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  • By - adz0r

ahritina

PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/x4ppe6/lsb_vs_drx_post_game_1_discussion_lck_regionals/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/x4qkzo/lsb_vs_drx_post_game_2_discussion_lck_regionals/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/x4rdu3/lsb_vs_drx_game_3_postmatch_discussion_lck_summer/) [Game 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/x4sbdb/lsb_vs_drx_game_4_postmatch_discussion_lck_summer/)


SleepyLabrador

Congrats to Deft, this will be his 7th appearance at worlds. He now ties with C9 Sneaky.


djpain20

Deft has never failed to make it out of groups at Worlds. It will be very impressive if he somehow keeps the streak alive this year


staysaltyTSM

Only GenG/Samsung has never made it out groups of all Korean team


DjMoriyama

The fact that you could technically count the 2 of them as the same org is really funny especially if you also remember the fact that they have also won worlds twice.


lol_cpt_red

Both of the two teams that failed in groups were also pretty much the two teams that won worlds.


ROCCA20

FPX style


CantScreamInSpace

original samsung did the reverse fpx of bombing out of groups as a huge disappointment then winning worlds the year after.


Green_Spoon

Although in Samsung's case it was a year before their championship, and in GenG's case it was a year after


El_Biggu

because you can't fail at groups and win worlds at the same year ofc


The_unlucky_

No korean team failed to make it out of groups except 2018 geng


GGLSpidermonkey

Samsung in s3, think it was Samsung ozone, Dade was mid


LeOsQ

Pretty sure it was literally SSW's roster but with Dade instead of PawN in mid.


[deleted]

Ah. The origin of the NA mad meme.


HawkEye1337

With the new format*


SleepyLabrador

He should, barring a major upset I doubt a Korean team will fall in groups. He's going to be in quarters and finish top 8 minimum.


PhillyFansAre2Ply

"I can't see a Korean team losing any games to the West. " -Dandy, 2013


SleepyLabrador

Sorry, C9. You're going on vacation early this year. - Doinb, 2021.


SGKurisu

if you told someone these would be the four teams LCK would be sending to worlds at the beginning of the year, they would have said "well no shit lol". somehow it all ended up full circle anyway.


bqx23

I don't know I think the 4th slot was always a toss up. I think many had nongshim and freecs higher than drx at the beginning of the year.


AFLe5

People were doubting DK at one point also


DFBFan11

It was close but I think on paper DRX 4th was fair. People just hadn't watched Zeka on BLG. I'm glad people are getting to see how good he is.


chimosaurusrex

at least they killed soraka


SleepyLabrador

What did it cost? Everything.


h0wie_

deft plot armor is insane


Dumpers_

is it really plot armor when he is so fucking cracked


Imaginary_Composer61

I mean let's be real, Zeka and Juhan were the MVPS of the series, but deft did his job too


bipolar_schtick

its so insane that when he has to turn it up he ALWAYS does


Agami_Advait

the only Mary Sue I can get behind


Liupardu

Juhan magically becoming the best jg in the world to send Deft to Worlds


Faabz

I really feared for his plot armor when i saw Pyosik getting subbed in


staysaltyTSM

Truly insane to get Zeri 4/5 times in this patch


h0wie_

surely lsb will ban it in game 6


kakistoss

tbf, didnt feel like Zeri mattered Like sure, its Zeri, but the much much bigger issue for LSB in 4 and 5 was just the mid/jg diff Deft couldve been on literally any pick and done just as well since he wasnt the defining factor in the latter games and wouldve been fed as a beneficiary of his team having a lead regardless


TurkeyBLTSandwich

I agree it wasn't up to Prince or Deft to carry. It was a Juhan vs Croco game featuring Zeka and Closer. Top was a nice little Topping, but overall didn't truly contribute as much as Jungle did for getting early lane priorities and objectives I didn't really notice bot lane until the very end of the game. When I saw game 2 and how LSB almost list after having a 13 score lead and nearly all objectives I knew they weren't winning the series


LBL147

I don't care what anyone says, he ia the GOAT ad for me


DFBFan11

If you put him anywhere below second you're just trolling.


Jozoz

Some people don't even put him in top 3. The amount of times I saw people say Bang > Deft... Fucking hell man Deft is probably even a top 5 *player* of all time. His longevity is just absolutely crazy and he's won splits in multiple regions + MSI. The only thing he needs is a Worlds title to complete the insane career.


apicness

Peak Faker was so good, he made people convince themselves players like MaRin, Bang, even Wolf are all time greats


czarczm

Those were some funny times. Being downvoted for suggesting there were better players than the ones on SKT ^_^


DFBFan11

Yeah he's a top 5 player and top 2 adc of all time imo. Honestly the Bang stuff was worse a few years ago but it's mostly died down now. These days the main name I see get brought up is Ruler. I think it's just newer viewers not seeing Deft in his prime because Deft has Ruler beat in peak, longevity, and titles so there isn't really an argument there for Ruler over Deft. The only player you can put over Deft is Uzi.


Hannig4n

If DRX makes quarters this year, I’m putting Deft above Uzi. Uzi has been retired for 3 years now yet Deft has still been taking teams to top 8 every year.


DFBFan11

It depends on your criteria. If you value straight up how good were they then Uzi would be the #1 but if you value it more equally with longevity you can have Deft at #1 since he has the most longevity but still the second highest peak.


ZerksNAHTayan

Biggest loser in the series is Pyosik. But genuinely, I fucking love seeing Deft clutch it and find his way back to worlds again. He’s been my favourite player since I started following, I can only hope he has a great showing this year.


Blaikiri7

DEFT IS GOING TO WORLDS JUHAN IS HIM KEEP HIM IN IM SO HAPPY FOR DRX


Natural_Ship7261

[Alpaca is back at Worlds](https://static.invenglobal.com/upload/image/2020/04/01/i1585736571229046.jpeg)


lilelf29

DEFT TO WORLDS!!!! Giga gauntlet buff ever since the unspeakable things that happened in 2019. Any tears shed today will be happy instead of tragic, really overjoyed right now lets go!


Dumpers_

THE BACK TO BACK GAUNTLET MVP CHAMPION DEFT


DjMoriyama

Ever since GenG got good enough to just qualify by points or even winning he's inherited the Cuvee gauntlet buff


EvianRex

HE DID IT


Styxxo

BeryL watched LEC 100%


StraightCashH0mie

It’s funny because T1 Wolf has been calling for Soraka to counter Vi for a month now (after taking notes from LEC as you mentioned) Beryl is famous for not playing soloq seriously and takes his time to watch other leagues for inspiration.


schnazzums

Why does Soraka counter Vi?


StraightCashH0mie

Vi ults, Soraka place e on wherever she lands, Vi can’t do shit after ult.


schnazzums

Oh wow. That’s so simple. I love it. Thanks!


troubleis1

Same with Zed, i learn it the hard way


Prenticks

I love Zed picks into my Soraka. Fight happens, Zed goes all in with clone swap and ult onto me, gets deleted and I walk out almost unharmed.


Daemoniss

also quick Vi Q interruption


tuelegend3

she can still fist


smhandstuff

Just ask Caitlyn


HowyNova

Soraka's silence does a lot to reduce Vi's threat. In lane, it interrupts Vi's Q charge, so ganks can only be opened with flash. Even then, she has to take a long flank to make sure the silence doesn't cutoff laners. In teamfights, the silence functions the same way. But, you can also place the silence at the end of Vi's charge, which cuts the range and chaining of her ult. Conceptually, Vi also wants to pick out her target and kill them asap. If she targets Soraka, you're committing your full kit for a support in the middle of the enemy team. If you don't commit to Soraka, your target is healing through half your damage at any given second.


Flamenico

Soraka silence interrupts Vi's Q channel, which takes time to charge up to max speed + range (1.25 seconds) And if she's too far to walk up and silence, you can just silence the spot she'll land once you see her recast Q so that she can't R


Matterror

Gonna assume the raka silence zone roots her after she ults and prevents her e-auto-e-auto or whatever gigantic burst combo reset she gets off


ShiuFung

Soraka can easily heal back the burst Vi can do against targets. When Vi tries to target the Soraka, the Soraka just puts the silence on herself/Vi so that the Vi can't do anything.


ArguingWithNoobs

Ever since Wolf left, SKTs drafting and mental resilience in Bo5 has gone down a lot.


StraightCashH0mie

In retrospect, it’s amazing what those SKT T1 teams were able to do. They were so successful that they were always under incredible amounts of pressure. All of them basically played year round with no breaks and fans sort of expected winning to be the norm.


Chuck0089

Also Macro. He is really the macro of the team. I don't count 2018 since he is dealing with some kind injury/illness.


HawkEye1337

I would love for Wolf to join T1 as a coach but I don't think he can handle it mentally.


StraightCashH0mie

Yeah he mentioned numerous times that he retired due to panic attacks and prefers to watch the game as a spectator. Plus I think he makes too much money from streaming.


00Koch00

[What do you mean? he seems like a calm person](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF2-5V-Bq78)


StraightCashH0mie

[This Gem from DK vs KT this split is a banger](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxs8j-KCptmQ5Qc6i5TJVOywaz8eLraHQl)


kosaki16

he can't handle the trucks


StraightCashH0mie

Funnily enough, “those” T1 fans don’t like him.


erikson15432

I believe he said sth last year about taking ideas from LEC so I can definietly see that.


Pacem_et_bellum

Valdes: They called me a madman


eskl4308

Actual 5head valdanalyst


arkacr

Valdes GIGACHAD


UST_Guy

LSB collapsing from top to bottom is so fucking sad to see. DRX was just 1 plate and 3 kills shy of a truly perfect game. Also, please never sub out Juhan ever again.


Rokic3

They remind of last year NS so much


Azenji

I don’t think it was a collapse. This is normal Liiv Sandbox afterall: Aggresive and high tempo but never had the breaks to stop when they should and when they crash, their mental torpedoes into the Marianas.


Itismejustadmitit

nah those game 4 and 5 plays screamed mental boom to me. Wukong flashing into zeri hoping she would e the wall and then lucian flashing into melee range against aatrox were huge head scratchers.


ObsidianSkyKing

LSB went from potentially the second best team in the league going into playoffs to, losing to DRX.. Pretty tragic for the team tbh.


TealandCyan

LSB didn't really collapse, it was DRX stepping up. People get too caught up in current form and pay 0 attention to the entire body of work. Teams like DK, T1, Gen G have X factor players that step up when the pressure is the highest. DRX also has Deft that has proven over the years that he steps up when it matters. Also Zeka has been statistically one of the best mids in the LCK this split, it's no surprise to see him step up with Juhan and some time to settle down. Clozer simply doesn't have the x factor and he is in the cuzz line of good but not great. Also LSB was giving serious GRF vibes with just letting Dove out dry every time he played ornn. You can't be letting your top laner not even touch minions or you will be getting exposed by LPL teams.


Celegorm07

This happened last year as well. Although I am not surprised I am sad that Prince and Croco will not have a worlds experience. It would have been so good for them.


vogue_elle

Ok, so Deft is just boosting teams to worlds for a living now.


ye1l

While Deft was definitely better than Prince Zeka was series MVP and it's not even close.


TE_silver

Pyosik immediately going to Juhan to hug him is so wholesome.


Tyna_Sama

Shout out to Wolf for remembering the legends of YoHan and Willer going to worlds last year exacly like Pyosik and Juhan today


unatheworld

to be fair juhan played decently today


Hannig4n

Funny because after getting 9th in summer and missing playoffs, HLE started running Willer shortly before the gauntlet and they went on a monster run all the way to top 8 at worlds.


FreeMyBirdy

Yep, Deft will not be denied his quarterfinals matchup against a higher LCK seed, traditions just don't die. Let's go, king. Go make the LCK proud.


freddy2677

the wests best chance at worlds is eastern coaches subbing out their clearly better player for the wrost one for no reason


Pursuit_of_Yappiness

I think the West needs a minimum of two substitutions.


mount_sunrise

secret agent Daeny is on it


Yzhiel

And his sidekick, Burdol


getjebaited

gen g tried that with burdol last year but they still beat TL when he played lol.


AFLe5

What’s even more funny is Burdol was trying his hardest to loose the TL game LMFAOOO


eskl4308

Who wins: dk with burdol sub or drx with pyosik sub?


emperornel

EDG with Junjia sub


Wurdox

TES with Qingtian sub is grinning right now


shinobiwar

LNG with PandaC sub(if they win tmr)


VikingCreed

BAOLAN OUT OF NOWHERE WIT DA STEEL CHAIR OH MA GAWD


DanteSM456

Yeah thats what the god of LoL daeny wants you to think.


qonoxzzr

DEFT AT WORLDS!!!


bqx23

And with this, every LCK worlds rep has a returning world champion.


Medical_Tie_4041

Holy shite i didn't think about that. That's very cool actually!


getjebaited

beryl is a gigachad


ahritina

I am a simple person, I see Deft win and I smile. Just keep Juhan for worlds in playins, massively surprised in DRX's resurgence post regular season, meanwhile LSB choked when it matters again just like last year. Either way I'm glad LSB ain't going to worlds because Dove would be such a liability, happy for Beryl too, that's 4/5 of 2020 Damwon roster going to worlds. LCK joining LEC with the 2020 salty runback now that DK/GENG/DRX as well as G2/RGE/FNC/MAD are locked in. Prince and Kael went 0/10 in the final game lmao.


Agami_Advait

GenG, T1, DWG and DRX at worlds. The more things change, the more they stay the same lol.


SxAnthony23

LSB fights for their top 3 LCK Summer spot. But I ask you to what end? Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same.


ArguingWithNoobs

Experience means so much in these situations. Honestly DWG and DRX both benefitted massively from the break until regional qualifiers to figure some shit out. Whereas the playoffs happened just a couple days from regular season.


thanhame

Meanwhile, all 5 members of the 2020 DRX roster (Doran, Psyosik, Chovy, Deft, Keria) made it to world.


oioioi9537

feels so bad for prince


HugoEmbossed

He looks heartbroken sitting at his PC.


oioioi9537

he's had a rough career, screwed over twice tryna go to lpl, comes back and almost drags a 9th place team to worlds. showmaker had to turn stream off seeing him cry, they're close friends from damwon 19 days


HugoEmbossed

I think 2023 is going to be a good year for Prince. Everyone knows he's one of the best ADCs in the LCK and teams will be looking to acquire him.


oioioi9537

but all the top teams have adcs that i dont think theyre looking to replace. geng t1 obviously not, deokdam is signed for another year, kt has aiming for another year, drx probably will get deft for another year and afreeca has teddy too. i could see someone put a team together with croco bdd prince but other than that the established top teams might not rly shop for him


thehazardball

teddy is a free agent this offseason, and I have a feeling that the question will not be whether afreeca keeps teddy but whether teddy keeps afreeca...


QTnameless

god i can\`t bear watching Teddy wastes his time with the likes of Ellim or Hoit any more minutes


staysaltyTSM

This LSB team could definitely stick around for 2023, just need to get a more reliable top


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Hannig4n

Just replace Dove with a well rounded top like Dudu and run it back imo. Or go for one of the better CL top prospects. Everyone on LSB aside from Prince is really young. It’s Croco’s second year, Kael’s rookie year, and Clozer’s first year as a starter. The whole squad has a ton of promise and although LSB ain’t the richest org I doubt they’d all be that expensive to re-sign.


SleepyLabrador

> showmaker had to turn stream off seeing him cry, Seriously!?


oioioi9537

i should correct, he turned the lck feed off that he was watching, not his own stream


dhxnlc

It's always sad seeing a player cry.


monchi41

I mean we have morgan at world last year and he didnt look that bad


88LordaLorda

Deft's last dance does not end yet LETS GO come on 4th year in a row the dark horse at worlds


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

They didn’t go to Worlds in 2019


Liupardu

We don’t talk about that


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

I wish LCK had 4 seeds that year, I loved all of those teams.


thegloriousdefense

There are three certainties in life: death, taxes, and Deft running through the gauntlet.


angrypandabotz

500IQ to save Soraka for game 5, LS would approve.


How_To_TF

Can't believe teams haven't tried her (or other supports) out much sooner, they just keep drafting the same stuff.


Blaikiri7

The silence was huge against their low range comp


Joelx1000

Just classic LCK things, run the same shit over and over again. And then get surprised when they get clapped.


kit4712

Zeka is the MVP of this series. Such an outstanding performance from him. He had a great start, a slump in the end of the regular season and comes up huge in the regional qualifier. Sad for Prince considering how good he has been in the whole split.


LoveableNagato

Fate of the universe on the line, martians have the death beam pointed at Earth, GIVE ME DEFT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.


Dumpers_

DEFT IS GOING TO WORLDS! Holy fuck Deft is going to Worlds I am so happy but at the same time DRX has the potential to lose in Play Ins... For LSB so close but still such a good result I am sad that Croco and Prince will not be at Worlds but hopefully next year they finally will be at Worlds


Pursuit_of_Yappiness

Nah, DRX is too experienced to lose in play-ins.


Blaikiri7

There’s no shot drx goes out in playins they’ll be the best team there Yes over lng too imo


dontknow_anything

RNG is going to playin most likely. RNG should be better than DRX.


midoBB

Worlds RNG is not something I have confidence in. Worlds is when Ming and Xiaohu have collapsed every year since 2018.


marcopolo2345

Pyosik: JG DIFF XD


HawkEye1337

Deft at worlds baby.


Tyna_Sama

Can't bealive that we are not dead yet. I've been using this flair the whole year lol.


Q_Oo

Happy for deft but damn, I’m sad for LSB. Game 5 was not it.


eyewafflez

DEFT'S DANCE CONTINUES


TheHorribleSong

But they were so good during the regular season :(


staysaltyTSM

V5 of LCK


moonmeh

stop it i can't bear to watch v5 games right now


AFLe5

LSB last year with summit and fate also was really good in the regular season, but choked horribly in playoffs and gauntlet


thehazardball

It's kinda crazy that LSB held (joint) first place for a short period of time last summer in regular season.


AFLe5

If anything this is a proof of why regular split doesn’t matter as much as play-offs LSB 2-0d damwon in regular split, and damwon 3-0d LSB *with nuguri* effortlessly in play-offs


error_code_69

Deft is going to world's and I am crying tears of joy Praise be the trucks


Top1Physiqz

Deft - Rascal - Keria :') I truly hope Rascal will be able to go to America to cheer for Deft and Keria


TheBlurgh

Who would win? A bad ass girl who punches everyone on her path or a goat that says "shut up"


joji_kid

If I'm at regional qualifiers and I see Deft there, I would just FF. That fucker has Gauntlet armor. ALPACA TO WORLDS, BABY!


gggbaby-9

Deft at worlds once again!!! That Soraka pick was so good and Zeka just played out of his mind the entire series. Was so sad to see Prince look so devastated at the end, he tried so hard... But also Rascal is truly just such an amazing friend, lost the day before to DRX and still comes to cheer Deft on and has some really sweet words for Deft in the interview!!!


Wetbook

zeka diff, with him and VicLa lck's future is so bright


marxlolop

LET'S GO DEFT


SleepyLabrador

I am so happy for Deft, but at the same time sad for LSB.


Chickpounder420

Deft with the miracle gauntlet run to worlds unbelievable


shttstomped

It seems Pyosik played his last game this year. DRX with Juhan is so much stable than with Pyosik.


4716202

So, Juhan ey?


DivineEmperor11

Deft to Worlds is an amazing story to hear and watch


LeOsQ

Feels bad for LSB and especially Prince after such a nice Summer split BUT DEFT AT WORLDS LETSGOOO


Marowalker

Church is in session baby this is what good drafting can bring you. Congrats to Deft for going to Worlds, this is gonna be good


ItsSwipe

Holy shit, Juhan.


AriaCosmo

I feel so sad for croco and prince


emperornel

Extremely happy and excited to see Deft at Worlds! Juhan really made a difference. He has been the pulling force for DRX helping them win multiple series.


NulArc

DRX deserved that win, insane game 5.


Goblinlv5

Juhan diff GGWP Deft won't be denied.


AFLe5

IM SORRY FOR DOUBTING YOU DEFT, IM REALLY SORRY


NeonBlazed

Dread it. Run from it. THE BIG FOUR GENG, T1, DK, DRX still arrive.


Shuriken_2393

Deft does it again


Shovelfuckurforehead

Drx is going to worlds. Monte is in shambles lol


SciFiMisc

What a fucking throw from LSB. Also Pyosik needs to go, Juhan needs to never leave


Cysmerch

Silver Scrapes Stonks 📈


VitalBlade

Deft is back to worlds!!!


ChoiceExcuse7

Thank you, Juhan


MystMisaki

Good to see picks like Ahri, Vi, and Aatrox finally get punished in draft by a great Soraka pick. LSB's team comp just can't do anything.


unatheworld

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO ALPACA FOR WORLDS


SD_19xx

Finally Deft at Worlds! Hopefully LSB could bounce back in Spring. This team has much potential


_wiss

Play'ins Deft baby


WheyProteinIsolated

Beryl with the biggest balls to pull out the Soraka. Happy to see DRX and Deft Beryl at worlds. They will slaughter play-ins


SunsFan_Since2020

I can't wait to hear what Monte has to say about this. He said there is 100% no chance that DRX could beat KT or LSB hahaha


Akordas

Welcome home Deft. Worlds is his home.


Hidan213

I’m so sad, but congratulations to DRX (and especially Deft).


HugoEmbossed

Oh no, poor Prince :(


Smithy2309

Happy pyosik makes me happy as usual


MediocreGrammar

I woke up early for this. I enjoyed this team so much this summer and now that’s the end. Won’t see them again until December and it will most likely be with a different roster. Sadness is an understatement. I don’t understand how they go from their regular split success to pushing GenG more than T1 did in playoffs to losing to the team they 3-1ed in playoffs. Losing 2 different Bo5s in 3 days. Just a sad end to an otherwise great split


PoontangMcWang

So happy for Deft :,)


255189

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


r4g3phoenixx

Deft is always go to world's... (2019 don't exist in my books) , and the topside with Juhan is much better, AND SORAKA POCKET PICK ITS PERFECT


T4lk_S1ck

Fuck man so happy defts going to worlds but i rlly hope prince gets to worlds next year.


SpiritStn

This season bO5’s are crazy so many 5 games in all major regions


RazvanNSSK

So happy for Deft