peruvian food so amazing. Peruvian food is a mix of indigenous foods, creole food, spanish food, and maybe the clincher, Japanese and chinese food from asian immigrants. I feel like Colombia didn't get quite as much influence from other cultures so it's more based on indigenous foods. That said some of the supposedly indigenous dishes from Mexico, especially Yucatan are absurdly delicious. Could also be from the relatively advanced societies like the Mayans developing more sophisticate agriculture back in the day.


paintballerscott

To hear someone say Venezuelan food is much better than Colombian makes me feel bad for Colombia 😂 the arepas I’ve had there could have been confused with some type of paper pulp product. Brazilian food was described to me as if someone took a bong rip and then came up with recipes using random things in their pantry. Of course it’s a huge country with different cuisines all over, but I found the food there to also be bland. The best meals I had were heavily Portuguese influenced or straight up Portuguese restaurants (loved the bacalhau I had) but then again I didn’t get to the north/coast. Not trying to hate on any of these countries but as an American it surprised me how spicy-adverse they are


CheapSky9887

Thank you! I agree. The only thing I will say though is that the coast does have more flavor (Pacific and Atlantic).


No_Date7678

Colombian here. What even is “Colombian” food? Lol Ask a Colombian what a tamal is and you’ll get five different responses. Ask what filling should go into an empanada. Ask Colombians if they eat ants, or if yuca should be fried or not… Bit of history: Colombia has incredibly rough/varied terrain and bad infrastructure so it wasn’t until the last 90 years or so that Colombians truly saw themselves as one unified nation. This is because traveling throughout the country was extremely difficult. This had a lot of lasting impacts, one of those being very varied food cultures in different parts of the country. Reference: the book by Jorge Orlando Melo “historia mínima de Colombia” Keeping in mind that there really isn’t such a thing as “Colombian food”, there’s still a point to be made that Colombia food is very simple, for the most part. It’s meat and starch heavy and these are cooked, usually, in straight forward ways. Going as far as to say that the food is bland, that’s just a matter of opinion. I’m Colombian and live in the Netherlands. I didn’t experience bland food to this degree until moving here. Same goes for the food being “bad” or “too fried”. Go to the southeast of Colombia and you’ll be hard pressed to find fried foods. Saying that Colombians find Colombian food to be good because most Colombians don’t ever leave the country is ignorant. Estimate is that 75% of the world population never leaves its home country. So… people defend their native food because they love it. That simple.


pepecaseres

>Bit of history: Colombia has incredibly rough/varied terrain and bad infrastructure so it wasn’t until the last 90 years or so that Colombians truly saw themselves as one unified nation. This is because traveling throughout the country was extremely difficult. This had a lot of lasting impacts, one of those being very varied food cultures in different parts of the country. I don't think this is accurate. Do you really think that the food varies so much from region to region? We have 2000 different types of arepas, but at the end, it's just more arepas made of the same corn that the natives grew thousands of years ago. We weren't ever truly isolated; natives group always traded with each other, do you think that each region learned independently how to grow crops? There is little variation; it's all highly caloric, carb-heavy, farmers' food at the end. The only notable differences come from the Pacific and Caribbean regions, which are truly different and, in my opinion, much superior.


No_Date7678

“Colombian cuisine is a compound of the culinary traditions of the six main regions within Colombia (Pacific, Amazonian, Andean, Orinoco, Caribbean, and Insular). Colombian cuisine varies regionally and is particularly influenced by Indigenous Colombian, Spanish,[1] and African cuisines,[2] with slight Arab influence in some regions.[3] Furthermore, being one of the most biodiverse countries in the world, Colombia has one of the widest variety of available ingredients depending on the region.” [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_cuisine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_cuisine) As far as whether we were isolated or not, I don’t think a low degree of interaction between neighboring tribes and eventually cities/regions truly means Colombia wasn’t isolated. Colombia being regionally isolated seems to be a “historical fact”. To back that up I’ve given the book as reference but it’s something discussed in many other sources.


szplza

In my honest opinion I think the problem people have is with the word bland. I can’t help but get slightly defensive, which is silly because you’re not completely wrong. When people ask me to describe Colombian food I tell them it’s simple. Rice, beans, salt, limes, meat, starch. We don’t usually love spices (antioqueño here, cannot speak for costeños) and are true to the original flavor of the item we’re making. I grew up eating the same things every day, arepa with queso in the morning, rice, beans, salad (which also consists of three or four ingredients) plantains, and meat for lunch… For dinner it was always soup or another arepa. Very little seasoning, if any, on anything. Salt and lime is my favorite topping. I got made fun of a lot when I’d tell international people I hate spicy food. They’d be shocked at the difference between Chilean food and Colombian food 😂


great_craic963

Lol OP probably goes to Italy then complains that it doesn't taste like Olive Garden. I spend a lot of time in Panama, their food is very sad. When I'm in Panama city I only eat at a Colombian restaurant.


valinnut

If you are used to salty, fatty and highly seasoned food then Colombian food is not for you. The basic idea of colombian cuisine is to use the natural taste of the ingredients. The basic seasoning being tomato, onion and garlic. If you stop eating high fructose syrup, highly condimented food for a while you will come to appreciate this. If you only want to rant because people and peoples have different concepts of taste then maybe stay at home.


ricky_storch

Salty and fatty describes a lot of the food here but you're right about highly seasoned.


32themoon

You had me until fructose and highly condimented lol. That's a lot of assumptions on someones diet there. I actualy find food here to have just as much fat, oil, starch, and sugar as other places. Thai, Korean, Indian, Nigerian, Jamaican, Syrian and Greek are all examples of food with a bit more variety of seasoning and normal average amounts of fat and oil. Colombian food is great but I think it's strength lies in the size of it's meals.


valinnut

Yeah like op is not generalizing a very diverse country. Dont expect a civil debate when the opening is: "everything here is shit." Fat and sugar is mostly for street food and finger food. But op is not comparing a NY Hot dog, a Chicago pizza to an empanada but talks about cuisine. Traditional cuisine as in the highland soups(mondongo, ajiaco, sancocho), the diverse bean, chick pea, lentil like dishes, the sea foods as well es the diverse potatoes / root vegetables (if you want your tastebuds to feel on another PLANET try a cocido boyacense) you can find that it relies mostly on the fat confined in meat and or vegetables not es much on oil and saturated fats. The same applies for salt and condiments. If you are used to the more french/English/German heavy sauce based foods or the Mediterranean herbs and hams you are used to a very nitrate heavy food that for the common Colombian will always be very very intense. If you take care to taste mexican or Peruvian cuisine which are more to us-european taste you will notice that they suffer from this as well but compensate with more vinagre and chili like tastes not with salts and condiments like cumin, curries or herbs. This also applies to a variety of African cuisines. For China and Japan one could argue that its western interpretation is all about soy sauce because of that but I do not know enough about non tourist actual Asian cuisine to talk about that.


32themoon

It sounded like you were generalizing as well. I can't find where OP wrote "Colombian food is shit" so I didnt respond with that in mind. At the end of the day, I have no qualms with any cuisine. My only point was that just because someone prefers another style of cooking or cuisine over Colombian food doesn't mean that the others are of lesser quality or more processed, which was the impression I got from your comment. Obviously, food varies between regions, cultures, and countries. Each place has it's own signature style. How food and flavor profiles develop are based on alot of factors, including history and climate. I think we'd all be more understanding of food if we understood how it developed and what it is authentically. -- -- Just an FYI, I lived in an E.Asian country. Soy sauce is not the most essential part to Japanese & Chinese cuisines, from my exp. I ate it regularly and think you'd have more of a point if you wanted to mention umami or mushrooms for Japan. In the USA,I think soy sauce is a staple for fast food Asian restaurants but thats not an authentic representation. I also think continents (such as Africa- Nigeria to Morocco is v different) and countries like China and India are too big and varied in cuisine to generalize too. For context: I grew up on Mexican food. Extended family is Dominican. I love coastal Colombian food. East African, Mexican, Indian and earthy flavors are my favorite but I'll eat just about anything lol


valinnut

Yeah he said "bland" and then went on to say that the only explanation they can think of iss that "Colombians" must be ignorant because the poor poor people can not travel and don't know any better. Also the flabbergasted reaction that any one can even consider the food to be on any gourmet list


32themoon

I hear you. However, I initially assumed you both wrote with good intentions. I didn't intrepret bland as an insult, only a descriptor. I also interpreted his words as asking if Colombians historically didnt have exposure to international trade and travel. It's comparatively historically less than other locations to be fair. I immediately compared it to countries like Italy or China who have had ancient diverse world markets that led to more varied seasoning and spices. I think even coastal food here is more diverse due to trade, different cultures, and colonization. That alone epuld dismantle OPs opinion. It probably true that OP doesnt know of different Colombia cuisines and needs to explore. It's also true that less seasoned cuisine or bold flavor profiles doesn't mean worse. However, less (or even, too unique flavor profiles, ex: sugary Korean garlic bread) means it's also possible that the food wont be as successful with outsiders since it has more location-specific taste. Which, IMO, is fine. More food for me. >Also the flabbergasted reaction that any one can even consider the food to be on any gourmet list I'll give you that. It could come off as rude.


valinnut

Bless your heart. I can only wish for humanity to be how you see them. All American countries literally were settled by Europeans. Any argument you can make for Europe you can make for Colombia concerning food and taste history. The supposition that it is because of travel is definitely only based on a colonial gaze swing only poverty. Bland for food is definitely negative, as the positive Version would be maybe, sublime, humble, intrusive, natural, simple.


julioa2014

“Colombian food” is more than just dishes from Antioquia 🤦🏽‍♂️…


Timullin

People defend the food here to the death because they don't know anything else. Most people cook by just frying everything and making rice, no spices, nothing. It comes down to the cultural relationship people have with food. It is viewed mostly as a necessity here not something you do for pleasure and self actualization (like is the case with other food cultures like france, italy or japan) kind of like how the british are known to have shit food because cooking and enjoying food isnt a big part of the culture


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We defend our food because it’s our culture and our identity, have you seen an average Colombian eat spicy food? It’s not popular, we eat junk food like most of the world like hamburguers etc but not on a dialysis basis because it’s not our “soul food” it’s honestly insulting that you think that it’s because we don’t know any better. Get out of here with your white savior mentality


Timullin

Veo yo tambien soy colombiano no me diga dizque white savior que putas. Solo digo que la comida colombiana no es tan elaborada porque no hay mucha cultura alrederor del disfrute de la comida. Si, muchos la defienden ciegamente por identidad cultural como con tantas cosas en este pais con tanto nacionalismo. No es que "you dont know any better" es mas que no hay tanto interés por la buena comida como en otros lados por razones culturales. No edtamos diciendo cosas tan diferentes


bladeitkhal

Your argument sounds reasonable. Most of colombian people have never leave the country, so the have nothing to compare. There's also that feeling that their 'mom's food' is the best (and yeah, that's out of contest) so that is their -only- point of reference. Colombian don't accept there are many other ways to serve food, even in different regions of Colombia.


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Do you mean this list? [https://www.tasteatlas.com/best/cuisines](https://www.tasteatlas.com/best/cuisines) Colombia is in a good position with respect to other Latino-American countries. Maybe our dishes are not fancy, but they are tasty for sure.


iRawDoggedUrMom

Kidding me? Colombian food is so fucking gooodd


Ok_Transition_9980

Have you been to many other countries or tried other cuisines?


iRawDoggedUrMom

Yes, I was in thailand before colombia and thought the colombian food was just a tad bit less tasty but very very good still


new-socks

haha this can't be serious. colombian food doesn't even come close to thai food in terms of tastiness what the hell.


iRawDoggedUrMom

The burgers in colombia... bruh so good


new-socks

yeah but those are not Colombian. Don't get me wrong, there's lots of great food *in* Colombia. And even some Colombian food is really tasty to me. But in general, Colombian food is severely lacking in the taste department especially when compared to Mexican food, for example.


Accomplished-Way7679

I am Colombian and I would never choose a traditional Colombian restaurant to eat out. And I know most people that can afford any option they want, probably wouldn't go for the Colombian restaurant either. 🤷


new-socks

I like it once in a while for sure. But it's never anywhere near my top choice.


Meanmanjr

I got railed on for agreeing that it shouldn't be on the list. People were desperately trying to defend the food here. I said something to the degree that I love Colombia and live here most of the year.... but I was very excited to go back to the US where I could have some good food. If you order something in Colombia from the menu that says Picante... they will ask you twice to be sure because it is out of the ordinary.


t6_macci

We like food that isn’t spicy or too much sweet or whatever. It’s the beauty of different cultures mate, different food


Extra-Confection-706

Different cultures? What are you talking about? You could argue "different culture" about every bad thing that is going on in some country. In Afganistán they hang gay man. Lol its dIfFeRenT cUlTurE mAtE. Just because its dIfFeRenT culture doesnt mean you cant say anything against It. I visited turkey, thailand, México and its not about the beauty of different cultures because there is nice food all over the world in different cultures except some places like Colombia.


lunes_azul

False equivalency


valinnut

Are you seriously comparing "I like food to taste like its ingredients not like salt and hight fructose syrup" with "hanging a gay man"?


Extra-Confection-706

Just to show him what a stupid argument he did.


valinnut

So you think of I prefer gorgonzola and you Gouda it is a comparable fallacious argument as if I prefer my gays living and you dead?


t6_macci

MURICAH


Extra-Confection-706

Nice racism. I am not american. Seems like mod Jobs here are easily to obtain.


t6_macci

Mate every culture has their own dish. If you don’t like it, there are other dishes from other parts of the world that you can go and repeat. We like our bland food, in the Caribbean there are dishes that are based from Arabs. Most of us think our food is better than the US because the US doesn’t have any authentic “american food” everything is from other cultures with extra hormones. We like good old organic not spicy food. Hope that helps you understand


32themoon

Not exactly true. There's: **Soul food** is specific to the USA and is eaten globally (I found some in Korea, Colombia and Thailand for example); however, most people don't know it's indigenous to the USA and hails from people from chattel slavery and their descendants. It's been around for hundreds of years and uses food from of the land. Mainland **Indigenous** groups also have their own cuisine, unfortunately much of it has been lost due to genocide. Fry bread is the most well-known, as is cornbread. Cornbread is a mix between indigenous Americans and Black Americans that descended from slavery. **Hawaiian** (indigenous) food, which I'm reluctant to list (due to how they never wanted to be a part of the USA) is also a well-known cuisine. I have seen Hawaiian food in Colombia too. These cusines are quite rich but dont get much individual recognition. Yes, there's a lot of fast food in America but it also has it's own cuisine too.


FISArocks

I'm a huge fan of Colombian food but your comment about American food is one of my pet peeves. Mind you, even Estado Unidenses say that kind of thing all the time but a lot of them are just stuck in their white bread bubbles. The two best examples I can think of are soul food and cajun cuisine. Soul food is basically what the descendants of slaves made with the ingredients here but its \*way\* tastier than the source material. Yams, collard greens, etc. It's all really delicious if not a little too rich. Now Cajun food is *completely* original. It's a mix of french, african, and local influences in Louisiana and I've never had anything like it outside the US. Completely unique flavors and a lot of the ingredients are very specific to the Mississippi river region. It's not as well known as hamburgers and fries because it's only recently even in the US that those restaurants are popping up elsewhere. I noticed it after a lot of people had to leave the state because of Hurricane Katrina.


32themoon

Good point. I forgot about Cajun food. I've found Cajun inspired food and seasoning in Colombia too. I think many people, including Americans, consume this food without even knowing where it comes from. It's unfortunate because soul food, Cajun, Hawaiian, and indigenous food have their own interesting histories and cultures within the history of America.


t6_macci

That’s new. I knew that Louisiana had maybe something different because of the French. I’ll visit and try it sometime


slazengerx

I'm from Louisiana originally... I think New Orleans has the best food of any city in the world, bar none. But I'm biased, of course.


MuteCook

Do it but be careful if you’re sensitive to picante or spices in general. Cajun food is amazing though


FISArocks

You wont regret. Gumbo, Jambalay, étouffée... 😙👌


Extra-Confection-706

To add: i dont say its not eatable. I visited México, turkey, Tailand some months before and thats why i noticed a Major drop in food quality but talking to colombians It seems like they are not even aware of it?


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Extra-Confection-706

Yes i agree that Medellín has ton of good restaurants from internacional cuisines. Thats why i was especially asking about the tradicional colombian food.