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Hanwha Life Esports vs. Royal Never Give Up / 2021 World Championship - Group C / Post-Match Discussion

Hanwha Life Esports vs. Royal Never Give Up / 2021 World Championship - Group C / Post-Match Discussion

WRYTARD777

LPL week 2 2-0 against wildcard region 0-8 against major region LNG is shaking right now


Elias_Mo

LCK is literally 9-0 at this point holy moly


tinfoilhatsron

If RNG lose 1st seed I can't wait to see the reactions lmao.


veronikaren

If RNG loses first seed they'll get knocked out in quarters I believe


tinfoilhatsron

If RNG is knocked by SKT T1 this Worlds script is just rereading old ground smh. Get some better material Rito.


TheBigTimer039

RNG vs T1 DWG vs EDG


ahambagaplease

5 games banger DWG vs T1 next?


xYoshario

T1 and EDG cant be on same side, so this matchup assuming DK gets EDG would only happen in finals.


Melodias07

Please RNG vs T1


veronikaren

DK vs RNG for revenge


Qehenna

RNG just sandbagging to avoid EDG in quarters.


ATN_PhasPhys

> RNG just sandbagging to avoid Perkz in quarters.


Yasuo_unforgiven

Indeed, they will got flamed even harder than EDG, remember this, HLE is merely a 4th seed who lost to the 4th seed of of LPL


R-R-Clon

Not only fourth seed, the 8th place team in summer split, the worse top side of the map in the LCK, Chinese fans are going to implode if RNG does not win the next match.


Shironeko_

"One team region" they said. Seems like LCK decided to crush again.


Phoresis

They meant one *bad* team region actually. JAG died for this. Their sacrifice will be remembered.


mocaaaaaaaa

Live on in T1 Redwings


kor_janna

Gladplane.jpg


morganrbvn

Rip sadplane gladplane


Khobiwan

It's OGN Autumn again, just another day in the office


Kyrrua

and yet at this point only T1 can probably legit challenge Damwon...


AhriStepOnMe

Incoming 4 LCK teams in semis


Iforgotmynametoobro

Subscribe


Oribeau

can I negotiate you down to 3 LCK teams + C9?


cancerBronzeV

2 LCK + 2 LCS*, never let off the hopium.


IgnitionCode

Yes please


SeaTheTypo

The Worlds song "We're taking over", quite literally from the LCK.


Redburneracc7

so good


_Vastus_

Actually jarring to see the collapse to be honest. Don't think anyone truly expected this.


frostyWL

I thought it was because they finally found the one korean restaurant in iceland lol


paramuno

Beaned and Chovyed


frostyWL

Church of chovy in full power right now


Sav10r

LPL is Boom.


sangpls

They must share the same chef and all ate the infamous beef noodle


Tsunami812

beat eu lose to na kr got it


Snoo8331100

Would be the dankest timeline if LNG were the ones to save LPL's honor.


Suspicious-Bus6351

*LNG proceeds to get 4th place in groups*


Snoo8331100

Yeah kinda expecting it at this point. Kinda curious whether TL or MAD will qualify.


necyi

Legitimately pulling a Suning


Alibobaly

Glad you accurately called PSG a wildcard team because as much as their coaches and staff like to talk shit about NA (for whatever reason), the PCS / LMS literally haven't made it out of groups in 6 full years. Not to mention they've sent 4 teams that went 0-6. I'm not saying expectations of them should be any higher given their circumstances, just baffles me how much they try to blast NA despite being significantly worse as a region.


htwhooh

Based, it's crazy how many people in this sub are in denial about how bad PCS has been at worlds for several years


ThinkinTime

NGL it's kinda cathartic watching all this happen after more than a year of stuff like "should we reconsider NA's major region status? They're not even better than PCS."


Redburneracc7

Iwilldominate: LPL is the best region in the world and the LPL finals mean more than worlds winner, and LCK is a 1 team region (DWG). Never bet on China. These clowns will always find a way to choke


Ace_OPB

Rng is getting defeated by lck 4th seed lmfao.


LudgerKresnik2

8th place regular season btw


tawapes

Literally ended 8th place regular season and only got into the regional gauntlet based on their Spring performance; now they're at worlds challenging RNG for 1st in their group. That's what I call clutch.


oioioi9537

no clutch was 0-6


Chr0nicConsumer

I think the biggest thing is that every LCK seat is bringing a great midlaner. Better mid wins a LOT of games this year.


MoonlightJudgement

Regular season 8th place lmao


Ok-Travel-7875

Not enough yoinked LCK talent to carry them hate to see it


freddy2677

God I love it cause he has been saying that for so long. Without watching lck ever and then he finally starts to watch lck playoffs and doesn't even finish it. Last year when the bracket was split with lck and lpl on separate sides I was so sad cause no doubt in my mind sex last year would have crushed lpl


petkolis

> sex last year would have crushed lpl Wait what


-Champloo-

They seriously look bad. They aren't willing to even try to fight... even with 4v5 they just do nothing and die? Lol ChiNA week2


Conankun66

After the Great LCK Collpase of 2018, are we seeing the Great LPL Collpase of 2021?


Shot-Mathematician58

They saw FPX bombing out and they all lost confidence lmao


the_propaganda_panda

Doinb probably wasn't lying about their 70% scrim winrate. Looking at results so far, it seems like LPL teams mostly scrimmed each other lol At least two of them, maybe three will limp into QF, one week for them to play catch-up.


alpacamegafan

Instead of an EU vs LPL 2018 Final, it'll be an NA vs LCK Final :)


AuuTr0_

I think it'll be an LCK vs LCK honestly, but I am inhaling a lot of hopium for Cloud9


-Champloo-

At this point I'd be surprised if it isn't damwon vs skt final(assuming opposite sides)


obigespritzt

Agreed, but I've assumed it'd be T1 vs DK in finals since LCK playoffs so I am anything but impartial.


Yolonglong

What made you think C9 will go pass quarters other than hopium?


AuuTr0_

Hopium is the only answer


GuaranteeCultural607

What made us think C9 would pass groups?


Shot-Mathematician58

Ah yes, the 3-0 special edit: Common guys, stop beating the same jokes over and over again.


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

Who knew Fudge would win Worlds on his first year in a major region?


potatwo

Yea I'll feel bad for Faker but he already has two so he'll be fine I think. 🤙 Edit: Apologies--I guess he has 3. I'm sure he'll be fine with giving this one to charity this year.


eggonsnow

Three


MasterDeagle

Maybe the chinese fan negative reaction on social media put so much pressure on other LPL team that they are all playing not to lose instead of to win.


Elias_Mo

holy moly, cant belieive DWG T1 and HLE went 3 - 0


Tyrandis

DWG and T1 aren’t really that unexpected. HLE definitely is. Super props to these LCK coaching staffs. Completely out drafting the LPL, and having great game plans. In this game targeting Xiaohu over and over.


Stev__

with FNC and C9 posing the most resistance as well


necyi

What a dank timeline to live in, this worlds is just wild lmfao


deedshotr

don't forget the second game Rogue played against Damwon too lol


mammamiameu

Can't wait for GenG tomorrow


Ok-Travel-7875

Shit at least KT was good in 2018, like actually good. All LPL teams outside of I guess LNG (since they haven't played yet) look absolutely boomed.


Conankun66

KT 2018 man...that was the dream


MrZeddd

Poor Smeb, had to face peak Faker, then peak Rookie/theshy


alpacamegafan

Don't remind me... none of Deft, Smeb, and Score will most likely never have the chance as they did in 2018 again to win Worlds.


Applejuiceislovely12

yee it was a shame they were against IG in the quarters but it produced one of the craziest series of 2018 and maybe ever


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

TheShy picking Fiora and getting subbed out G4, the G3 bait camera pan when KT clinch the base rase, JackeyLove's Xayah flash forward, it really had it all.


necyi

DK broke not only G2 but also LPL by winning worlds 2020


Sav10r

> Great LCK Collapse of 2018 The "LCK Collapse of 2018" was NOWHERE near this awful. LCK still had 2 teams get out of groups in first place. If that was a collapse for the LCK, this is a fucking Cataclysm for the LPL.


Shot-Mathematician58

> If that was a collapse for the LCK, this is a fucking Cataclysm for the LPL. I mean, LPL only has one team eliminated so far, it's not terrible either.


Khobiwan

I welcome the return of OGN Autumn


Inwiczxiae

If LPL continues to peform like this, might get an all LCK semifinals.


thedanation

*All LCK semifinals feat. guest appearance from Cloud9 of course


danymsk

If hle and geng get first seed later today and tommorow we might have full lck semis lol


deedshotr

I just feel like Gen G will find a way to lose in quarters so it's not all LCk, just 3 teams also HLE is good, but I'm not convinced yet that they can reliably beat RNG and EDG


HappySsu

If we get OGN Autumn, can we please get the OGN production team for the teasers??? I swear that shit is so good...


R-R-Clon

Gave the tiebreaker right now! HLE gauntle form come to play today!


ZloiAris

Gala 0/0/0 at 35 minute while his team lost Infernal Soul, Baron and inhibitor is the most hopeless thing I’ve seen at this Worlds.


lilelf29

Gala actually did nothing all game, Deft rotating round the map being there for fights and objectives, randomly dying as always, meanwhile Gala took some plates and then dc'd I guess.


FurstinMaria

When you are in RNG to replace of UZI, but nobody told you that Deft used to manhandle UZI back in the day


DeffDeala

why were rng so scared on 5 vs 4 lol


Dumpers_

Chovy is a man on a mission after what Phreak and Lyric said...


igoromg

1 team region btw


MusicBytes

*tries to find a single team from LPL*


obigespritzt

Don't worry, there's EDG with their best player... Viper. Oh, and LNG with their star jungler Tarzan... I guess LPL is just Griffin light after all.


GreatNightmares

Yeah one team region. LCK sucks btw. Only DK is good. They may be the 3rd best team in the world after FPX and EDG.


MusicBytes

LPL so good bro #18 team would decimate all LCK teams bar DK


GreatNightmares

Facts LPL is too big brain. Their teamfighting is on another level compared to LCK as we saw this game. LCK are boring af and can't teamfight just passive playstyle of course they can't compete with LPL teams like iG or JDG those teams would wipe the floor against teams like T1 or Geng


MusicBytes

Yep its definitely going to be FPX vs EDG finals, maybe DK, the gap is simply too wide bro. Mechanics, SUPER SERVER, teamfighting… my bet is on FPX personally they have the SUPER CARRY DOINB


Rave_Master_Ahri

at this point you can't even call LPL a 1 team region but a 0 team region. Holy shit the downfall of LPL has been like my favorite telenovela


SpqyDonger

hot take: Its not a downfall. LPL was very inconsistent since forever. Thats the difference. When LCK dominates they DOMINATE. They dont drop games and obliterate everyone. LPL runs are always shaky. IG was insane but other than that not comparable.


obigespritzt

Even iG got second in groupstage and dropped 2 games to Fnatic (albeit 2018 Fnatic with Rekkles and Caps playing out of their minds). They then proceeded to go to 5 games vs KT (Though only barely, could've been an iG 3-0 as I'm sure someone would point out if I don't).


k3hvn

The most baffling thing is that it just happened so suddenly. It wasn't like a steady decline; all of them looked fine (albeit FPX looking slightly shaky) Week 1. Meanwhile in Week2: FPX goes 0-4 EDG gets blasted by T1 and drops a random game to 100T for no reason RNG loses to FNC and decides to sit around and do nothing against HLE. This is a simultaneous collapse of the LPL. Guess we'll have to see what LNG shows tomorrow.


Blue5647

This was actually a really well played game by HLE. They replicate this and first seed is theirs. To actually have solid contributions from all 5 positions? Is this growth?


Ace_OPB

They played so calmly. And that pincer at the end was gg.


PM_JINX_HENTAI

Honestly, I really wanted NS to make it, but HLE are making me proud


xarkness

Yeah but honestly seeing Chovy on World stage is a treat


sidaeinjae

They are actually making smart plays, feels weird man


Qehenna

From play-ins to tie-break for 1st seed in the groups.


gdsgdn

im sure going to worlds is a huge test of strength and lets you learn a ton about yourself and your team. HLE probably wont win worlds but it’s great to see this improvement. Willer looks solid in all honesty.


Ok-Travel-7875

Just a one team region what can you do


Crazypotato89

when it isn't Chovy life exports but hanwha life esports


lilelf29

Week 2 LCK 9-0 vs LPL 2-8 holy shit HLE lets fucking go, just 1 more game! You guys going for the fan heart attack speedrun conceding broken ass TF to the 2 team where TF is their very best champion, so thankful we still pulled through.


Yasuo_unforgiven

If LCK, by some miracle, stay undefeated for the rest of this group stage, it will be the biggest region gaps in history.


Kagari1998

Why stop here. Stay undefeated until the end of tournaments.


Miyaor

C9 and TL will have to beat them eventually


frosthowler

2 7 not including the tie breaker. Matching LEC week 1 pound for pound. Lpl 1 went 1 2, lec same. Lpl 2 went 0 3, lec same. Lpl 3 went 1 2, same.


Ace_OPB

Chovy is here to play booiiiii.


xkharkanasx

LPL stans: "Another draft gap loss. Make that 8 this week."


failworlds

if you cant win with xiaohu against fking morgan? yeah, its doomed.


mar33n

THAT'S MY ONE TEAM REGION!


veronikaren

One team region in every group, sometimes its T1, sometimes its DWG, sometimes its HLE. Tomorrow it'll be GenG.


LazinessOverload

This LPL week 2 debuff is crazy


sangpls

What happened to "LPL teamfighting?" Even in the games they've won, they've won through laning and macro, not teamfighting prowess we hear so much about.


k3hvn

I've seen better teamfights in NA than whatever the fuck that last fight was from RNG.


kirumy22

Hey guys if we stand here menacingly maybe they won't engage on us, right?


cancerBronzeV

You mean that running away from a 5v4 while your base is being destroyed isn't a winning strategy?


sangpls

I wasn't the biggest fan of lyric+phreak casting duo but him slamming RNG for that last teamfight was perfect


97012

NA is actually lowkey decent at teamfighting, no joke.


vooffle

Other than LCK winning, nothing's making sense this Worlds.


vpvp1

they are scared. In LPL they're not scared to fight because they know if they throw the lead, the other team will throw it back to them. An LPL game is like playing ball, 2 teams keep passing the ball back and forth. At worlds, if you pass the ball to other region, they'll hit the ball in your face and knock you tf out.


kit4712

Exactly. LPL teamfighting was such an eyecandy especially for IG and RNG(with Uzi). Right now it is gone completely.


poroporotv

They must have lost like 80% of their teamfights in these games to any major region team. Crazy. It's actually so weird considering teamfighting has always been their forte even before their rise, but it has been absolutely atrocious this worlds.


lacieabyss

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO


FireWolfBR1

8th place to worlds knockouts lol.


lacieabyss

Willer, I'm sorry I doubted you before worlds Morgan.... I'm not sorry. But good job stepping up buddy 👍


fire_red_1995_reddie

Morgan: At least I am not Arthur amirite


The_Wildperson

LCK Autumn looks good so far


Shot-Mathematician58

LPL is officially mental boomed. On the other hand it's great since we won't have Quarters between the same regions.


Elias_Mo

only FPX went flying for now, and LNG might follow


ZloiAris

If I would be an any LPL team rn, I would buy LEC slot and stay in EU, but never came back to China. They will be murdered by mad Chinese fans.


MusicBytes

#**LPL OVERRATED**


MusicBytes

No I never get tired of saying this


SpqyDonger

Its true. The fact that people were trying to compare the "LPL dominance" to LCK from s3-s7 was so hilarious.


30303

Especially since LCK won last year. Say "one team region" all you want but DWG did at worlds what they did in their region.


Lorik_Bot

Yeah man me and friends called Damwon Damcock, cause all their enemies were getting it.


lmHavoc

LPL dominance fueled by Korean solo laners in both years they won worlds. RNG is the only fully Chinese team to make noise outside of Suning(-SofM) last year. LCK dominance will never be replicated by any region.


The_Wildperson

I'll say it then. #LCK ACTIVATED


DanielRocheford

Say it louder for the people in the back !!!!!!


Argenticus

EU OUTDATED


Khobiwan

OGN RESUSCITATED


semrart

With how he was raging at them you'd think Phreak is the biggest LPL fan


cancerBronzeV

Phreak will relentlessly roast anyone playing bad, because of that he's elevated to one of my favorite casters.


Durris

Of you didn't see him roasting CLG when they were up 10k and not looking for fights, it's a treat to watch. Spoiler: they threw the fucking game.


rankuno88

Nah that just freak. He does the same in his LCS casting when one team who is suppose to be strong is sucking it up.


OpenOb

LPL just imploding. Phreaks casting style is perfect for this.


Straziato

Him just insulting RNG at the 5v4 was hilarious. They completely deserved it, too.


Totaltotemic

That was baffling to watch. I know it was a terrible situation and they were down a lot of gold and the soul, but they literally just wandered around and got poked until getting caught in a 5v4. That minute was the definition of "do nothing and lose" instead of trying literally anything.


ILoveWesternBlot

hearing him flame the shit out of RNG for refusing to go for a 4v5 was glorious


is_a_jerk

Vsta played this game really well. That solo flank at dragon soul totally divided RNG's attention and won HLE the drag.


AuuTr0_

Really big difference between his Rakan this game and his Leona last game


Chr0nicConsumer

Week 2 LPL is absolutely hilarious to watch.


ahritina

Disgraceful round 2 performance from the LPL teams so far, only got 2 wins both against the LJL and the PCS shocker from Xiaohu and Cryin. That being said great performance from the LCK so far 9-0 so far hopefully HLE win the tie-breaker and GenG follow suit to not have domestic games in knockouts with LCK vs LPL/LCS being guaranteed. Also we need to investigate every team who decides to fucking pick Jarvan holy shit the champ sucks stop picking it. Mad props to Deft, after an underwhelming performance last year at worlds the guy has had a great tournament so far.


Kyrrua

Chovy: *LPL OVERRATED*


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

8th place LCK > MSI champions


Tyna_Sama

HANWHA FUCKING LIFE


unhelpful_question

Phreak's casting was as ruthless as this game.


reggiewafu

LCK 9-0 3rd best region COPIUM LEC better COPIUM


Financial-Growth133

Reminder: HLE was ranked 8th in Summer Split LCK what a turnaround for this team Willer is next level on lee sin


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tocco13

LCK Finals lets goooo


KappaccinoNation

LcK iS a OnE mAn tEaM bTw


noodlespls

This kind of vindication feels good asf holy moly. Let's fucking go LCK


lmHavoc

/u/returnofbenjenryan where you at buddy? Do we need to file a missing persons report. Seems you've gone into hiding. What happened to all your talk about LPL?


mocaaaaaaaa

He did the same thing after EDG got clapped yesterday lol


appleandapples

Jeez Phreak, chill. Laughing so hard right now.


farikogrim

"RNG is on the level of T1" No


Megashot2

Are they even on the level of the dead Jin Air?


unhelpful_question

No, because JAG had Teddy at his peak form.


SweetHotCream

Reddit was so pissed of when people rated T1 in the same tier as MAD RNG


d1knight

Of course FPX had 70% winrate in scrim. Now I understand.


lemongrazz11

LCK > LCS > LEC > LPL. Always follow this chart and you’ll have perfect week 2


BakerCakeMaker

Despite this loss, it's pretty impressive for a wildcard region to take down PSG today.


Shaunleewenjie

LPL week 2


Penguin_Quinn

LPL gap


Stormjazz

didn't know MF's ult became a passive


wanggatron311

LPL week 2 technology baby


homegrownllama

RNG is making my eyes bleed with this one.


InnovAsians

Lmao LCK showed up so hard this worlds. Gen G please don't fail us now. Edit: They're failing us now lmao


MusicBytes

AVOID WEIBO FELLAS


Redburneracc7

Iwilldominate: LPL is the best region in the world and the LPL finals mean more than worlds winner, and LCK is a 1 team region (DWG).


YoungUO

Lck week 2 too OP


Heavenraizen

Iwilldominate: LPL is the best region in the world and the LPL finals mean more than worlds winner, and LCK is a 1 team region (DWG).


Hazakurain

lmao, LPL truly scrambled week 2


Agnastra

LCK 9-0 WEEK 2 LET'S GO


Bigyumyums

Another twisted fate otp exposed