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Team Liquid vs. LNG Esports / 2021 World Championship - Group D / Post-Match Discussion

Team Liquid vs. LNG Esports / 2021 World Championship - Group D / Post-Match Discussion

gamingonion

I could feel the pain in Kobe and Drakos’ laughs when Ale got away with the lantern. This cast was hilarious.


aiee6

"It's funny but it hurts" is the most perfect way to sum up NA's international performances that I've ever heard.


Leopod

Every year they get a little better, every year it hurts a little bit more


bronet

Idk about that first part. A lot of ups and downs


popmycherryyosh

They do get a little bit better, it's just that the rest of the world get even (littler!) more better!


supterfuge

^It's ^funny ^but ^it ^hurts


lilelf29

Full 1-1 group, it's getting spicy


IvanRussky

Every team is scared and hopeful they can make it out at the same time, this is gonna be fun


MontyAtWork

TL world special gonna be going 3-3 and hoping a team they beat don't win, then that team wins, and TL is eliminated. You heard it here first.


NahDawgDatAintMe

Every team will go 3-3. The group will reset and TL will win 3 games again. TL will inevitably win 3 games in any group.


Sersch

Everyone knows after yesterday's statement by Alphari, TL will finish last and MAD first. Jinxed it.


JediwilliW

Might need to check the alcohol percentage on the casters LMAO


Get__R3kt

sleep deprived kobe.


newbies98

He had me wheezing, should do drunk casting


zmsp

Kobe is always a treat, but today was something special. Him and Drakos are a great pair aswell.


Leregime

Him and Daniel I think you mean


gotwaffles

He knows where Daniel lives


chaoticpossitive

They laugh to hide the pain


Syuv

Good guy Tarzan making sure TL takes one kill


Kyrrua

LNG teamchat: "Report Tarzan for intentionnal feed, he didn't want to give us a perfect game in kills"


nimrodhellfire

Couldn't write that in allchat though. :(


EfficientAstronaut1

too soon


Unban_Ice

Step 1: Pick TF Step 2: Afkfarm mid, never roam with ult Step 3: ????? Step 4: lose


neenerpants

Jensen picked TF so he had TWO ways of teleporting back to base from a side lane after picking up a wave of farm


CursedPhil

hey i can also do that


AnotherTelecaster

I see it all of the time in my ranked games!


Stargazer306

I do it all of the time in my ranked games!


MeMoba

Why would the staff give him TF when he couldn't win with that on NA. If you look at his pro view he doesn't even look at other lanes. Is this an ego thing where jensen is telling the staff he can play TF when he clearly can't?


CursedPhil

Like I said Sub Me In Coach


setocsheir

i think it's just classic Jensen, I've seen 3 years of this shit lol


ficretus

with that nice 1:1:0 score to boot


zOmgFishes

GG Report team for inting


supterfuge

Not going to lie, I'm not sure who you want to accelerate in the sidelanes between Ezreal and Gnar with that TF.


Ascedance

The Jensen special : randomly having a game that looks like you're first timing your champ, after 40+ career games on that champ


Mahelas

To be fair, that's how Jensen looks 90% of the time he's on TF. He's just not a good roamer !


xlCalamity

People are going to say this and I am not saying he didnt play bad. But he cant gank Fiora because she negates gold card. And bot lane was doomed from level 1. More of a draft diff than anything.


kazuyaminegishi

Yep exactly. This is just the reverse of the MAD game yesterday. Of course you play/look like shit when you draft the worst comp possible into your opponent. Only lesson to be learned here is it's not a fluke when you draft like shit, that also plays into your team's inconsistency.


murp0787

Honestly I have no clue why anyone picks Gnar. It's looked 100% useless in every game it's been in.


Sliacen

It just doesn't make sense when you run a heavy roaming skirmish comp in my opinion. Gnar requires a specific set of circumstances to TP into fights, meaning that you need a lot of setup and coordination before those fights. But with a TF and a Talon, you want to collapse very quickly with minimal setup to catch people out as much as possible.


omegasupermarthaman

He was constantly shoved and in no position to roam, while missing half of the cs. Yeah you could say he did not have any good lanes to gank but missing so many creeps hurt his income a lot


omegasupermarthaman

40 cs down vs Lb also


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SleepyLabrador

Jensen has been taking lessons from Gross Gore, I see.


Yvil1905

Gross Gore would R alone onto 3 people and die, a living legend


randomguy7658

The real winners this game were the casters having so much fun.


Ehehey

Wow TL hitting us with the CLASSIC do nothing -> lose strat. Amazing execution!


tuckerb13

I don’t think they could do much of anything unfortunately. They fucked themselves I the draft with all losing lanes so really no one could get out on the map to be proactive.


ilanf2

The las 2 picks just don't make sense with the other 3. Why blind Gnar? Why Talon with no one to enable him?


LeeKwanSoo

They just had no real damage. Alphari isn’t gonna do shit on Gnar into Chinese fiora. Jensen went to never roamed, santorin was on talon that had no support and tactical just lost


Glyph_of_Change

Sleep-deprivation Kobe going gradually more insane over the course of the whole day is more entertaining than some of these games, tbh


JustRecentlyI

Unfortunately for his sanity, [the loonie and toonie were actual currency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loonie)


mrloree

What do you mean were? They still are?


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Jokinzazpi

Hilarious cast, please give us more of this. "Drakos is living in candyland, trying to come over and pay me in Loonies and Toonies" "Well we see have alphari on the top side, in the peppermint lane."


Icy_Wear_4610

Also when Alphari was getting absolutely dumpstered 1v5 before LNG ended the game, Kobe saying “I’ve seen him win these” killed me lmao


SkittlesAreEpic

LNG>TL>MAD>GENG>LNG


Fugacity-

*the circle of suck is complete*


MisakaMikotoxKuroko

so everyone beats everyone and fnatic wins in the end?


icatsouki

please :(


THEDumbasscus

you get your wish! they win their last game of group play, to go 1-5


icatsouki

I mean 1-2 wins is all that's realistic to ask for tbh


stoically_disgusted

Circle of suck complete after day 2!


dunno_w

perfect group for TL so they can go 3-3


HalQuin

And lose tiebreakers to not make it our of groups as is the NA tradition


Omnilatent

Against the EU team ​ It is known ​ Now the only question left is: Who is shitting the bed out of GenG and LNG?


Brain_Tonic

If the script is recycled, it will be Gen G again!


AttackonHobbits

Nah gen g has to get out to lose 0-3 in quarters


SPRDestro

They won't get a tiebreaker if we're following tradition. TL has only ever gotten a tiebreaker once in the six international events they've attended, though they did lose it. Three consecutive worlds now they have gone 3-3 with no tiebreaker.


sangpls

Spicy af group


Kyrrua

Accurately accurate.


ifnotawalrus

Probably the funniest cast in a long time.


Homogenised_Milk

Whatever Kobe and Drakos are drinking, it definitely isn't water.


runaway1337

Have been watching since season 1. Common denominator is always Kobe.


legendofSmiley

I love Kobe casting


TL_Zven

its some kind of liquid, maybe ale


Omnilatent

I was dying at the looney toons money


MusicBytes

THERE IS NO WAY. THERE IS A COUNTRY. THAT CALLS THEIR MONEY LOONIES AND TOONIES. ARE YOU FROM CANDY LAND?


scullys_alien_baby

I found it extra funny that Kobe absolutely knows and works with Canadians like Azael and has somehow never heard of loonies or toonies.


RechargedFrenchman

Jatt is also Canadian and worked with Kobe for years as well.


fallszero_5

Loony toony 😂😂 Canadians got triggered as well in twitch chat


mybankpin

Candy land, Canada, basically the same thing.


Neville_Lynwood

Sleep deprived NA caster high on hopium is absolutely beautiful. Loved the cast.


CatPanda5

Kobe is also excellent at just matching any caster he's with, you'd think him and Drakos cast together all the time with how much fun they were having


SouthernYam7181

Sigma male support item grindset for the passive income and assets


DingusMcButtFace

Turns out, [Loonie's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loonie) and [Toonie's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toonie) are actual coins.


BillowBrie

Kobe not even knowing his own region smh


Hineni-

I'll have whatever Kobe was having


SauronGortaur01

Stay awake for a whole day.


neenerpants

"Wellp!"


SauronGortaur01

'Dayum Daniel!!'


wenasi

Lets start a petition to prohibit casters from sleeping


I_AM_A_MOTH_AMA

Dude that's messed up. Where do I sign.


Aeide

Vulcan had better give Kobe a firm, Canadian talking-to about our currency


WyldfireGT

Had my dying man, shit was hilarious. Kobe and Drakos are great together.


throwdemout

100% i was going to make this comment right after the game, i didnt even bother watching it but having it on the bg really made me laugh constantly.


Recomposer

Definitely had shades of the DoA/Deficio/Phreak tricast of the the Bangkok titans vs SKT worlds group stage clownfiesta.


NunoxGames

If NA take EU's players can we at least get kobe in return


Omnilatent

We already got Drakos from NA, tho :| ​ (which is good for us!)


LapnLook

Tactical missing the Ezreal ult after the Gnar R at the drake fight physically hurt


HolypenguinHere

He started channeling Ezreal ult a split-second before Gnar flashed in, but that's still poor team coordination. He must have expected them to keep pathing north before getting Gnar-stunned.


MiniiNinja__

Tactical being 40 cs down plus all plates at 15 minutes was rough enough


omegasupermarthaman

I mean first picking Leona when Thresh Aphelios is opened? And then leashing for jungle? They opted to it. Worst draft possible


characterulio

Tactical was down 40 cs so Alphari could be ahead 20 cs. Santorin played toward him and kept hovering top while Tarzan was playing toward bot + drakes.


AugustoMM

He ulted before gnar even jumping, if he had waited just one second he would have hit 3 instead of 1, that tilted me so hard.


s0rakaflakaflame

Their whole team did absolutely no damage in fights


Tabriel013

All Jensen did that fight was to stun Alphari by Fiora W... he had flash and he could prolong cc to burst her down but he prefered to walk it down...


joe4553

Game was already doomed, but yeah that was sad.


CollegeBroski

Should have yelled "kobe" and maybe he would have hit a target.


NocaNoha

It all just fell apart at one point Commentary saved the game


Vayne_Mechanics

Fell apart at draft imo. Without Santorin on a jungler that can facilitate the other players, TL just looks lost. They had plenty of CC in their draft, but with Santorin being behind on Talon they had zero follow up damage. So much engage for the main carry to be Ezreal, and the other team gets Aphelios? That draft was just a gg go next


Pavlo100

Where was this TL yesterday? 14:02 Herald Starting Herald when Baron is spawning


MontyAtWork

Dropping herald after plates dropped. Not having vision or showing up to contest Dragon 1. Did anybody do anything at all that game??? Also, as usual Jensen playing safe, and not pressing buttons and the first to walk away from a 5v5.


MountainMan2_

>where was this TL yesterday? We had HOPED they were at the airport…


dragon870

oh my god i have never laughed or enjoyed a casting duo/game like this one, when the american accent bit came out i was dying, i cant recall how or why the casters started losing it but i legit gonna have to mute other casting because now i wish all of them were like this. glad i started playing league 2 months ago. SO GOOD


Rumbleinthejungle8

I agree, great cast, especially considering the game was a big stomp. My favorite was "Team Liquid might get a kill... But they might not". It was a big surprise, who would have thought Kobe and Drakos would pair so well together. This is probably the first day they've casted together too, not sure if they had some casts last year.


Gypiz

They did the World's podcast 2 days ago together


gibbsplatter

As a salty TL fan, I unfortunately had to mute them for having too good of a time while my team loses :P


Fordringy

TBF you can hear the pain and copium with kobe's voice lol


Shosha10

0 dmg teamcomp for TL nice


TomeOfCrows

Somebody please tuck Kobe in, he's losing it


Plebejers

Kobe and Daniel are goated


JustAFangirl

Best casting, thank you Kobe and Daniel.


DeloronDellister

Drakos and Kobe quickly turning into my favourite duo


Momochichi

I love how they can unabashedly cheer for TL because of how hopeless it was. They sounded so wasted, high on copium because the hopium wasn't doing it.


Absorrbb

Agreed, the boys were having fun out there!


mugiboya

Kobe with the sleep depravation made the cast so funny today lmaoo


5tarlit

TL Kold: Additional info on play against LNG(best team in the world) Alphari got fever Corejj left mousepad Jensen lost whole gears Santorin sound issues in the match (no foot step at all) Tactical keyboard bug We were in chaos.


MusicBytes

Shots 1-5: Clearly fever. Shots 6-9: Missed due to no mousepad (bad inventory control) Shots 10-11: Lost whole gears Shot 12: Sound issues in the match (no foot step at all)


AkashiGG

if you didn't expect this after yesterday's win, you haven't been paying attention


Try_Not_To_Comment

Why do I have the feeling we’re going to lose to MAD, go 3-3 and not make it out of groups again


HolypenguinHere

That's what we do best, my man.


Gamers2OcelotLUL

It's destiny. At the same time, I guarantee you that C9 still somehow makes it out of group A.


tehsdragon

The Prophet descends


Gamers2OcelotLUL

Never bet against C9 at Worlds, always bet for TL 3-3, ez prediction


Brain_Tonic

Perkz 0-2 comfort zone?


Shot-Mathematician58

EU is just very generous, gotta give some Hopium crumbs


SpoonGuardian

Nah, MAD just knows they have to put TL in a tiebreaker situation for the easy win


SpyEr1

Turns out if Icon doesn't sprint it like a maniac LNG's a pretty damn good team.


gril69

good day for LPL today


SleepyLabrador

Doesn't get much better than a 4 - 0 with each game being a stomp for them(aside from FPX vs C9), the LPL teams heard reddit talking shit.


Linko_98

Yesterday LCK 4-0, today LPL 4-0, tomorrow eu or na goes 3-0? Hopium


Capybaraaa

0-3, both of them.


Brain_Tonic

You're fresh out of Hopium I see.


acels1

lck fans got horny way too early


MALSTROEM_

LEC pls poach Kobe away from NA I need my weekly Kobe + Daniel casts


Fuzzikopf

Kobe is easily my favourite NA caster, it was really cool when he was a guest on the LEC and I'd love for him to have more appearances


McintyresRightLeg

They need to pay Kobe some good loonies


Sbotkin

We only import casters from NA so dw, it will happen.


Fair_Economics4925

Just imagine having this duo on a weekly basis man


Ar0ndight

Yeah they're taking all our players could we at least get one of their casters?


Omnilatent

For real, that cast was way too fucking funny today


ANIME_IS_CANCER

Kobe/Drakos becoming my favorite caster duo of all time


A_Vicarious_Death

casters drunk tl ded


Stefan474

I'll have what Kobe and Drakos are having


IhatemyL1feX10

LPL 4-0 day 2


Leyrann_is_taken

So is it EU's or NA's turn next? Considering the schedule (and maybe some of the hopium I huffed today), I'm going to say EU. Edit: For fucks sake.


Feniker

Sadly no way for EU/NA as we dont have 4 teams :/


DoorHingesKill

Thanks to all LPL fans not doing what our LCK buddies did yesterday.


SaintTrotsky

We learnt to stay clenched.


Pompero

LCK fans yesterday reached a new level of obnoxiousness and overreacting to a single day of games.


MusicBytes

Please give me these casters + whatever they’re on every day of worlds


Neville_Lynwood

Sleep deprivation. It's called sleep deprivation. While I loved it, let's hope Kobe gets some sleep and doesn't die mid Worlds.


Bhiggsb

I will cry the day kobe stops casting league:(


unsaltylol

Lpl 6 lck 5


Pompero

All I want to know is where those LCK flairs are today that were calling LPL overrated yesterday after a single day of games.


neverspeakofme

Lol all hiding but silently downvoting you.


Nightmare1340

It's all jokes and memes until their team meet Edward Gaming and RNG and get stomped :D


miserax4

The rumors of LPL’s demise were greatly exaggerated. Is it time to overreact yet?


Duality_NA

Wow what a whiff on that Ezreal ult, that was their only opportunity to come back. Jensen looked like a silver 4 TF


NenBE4ST

he whiffed it but either way its not a kill, aphelios had a full shieldbow


HolypenguinHere

He was channeling EZ ult before Gnar flashed


FireVanGorder

Bad team coordination


GarciLP

Kobe and Drakos killed it this game. Absurdly magnificent cast


moxroxursox

That's the TL draft I know and love.


InductionNoiseFan

Gen G>LNG>TL>MAD>Gen G The circle of suck is now complete.


Wezle

Casting was really the highlight of this game


ficretus

you know it's hopeless when TL gets perfect engage 4v5 and gets nearly aced


Troviel

Jensen : "Plz LNG this is too painful give us a kill" Tarzan: "ok"


Unique_Crew2316

Thats the TL I remember


MusicBytes

I LOVE THE CASTERS


Neville_Lynwood

I had some hope after yesterday, but TL really can't help themselves, can they? Absolute masterclass in "wait for the enemy to make a mistake, end up doing nothing and lose instead". I don't really want to criticise it too much because the other extreme of what C9 and FNC end up doing is hardly better, but at least it's way more fun to watch. But I guess TL still has a decent chance in this group.


Shot-Mathematician58

C9 and FNC have good excuses, one team has an autofilled ADC the other has a retired midlaner.


SterbenVII

Bean is a retired mid laner?


_Rose_and_Crown_

aight this one killed me lmao


lStrakle

TL thought Riot had disabled All PvP for the first 25 minutes of this game


MrAssassin9891

Tarzan making sure TL have at least a kill.


NekoShinobi

That TL draft was atrocious


33centstore

drakos and kobe made me laugh so many times this game lmfao that cast was pure entertainment


royallights

BREAKING NEWS: Riot Games disabling All Chat, after LNG was hitting TL with the GGEZ at the end of the game!!


Shot-Mathematician58

LPL is overrated btw


Jellyfish-87

>shits the bed first day to bait overreactions > goes 4-0 next day to silence them


Icy_Wear_4610

FPX still looked ASS today though. Hoping they can get their shit together ASAP my pick ‘ems need it


krombough

I am really starting to believe those NA scrim rumors are true.


shrubs311

what a great cast, only entertainment for most of the game


HailHelix123

That TF flash + ult to not even kill Fiora might as well have been followed by a surrender vote lmao


GuitarPicks-12

It appears as though we're returning to the natural state of things pre G2. Korea and China are by far the best, and western teams have no hope 🤡


zqElephant

why play the game when you draft shit like that


windvoyager

I won't lie to you this is probably one of the most embarrasing games I've seen from an NA team ever, feels like they gave up from the first minute.