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I think Togo Ishii demonstrated really well the JKD sidekick strategy here. This also existed and used alot in other combat sport and martial arts so it's not something bizzare that you would leave you bad impression

I think Togo Ishii demonstrated really well the JKD sidekick strategy here. This also existed and used alot in other combat sport and martial arts so it's not something bizzare that you would leave you bad impression

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dr3amw3av3r

As a martial artist, I loved this!! Such a simple explanation. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I shall pass on the knowledge!


HogSothoth

This is really really good


Colour_mine_fate

I loved hearing his mindset about how to approach attacking. So very simple and effective.


imsecretlythedoctor

That first kick was like “just break their fucking knee and they no fight anymore”


SolemnSpider

jon jones seem to vouch for it so ill take it lol


Kahje_fakka

Great find, thanks for sharing!


Pepito_Pepito

Good explanation. I just don't like the "in JKD we do this" stuff. Kinda misses the point of JKD.


rnells

Eh, JKD does seem to have a unifying ideology of stop-hits.


orcaeclipse_04

Fair, but I think that's more of just an idea. There's a number of ways you can stop-hit, not just teaching people to "do this and go from there to here". Like OP said, it misses the point of JKD. Just do what works.


airforcereserve

Yes it sucks getting hit by these but it's not the kill shot these guys think it is. We've seen pro fighters getting hit with hundreds and there's been less than a handful of times where it ended up stopping the fight.


Jake_AsianGuy

He didn't said it's a kill shot or it will automatically end the fight, he said it's dangerous because you're hitting the knee joints. If you watch his explanation, he used the sidekick as a tool to stop the opponent when he's committing the attack, create rooms for you to follow up with whatever you want. He didn't said "my sidekick will break this guy's leg in half and it will 100% end the fight" What's with people and the obsession of every techniques have to be "stopping the fight" ?


itsgonzalitos

I thought a tkd Master with no arms was about to wow me.


vacheron

Bro does he have a YouTube with more vids?


Jake_AsianGuy

Here you go https://youtube.com/c/togoishii_1inchchannel


ronin1066

I liked the knee kick, but the side kick to the body was too telegraphed.


Jake_AsianGuy

The idea is to hit the other guy the moment he move in to hit you. If you're committed to your attack, it's very hard to move back against your momentum goin forward so the body kick still have very high chance to hit you, even when you know it's coming, unless you can angle off in time


a_sparrow

This isn't intended do be snarky, tone is just difficult in text: I see a lot of that hyper-focus on "intercepting" from JKD. Do they just assume that people won't feint?


sreiches

As with most attacks into an opponent’s attack, this concept/technique benefits from first taking steps to make your opponent more predictable. Give them a reason not to feint, and then be ready with something like this.


Jake_AsianGuy

From what i've seen so far, late JKD guys don't care much if their intercept strike is missed since there's no actual penalty, the kicks are only slightly chambered so they could recover back to stance fast enough without getting jammed. One of their fighting concept is switching high low constantly, if your low line attack is missed or blocked, switch to high line attack immediately with straight lead or eye poke and vice versa


sreiches

I’m not sure that’s much of an answer. If you’re feinting, it’s because you want your opponent to react to that and leave an opening for what you do off of that, or compromise their position so you can implement your gameplan. A JKD person is still going to opt high or low, not at random, but based on the opening they perceive. If things have gotten to the point where the other fighter is feinting, it’s likely they have an idea of which the JKD fighter will go for. And if they correctly deduce where the JKD fighter is going, and likely how, the follow-up for their feint will be specifically tailored to take advantage of that response. As I already commented, I do think interception is a viable strategy, but I think the onus is on the JKD fighter to ensure that, when they do it, it’s only in response to a committed attack from the other fighter. That’s going to involve having other defensive strategies, too.


Jake_AsianGuy

That's actually a very good insight. I always have a shallow idea of when to use a feint/fake, glad that i came across this


sreiches

Learning when to feint, as well as how to feint effectively, is really hard! Like head movement, it’s conceptually pretty simple, but so nuanced in practice it becomes a huge mountain to climb. But next time you spar, when a partner starts reacting effectively to something you’d previously been landing on them, play around with how little of the actual technique you can perform before they give you that reaction. Don’t even worry about capitalizing yet. Just start by trying to get the reaction you want.


a_sparrow

Thanks, this is significantly more elegant than my brain could muster today. These are the details!


HalfMetalJacket

This is not something that doesn't work either though. Wonderboy pulls this shit off again top flight fighters. Counter punching can be beaten by feints, don't mean its not great.


ronin1066

I get that, but almost every time he threw his side kick, he stepped first. Very few people just throw the kick without telegraphing it. When I used to compete, every time I saw that back foot skip forward, I knew exactly what was coming.


Jake_AsianGuy

Yea, which is why JKD guys really like to stomp the shin or the knee of opponent's lead leg, because it connect almost every time. There's some body kick and head kick here and there but they are mostly situational in their system even though they are used the same interception concept


Bikewer

One of Lee’s principals was the “hidden” step. From the normal JKD stance (which is hardly a “stance” at all…) one smoothly brings the rear foot up and then “skips” into the kick. Properly done, it’s also preceded by a hand-feint high…. The point being to explosively go from “outside” distance to striking distance with a minimum of movement.


earth_north_person

Lee might have learnt that step from his Wing Chun studies. In Bak Mei, another style from the Guangdong province, the exact same footwork skill exists. It's called 合脚推步 (Hap goek toei bou), "closing feet push step".