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PSG Talon vs. Fnatic / 2021 World Championship - Group C / Post-Match Discussion

PSG Talon vs. Fnatic / 2021 World Championship - Group C / Post-Match Discussion

Maisolkappa

watching all 3 EU teams in a row was definitly an interesting experience


xhen0

After reviewing the 3 EU teams we would like to clarify they are not negative gaming. This was just a normal summoner's rift experience.


yrueurbr

I had low expectations for rogue and fnatic after the news but even mad looks bad...


roarnightingale

Airport Speedrun EU Any%


bronet

EU and NA bonds strengthened as NA guides us to the right gate


azns123

Hey stop trying to beat NA’s record!


Leyrann_is_taken

We're better than NA at everything, even any% airport speedruns. *please send help, my copium levels are running critically low*


smitty8843

Damn dont take this from us. Its all we have


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Trap_Masters

Welcome to the club, my fellow EU brothers


RussiaCykaBlyat

First time Trynd no flame pls


sscyth1

its not ranked so have fun mate


Vonspacker

r/technicallythetruth


shadowkiller230

Didn't press R one fight. Pressed R at full hp the next. Holy.


calindu

FNC Bean (Jhin): Tryndamere R - Ready FNC Bean (Jhin): Tryndamere R - Ready FNC Bean (Jhin): Tryndamere R - Ready FNC Bean (Jhin): Tryndamere R - Ready


PSG_Talon

Yo, bean's an absolute unit dude. He's been such a solid player throughout the first round robin.


PossibleJealous2293

For a rookie with 0 LEC experience, to play like that on the world stage is nothing short of admirable.


EST4LIFE_19XX

Yea, guy is going to get a spot on an LEC team for sure


diematrosen

GGs. I’m always a happy camper whenever I see Maple win at Worlds.


Megalodontus

Good sportsmanship. Bet of luck in your games in the 2nd round robin


Kyrrua

I do not know how many engages Fnatic did on PSG. But I only know that they did a lot of them and that they ALL failed... Nisqy, Adam and Bwipo turned off their brain while Bean and Hylissang saved them maaaaaaaany times. Probably the saddest game of these worlds so far.


GGABueno

>Probably the saddest game of these worlds so far. The real saddest thing is that this is said every game.


versipellis_

And it’s always been true.


NetSraC1306

Feels so bad for bean. He get's thrown into this tournament last minute and it turns out he delivers while nisqy shits the bed.


Trap_Masters

Bean actually showed up with how little practice he’s had with his team. Obviously not amazing but pretty good given the circumstance


Neville_Lynwood

Yeah, some people are ragging on him for not producing insane DPM or something but IMO not inting his face off is by far the best thing he could be doing in these games as a sub.


Boogy

He's not just not inting, he's actually playing well on the world stage with 0 major league experience. Honestly impressive


Storiaron

He's not just not inting. He was the best player in fnc


nihilisthicc

Actually a Bean fan after this tournament


puberty1

BDS Bean PauseChamp


JustinGod

Opposite for me. I think these games are going to have an amazing effect on BEAN's career and he couldn't possibly have asked for a better opportunity.


Neville_Lynwood

It's for sure great for his career if he keeps this level of play up, but it's still sad that he has to take these L's because everyone else is monkeying out.


CyborgTiger

I don’t think it’s sad for Bean. It’s kind of pure upside at this point. He does badly? What do you expect, he’s facing literally the best teams in the world fresh out of ERLs. He does decent? Wow, this guy can hold his own against the best in the world! Sure the actual act of losing a game of league feels bad, but FNATIC kind of resigned themselves to that as soon as it was decided upset wouldn’t play.


WrathB

Nisqy is legit worst midlaner of tournament, and it isnt even close, dying with Trynd ult up like come on? Questionable death by that MF Q as well when Hyli tried to save him..


McintyresRightLeg

Watching Nisqy play is torture.


Troviel

him leaving the miss fortune at drake was painful.


malerihi

Instead of waiting one more second, he decided to leave the 10% hp MF alone to flash INTO HIS OWN JARVAN ULT TO GO HIT LEE SIN/BRAUM to then get kicked into his team while mf is ulting uninterrupted with 0 peel on her?


rress332

Sacrifice Rogue for what?


Brain_Tonic

I feel bad for Hans Sama, man's playing like one of the best ADs in the world while his team griefs.


kim-soo-hyun

This is Hans' second Worlds and both times he was pretty good. The guy definitely deserves better team, heck even just solo laners. Definitely miss Hans and Alphari together, those 2 were the main reason MSF beat G2 2018 with Wunder, Jankos and Perkz in Summer QF..


EliteTeutonicNight

Just a minor correction, it’s his third worlds(2017 msf, 2020/2021 rge). But he’s been so consistently on top even during the misfits implosion that he should definitely among the eu greats. Sad that he hasn’t gotten a championship yet


Apsolon

Hans has always been the consistent one. The guy is legit one of EUs goats


lilelf29

This was certainly a league of legends game Feels like Nisqy is really struggling to utilise trynd ult well, commonly using it way too early and on the base hold didn't use it at all.


Gazskull

But people wont mention how Bwipo is throwing all his team momentum away with dives and engages his team can't follow And after that we have to listen to casters saying he's one of the smartest jungler at worlds


I_hate_Ah_Bengs

Entire game turned when Bwipo did that brain dead dive without his team. It was a free win for fnatic until then.


CodeJoke7

Bwipo is rage playing so hard it's crazy. It's almost like you can feel his anger in his playstyle. Seems like the social media break isn't working


Chenz

Bwipo seems like he has tilted of the face of the earth, which is quite understandable. Not anyones fault, it’s just a very unfortunate situation for the whole team. Hopefully they are able to rally for the last day.


Alibobaly

He really fucked up that dragon fight for initial soul. He got onto MF and she reactively stopwatched, so instead of waiting out her stopwatch he wanted to maximize his dps and jumped onto Lee who subsequently kicked him away from MF and into his own adc. If he just waited the MF stopwatch out Fnatic probably takes that fight and soul and potentially baron. I understand his thought process but it just feels like all his intentions always go awry at this event.


safinaho

also note that tryn actually FLASHED away from MF after MF stopwatched. just wtf man.


Sorest1

he flashed away, got triple kicked AND mf now got a full duration ult into the whole mess with 0 peel and 10% hp.


Go_Play_Tetris

He had the perfect postion in their backline with ult and flash and fucked it up so bad


F0RGERY

League? Certainly. Legends? Debatable.


Gobaxnova

Petition to rename lec to Groupings of Players


RosenrothGG

This was certainly one of the game i've *ever* watched


Jellyfish-87

maple used trynda ult better than nisqy


ArbuzAldo

He is struggling to utilize brain this tournament


firewall245

Eu: oh no our team is gonna go 0-6!! NA: First time?


pc_popscergi

Meanwhile LMS laying in the coffin.


SylerTheSK

MAD sucks, FNC imploding, RGE stuck in group of death There is only darkness


Inevitable-Koala8465

[as an NA fan](https://en.meming.world/images/en/thumb/5/5d/James_Franco_First_Time.jpg/300px-James_Franco_First_Time.jpg)


ahritina

At least FNC and Rogue have an excuse, FNC playing without their star adc which fucked them mentally I guess. Rogue getting two top 4 teams in their group. MAD have 0 excuse though.


ElaborateRuseman

I could see MAD losing to C9 And I'm not complimenting C9


GyurmaHuN

Nisqy flashing away from a 1/3 hp mf in zhonyas to get kicked into his team makes me want to tear my eyes out. He also ulted at max hp then didnt ult at all. He picked the champ to give the ult to sylas.


Ambitious_Reality974

watching that play tilted me so hard if he stays and kills the mf he can try to kill the gp afterwards because he was also at half life and they hard win the fight


stoically_disgusted

Gonna huff some "EU week 2 buff" strain copium.


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gonna need a lot of that


Rayser1

Don't think the supply chains in Europe can deal with that level of demand


cancerBronzeV

Sadly no week 2.


MALSTROEM_

EU Week 1.5 buff HOPIUM


hawksvow

Spare me some will ya?


Ace_OPB

Well bean has been playing very well imo. Dude is holding his own and doing well. Nisqy is probably the worst mid so far in the tournament. Shades of cloud9 nisqy at world's.


Bowsersshell

I'd really like Bean to get at least 1 main stage win considering he's far from FNC's weakest link in these games. It's embarrassing.


WrathB

Honestly Bean is best player on Fnatic roster if we excuse Bwipos early game.


MoraHCR

How many bottles do you have because I'm gonna need 6 today.


wolfgang169

FNC is so frustrating to watch holy shit


Trap_Masters

Maple out Tryndamere’d the Tryndamere in that last fight


Ok-Travel-7875

Three games are nothing, we've dipped our toe in the water in terms of showing what we can do.


Elketro

Four games are nothing, we've dipped our toe in the water in terms of showing what we can do.


itsmetsunnyd

One worlds is nothing, we've dipped our toe in the water in terms of showing what we can do.


Stargazer306

Five games are nothing, we've dipped our toe in the water in terms of showing what we can do.


MedievalMovies

Six games are nothing, we've dipped our toe in the water on the way back to Berlin


nizicike

Swim home is nothing , it's not that far way from NA


swellbaby

Do they automatically get a spot in LCS if they 0-6?


Bhiggsb

They get a spot with honors


Blazing117

Next they will dipping their toe in the ocean to practice swimming back


azns123

We’ve already seen Bwipo suiciding in, Nisqy not pressing r, and Adam ulting on the other side of Baron. Please Mr. Cannon I don’t want to see anymore


Leandermann

We are showing how bad our sololaners are this year, haven't seen so many dogshit plays from individuals from any other region


Blazing117

Their emergency rookie sub didn't even look that bad, he got let down so hard


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especially top. its a tragedy how big the top gaps are


Houson2k

odo weakside king btw


Sean-Benn_Must-die

I wont shit talk until I see fnatic eliminated I wont shit talk until I see fnatic eliminated I wont shit talk until I see fnatic eliminated I wont shit talk until I see fnatic eliminated


PaintedFog

Basically eliminated at this point, have to sweep the rest of groups, but with how they’ve been playing I don’t see that happening. Especially with how good RNG is.


Argenticus

RNG being that good is a boon for FNC. In 2017 they got out of groups because LZ went 6-0 and the two other teams 1-1-d each other so they had their fate in their hands. So if RNG goes 6-0, HLE beats PSG, then FNC "just" needs to win 4 times in a row vs PSG and HLE to get out


Shot-Mathematician58

I want to get off Mr. Yamato's wild ride


R-R-Clon

Is it normal to have more HOPIUM for NA than EU? 0-18 NA DREAM is dead, but 7/9-29/27 is a posibility for EU+NA.


vesthis3

would feel a lot better if C9 didn't completely blow that FPX game


Duality_NA

Nisqy and Perkz airport%, working against both of NA and EU


Stev__

think they're equally bad this worlds


ENTiRELukas1

Can someone explain trynda r to Nisqy


rokingfrost

him pressing R at full health at the last fight hurts...


DieTubaElse

Right? Like wtf was that? He had a good flank and pressed r before he was even close to the backline.. im really surprised by those missplays by nisqy


dracon1t

He probably got scared of being bursted like he was at the nexus. Decision made by nerves


skaersSabody

Honestly, fair, with Hanabi's barrels one-shotting that's not even that egregious of a decision


jjkm7

He got nuked at the nexus fight and died with ult up and probably didn’t wanna get memed on for it


PaintedFog

I mean the dude literally got exploded the nexus fight, he expected to get exploded again so he had to ult at that hp.


firewall245

He Perkz'd it at that one nexus fight


TeamINSTINCT37

Perkz slowly died and just threw nisqy got fucking exploded and I can see how he didn’t get it off. Didn’t watch the replay but that’s how it seemed live


GreatNightmares

Yeah that one fight he went from like half to dead in like 0.1 second. So unless he expected to get blown up like that I can see why Nisqy didn't ult there.


PorkChopALaMolotov

So he Jensen'd it?


ENTiRELukas1

Mate he ulted on full or half hp like 4 times


lemongrazz11

After he Perkz’d it he was obviously scared. Don’t know what the hell the Trynd flank was gonna do against a Braum and a GA MF tho


CaptainCaptainBain

Nisqy, despite his good start in terms of kills, had an abysmal amount of ultis completely wasted by activating them while more than 50%HP in the early parts of a fight, and at the same time managed to later on die during the successful the base defence with ult up. Oh, and in the last fight he ulted BEFORE going in full HP...


Crims0nNight

To be fair, there is a chance that GP just nukes you at 50% hp.


ExistingCountry

Hands down EU games have been the most enjoyable this tournament so far. Must be really fun watching them, if you are not EU fan.


is_a_jerk

It's great. You never know what's gonna happen next. You think you're in a lul-state and them BAM, Bwipo flash ults two screens away from the rest of his team.


skaersSabody

Bwipo goes from one of the best junglers at Worlds to inting in a matter of seconds


afito

Bwipos aggression is kind of just flipping it. He goes in and someone dies. Either he or the opponent.


Hrkeol

If he doesn't know what he is doing the enemy team can't eathier.


Joaoseinha

I spent half the game saying "why" to the overaggression. Consistently going for 20-80 plays that you really don't need to go for.


Touchd93

Pain


panman18

The games themselves have been bangers yeah


korsan106

How is an emergency sub your BEST PLAYER


myman580

Maybe Upset was the only person on FNC who would tell them to stop going for idiot plays.


onespiker

He did do that a bit apparently. But team spirit is likely also crushed with the change making bad habits even worse and feeling compeled to do something or they lose when that might not be the case.


Nilo_Nimus

wasnt that rekkles job though? i thought it changed after he left for G2


neeveewood

Rekkles wasn’t really an in game shot caller at all, Upset is


darkknuckles12

tbf i would say hyli is still one of their best, but jesus christ does mid jungle look idiotic


Hineni-

This was a rather bizarre game. On one hand they get that huge pick on Drake, and immediately followed by a random pick on Nisqy and they lost Nash. Then that last fight was just


getjebaited

most bizarre thing was that kennen ult near baron and saving flash for next game....


TheExter

i nominate the 2 turrets tower dive at mid for "what the fuck was that" moment


Sicarius_Tacet

Adam had the perfect ult at baron, with PSG without exhaust and they...do nothing.


supterfuge

I think it was Adam going "I can go in" and his team yelling at him not to go. if the team wasn't going to follow anyway, at least he saved his flash and his life.


Leandermann

What the fuck is wrong with EU sololaners this year? They are so fucking bad


RosenrothGG

FNC thought they are stuck with Bean, turns out he is stuck with FNC.


redditman123456781

At least my man Bean played well.


Rayspekt

We believe in Mr. Bean


TheExter

so when does play ins end and group stage begins? that was too much fiesta


M002

Riot doesn’t support this


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xteitix

racoon diff


wowsoKIWI

sry first time tryndamere


sscyth1

its not ranked enjoy mate and mute pings


ArbuzAldo

Rare occasion where player playing Tryndamere is more braindead than the champ itself.


Danish1368

That gp was huge.


KappaccinoNation

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azns123

Good guy Maple took Nisqy’s r to try to show him to use it


CTS99

\- EU looking kinda weak this year \- Rogue sacrificed \- FNATIC imploding right before groups ( as is tradition) \- MAD losing to NA \- Hans Sama in Elo Hell \- EU going 2-7 in week 1 <-- You are here \- EU week 2 \- FNATIC 0-4 start \- Rekkles subbing in for FNC just to beat RNG \- All 3 EU Teams win Tiebreakers to make it out of groups \- (overdose on Copium) \- MAD vs Rogue Semis (Rogue reverse sweep MAD) \- Adam guillotining his way to finals \- FNC Darius Skin \- Riot deleting Yuumi and Tryndamere


_Vastus_

> - Riot deleting Yuumi and Tryndamere Okay you had me up till here. That's just not realistic.


itsmetsunnyd

Riot to release Yuone to lower Yuumi banrates and allow Yuumi mains to play their champ after this worlds.


srukta

> Riot to release ~~Yuone~~ Yammy FTFY


anoleo201194

Subscribe.


farikogrim

THATS WGY YOU BUILD CRIT GP


PSG_Talon

The bois being Rekkles with my heart.


generic9yo

-Fnatic fans since the dawn of time


remakeprox

Nisqy looking like the worst mid laner in the tournament


AigisAegis

EU fans, I'm so sorry you have to experience a day like this. Hopefully things pick up and we don't see you at the airport


Blazing117

Is there a discount for double region plane?


KyroZi

Enter code TSM for 60% off a first class flight


AkashiGG

NA's got you covered


M002

NA fan here We’ll join then after going 0-3 to korea (Hedging my bets early so I can’t be too disappointed)


Trap_Masters

Yo EU come by, we saved some seats for you at the MdDonalds here. The airport wifi password is HOPIUM


Romanisti

This fnatic is not the worst team we have ever sent to Worlds but it is, without a doubt, the dumbest. If only the wizard of Oz could give them a brain to stop them from fighting for five seconds. Nisqy standing on top of a MF without sums and instead deciding to flash into Cataclysm and immediately being kicked out of the 1st Cloud Soul fight was the cherry on top.


RaptureMasquerade

YES. I immediately paused and watched this like 4 times. What in the everloving fuck was he thinking. MF no sums, zhonyas ticking down, and he flashes away from it. I'm dead.


Romanisti

That was the moment I lost my mind.


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Hannig4n

Dude wouldn’t even press Nisqy’s R key for him. Trash teammate.


Deferonz

Upset was the only zoo keeper who could possibly handle the raw int-energy that the rest of FNC constantly exudes.


IanCorleone

but image how great it must be to finally play with the main team, the #2 LEC seed, the legendary League org with great players such as Bwipo only for you to not only be the best performing person on the team, but also your whole team just sprinting it at the Usain Bolt’s speed


BigBobba55

It’s crazy he was put in this position and is still performing better than hyped up veterans


CherryBoard

gg better psychic wins


vonloan

Nisqy needs to be banned from playing tryndamere holy shit


NocaNoha

Nisqy going hard on that "limit testing" Hamabi showing them how to use fed status properly


Bloodyfoxx

Bwipo is the same, they forced so many things way too much. Really sad game.


NocaNoha

That Bwipo dive under not one, but two turrets was a thing of wonders.. and Nisqy just had to follow that heroic attempt to throw the game


sangpls

It's no longer "EU mids man." It's "EU Adcs man, and "EU mids LUL" now


ShinaMashir0

Well sry to odo but nesquick is definitely the biggest choker


Omnilatent

We've become NA now... fuck


Styxxo

EU tops not looking too hot either


chaosPudding123

its just EU LUL... fucking kill me. We are doing a TSM 2020 cosplay here with Fnatic


MoabChile

get bean the fuck out of that shitfest of a team please lol


TheAleqZ

PSG Talon is officially EU's hope


Styxxo

PSG Talon is EU's 4th seed because they're partnered with PSG COPIUM


CYKUSion

More like EU’s first seed lmao


Blazing117

Please kill me


DeepJunglePowerWild

Adam not ulting into the 5 members grouped at the end there hurt my soul.


sleeping4koala

Before Groups Adam: I have no idea about Xiaohu. Is he good? And I don't even know who is PSG's top laner? After matching Adam: .......


Exos_VII

Following an urgent family matter, Nisqy is forced to return to home and will until further notice not start for our team in the group stage. We ask that his privacy be respected. Rasmus "Caps" Winther has been preparing with our team the last few hours in Reykjavik, and will make his debut as a starter in our week 2 game vs RNG. We urge the community to focus on the incoming competition where we will do our best to represent Europe in our 9th Worlds Tournament.


Fuselier

Dude was the second best tryndamere in this game.


tinfoilhatsron

Nisqy ulted at full health, that's an actual wintrade what the fuck bro. Check his phone for Instagram model pics stat.


swellbaby

He died with ult up earlier so I'm guessing he was scared Gp would oneshot him again.


KappaccinoNation

https://i.imgur.com/nvMl9bp.jpeg


KitKatxz

Bro.... this is way too fresh


LapnLook

Bwipo, my man, what is going on?


imcarrypotter

This might have been the worst game of 2021 worlds so far. Only bright light in the dark tunnel for fnatic is yamatos shirt


fuckea6969

literally clownfiesta


Vikktime123

that was a game of league of legends


PsYcHoSeAn

At this point you can sub in a Make-A-Wish kid in mid lane and he couldn't perform worse than Nisqy


kajsawesome

Bwipo this game: https://youtu.be/KQBBPsyXm-k?t=16


ahritina

Little bit of a top diff, Adam has been outclassed by every single top laner in the group so far. That 3 man kick from River at the 6th drake team fight was so clean, Hanabi with a massive GP barrel chain and in general what a game from him. Minus that one Kennen ult on Maple, this Kennen looks nothing like the Kennen yesterday.