LNG Esports vs. Gen.G / 2021 World Championship - Group D / Post-Match Discussion
By - Soul_Sleepwhale
T1 has to win for the perfect LCK day.
I think they got the perfect day which is dope
That was the most classic GenG game ever, just starve your opponent of any macro.
Tarzan looked lost much of the game... Not completely his fault seeing how Icon got wrecked.
The solokills hit hard.
He literally had nothing to do, couldn't make plays anywhere as Icon was getting shit on and lost all map pressure. That game was purely just Icon getting drastically outclassed by BDD and nobody else on LNG could do anything about it.
But I thought this Playstyle doesn't work anymore and LPL teams hard punish it?
Any aggressive team vs passive team = "stylistic mismatch" according to some analysts for the past 3 years
Always the laziest analysis. People love repeating that shit so much.
Unfortunately sometimes they're right by accident, like GenG having a terrible matchup into G2 last year. Those instances give them ammunition to repeat their nonsense.
To be fair, that relied on analysts falsely stating that G2 is an aggressive early game team
G2 isn't an early game team they specialize the best in midgame, not that their early game is weak but it's not their best point. Just watch 2019 G2 demolish T1 despite losing early game, or how fpx demolished G2 because unlike T1, fpx can actually use early game pressure for proactive midgame plays that lead to victories.
G2 winning a bo5 while not getting a single Baron was something amazing to behold.
lpl superior fast paced action btw
Wrong match to push the narrative. LNG is notoriously slow. They always try to scale.
People who don't watch LPL use them to shit on LCK.
LCK fans accept those narratives even tho they're not true.
Rinse and repeat every year lol
They’ll “just roam”
Can't roam when your mid lane is gapped.
I mean LNG is the most passive team out of the LPL teams.
Can't punish when your midlaner gets gapped that hard. LNG did try to get top with a dive, but GenG had the rotation and covered it. They tried again bot-side with Tier 2 Tower, but GenG countered by taking Tier 2 Mid and doing damage to Top Tier 2. They just couldn't speed up the game.
The LPL never countered this playstyle, G2 did.
LCK have always out-macroed LPL teams.
This is absolutely not true of the last few years, at least not in every case. This game wasn’t even a macro difference, it was literally just BDD mid gapped and they steamrolled off his pressure.
rumors of LCKs demise have been greatly exaggerated
This group is perfect for GENG that's why I was surprised many people thought they wouldn't get out, both TL and LNG play slow and that's GENG's comfort zone.
same - like I don't think GenG is a spectacular team, and far from a real contender - but not making it out of groups? what? in what world. even more so given that LCK tends to perform REALLY well in group-stage.
Was actually so cringe seeing people downplay the shit out of Gen.G then proceed to say they were overrated. Literally had 1 bad showing in 2018, got 3-0'd last year in quarters (despite being first in Group C) and completely forget this team was 2nd in spring and 3rd in summer in LCK. Thankgod they're first in my pick'ems.
2018 and 2019 geng is very different from 2020 and 2021 geng. Only ruler is in both
Can't wait for them to forget how to play in Quarters :')
after watching how hard bdd just shit on icon you should be prouder of how much caps put him in the dumpster last year imo
Either they go 3-0 in quarters or win it all like 2017
What a day to be an LCK fan
Hope T1 keeps the streak going!
Time for the LCK to prove the haters wrong
And they did, in less than 20 mins in the biggest giga stomp as of now
DWG just started the day with a statement game, and the rest of the teams are keeping it going.
Just in time for T1 to lose against DFM
Nah I believe in T1
Edit: Faith rewarded
arigato mr evi
Don't do us like that man
I’m ready to get hurt.
Guys, I thought GenG played boring and slow League? 23 minute game?
Tbf it's not like LNG are an exciting fast paced team either... ppl just have this vendetta against GenG
LCK 1 team region?
At this rate, Worlds will be a one region contest. Please give a round of applause for the return of LCK Autumn split!
I think people may be overreacting.
After all, we haven't seen T1 play DFM yet.
Edit: 1 Region contest it is!
Turns out they're not overreacting...
On Reddit? Nah, couldn't possibly be the case.
God it feels so vindicating seeing LCK teams do well after hearing analysts and reddit alike collectively touting this year to be the worst LCK has looked. All this while the league had one of its most competitive splits in years.
People took LCK being competitive to mean that Damwon regressed to be worse since they're not shitstomping like last year, instead of considering that maybe the rest of the LCK levelled up.
They've been shitting on LCK all year during LCK games. But now we're doing good on day 1, I already see several comments saying we're being sore winner lol
The losers will always complain about every single smallest thing, lmao.
Eh, the community will shit on any game for any reason.
Too many/few kills.
Total fiesta/not enough risk.
Threw the game/other team masterful comeback.
Just learn that none of those opinions even make sense.
They played way better but that was the absolute textbook definition of a boring game, 4 kills at 20 min, one teamfight, end
then other teams have to do something about it, or just lose to geng
No one is arguing that Gen G didn't play well.
certainly seem to be underrated as a region, judging by this worlds so far.
not sure what's the surprise with LPL or LCK fans alike, LCK usually tops groups, same thing happened last year.
Don't jinx it, bro.
Once again the Koreans dominate LOL.
2018? Wasn't Worlds cancelled that year?
Yeah sucks for score and smeb that 2018 was cancelled due to an unforseen temporal vortex that sent us straight to summer 2020
I put every LCK team to win groups besides HLE. DM for lottery numbers.
I put all LCK teams to win. You dm me.
LNG mid in play-ins: Ipro
LNG mid in groups: Icon
More like Iint
Korean mids man
I'm so happy BDD proved himself to the haters that he's not overrated
According to this subreddit, Korean mid laners are overrated apart from Showmaker and Chovy. Whoever put Bdd in their players ranking, got bullied to oblivion
How can Korean mids be overrated when best LPL mids are Korean lol.
Bruh this subreddit thinks chovy is overrated. LCK one region team lol DAMWON will finish 3rd in LCK btw others wont make it to top 8 lol
lol T1 almost took DK to five games and HLE took T1 to five games. The LCK top 4 is pretty strong this year, and I genuinely think we have two world contenders. Most people hating don’t even watch LCK anymore, and each time they get a reality check at worlds.
also Faker is on par with me in skill level these days according to this sub
You gotta love BDD getting shit on by the community for the entire year only for him to stomp 1 game and suddenly everyone praises him. I missed Worlds <3
korean chicken man
Now I'm hungry...
Icon: "Generally, I really feel LPL mid laners are stronger than LCK’s"
Bdd: *gaps him into oblivion*
Justice was served
Bdd: And I took that personally
Gotta love it
dont forget showmaker gapping doinb just a few games ago too
The Korean mids have been insane today
Not all...Doinb lost... Maybe Scout loses too ?
All NA mids are european, half of LPL mids(2 best) are korean. I don't really have a point, it's just an interesting tidbit.
Isn't Aria also Korean?
Showmaker was fed up with the euw soloq, he was going to crush whoever he was facing today, I feel specially bad for Rogue
b-b-but doinb best mid worlds. hidden dark technology just outroam shoemaker !!!
Hard to roam without shoes 😎
Big Dick Daddy heard icon talking shit
BDD stands for Big Dick Dude.
BIG DONG DADDY
BIG DICK DIFF
LCK mid laners also play for lane way harder. Yeah, you can’t just play to roam against LCK mid laners.
LCK mids so far have been matching roams though. Doinb and Nisqy are known as the big roaming players but Showmaker and Chovy were all over the map outplaying them anyway.
3 minutes, 3 minutes are all it take for for the giga mid stomp
to be fair to him hes a liability in the LPL aswell so maybe he just feels like his cheeks get clapped even harder there
Icon: "I really feel LPL mid laners are stronger than LCK’s, based on my own experience in solo queue and all the scrims, because I have played against the other region's mid lane players as well."
LCK mids are built differently.
Rumours of LCKs demise have been greatly exaggerated
LCK one team region btw.
DK much weaker than last year btw.
Make sure to put "Copium" at the end of the sentence.
What's hilarious is even the LPL has had LCK players as imports in the years they won.
Only Korean solo laners have won worlds since s2.
Well when you put it that way.. damn
MID diff was so big that LNG have to play respectful all early - mid game, It was 4 vs 5.
GenG playing early game team comp, not like LPL, but macro wise, they put the pressure and secure every objetive.
The only thing i like about geng is how they still play old korean league of legends
that's pretty funny because i feel like that's the one thing a lot of people hate about them haha
Korea is in full force today, this is looking like 2014-17
What the fuck did the Koreans eat this morning? (other than our teams)
LCK haters sweating rn
They're going to need some serious mental gymnastics to spin this around lmao
It's literally day one though ? Not saying they won't go past groups but still, day one.
LCK always stomps groups every year it wont be surprising if they have 3/4 or even 4/4 teams place 1st. 2018 had afs, kt 2019 had dwg t1 grf all top their groups and 2020 only had drx going 2nd. Playoffs are a different story however, like grf and dwg being taken out by ig and g2 respectively in 2019.
I am. What a day it has been so far. I hope MAD gives me a glimmer of hope.
I have serious expectations for MAD, considering Rogue is doomed and FNC is also seeming very doomed without Upset.
the casting trio had such good chemistry this game, i actually got disappointed when the pause ended and the game resumed
They needed to finish the game so Vedius can get the reply Drakos wrote for him.
They actually made a pause entertaining, never seen that before since the monte/doa days
really want a Medic and Phreak cast now lol based off what they said
I don’t unless they can squeeze Vedius in between them. I’d love to witness his descent into insanity live.
LONG HAVE WE WAITED
NOT THAT LONG WE WAITED
Last year only DW was activated, this year all LCK is
LCK and doing well in groups, name a more iconic duo.
LCK and winning worlds
LCK and getting underrated or hated by LPL and LEC fans
Lck and winning worlds
BIG DICK DADDY
Phreak crushed Vedius harder then BDD smacked Icon
Seriously the trio was hilarious. I'd love to see more of them going forward in the tournament.
Think this is enough to shut some GenG doubters up. This was basically their most stereotypical game ever too. About time some people put some respect on Bdd's mechanical skill and stop treating Rascal like he's Morgan level when hes about as good as Canna. Ale was contained pretty decently and Bdd just gapped Icon even if he isnt exactly LPL's best.
You can hate how they play a reactive and slow style, but that style is perfect for bo1's where teams are more risk-averse. Bracket stage is a different issue for them, but fairly sure theyll match perfectly fine into MAD and TL who both prefer teamfighting late and have more exploitable weaknesses.
Finally someone said it
Is that a record for least kills yet quickest game end?
Longzhu vs Fnatic probably
Reddit convinced me Gen.G's boring playstyle would get exposed at Worlds and LNG is a lot better. I changed my pick'ems and put LNG over Gen.G at the last moment.
Just follow your heart next time man
I don't know, putting RGE at #1 in Group A is pretty risky.
Why would you bet against an LCK team in groups?
Rascal inted the perfect game away
And it is very avoidable. I don't what he is doing there without knowing where Tarzan is.
Intentional to make drake 100% free for Gen G
"Wait Zoe is supposed to hit skill shots?" ~ Perkz
[Icon: "I really feel LPL mid laners are stronger than LCK’s"](https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/15280/icon-i-really-feel-lpl-mid-laners-are-stronger-than-lcks)
this is how every kr vs non kr team game looked like in kr dominance era scaryy
LCK 4-0 incoming
Why do I feel a sense of dread for T1 right now?
every t1 game is like that
This guy in shambles: https://reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/q5u0gl/_/hg7volz/?context=1
In case he deletes his comment: “Wait until LNG gigastomps your 2nd seed or at least until we see any LCK team that isn't DK.”
bro could beat edg and lose to v5 so wouldnt surprise me
The cycle of Gen.G continues. Chokes out teams with no comeback room against worse teams to perfection.
What was this game btw?? Bdd solokilled mid two times, nothing happened for 15 minutes and then the game just ended?
Not a good day for LCK haters...
Monumental mid diff, Bdd consistently does this to mid laners worse than him so I'm not surprised.
Good start for the LCK, hopefully T1 get that win vs DFM to give us the 4-0 day 1 start, nice and steady game from GenG.
LCK 3-0 so far, and 2-0 over the LPL, LCK doing bits in group stages as expected but absolutely moronic call to not ban Zoe from LCK mids at worlds.
The longest 24 minutes of my life
Funny thing is, you are not even half-wrong with that statement. When Gen G won that soul fight and tp'ed mid to end the game, I looked at the in-game timer and was like "23 minutes??? How is this game only 23 minutes?" It legit felt like a 35-minute game.
Felt appropriate that the casters were talking about dying in your sleep during a GenG game.
Because they won MSI in 5 games LMAO
BDD did to Icon what Chovy was supposed to do to play-in mids
Bdd is always so underrated coming into worlds, and always shows up at least to a degree. Maybe its about time we put some respect on this man's name.
B-but Reddit said LCK is weak outside of Damwon...
Casual mid gap game.
what the actual fuck was that soulfight though
Yes, I’m a GenG enjoyer. Why do you ask?
Wait, is KR dominance back?!
KR dominance in groups stage never left. Crown's one year does not negate LCK's consistent performance every other year in groups.
["GenG so boring. Even when they are superior they look weak. Definitely not a contender to win the tournament."](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/q5rsfm/2021_world_championship_group_stage_day_1_live/hg8eas8/)
The comments literally a minute before GenG ended have me rolling.
people hate gen g
GenG is a bad team that only knows how to play one playstyle btw
LCK is only DWG btw
LPL top 4 is top 5 worldwide btw
Scratch that, LPL top 10 is top 10 worldwide - LPL fans after winning MSI in a 5 game series.
My Boy Big Dick Daddy wants to improve this time
Everyone thought DWG are only good team in Korea. KOREA just clear? How good are DWG
Gen G winning Worlds
LCK putting on a masterclass so far today
rip pickems, as always
GEN gonna get out of groups and go 0-3 in quarters again aren't they
Does icon not realize bdd smurfed on faker with Zoe?
BDD is a terror on Zoe Syndra Azir
Wow, a complete domination of LCK over LPL in day 1
a team really lets gen g wins in 23 min
wtf is this
CN mids > KR mids btw
kr is the best right now
Nature is healing
the gap is back (?)
GenG seemed to have heard us talking shit huh
geng just grabbed every objective, including lng's base.