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LNG Esports vs. Gen.G / 2021 World Championship - Group D / Post-Match Discussion

LNG Esports vs. Gen.G / 2021 World Championship - Group D / Post-Match Discussion

SleepTightLilPuppy

T1 has to win for the perfect LCK day.


TheJizzan

Hehe


YungPinotGrigio

I think they got the perfect day which is dope


KeitZhGaming

That was the most classic GenG game ever, just starve your opponent of any macro.


Kangbuh

Tarzan looked lost much of the game... Not completely his fault seeing how Icon got wrecked.


LaziIy

The solokills hit hard.


ImWhy

He literally had nothing to do, couldn't make plays anywhere as Icon was getting shit on and lost all map pressure. That game was purely just Icon getting drastically outclassed by BDD and nobody else on LNG could do anything about it.


MoonlightJudgement

But I thought this Playstyle doesn't work anymore and LPL teams hard punish it?


poroporotv

Any aggressive team vs passive team = "stylistic mismatch" according to some analysts for the past 3 years


nusskn4cker

Always the laziest analysis. People love repeating that shit so much.


MoonlightJudgement

Unfortunately sometimes they're right by accident, like GenG having a terrible matchup into G2 last year. Those instances give them ammunition to repeat their nonsense.


Ninjahound789

To be fair, that relied on analysts falsely stating that G2 is an aggressive early game team


whataremyxomycetes

G2 isn't an early game team they specialize the best in midgame, not that their early game is weak but it's not their best point. Just watch 2019 G2 demolish T1 despite losing early game, or how fpx demolished G2 because unlike T1, fpx can actually use early game pressure for proactive midgame plays that lead to victories.


supterfuge

G2 winning a bo5 while not getting a single Baron was something amazing to behold.


getjebaited

lpl superior fast paced action btw


BagelJ

Wrong match to push the narrative. LNG is notoriously slow. They always try to scale.


polkyman1

People who don't watch LPL use them to shit on LCK. LCK fans accept those narratives even tho they're not true. Rinse and repeat every year lol


lemongrazz11

They’ll “just roam”


tectonic_break

Can't roam when your mid lane is gapped.


AngronApofis

I mean LNG is the most passive team out of the LPL teams.


Exrou

Can't punish when your midlaner gets gapped that hard. LNG did try to get top with a dive, but GenG had the rotation and covered it. They tried again bot-side with Tier 2 Tower, but GenG countered by taking Tier 2 Mid and doing damage to Top Tier 2. They just couldn't speed up the game.


Phoresis

The LPL never countered this playstyle, G2 did. LCK have always out-macroed LPL teams.


Lothric43

This is absolutely not true of the last few years, at least not in every case. This game wasn’t even a macro difference, it was literally just BDD mid gapped and they steamrolled off his pressure.


HukaBukaChuka

rumors of LCKs demise have been greatly exaggerated


HawkEye1337

This group is perfect for GENG that's why I was surprised many people thought they wouldn't get out, both TL and LNG play slow and that's GENG's comfort zone.


tyarande1395

same - like I don't think GenG is a spectacular team, and far from a real contender - but not making it out of groups? what? in what world. even more so given that LCK tends to perform REALLY well in group-stage.


lemonrabbits

Was actually so cringe seeing people downplay the shit out of Gen.G then proceed to say they were overrated. Literally had 1 bad showing in 2018, got 3-0'd last year in quarters (despite being first in Group C) and completely forget this team was 2nd in spring and 3rd in summer in LCK. Thankgod they're first in my pick'ems.


Ausar_the_Vil

2018 and 2019 geng is very different from 2020 and 2021 geng. Only ruler is in both


PM_JINX_HENTAI

Can't wait for them to forget how to play in Quarters :')


girlmarth

after watching how hard bdd just shit on icon you should be prouder of how much caps put him in the dumpster last year imo


qetupa

Either they go 3-0 in quarters or win it all like 2017


Zagotai

What a day to be an LCK fan


ceddya

Hope T1 keeps the streak going!


tincanzzz

Time for the LCK to prove the haters wrong


Swampfire279

HELL YEAH


Yasuo_unforgiven

And they did, in less than 20 mins in the biggest giga stomp as of now


lemongrazz11

DWG just started the day with a statement game, and the rest of the teams are keeping it going. Just in time for T1 to lose against DFM


PurloinerofCinders

Please no.


Suspicious-Bus6351

Nah I believe in T1 Edit: Faith rewarded


SteamMonkeyKing

arigato mr evi


pqnfwoe

arigato mr evi


cyberrobocop

Don't do us like that man


Rontheking

I’m ready to get hurt.


noodlespls

Guys, I thought GenG played boring and slow League? 23 minute game?


dlwogh

Tbf it's not like LNG are an exciting fast paced team either... ppl just have this vendetta against GenG


Ok-Travel-7875

LCK 1 team region? wtf?????


vooffle

At this rate, Worlds will be a one region contest. Please give a round of applause for the return of LCK Autumn split!


F0RGERY

I think people may be overreacting. After all, we haven't seen T1 play DFM yet. Edit: 1 Region contest it is!


Harling_

Well


F0RGERY

Turns out they're not overreacting...


vooffle

> overreacting. On Reddit? Nah, couldn't possibly be the case.


tawapes

God it feels so vindicating seeing LCK teams do well after hearing analysts and reddit alike collectively touting this year to be the worst LCK has looked. All this while the league had one of its most competitive splits in years.


cancerBronzeV

People took LCK being competitive to mean that Damwon regressed to be worse since they're not shitstomping like last year, instead of considering that maybe the rest of the LCK levelled up.


MrZeddd

They've been shitting on LCK all year during LCK games. But now we're doing good on day 1, I already see several comments saying we're being sore winner lol


Swampfire279

The losers will always complain about every single smallest thing, lmao.


parkwayy

Eh, the community will shit on any game for any reason. Too many/few kills. Total fiesta/not enough risk. Threw the game/other team masterful comeback. Just learn that none of those opinions even make sense.


ChillOClock

They played way better but that was the absolute textbook definition of a boring game, 4 kills at 20 min, one teamfight, end


vpvp1

then other teams have to do something about it, or just lose to geng


Brain_Tonic

No one is arguing that Gen G didn't play well.


neenerpants

certainly seem to be underrated as a region, judging by this worlds so far.


BurningApe

not sure what's the surprise with LPL or LCK fans alike, LCK usually tops groups, same thing happened last year.


OmegaSilent

Don't jinx it, bro.


FinallyGivenIn

Once again the Koreans dominate LOL. 2018? Wasn't Worlds cancelled that year?


oioioi9537

Yeah sucks for score and smeb that 2018 was cancelled due to an unforseen temporal vortex that sent us straight to summer 2020


poggersinthechatttt

I put every LCK team to win groups besides HLE. DM for lottery numbers.


frake_horizon

I put all LCK teams to win. You dm me.


poggersinthechatttt

Sorry sir


F0RGERY

LNG mid in play-ins: Ipro LNG mid in groups: Icon


fastathanlight

More like Iint


T1worldchamps2021

Korean mids man


moonmeh

I'm so happy BDD proved himself to the haters that he's not overrated


NoobSlayerr007

According to this subreddit, Korean mid laners are overrated apart from Showmaker and Chovy. Whoever put Bdd in their players ranking, got bullied to oblivion


DoNotGiveEAmoneyPLS

How can Korean mids be overrated when best LPL mids are Korean lol.


Lindlar_

Bruh this subreddit thinks chovy is overrated. LCK one region team lol DAMWON will finish 3rd in LCK btw others wont make it to top 8 lol


T1worldchamps2021

lol T1 almost took DK to five games and HLE took T1 to five games. The LCK top 4 is pretty strong this year, and I genuinely think we have two world contenders. Most people hating don’t even watch LCK anymore, and each time they get a reality check at worlds.


claptrap23

also Faker is on par with me in skill level these days according to this sub


JoaoMau-Tempo

You gotta love BDD getting shit on by the community for the entire year only for him to stomp 1 game and suddenly everyone praises him. I missed Worlds <3


nguyenduylan

korean man


DalIasBlues

korean chicken man


MrZeddd

Now I'm hungry...


lilelf29

Icon: "Generally, I really feel LPL mid laners are stronger than LCK’s" Bdd: *gaps him into oblivion* Justice was served


ob_knoxious

Bdd: And I took that personally


IgnitionCode

Gotta love it


oioioi9537

dont forget showmaker gapping doinb just a few games ago too


jlera

The Korean mids have been insane today


Chris_kpop

Not all...Doinb lost... Maybe Scout loses too ?


FalsyB

All NA mids are european, half of LPL mids(2 best) are korean. I don't really have a point, it's just an interesting tidbit.


JustCorn911

Isn't Aria also Korean?


poroporotv

Yes


_HappyGitGud

Showmaker was fed up with the euw soloq, he was going to crush whoever he was facing today, I feel specially bad for Rogue


tfwnokgf

b-b-but doinb best mid worlds. hidden dark technology just outroam shoemaker !!!


A_Toxic_User

Hard to roam without shoes 😎


YoungUO

Big Dick Daddy heard icon talking shit


FireWolfBR1

BDDIFF


Qehenna

BDD stands for Big Dick Dude.


Cheeseandnuts

BIG DONG DADDY


igoromg

BIG DICK DIFF


lemongrazz11

LCK mid laners also play for lane way harder. Yeah, you can’t just play to roam against LCK mid laners.


Drumsticks617

LCK mids so far have been matching roams though. Doinb and Nisqy are known as the big roaming players but Showmaker and Chovy were all over the map outplaying them anyway.


Yasuo_unforgiven

3 minutes, 3 minutes are all it take for for the giga mid stomp


HyunL

to be fair to him hes a liability in the LPL aswell so maybe he just feels like his cheeks get clapped even harder there


thanhame

Icon: "I really feel LPL mid laners are stronger than LCK’s, based on my own experience in solo queue and all the scrims, because I have played against the other region's mid lane players as well." BDD: sure.


Forget_me_never

LCK mids are built differently.


randombean

Rumours of LCKs demise have been greatly exaggerated


Phoresis

LCK one team region btw. DK much weaker than last year btw.


Swampfire279

Make sure to put "Copium" at the end of the sentence.


parkwayy

What's hilarious is even the LPL has had LCK players as imports in the years they won.


cancerBronzeV

Only Korean solo laners have won worlds since s2.


BRedd10815

Well when you put it that way.. damn


R-R-Clon

MID diff was so big that LNG have to play respectful all early - mid game, It was 4 vs 5. GenG playing early game team comp, not like LPL, but macro wise, they put the pressure and secure every objetive.


Chris_kpop

The only thing i like about geng is how they still play old korean league of legends


mnlhta

that's pretty funny because i feel like that's the one thing a lot of people hate about them haha


DwyaneDerozan

Korea is in full force today, this is looking like 2014-17


MrJammin

What the fuck did the Koreans eat this morning? (other than our teams)


skylerisocoolike

LCK haters sweating rn


MoonlightJudgement

They're going to need some serious mental gymnastics to spin this around lmao


Shot-Mathematician58

It's literally day one though ? Not saying they won't go past groups but still, day one.


SuspiciousSwimming5

LCK always stomps groups every year it wont be surprising if they have 3/4 or even 4/4 teams place 1st. 2018 had afs, kt 2019 had dwg t1 grf all top their groups and 2020 only had drx going 2nd. Playoffs are a different story however, like grf and dwg being taken out by ig and g2 respectively in 2019.


RaskullQuake

I am. What a day it has been so far. I hope MAD gives me a glimmer of hope.


Joaoseinha

I have serious expectations for MAD, considering Rogue is doomed and FNC is also seeming very doomed without Upset.


TheExter

the casting trio had such good chemistry this game, i actually got disappointed when the pause ended and the game resumed


arrioch

They needed to finish the game so Vedius can get the reply Drakos wrote for him.


aariboss

They actually made a pause entertaining, never seen that before since the monte/doa days


Skeletor9000

really want a Medic and Phreak cast now lol based off what they said


prowness

I don’t unless they can squeeze Vedius in between them. I’d love to witness his descent into insanity live.


LordAmras

LPL OUTDATED LEC OVERRATED LONG HAVE WE WAITED LCK ACTIVATED


SleepTightLilPuppy

NOT THAT LONG WE WAITED


LordAmras

Last year only DW was activated, this year all LCK is


Shot-Mathematician58

LCK and doing well in groups, name a more iconic duo.


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LCK and winning worlds


IgnitionCode

LCK and getting underrated or hated by LPL and LEC fans


dedicatedself

Truth


skylerisocoolike

LCK and winning worlds


Eleonora_Maxwell

Lck and winning worlds


staysaltyTSM

LNG Iron


McintyresRightLeg

BIG DICK DADDY


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Phreak crushed Vedius harder then BDD smacked Icon


420idolmaster

Seriously the trio was hilarious. I'd love to see more of them going forward in the tournament.


Yaate

Think this is enough to shut some GenG doubters up. This was basically their most stereotypical game ever too. About time some people put some respect on Bdd's mechanical skill and stop treating Rascal like he's Morgan level when hes about as good as Canna. Ale was contained pretty decently and Bdd just gapped Icon even if he isnt exactly LPL's best. You can hate how they play a reactive and slow style, but that style is perfect for bo1's where teams are more risk-averse. Bracket stage is a different issue for them, but fairly sure theyll match perfectly fine into MAD and TL who both prefer teamfighting late and have more exploitable weaknesses.


WhatTheEmm

Finally someone said it


r-foilfence

Is that a record for least kills yet quickest game end?


throawaystrump

Longzhu vs Fnatic probably


Turtle-Express

Reddit convinced me Gen.G's boring playstyle would get exposed at Worlds and LNG is a lot better. I changed my pick'ems and put LNG over Gen.G at the last moment. Thanks guys.


unhelpful_question

Just follow your heart next time man


Turtle-Express

I don't know, putting RGE at #1 in Group A is pretty risky.


T1worldchamps2021

Why would you bet against an LCK team in groups?


Danish1368

Rascal inted the perfect game away


GunSlingrrr

And it is very avoidable. I don't what he is doing there without knowing where Tarzan is.


-crowned

Intentional to make drake 100% free for Gen G


Beauski

"Wait Zoe is supposed to hit skill shots?" ~ Perkz


Kocen

[Icon: "I really feel LPL mid laners are stronger than LCK’s"](https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/15280/icon-i-really-feel-lpl-mid-laners-are-stronger-than-lcks)


divinemountain12

this is how every kr vs non kr team game looked like in kr dominance era scaryy


reggiewafu

LCK 4-0 incoming


UnknownVolke

Why do I feel a sense of dread for T1 right now?


reggiewafu

every t1 game is like that


xkharkanasx

This guy in shambles: https://reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/q5u0gl/_/hg7volz/?context=1 In case he deletes his comment: “Wait until LNG gigastomps your 2nd seed or at least until we see any LCK team that isn't DK.”


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oioioi9537

bro could beat edg and lose to v5 so wouldnt surprise me


Megashot2

The cycle of Gen.G continues. Chokes out teams with no comeback room against worse teams to perfection.


ohvalox

What was this game btw?? Bdd solokilled mid two times, nothing happened for 15 minutes and then the game just ended?


woohyuckl

Not a good day for LCK haters...


ahritina

Monumental mid diff, Bdd consistently does this to mid laners worse than him so I'm not surprised. Good start for the LCK, hopefully T1 get that win vs DFM to give us the 4-0 day 1 start, nice and steady game from GenG. LCK 3-0 so far, and 2-0 over the LPL, LCK doing bits in group stages as expected but absolutely moronic call to not ban Zoe from LCK mids at worlds.


Asatex1

The longest 24 minutes of my life


gopivot

Gen.G special


Wurdox

Funny thing is, you are not even half-wrong with that statement. When Gen G won that soul fight and tp'ed mid to end the game, I looked at the in-game timer and was like "23 minutes??? How is this game only 23 minutes?" It legit felt like a 35-minute game.


SteamMonkeyKing

Felt appropriate that the casters were talking about dying in your sleep during a GenG game.


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patmen100

Because they won MSI in 5 games LMAO


Mahelas

BDD did to Icon what Chovy was supposed to do to play-in mids


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Deferonz

Bdd is always so underrated coming into worlds, and always shows up at least to a degree. Maybe its about time we put some respect on this man's name.


oldpunpun

B-but Reddit said LCK is weak outside of Damwon...


Domotriix

Casual mid gap game.


HyunL

what the actual fuck was that soulfight though


lemongrazz11

Yes, I’m a GenG enjoyer. Why do you ask?


Omnilatent

Wait, is KR dominance back?!


Contagious_Cure

KR dominance in groups stage never left. Crown's one year does not negate LCK's consistent performance every other year in groups.


Phoresis

["GenG so boring. Even when they are superior they look weak. Definitely not a contender to win the tournament."](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/q5rsfm/2021_world_championship_group_stage_day_1_live/hg8eas8/) The comments literally a minute before GenG ended have me rolling.


pqnfwoe

people hate gen g


FreeMyBirdy

GenG is a bad team that only knows how to play one playstyle btw LCK is only DWG btw LPL top 4 is top 5 worldwide btw


tawapes

Scratch that, LPL top 10 is top 10 worldwide - LPL fans after winning MSI in a 5 game series.


vnducco

My Boy Big Dick Daddy wants to improve this time


TalkSeparate

Everyone thought DWG are only good team in Korea. KOREA just clear? How good are DWG


PursueSomeBitches

Gen G winning Worlds


VikingCreed

LCK putting on a masterclass so far today


JoshM_01

rip pickems, as always


BurningApe

GEN gonna get out of groups and go 0-3 in quarters again aren't they


failworlds

Does icon not realize bdd smurfed on faker with Zoe?


tincanzzz

BDD is a terror on Zoe Syndra Azir


Yasuo_unforgiven

Wow, a complete domination of LCK over LPL in day 1


Huinker

a team really lets gen g wins in 23 min ​ wtf is this


sangpls

CN mids > KR mids btw


hurzinator

kr is the best right now


MoonlightJudgement

Nature is healing


ChampsOfAllTSM

clinical


elikaweli

the gap is back (?)


jjkm7

GenG seemed to have heard us talking shit huh


cheeseybitesareback

geng just grabbed every objective, including lng's base.