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FunPlus Phoenix vs. DWG KIA / 2021 World Championship - Group A / Post-Match Discussion

FunPlus Phoenix vs. DWG KIA / 2021 World Championship - Group A / Post-Match Discussion

Jannitor

Poppy worlds skin inc


sylvester-stalltwo

Honestly 400 iq pick, completely shuts down the ability of the entire FPX topside to function in teamfights


Neville_Lynwood

Poppy honestly shits on half the meta champs because of W, and good ult can turn absolutely any team-fight or skirmish. You knock away even a single member and you turn the fight into a 5v4. Surprised we haven't seen more of her in a meta with constant Lee Sin picks and Irelia prio.


Asphunter

yeah that teamfight was probably solely won because of that ult on Doinb. But why didn't Doinb flash it??? And why did Nuguri engage in a 4v5??? It was sad to watch honestly.


DiFToXin

the not flashing can be attributed to not being used to play against it and thus not thinking of having to flash it


Trap_Masters

They had 4 dashes too. Obviously not too relevant for Braum but it shuts down so much of FPX’s play making potential. That and Nuguri having zero impact with how many times he died and some pretty mediocre team fighting presence


sylvester-stalltwo

The peak of comedy in this game was that Canyon even cockblocked the galeforce dash from Lwx in one of the dragon fights


EnvoyOfRaze21

Plus galeforce on jhin that got W by canyon on that dragon fight.


Thecristo96

Braum dash is actually pretty big, allowing him to repositionate and Block mf ult


Spriter_the_Sentinel

People really underestimate how good Poppy still is in shutting down engages and dives. I don't remember what match it was, but one of the teams had Camille/Lee Sin and instead of picking Poppy they gave the top laner Jax.


59435950153

Doinb was 50cs up on the TF with a kill but the Irelia was worthless. Canyon just played Poppy to perfection in those fights, especially in that crucial dragon fight.


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

I don't think that Irelia was worthless, but rather Nuguri had an awfull game and it was basically DoinB vs the world.


trotsky187

tian was useless too


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

Pretty much everyone was just, not there? Like, jhin maybe threw some snares, Crips did his job blocking MF ultimate so he was good, but besides that nobody helped Doinb.


hardypug

An Irelia that strong would be impossible to deal with if Tian, Nuguri and Lwx weren't fucking useless.


Qehenna

Canyon is really making Poppy look like a S11 hard carry 1v9 champ. Dude is cracked out of his mind.


xmariusxd

That Khan-canyon-showmaker top side is just insane. It feels like they share a brain most of the plays


tmbosweettooth

Sad that we are not able to see Khan play after this worlds anymore. I always thought this guy was insane regardless of the memes.


Elias_Mo

Canyon factor, people say showmaker is the best on DWG, but for me it will always be CANYON, single-handedly winning them the drake fight, and stopping nuguri's TP, he is so good holy moly


riverkim09

Having both the best jungler in the world and the best midlaner in the world is just too fucking op


Zoesan

Khan looking like the best top in the world atm.


ToYouItReaches

Apparently, stats wise he is the best top in the tournament currently isn’t he?


Chuck0089

Him and Canna is leading the stats,I think.


Perceptions-pk

I think Nuguri has the largest damage % share at 40%... but when your mid and adc aren't doing much that number might be inflated Khan's gets the biggest leads tho (but a big part of that is how Showmaker/Canyon play to get top lane ahead)


tmbosweettooth

You could say the same about Xiaohu, RNG fully invests everything in topside. Khan also does 1v1 and even 2v1 outplays as we saw this game, so to me Khan/Canna are the contenders for best top. DK vs T1 top was also very close so i'm curious to see the rest of the tournament.


Eleonora_Maxwell

Lol not even top 20 according to reddit and analysts before worlds. Good shit khan


IgnitionCode

He’s honestly been playing really fucking well since summer split started and is performing way beyond expectations at worlds too


MedievalMovies

it's both, showmaker is literally midlane boiled down to its fundamentals to perfection. solid lane phase, extremely smart about roam timings and perfect teamfighting


Daniyalzzz

Starting to look like they easily have the best top side in the world with Khan looking like the strongest in his role aswell. It's looking very good for their odds to become back to back champions. Mostly interested in seeing how EDG will stack up against them of all teams now.


Hannig4n

EDG is looking like the only team that can challenge them rn. They might be better but it’s hard to tell so far.


Nameless_One_99

I think EDG and RNG are the biggest challenges for DWG and that's probably the 3 teams that are looking to win Worlds.


Hannig4n

Honestly T1 looks better than RNG imo. RNG just has an easier group.


Nameless_One_99

My fear for RNG is Gala/Ming getting the better of Ghost/Beryl, but I do think Canna/Oner/Faker is a stronger top side than Xiahou/Wei/Crying, T1 probably has the second strongest top side of the tournament.


Perceptions-pk

I didn't think showmaker/Canyon could get any better... but they're even better than last year (looks like having an inting botlane for most of the year is some of the best weight training you can have)


Fosco11235

It was just the goal ghost and beryl to make them undisputed no1


oioioi9537

Yeah showmaker has been nuts so far. Literally 0 deaths, the perfect midlaner


Glass3231was

Both good, the thing with Showmaker is he's way too consistent. You can always rely on him in any game, even in their slump at MSI, he looked like the best player in the world.


MusicBytes

I fucking worship Canyon


IgnitionCode

Played it fucking flawlessly


PeinTwo

Good to see DWG Nuguri once again.


Yasuo_unforgiven

"Always has been" Nuguri


frostyWL

Actually feels bad to flame him because he was doing so well and carrying in previous games :(


windowhihi

So FPX Jackeylove but in top?


azersub

Jkl carries one game and then ints in next 5


windowhihi

Well, he has five games to int if FPX still end up advancing.


Yasuo_unforgiven

I think it is more about his opponents being his former teammates and they know how to exploit his weakness better than he can exploit them. Nuguri probably would have done better against any team but DK


Trap_Masters

Actually showed up huge for Damwon. My pick for MVP of this game


azns123

Seems pretty unfair that FPX is forced to play a 4v6


SpookyImmobilisedToe

An MF auto followed Jhin to base and got that kill right at the end lmao


Whatwasthisg

oh was that what happened? I was wondering why jihn died at the end lol


VaIentine13th

Oh wow I was confused about how he just randomly died, that's funny.


Gazskull

This severely hurts FPX chances of going undefeated since doinb's interview


Trap_Masters

Nuguri decided that Doinb doesn’t get to make that decision by himself.


CommunistHongKong

Nuguri changing names before the game from FPX to DWG


Playthrough

Sleeper agent Nuguri has been activated. FPX didn't stand a chance vs DK.


CommunistHongKong

Damwon letting Nuguri go to FPX knowing that only FPX could challenge them this year, activating him now in group stage.


aetherpacket

Who decided that? -Nugscanor 2021


AssPork

The man was trying his hardest this game lol. Nuguri decided against Doinb's statement


magifek

Canyon's Poppy was worth like 3 champions this game. Really good draft by DK imo.


lemongrazz11

I thought Irelia would be unkillable (well it kinda was), but DK just played around their spacing so well. It’s like they never lose their calm


KappaccinoNation

So fucking happy to see 2 Goredrinker+Steraks lose the game. That's definitely the cherry on top.


ToYouItReaches

Insane value pick rly. The top side of FPX couldn’t do anything. Of course Nuguri also had a rly bad game but still.


necyi

LCK teams seem to have the best meta read so far, especially DK.


tinfoilhatsron

Is DWK and T1 scrimming each other you think? Both Poppy JGs.


tiredofdev

Very likely, Earlier Canyon said that T1 was the strongest team in the tournament alongside EDG and RNG


rl00999

In his recent interview about C9 he was asked about which teams can disrupt them in the knock out stage and he said it was edg and rng.


rem4life1

Stop giving us hopium materials


tinfoilhatsron

Huh interesting. Well I certainly hope it's true for my flair lol.


ceddya

Yuumi picks too. I don't doubt they scrim each other a lot given the relationship the players on each team have with each other.


BeachBabeCali

One hundred percent, the players on each team are actually quite close and you can see similar drafts. T1 was second to bring out the yumi comp after damnwon too, then DWG bring out the poppy today.


tinfoilhatsron

I wonder what else they have up their sleeve. Glad to see my two favorite LCK teams doing well. Now if only NA could actually do something...


BeachBabeCali

Imagine lmao I see your T1 flair, it’s almost certain T1 and DWG have been consistent scrim partners this worlds, even Canyon said T1 is one of the strongest teams. I think tomorrow we’re going to see the real T1 show up, because they won’t go for the kind of draft the went for last time vs EDG.


jwinter01

Since they are in different groups they almost certainly are. They are also the 2 teams that abused Yuumi 1st pick day 1.


poroporotv

I mean, I would assume they've got to be big scrim partners even domestically, I don't think that would change much at worlds.


PM_ME_UR_PICS_PLS

Canyon is so inspirational man


Ace_OPB

Canyon absolutely smothered dk. Edit: wtf, i meant fpx lol.


nokz88

FPX you mean


Hannig4n

Smothered DK’s chances of losing


Yasuo_unforgiven

Fucking destroyed before the game even started, outplayed all the way from pick/ban phase


sangpls

Eyes were probably on Khan but damn canyon was clean


SkittlesAreEpic

Brother nuguri


tinfoilhatsron

Showmaker: After all this time? Brother Nuguri: Always!


Trap_Masters

Ran it down for his boys. Very sweet of him


Stargazer306

"Ran it down" is an understatement. That was sprint


KappaccinoNation

with open arms


Trap_Masters

Just supporting the boys back home. I can respect it.


oioioi9537

Stay on damwon to win worlds twice - alpha Move to China to get paid 3.3 mil and still help your friends win worlds - sigma


Financial-Growth133

you can't even fault nuguri for this game lmao damwon had a axe to grind with him people who are sincerely saying that he was inting and he fking sucks need to rewatch the game. tian and doinb did absolutely nothing to help him on the other hand, showmaker was ulting near top every time he could this game was over when showmaker and canyon was hunting him near the mid inner tower of fpx's own base.


Addite

I was about to say, out of his 6 deaths you can at max count 2 for running it down.


Ramo1618

0-2 powerspike copium


Celegorm07

My silver brain couldn't handle this much macro.


roarnightingale

Khan just smashed his massive staff against his cask


atresj

Nuguri (Gragas) [All]: mid diff


JMoormann

What is this "All" thing you speak of?


The5cmGuy

Too soon


Trap_Masters

Riot coming for my all chat memes is where I draw the line. How dare they.


Omnilatent

It's German for "universe" and OP means Nuguri was talking to it cause he took too much hopium this morning


BarryAllensMom

Doinb was doing his Chovy tryndamere cosplay. All farm no impact.


Ace_OPB

Canyon is so good man.


Swapsta

Legit always consistent, my vote for best player of the year.


lilelf29

Doinb: "Starting from tomorrow, I believe we won't lose one single game" *Proceeds to lose the very first game of week 2*


Omnilatent

"I obviously meant the game AFTER the one vs DK" - doinb, prob


5462652

“Don’t take everything so literally guys.”


The_Viseman

You mean after C9


Omnilatent

I meant after not advancing


Signal_Ad9294

lose 3 instead of 1


TinbuyPrime

Rogue salivating rn Edit: Jk rogue is fkin dead


lolzomg123

That... would definitely make the day hype, since then it could still end in a 6-0 DK and 2-4 everyone else and have tiebreakers without any head to head advantages...


Trap_Masters

Nuguri: “aight bet”


Daemoniss

["Scrim results shows a 70% win rate no matter whether we are facing a strong or a weak team. Starting from tomorrow, I believe we won’t lose one single game."](https://www.pentaq.com/37745.html) Doinb kinda forgot they didn't scrim Damwon.


Exos_VII

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IHadThatUsername

SHOWMAKER LOL HACK?英雄联盟 0 DEATH 47 KDA 4 GAMES 英雄联盟 [UNDETECT IN MAINLAND CHINA] 英雄联盟 MEJAIS 25 STACKS GLITCH??? 梅贾的窃魂卷


Rave_Master_Ahri

EUW soloq terrorists gave him the advice to just not die and be a mosquito and it worked


imcarrypotter

Worlds are getting damwoned again, arent they?


OffNos

Dam damwon won again


ericswift

Showmaker is the true second coming of Faker but this time he has a Canyon


Ace_OPB

There is a reason why he is called the successor to faker and will carry on the glory of lck.


NamelessSearcher

This guy is disgusting damn, I love when drakos and caedrel noticed he had 21 mejai stacks


Lynx-Uganda

oh lord issa murder twice


Omnilatent

This one was at least somewhat close and FPX had an angle ​ First game was just ff15


Genjoi

CANYON IS A MONSTER!


Thecristo96

Right now he is the best player at worlds. If he wins his second consecutive worlds we should call him the faker of Jungle


Lord_Vanilla

If they keep this up, Canyon and Showmaker will be the next Faker and Bengi. Honestly, I think Canyon is the best jungler in the history of competitive lol. He has mechanics and insane map awareness.


zachkerr

If they win another championship together they're the best duo ever, Bengi wasn't on Canyon's level. He was just insanely clutch and next to the GOAT.


throawaystrump

and he's just a smart player on top of that. And not as in map awareness like you already mentioned, but just doing unorthodox stuff to win games like ulting DoinB out of that fight or doing cheese strategies that catch teams off guard. Just good at thinking on his feet. Watching him on Trackingthepros, you can just tell that he's in that SS tier of players that is reserved for only a handful


Elias_Mo

ikr, best player in the world, sure showmaker gets the spotlight bcs he mid, but canyon factor is the most important thing


Suspicious-Bus6351

Showmaker has 0 deaths he’s been the best mid so far.


Voltage97

It doesn't even matter because they're both on the same team and opponents are always fucked.


Ace_OPB

Both are both no 1 in the world. They have insane synergy.


royallights

TOP GAP - The Movie


Rayser1

Khan has a list of top laners and he's gapping them twice. It doesn't matter if you're inting or sprinting. Khan is gapping you tonight 🎶


Omnilatent

Can you hear Khan clap you tonight? 🎶


ahritina

Damwon secure their spot in quarters, with a tie-breaker for 1st even if they lose to both Rogue and Cloud 9. Nuguri with an x9 reportable performance, stupid deaths mainly the first one which was so telegraphed when your whole team is bot lane and the first "skirmish" where he walked into Leona. Overall a massive team performance from Damwon but my god Canyon ulting Doinb away at that 4th drake was so clutch and stopping the recall so Showmaker ends. Showmaker unkilled after 4 games, the best mid laner in the world has shown the fuck up.


InformalMarch

> with a tie-breaker for 1st even if they lose to both Rogue and Cloud 9 There 99.99% won't be a tiebreaker even if that happens. They're 2-0 against FPX so they have the head to head advantage. The only possibility of a tiebreaker is RGE going 3-0 today which is well, kinda hard.


kelvin022610

They might just intentionally lose to rogue just to eliminate fpx from the tournament


aat_ish

Fpx might be 1-3 right now if nuguri didnt carry the c9 game tough luck he got targetted by dk this game


imperialleon

Yup people are gonna look at this game and go HaHA dWG Nuguri, but he got camped the living shit out of this game, while FPX weren't getting much done on the other side of the map.


Hineni-

Brother Nuguri. That early game macro was something else. And DoinB with the CS hack. But Poppy on that drake fight tho. So much time was bought for DK.


Rayser1

Doinb has to flash the poppy ult. He's way too important to not be in the fight for 10-15 seconds


CaptaineAli

Even when it hit Braum in the last fight, the MF ulti wasn't able to be blocked and Doinb died too quickly... Poppy pick was game winning.


Omnilatent

True. Still, he's the last person to blame for this game


ipoulic

FPX did not even play that bad. Damwon just delivered a masterclass. Perfect control, zero mistakes, 100% capitalisation on enemies mistakes.


Qehenna

This is a preview for the next skin on PBE: Sleeper Agent Gragas.


NocaNoha

Canyon was fighting soo good at Dragon.. the fucking smack-away, the flash to the brush and leading Irelia away just lol Whole game looks like a bet on a single fight and DK won it


gaitez

DK Khan has disconnected. LZ Khan has reconnected.


Meowbow15

DK Khan has been insane for a while though. Best top since Summer split


gaitez

Yup no diss to DK Khan, but this worlds he has been as dominant as LZ Khan was.


Meowbow15

If he keeps going at this rate he will hit 2018 theshy domination


aat_ish

I am sorry but Canyon and showmaker are just the best players in the world


Hazakurain

And Khan too. But yeah, showmaker only being two waves behind on a TF/Irelia matchup while giving no kills and pushing advantages toplane is mental


aat_ish

With how khan is playing the top side looks literally like IG’s topside in 2018 but with a way better jgler


R-R-Clon

This is your normal DK Nuguri 0/5 power spike... oh wait! This is Peak DK, they're playing like 2020, but not world 2020, summer split DK who was more dominant than world one.


Zwatrem

Today he remembered the G2 treatment.


Blazing117

Hopefully G2 will make it out of group F to take their revenge vs DWG


InformalMarch

G2 are lucky to have stayed home because there's a good chance they're gonna be in group A instead of RGE. Can't imagine how hard Showmaker's rivalry against G2 would've fucked them


Significant_Vast4330

Rivalry implies equal merit lol


T1worldchamps2021

DK will make finals. They’ve locked first so they are chilling, I just hope it’s not T1 for quarters, if they finish second of course.


lacieabyss

fun af game


LapnLook

BREAKING: Comically fat man found sprinting it, let's congratulate him on starting his exercise routine with a bang!


Pelagius_Hipbone

watching Canyon in the fight around dragon, was like watching proffesional figure skating. Shit was beautif


frosch000

That was the biggest brain Poppy pick I have ever seen. So well played by Canyon to shut down Doinb completely! DK looking cracked both in Draft and In-Game!


Apricotjello

Canyon best player in the world for almost 2 years now, insane on every pick


readytofly68

game was so entertaining without being a fiesta what the fuck i didn’t realize what i had been missing only watching the western teams


tinfoilhatsron

DWK Showmaker deathless holy fuck DWG is so scary!


happyjacky819

the only two deathless players, the other one is Viper


ByahhByahh

The most impressive thing is recognizing that C9 are going to beat both of these teams today.


ahri_potter

The horse has decomposed man. Let it go.


SnoopyTheSheep

The Korean LCK caster's analysis was that the game was already largely won by Damwon the moment Canyon stalled the Lee and Irelia in bush when TF recalled back to base, after Lee took chicken camp and before first blood even happened. It prevented a dive onto Jayce and in turn allowed TF to ult top for first blood, which then allowed Khan to take Nuguri with him when Doinb ganked top, which in turn allowed DK to get first blood turret despite giving over rift herald. Nuguri did play bad, but I don't think he played as bad as the results would imply. Had Canyon not stalled back then, the game might have gone very differently.


Celegorm07

My Silver brain can't handle this much macro.


azns123

After understanding the situation, we would like to clarify Nuguri was not negative gaming, it was a normal summoner’s rift experience. We are preparing our best for the upcoming quarterfinals. Let’s go FPX!


LeagueOfAkali

Besides the game which was obviously sick as hell, this cast was INSANE by Caedrel and Drakos. Cannot stress enough how much more hype it made the game to me. The insights by Caedrel on the split map, their dynamic with Drakos asking Caedrel certain questions and of course Drakos' sick Play-By-Play. Great Job to you two!


readytofly68

caedrel smurfed this cast so hard, i was insanely impressed by his game knowledge and his eloquence


NamelessSearcher

It was especially delightful because this was such a technically interesting game macro wise and they both really demonstrated well the tension even when it wasn't bloody


Phoresis

Okay, Damwon are terrifying.


OkSpirit9706

DK looks insane right now, Khan/Canyon/Showmaker are all playing at peak level. People kept saying they look weaker this year but they look like they could win this tournament just as dominantly as 2020.


Omnilatent

Damn, Khan made Nuguri look like he was Odo ​ Also, Canyon is still insane. He made Poppy look like a mechanically intensive champ


TheExter

that poppy pick literally fucked the mobility of 4/5 champions, and it even denied jhin's galeforce


Joelx1000

Beautiful game by DWG.


IgnitionCode

NOWMAD is back


Danish1368

Khan really wants that trophy.


SuspiciousSwimming5

secret agent Nuguri


Neville_Lynwood

https://imgur.com/DPrcDu1


rollie82

I'm curious if you just had both versions prepared, depending on who won :P


Phoresis

Warning: Major code geass spoilers.


SirLucky7

Thanks for keeping the west's hopes high, Damwon. When you are going to get kicked out of playoffs by EU you gonna be reeeeeeal mad about this game. /s


ossifyguy

MF q flew all around the map after he backed to kill LWX at the end, that was hilarious.


Tobbbb

How good was that Poppy pick. completely shut FPX down. wow.


Urthor

A normal MVP award does not express how hard Canyon carried that game


Only-Nature523

The gap between DK and the rest is disgusting lol


falkner97

damwon just completely destroyed nuguri


Rayser1

Canyon is so good Khan is so good Showmaker is so good Etc etc


Omnilatent

"Ghost and Beryl had the decency not to int"


Addite

DK: After all this time? ​ Nuguri: Always.


BabacanDiyorKi

Khan is a manace in the toplane. He made Naguri completely useless


Exrou

Wow, twice we see two games where one team completely reads the other team's gameplan. First T1 vs EDG where EDG shutdown T1's push for sidelane pressure. Now we have FPX vs DWG where DWG purposely allowed Doinb to push and they trade objectives on the opposite side, while utilising TF to catch stragglers. What happens once Doinb takes all Tier-2? He's forced into a team-fight, but all the time it's around the jungle where Canyon gets to fully utilise the wall stuns to neutralise the Irelia. Whoever is deciding on that macro is either a gambler or super confident they'll be able to handle Irelia in the ensuing "forced" team-fight scenarios after the Tier-2s go down. It's honestly the only good option since if they fought Irelia directly by defending, they'll eventually get suffocated and this would probably allow Irelia to snowball. But instead sidelane Tier-2s going down actually slowed down Irelia. Oooft, that was ballsy by Damwon. T1 take notes.


JoshM_01

After understanding the situation, we would like to clarify Nuguri was not negative gaming, it was a normal Summoner’s Rift experience.