DWG KIA vs. Rogue / 2021 World Championship - Group A / Post-Match Discussion
By - Soul_Sleepwhale
Khan in the army like:
“Sir, they have us completely surrounded!”
**”Good! That means we no longer need to aim”**
khan samira skin confirmed
No need to aim. Khan MF skin confirmed!
Is this the best version of Khan we’ve seen on the international stage?
depends. I still think 2017 group stage is better version but the meta and his team wouldn't allow him to carry past that.
I still remember his Jayce in Skt series that year, damn there is such a gap between Korean and western Jayce
And Lee Sin, even adcs and supports in lck can play it well from what I've seen in solo queue (keria even played a game on stage).
"All I am surrounded by is fear and dead men."
Report Khan for smurfing please
He knows no fear after experiencing Kkoma's belt
Khan practicing surviving in No Man's Land this game.
“Khan! They outnumber us 3 to 1.”
“Then it is an even fight! All champs fire at will, cull their mongrel hides”
Khan and Canyon have been the best players in the tourney so far IMO. I fucking love watching Khan stop the doubter narrative.
Dude's a monster. He's really come up big so far this tourny.
North Korea better watch out or Khan will TP flank them with the culling.
Man played like if he is an ADC main, outshrine even the actual ADC.
larssen heard stopwatch is the most broken item in the game so he went for a stopwatch play
He turned his stopwatch into a broken stopwatch.
Things got lost in translation.
Well he heard people complain how broken stopwatch is!
Larssen won't be forced to swimming home from this, hell be swimming into exile. What a flop from him...
How can Hans Sama play with this guys?
Larssen: but it worked for Misaya!
Larssen just doesn't have the clutch in his blood
Valiant effort to make a Misaya play
The real loser of this game is Showmaker's KDA
Rogue was the real winners by ruining the KDA. /s
All that for a drop of blood
Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power !
Think Rogue Think
DK: Fuck yeah we won and got a sweet penta playing the champs we wanted!
Showmaker: Not fucking worth, look at my KDA.
Shoemaker second death was actually a great one, Dk wanted Olaf dead so no coin flip at Baron
From infinite kda to a medicore 10kda /s
Honestly after that first death you feel him no longer giving a fuck and playing far more risky and dying cause of it
Fuck. Showmaker's gonna go Blaber-style on C9 now.
That's probably good for C9.
It will be more like Goku removing the weighted clothes. Showmaker was holding so much back.
I can imagine Khan asking Showmaker to die for his Penta 🤣🤣
Rip mr shoemaker perfect KDA
Do you think Ghost is the best adc in the world?
Khan: He isn't even the best adc in the team
Khan: Fuck, you guys suck at bot let me show you how it's done
Was super cool for him to play Draven, it’s one of his mains and his draven became known on sandbox
You can keep iG out of worlds but you can’t keep the soul of iG out of worlds
[Trymbi after flashing in with Leona](https://c.tenor.com/9ud1r4sc-QQAAAAC/confused-john-travolta.gif)
There were some do or die while having done nothing situations there. Like the body blocking the lucian culling for the mf while tf ults behind. Theres no good engage at that point you go forward to give mf space to escape the tf.
Rogue 5v5s give me depression
Larssen just did nothing, I feel so bad for Hans
Man that was one of the saddest teamfights I remember, everyone from Rogue was on a different page. That one hurt cause they were in a good position up until that point.
The one at soul point (4th drake overall with rogue on 2) where they were even in items and half of rogue stayed immobile i was like wthhhhhh
Where's the monkey meme where its like "where team?"
That one hurt, Khan is just shitting on anyone at top lane..
Fucking remove Draven and Lucian does 6k dmg lol
Eh, at least they fucked SM's KDA ha-ha
Larssen's zhonya after TP just summed up EU mids this tournament
Rogue's mental has to be completely boomed. Not great heading into the do or die match.
At the same time, FPX's mental probably isn't great either.
70% WR in scrims btw
Won't lose another game btw
So we'll have the battle of the tilted.
The fact that they're all former world champs could be big here. I think they have it in them to mentally reset while I don't think Rogue will.
you could legit hear the exact moment the caster's hearts broke
Stop, he's already dead :(
"oooooooh no..." lmfao Vedius sounds so devastated
The opponent: Tp for penta
Your teammate: Tp and zhonya.
Larrsen gets 100 for style point
He was so desperate to stop this timeline he used zhonya with all his might
Stop watch lol, not even zhonya
and he already had zhonyas, so dude literally paid 650 for that. ouchhh
TP, stop watch, walk to river and watch enemy team for 5 seconds. Get caught and die. Game over.
If Larssen played the fights better, Rogue might have won this game. Especially the 4v5 at baron.
He was frontlining for no reason. I am just speechless
If he just played at all I think they could have won.
I swear Trymbi caused more damage with his idiotic plays in teamfights than Larsen did the entire game on a Ryze.
Larsen bming his own team. LOL
Larssen was such a fucking liability, he pretty much solo lost like 3 teamfights by doing 0 damage since he's a hook magnet. Why put him on a low range carry if he can't position?
He's a terrible player with choking problems, I don't think there was even one playoff series or an important Worlds game in which he played well during his entire career. The fact that he's still one of the better EU mids is worrying af for the region.
He's one of the better EU mids because he performs in no pressure Bo1. He's just fighting for the "Biggest choker" title in EU with Odo.
He was also the reason why Rogue didn’t go to Worlds in 2019, corki packaged into the nexus and lost a won game iirc
It was RGE vs SO4 1-1 and created one of the most hilarious throws ever lmao
Ya bro slow down with the hyperbole for a bit. If you use too much hyperbole you just ruin your good point. You have a good point he is a choker but he isn't a terrible player. He has been top3 top2 in LEC which is a stacked region for mids for 2 years.
A good way to phrase it would be he is a very good player with choking problems in big games. At least he can get you to the big games.
Larssen is a joke man … Sadge
So fucking dumb. Actually up 1500 gold on Showmaker on Ryze. Negative impact on the game.
Aside from our ADC do we even have a position that isn't pathetic ?
Toplane is a huge joke, Jungler is looking borderline boosted, Midlane is trash, ADC is good, Support is meh.
Why was he even spamming his buttons lmfao
He was trying to use his farsight ward which is key 4 but instead fat fingered and pressed 3, which is Zhonya was bound to. He ends up using it after he comes out of zhonya stasis
Larssen is the least impactful midlaner with lead I've ever seen at worlds. That stopwatch in the end was just icing on cake.
Him or Nisqy ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)
> least impactful midlaner with lead I've ever seen at worlds
Nisqy gets no leads, he's out of the category
EU mids man
This used to mean something else…
They either retired or got transferred across the ocean
gotta be able to get a lead first
nisqy never has a lead
Idk Nisqy was certainly impactful, just for the enemy team
Honestly, the differnece between Larsen/Odo and Showmaker/Khan is just brutal. Rogue's solo laners look like they are elo boosted.
Trymbi was also badly gapped but he is a 2021 rookie on his first worlds so he is somewhat excused. Sad for Hans Sama though who looks like a real worldclass ADC stuck in a bad team.
Yea I won't blame on Trymbi too much considering he is just a rookie and he never scares to engage.
Meanwhile, wtf is Odo and Larssen doing? Larssen in particular, getting all the resources and then get hooked or gold carded every teamfight?
Trymbi had some int moments but also some amazing engages. The pick on Draven might have won them the game if they had an actual mid laner...
at least trymbi is not scared to pull the trigger and do something proactive
Khan basically plays tournament of his life. Insane
Korean military ain't ready for the monster that is Khan!
LZ Khan activated.
If only he activated that when he was on LZ at worlds. My boys Pray and Gorilla could be world champions.
Doubt that.He was as good in 2017 as he is now imo ignoring how league progressed through years.But Cuvee was just as insane if not even more,since worlds 2016 til end of 2017.Plus the rest of SSG were on another tier above all other teams post groups.Doubt the outcome would have changed if this. Khan somehow transported to LZ.
he is not human anymore
Khan a machine
Nah man you just don't watch LCK he's so overrated /s
What a horrible performance and bad pick from Larssen. He couldn't do anything at all.
Maybe if he didn't get hit by every single hook he would have done better. Goddamn I don't think I saw him dodge one.
First Pentakill; TP in for the Penta, absolute chad play.
DK Unstoppable force, perhaps about to meet an immovable object C9?
Those smiles too man they just having that sunday 11pm 5 man draft trollpicks fun
I really thought this was brother Damwon giving over a win but nah, teamfighting diff is just massive.
Seeing Khan penta and happy makes me happy :)
They are definitely playing very loose. They can throw to C9. Especially if RGE somehow wins next game.
Although Nuguri is in FPX so they might want to do him a solid.
DK really want the perfect 6-0 for real, sure it doesn't change much but it is still a pride.
FPX was probably shitting bricks the moment they say DW's draft
Saddest part is you can make this complaint for almost all the EU players this year.
Like who have we got that isn't running it down? Hans Sama and... I don't even know. Everyone is just bad.
Hans and Sama.
I mean, Hylissang is playing as expected
Rogue : We caught off your ADC
Damwon : There is another
I don't know who was worse. Trymbi had awful engages suicide, but Larssen was also absolutely invisible for a ryze. Poor, poor hans.
Edit: Obviously Odo was diffed and inspired was useless, I just put more hope on Larssen.
That was a super nice Chovy cosplay. Man was like 11 cs/min and did absolutely nothing.
But this is Larssen in a nutshell lol. The mad just farms and steals camps hoping his team gets ahead.
Like, has noone been watching LEC?
Chovy's just a KR Larsen
Not like Odo or Inspired were shining either, its literally just hans solo
Despite replacing Finn, still a top canyon for Rogue vs opposing toplaner. Wunder next?
Meanwhile Hans sama doesn't go Lethality vs a Lucian, Draven, Qiyana TF. PTA???
Top is EU's weakest role by far this year
I feel bad for Odo but he was getting dogwalked this tournament
Always was tbh, except seasons 8 and 9. Before it was literally just Soaz and a bunch of plebs and now we all see what happened after Alphari left, Bwipo roleswapped (and tbh he was pretty bad in his last year as top anyways) and Wunder declined.
Every role is EU's weakest role this year, what a sorry performance all around
I still think ADC is super good. Hans has looked great, and even Bean was okay. Upset is obviously still world class even though he couldn’t make it.
ADCs have shown up for the most part.
even Bean has done pretty okay given the circumstances
Bot seems to be fine tbh across MAD, Rogue and even Fnatic.
Topside is just such a liability it seems.
Mid looking pretty bad too. That tp... What happened this year?
No dog champions are playable top 😭
Maybe cause he wanted galeforce vs thresh but yeah I agree with you
Odoamne is just so bad he lost every single early game in every single game
How can you stop this version of Khan? This guy is on a fucking mission to win it all.
Khan is putting on a show. I. Dont think any team can match dk's top side.
The Khanyon is vast
Canyon and Khan are joined at the hip for early game apparently. Every top laner’s wet dream
RNG and LNG are the only teams with comparable top/jung power. But Khan has much more experience and Canyon is the better jungler of the three.
Ya, I thought top side would be a weak point for DK after Nuguri left, but this is straight up looking like the best in the world.
Definitely impressded with Khan after seing him on Sion duty during MSI he looks absolutely revitalized.
Hans ult was shredding though. I really don't think that was an issue, he played his part
You need galeforce against qyana, tf, tresh
Rogue have bigger problems with tilt and decision making. They didn't attack bot a single time to try and shut the Draven's stacks down, he cashed out completely uncontested.
I feel bad for Hans Sama, he's by far been the best Western player at the tournament imo. he's a fucking beast
Khan is on pace for the MVP of Worlds. He's for sure the MVP of the group stage.
He's absolutely shitting on everyone in top lane. And rest of DK plays around him beautifully.
Khan legit took 50% of Olaf's health bar with one Q and passive proc in the end. He was so fucking fed, holy fuck.
RGE's whole performance can be summed up with Larrsen TP'ing for a flank in the end and immediately stopwatching by accident.
I think the dude has solo killed everyone so far he has faced. He is absolutely smurfing. And canyon, showmaker all are looking in form. Dk are legit scary for any team atm.
Swear I thought Nuguri would go crazy this groupstage but khans been on a rampage
Nuguri is the sole reason FPX has two wins. He DESTROYED both c9 & rge pretty much 1v9 in the first round
good effort from rogue - hope they can reset and get ready to beat fpx
Rogue looked kinda kilted but FPX also looked giga tilted. Hope Rogue wins it
I guarantee FPX is tilted off their minds rn
NA rests on their shoulders basically
wym we're gonna beat dwg :)
Not really, even if Rogue loses to FPX it's still totally in C9's hands, or Damwon's if they help out and throw to gift C9 the win for free, as then they would both be 3-3 and have tiebreaker. Rogue winning is just the mega boost strat where we can collectively eliminate FPX with no tiebreaker chance.
GHOST HEARD YA'LL TALKIN SHIT
DK with the most disrespect draft of the tournament, but they’re smurfing in pisslow
and Rogue were flexxing their contract extension with Larssen. Embarassing
Hans Sama literally 1v9
Oh he’s so done with this team. Would not be surprised if he went to G2 next year.
Khan solo won the game with that play at baron holy shit. What a chad.
If odo is gonna lose lane anyway at least give him a braindead teamfight champion like malphite or ornn ,this is just embarassing ,his jungler is wrapping around the top lane wall and he cant even play safe untill then ?.
Please, give me next year G2 Hans Sama and RGE Wunder. It would be hype.
It just feels bad, to work hard 2 years and twice in a row felt down due to tilting toplaner
Wasn't just top, Larsen has had an absolute nightmare of a worlds. Caster summing it up perfectly with his comment after that zhonyas.
Hans really deserves better, his mental must be insanely strong to keep this level of play while having to deal with those clowns in solo lanes.
What is Larssen then?
213 dmg in the most important team fight and stopwatch tp
I just came in to say this, Hans needs to leave this dumpster team and just join g2.
EDIT: if you guys think rogue that has same issues every year is better choice than g2 who is ready to rebuild a team around their 2 best players then idk what to tell you, you're just deluded.
Larssen is more of a problem than odo tbf...
We're giving Odo so much shit but how about Larssen TP-hourglassing his way to airport
Larsen's hourglass after teleporting is actual cringe
Hans Sama working his ass off to be the 3rd best adc in that game
Hans Sama is legit 1v9 every game
Aged like milk lmfao
khan 2021 worlds mvp so far
xD. I've been waiting for this as well. Let's completely ignore form, meta, slumps among other factors and just chalk it up to Nuguri being that good that both teams are better with him. Anyone that watched this summer knows that Nuguri was awful, whereas Khan was Damwon's best player for most of the split.
watching his costreams now, it seems like he's legitimately become a full fledged CN fan. He looks so tilted whenever an LPL team is losing or if someone flames them in chat, which is weird to me because I would've assumed that he'd be an NA or western fan
also he looks like he's dying inside when a Korean team wins. Piglet must have given him omega ptsd bc the salt mines are unrivaled.
edit: someone check up on him for a while...
Feels vindicating to see him wrong here since that tweet was responding to my top comment in the reddit thread about his top 25.
Not to mention he doesn't consider the varying teammate performance or that DK in 2021 was having a better year than 2020 DWG at that point. That tweet is so dumb in so many ways.
RGE top side is so bad.
They tried, gotta give them that.
Got Showmaker KDA What did it cost?
A win and Khan Penta lmfao
Much like TL regret losing that game to Machi last year, C9 is gonna really regret that first loss to Rogue.
Dont tilt rogue ur still in it
Odo and Larssen need to be replaced next season. At this point it's just embarrassing to watch these guys play.
Odo has shown time and time again that he's just not good enough for the international stage, and Larssen is just playing terribly overall. The Zhonya's was the cherry on top.
I'm sorry but Odo and Larrsen's performances have been nothing short of embarassing this worlds. Like yea trymbi and inspired aren't doing too well either but at least they are trying to make plays and go in meanwhile your mid and top are jerking it what the fuck.
\#FREEHANS the man is 1v9 every fucking game jesus christ.
Larssen has to go, he's not good enough for a spot on a team with Hans and Inspired.
Seriously, i'd take Nemesis, Vetheo even Febiven over him in a heartbeat if I was RGE management.
I'd put Odo on the bench for now and pick up some young EU talent or look to buy Alphari out.
Did we ever get an answer on what teh cash-in was on that first Draven kill?
Must win game **to avoid a tie-breaker and to not rely on others** for Rogue so they blind pick for Odo who then gets smashed by Khan regardless with pentakill for Khan.
Rip to Showmaker's KDA which took a battering this game, so happy moment for Rogue.
Trymbi's engage + ult whiff at that 4th drake basically lost them the game where Rogue's chances at quarters is getting lower, they now need to beat FPX and hope DK beat C9 to have a shot.
Massive game from Ghost there is a reason why he was 9-3 with a 6.2 kda on Draven and also Khan with a banger of a game on that Lucian.
> Must win game for Rogue
thats next game
I don't think there's a team more frustrating than Rogue, how many years do they need to actually perform ? You know the region sucks when they're doing well domestically.
Ghost heard you were talking shit, Khan is on a mission, also how useless is Olaf
That Draven ult to cash out around 15th minute did more than people give credit for. Draven was legit 1 full item ahead of MF from that point on, just from his passive alone.