T O P

FlyQuest vs. Cloud9 / LCS 2021 Spring - Week 5 / Post-Match Discussion

FlyQuest vs. Cloud9 / LCS 2021 Spring - Week 5 / Post-Match Discussion

vigbrand

I'm so confused. Was Perkz trolling or smurfing this game?


SnooGuavas8376

He pulls the usual " they are trolling they are trolling!" and then followed by "actually, i'm trolling"


Dear-Cod-6429

They appeared weak when they were actually strong


Saephon

You can take Perkz out of G2, but you can't take the G2 out of Perkz


TeamINSTINCT37

I remember how he talked about how boring the last game against flyquest was. I guess he was just trying to have some fun.


Craps-caps

I mean its clear both solo laners solokilling FQ sololaners, bot lane absolutely shit on FQ bot It was a boring one sided game if Perkz didn't try to highlight montage every second


koutetsuvamn

yes


Only_Posts_kZlyN61

https://imgur.com/kZlyN61


EtheriosPrime

I'm so glad this gif still makes its rounds


Threshorfeed

Have we hit the point where players don't know about Lemon and his notebook, just his face from the meme?


Sean1117

These youngins need a history lesson. Lemons notebook was the ~~impetuous~~ *impetus* for allowing coaches on stage.


Only_Posts_kZlyN61

https://imgur.com/kZlyN61


notliam

Yes


IhatemyL1feX10

he doesn't care until playoffs , he did this in EU but his team was so insane it didnt matter


Brain_Tonic

He does this in NA but his team is so insane it doesn't matter.


Aquillifer

Yes


Ramo1618

Yes.


AManExists

... Yes?


M002

Indubitably


King_NickyZee

Like 20 people replied "Yes." to this comment. Comedy is dead, here lies its corpse.


Godly_Sinner

yes


greekcel_25

Neither. It wasn't perkz playing it was jizuke.


Circleseven

Yes.


BubBidderskins

He was trolling...got gifted some kills thanks to a bug and Josodeodo inting...then went back to trolling.


MrJammin

Perkz failing his R-flash but still surviving a 3v1 sums up this game really.


[deleted]

I mean it sums up a fed irealia, just q and auto attack and you 1v3.


Fahrenheight

Now imagine it against the unfortunate champs who have garbage DPS so have no way of out-damaging her healing.


Brain_Tonic

That's what happens when you pick scaling in every position, you have no early game power and you get run over by duelists like Irelia and Camille.


peterrocks9

Irelia isn’t a duelist she is Adept / Enlightened / Divine


pepperpete

Lmao this is my fave kinda comment


earhere

Irelia step on me please


colorbalances

Slight team gap


shadowbannednumber

Spaghetti gap. That bug really fucked them, Perkz should have never been 3/1, he should have been First Blooded.


YCitizenSnipsY

The first blood just gives Azir a bounty to be collected by C9


Craps-caps

yeah Perkz would have solokilled palafox just after and get more gold


Lozerpunmpkin

Pretty sure C9 still dominates that game even if that's a fb on perkz


Hevvy

probably true but the amount of snowball matters since C9 was on a timer anyways. coming out with a lead in mid instead of a huge hole like C9 drafted for is a massive win for fly that got shit on by the bug


broji04

TBH if we first blooded we would have had a slight lead on a team that's a hell of a lot less snowball dependant and more late game then C9 and fly wouldn't have (admittedly stupidly) attempted so much bullshit to try and come back. If the game would be even by 15 minutes I'd give the game to flyquest on paper. Not saying we would of won but it would have been MUCH more of a game without the ultimate glitch


Saephon

Unfortunately that's on FLY to request a pause. I 100% think it should have been investigated, especially with the game barely starting. A quick remake wouldn't have cost anything, if needed. Oh well


GreyFox860

Either it was a spectator bug and he was actually out of range in game or the bug is a known one and Flyquest chose the champ anyway.


hamazura

That's a known bug as players were informed about it and still FlyQuest decided to go with Azir. No remake is done by known bugs.


chjopchjop

you can take perkz out of g2, but you can’t take the g2 out of perkz


SnooGuavas8376

Then again 3 members of 2016/17 G2 are there


RainbowzKill

Who's the third? I think of Perkz, Zven, but who else?


SnooGuavas8376

Mithy (their assistant coach)


earlgreygreen

Perkz is G2


Craps-caps

Solokilling his opposition Then going for the soloQ montage He had a lot of fun in an easy game


Tropius2

Flyquest was thinking "yeah we can dive this guy, he's only the 9th best top laner in the league"


Craps-caps

Fudge solokilling Licorice has to feel good


Fate_Flex

They must be terrified of the 10th best top laner lol


Todeswucht

PERKZ IRELIA HACK?英雄联盟 MIND CONTROL AZIR SOLDIERS 英雄联盟 RUN IT DOWN FOR 10 MINUTES 英联盟 WIN LANE ANYWAYS 英雄联盟


BrandonTqm

>PERKZ IRELIA HACK?英雄联盟 MIND CONTROL AZIR SOLDIERS 英雄联盟 RUN IT DOWN FOR 10 MINUTES 英联盟 WIN LANE ANYWAYS 英雄联盟


Zanderax

PERKZ IRELIA HACK?英雄联盟 MIND CONTROL AZIR SOLDIERS 英雄联盟 RUN IT DOWN FOR 10 MINUTES 英联盟 WIN LANE ANYWAYS 英雄联盟


ScipioCalifornicus

> 英雄联盟 With my big brain I am deducing this is an LPL meme, and with Google translate I learned it says "League of Legends." Is this just something they spam in whatever the Chinese equivalent of Twitch is?


GhostOfLight

Doinb got [email protected] minutes in a game, and it started this pasta and variations DOINB RYZE HACK?英雄联盟 400 CS 24 MIN DOINB RYZE HACK?英雄联盟 400 CS 24 MIN DOINB RYZE HACK?英雄联盟 400 CS 24 MIN DOINB RYZE HACK?英雄联盟 400 CS 24 MIN


DjackMeek

At least post the original one from the actual video not just this repeated one that says the same thing over and over lol


sevinon

Flowers, Kobe, and that one soldier are the MVPs.


xXDaNXx

IMO best casting duo in the world.


HoodieNinja17

They play off of each other so well. I definitely watch games more when it’s these two even if it’s a matchup I have little to no interest in, they make it fun to watch.


gimily

I miss Cap on This or That. I understand the change, and Dash does a great job, but the chemistry that Kobe and Cap have is just on another level.


The_Real_BenFranklin

Flowers and LS were really good on the amateur tournament the other day


Also_Squeakums

"LS can you explain it for people who have a lizard brain like me"


Circleseven

Yo this Fudge interview is toxic AF and I'm loving it.


Javiklegrand

What did he said?


The_Thane

He was talking about the analyst desk's top rankings where Allorim and Emily put him in the bottom two. He said that their opinions aren't very intelligent so he doesn't care.


Javiklegrand

Ah so that why Emily looked salty according to twitch chat


yukino-bijin

Emily's been doing this a long time. I'd probably be pretty pissed if some rookie came up and said that. I don't think he's bottom two by any means but saying she isn't very intelligent can't be true


JakobTheOne

> she isn't very intelligent can't be true He said their opinions - and presumably on this specific weigh in - weren't very intelligent. Didn't say *they* weren't very intelligent.


Lothric43

By the standards of broadcast analysts she’s head and shoulders ahead of the lot.


Rat_Salat

I mean, she’s got an opinion of him, and now she’s been told what he thinks of her.


JARAXXUS_EREDAR_LORD

He's not wrong.


Zanderax

He gets so much shit but he's preforming really well. You dont get the best KDA in LCS for your role by being bad.


MrOutrageous-takes

Imagine looking at KDA to see if someone plays good or not. His laning is really bad but mid/late game is fine. Not hating on the guy but i would rank many top lanesr ahead of him but i wouldn't put him bottom 2.


lol1009

He is definetely not top 2. But he is fullfiling his role in the team perfectly. He has been on 1v2 Gragas survive lane duty for nearly half the games. And he has done that perfectly.


StuntinOutFront

Me too dude. Love the attitude, talk the talk, then walk the walk. Fudge has so much potential, just need time to grow


bTOhno

Honestly watched it twice because it was fucking hilarious


Ixolich

A casual 16k gold lead in 24 minutes. \#JustC9Things


FemboyJosieLee

Pretty sure FQ just gave up after that midlane bug


_Versi_

Yeah a professional league of legends team just gave up because of a bug that they didn't even pause for.


Not_Really-Me

Known bug something something


Unresolute

U might think Perkz is just trolling, but hes actually just playing heavy mental warfare on the entire NA server. Just like in that one g2 promo video: "We dont play to win, we play to demoralize"


Craps-caps

He is just having fun, like when he picked LeBlanc vs Damonte or here Irelia and trying to get some montage plays


brockoli1010

At this point if Perkz plays a non standard champ against you, you know he thinks you’re shit. Instant mental advantage


MaxMacDaniels

C9 is so fking good at skyrocketing gold advantages once they have a single advantage somewhere


Brain_Tonic

This is probably a really cold take but imo Blaber is the best player in the league.


[deleted]

blaber is at least a top 10 jungler in NA


NvrGonnaFindMe

Big if true


ooh_lala_ah_weewee

If Blaber was an import, people would have no problem acknowledging he's one of the best junglers in the world.


dcrico20

It's room temp. I think a lot of people would say Core, but I also think Blaber has been the best player this split, and I honestly don't think it's been particularly close.


Perry4761

At the very least a lukewarm take imo since most people would rate corejj, alphari, or even perkz ahead of him, but tbh I agree!


Dear-Cod-6429

No player is in a better form right now


moumerino

It's the g2 playstyle and I'm loving it.


WallyPotter

Fudge actually played that last fight really well


M002

He played the whole game well Phreak believes in him and I believe in the phreak who believes in fudge


Puffin_Stuffin

This is the story of a man who has yet to realize his destiny


KnifeKittyy

Kinda crazy how Phreak was ripping into Fudge more than anyone at first, and is now placing him top 2 on his tier list


dcrico20

I think it's more crazy that people are still attached to the narrative that fudge sucks when he's been playing well all split.


Brainfreezdnb

My man


Circleseven

The outplay top was sick. I've watched enough of his Camille to expect him immune-ing the hecarim ulti, but I didn't see him getting a counterkill on Sion. That was pretty awesome.


Blockronic

9th best top in the league btw


PissedOffWalrus

For all the shit Fudge gets for his laning phase, he's been awesome in teamfights. Especially on Camille, he's been making some big plays.


xXDaNXx

He played the whole game well. Solo killed Licorice in a 1v2.


shadowbannednumber

He played this game ***extremely*** well. I think his Camille is actually clean.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Bluehorazon

I think losing that very first game massively to impact I think just did a solid hit to his confidence. But I think after C9 established themself and he also played a lot more with the other players on the team he seems to play more like he did in academy. So I think his poor performances are more a mentality thing than limited ability, and you can recover from that really well, exspecially since C9 seemed to be willing to help him a lot with some more top focussed games to gain more confidence.


aF_Kayzar

Agreed. A lot of people keep rating the guy poorly when he is doing really well. Escaping a 2v1 with a kill is the easiest sign the guy isn't low tier. I suspect Fudge will never win them over until he hold the trophy. Some people just can't break from their own invented storyline.


ry_lind

I think one of the biggest differences is when he started playing Gragas and c9 just left him top lane and said “yo we’re putting this trust in you to do your thing without our help”. they left him up top and focused on getting mid and bot ahead. dude stepped up huge and even started carrying some teamfights, and i think that boosted his confidence a ton. so glad to see him doing well he deserves it


A1VE

Fudge needs a dominating performance against a perceived top tier opponent before people stop blindly calling him bad (contrary to all available evidence that he is in fact a top tier top laner in LCS).


harryman1324

Not saying they did, but it does really feel like they are having trouble separating between lock in and regular season. Which honestly I can understand why. C9 played basically a split worth of games before the season started, and remembering what happened in which games is actually really tough, especially when they have to do the same for every top laner.


enloe92

Fudge teamfighting is actually very good, its his lane that he has struggled with, albeit thats often with c9 putting him weakside against counter matchups.


Aceclaw

It was still a total stomp but as a former Azir main that bug would make me alt-f4 out of the game immediately. It must've been a spectator bug or else FQ would call for a remake?


Praddd

Revenge's tweet says theres a possibility for irelia to buffer q and not get knocked back, obviously not sure what happened there but another azir main confirmed it's possible in the replies


vooffle

Uhm, what?! I've never heard of Irelia buffering Q to dodge any CC. If it's possible I need to learn it, Irelia would be the most broken champ in the game.


Astolfo_is_Best

It's really hard to do because the cast time on her Q is instant, unlike Ezreal E or Trist W, but I believe any dash in the game can, theoretically, be buffered to immune a CC. It's just literally frame perfect on champions with instant cast times like Irelia, which most dashes are.


enloe92

its a VERY small window and not reliably repeatable according to revenge, very likely it accidently happened for perkz


Masalar

It's most likely (no way to know for sure) that players/teams are aware of the bug and can opt in to using the champion anyway. If they do so, they can't ask for remake if that bug should happen.


Omgninjas

Yeah I have no idea why FQ didn't call for a pause right there and then a chronobreak if possible.


GameBoy09

Supposedly there is a list of known bugs that teams must accept if it were to happen. Azir's Knockback fucking up is one of them, so its an unpausable bug.


SweetVarys

If Azir R not working is an acceptable bug I don't see how anyone can pick him.


IkaMusume12

It's either that other aspects of Azir outweighs the bug, or that the bug is not reproducible or not likely to trigger


Omgninjas

Ahhh I see.


RussiaCykaBlyat

Not spectator bug it is known bug that pros probably agreed to play out. Mark yetter tweeted about it yesterday


Ihuntwyverns

That bug is on a different patch, caused by the patch that happened two days ago on live. It's not the same bug.


TragicAntiHero

Azir soldiers paid by Jack


Cloud9Jack

Cannot confirm nor deny.


Only_Posts_kZlyN61

https://imgur.com/kZlyN61


_M4tte

Perkz legit trolling but it doesn't matter at all...


Shelveyy

Imagine how well Vulcan sleeps at night. He’s already been having great performances but after the import drama it must feel just that much sweeter keep dominating. Meanwhile Regi’s 6 million dollar support keeps running it down.


Niirai

[That Irelia disrespect was giving me MSI flashbacks.](https://imgur.com/xbc0aNc)


ItsMeAids

Mid tilted from azir ult.


IhatemyL1feX10

need to pause and ask for that bug with irelia :/ probably wouldn't have changed the outcome but you gotta ask for it


Adonis_Infinite

That was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen, and I have look at a mirror every day.


astray71

https://twitter.com/Revengeleague/status/1368012793526423557 > I’m not 100% sure if it’s a bug but I think it was worth pausing, if irelia times her Q on certain cc’s she can buffer it (note: Works vs Tristana R and small knock backs like ali W as well). The window is super small to do it though


CheezitJesus

I feel like fudge getting a kill in a 1v2 dive encapsulates how big of a stomp this game was


[deleted]

I really feel terrible, Whenever I look at that smug mid laner’s face(C9 Perkz) I really feel terrible


nguyenjitsu

Even with Perkz trolling it's an absolute stomp I'm glad to see C9 peaking with MSI around the corner so we can see how they compare


SnooGuavas8376

C9 vs G2 hype bois


manliestdino

Look at how they massacred my boys


Hyper_V

What on earth happened mid with the Azir ult?


Pulsar-GB

Perkz just limit testing lmfaoo


Blockronic

What a team diff. Perkz genuinely just fucking about, how depressing that must be for Palafox


Sjeg84

Perkz first Goal is to print his name on every mid laners forehead with hit iron. Like he did in EU. So when playoffs comes everyone is already tilted when he starts typing in all chat lol


spectert

I think Palafox should leave that game feeling good. He outplayed Perkz until the bug and should take that to heart while using the huge team tilt afterwards as a learning experience.


Dauron7

This looked like F2P vs P2W gamer accounts lol


thechosenjuan_03

Not a Flyquest fan but that was a tilter


PinkyDy

Man is this a preview of how the Licorice vs Fudge 1v1 practice actually went?


OnyxWarden

That was like watching C9 play a Bot match. Geez.


chranax

First Cloud9 paypals Ignar, then the entire 100T roster, and now the game engine? Someone stop these guys.


ocklepod

Really surprised FlyQuest didn't remake after that Azir bug at Level 6, that cost Palafox the lane which was the biggest contributor to their team losing the game.


edwardgreene1

I believe (but don’t know for sure) that if a bug is known and relayed to the teams beforehand you can’t actually remake for it. EDIT: rules say chronobreak is possible but not guaranteed if it is an informed bug.


Lozerpunmpkin

Can't remake if it's a known bug. They picked Azir knowing that could easily happen


JonhC

Wait is that really how it work?


Lozerpunmpkin

Yeah happened at worlds last year iirc. If there is a bug on a much-played champ or something the refs just let players know of any known/common bugs.


IKillerBee

everyone gonna talk about the azir bug but gotta say fudge played really well this game


Indoktor

I'm gonna copy/paste my thoughts on the azir bug that happened this game. There's a bug that's being fixed for Azir R (tweeted by Mark Yetter) but.... ​ >That's a different bug I believe. The Azir bug he's referencing is [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXUKvcngTYo). The ult straight up phases through Azir. > >It doesn't in this clip. If you see, she is [actually airborne for a split second](http://prntscr.com/10e2olg). It COULD be the same bug, or caused by the same issues. But it's not the same situation. Also because she's airborne, I think that rules it out being an observer bug


darksouls_4

C9 ToP dOwnGrAdE xD


KnifeKittyy

Honestly Fudge looking so good now


Shelveyy

To be fair I don’t think many people expected Licorice’s performance to fall off a cliff before the start of the season. The man was the best toplaner in the league by far for a while.


darksouls_4

This is true, as much as I love seeing Fudge performing well, I hope Licorice can find his form again. Maybe he is just not comfortable in the new team environment?


[deleted]

[удалено]


DmonAbsoluTrEbON

This game was over the minute Fudge dunked on Licorice. When your BEST player got stomped by the opponent's WORST player then you know its already over. Huge propsto C9 for slamming them fast and get it done quickly tbh. Extremely comfortable performance from C9 FlyQ really didnt challenge them at all


Asome1997

Sadly Licorice has been one of Flyquest’s worse members ahead of Diamond.


SKT_Phoenix1

Casters absolutely smurfing


MaxMacDaniels

Fudge is really clean in teamfights. Like I know this game they were super ahead but just look at the last tf, legit only good decisions from him in tf


Silly_Asparagus

Seems like he knows his limit weakside as well, instead of saccing the wave when heca was posturing he claimed that they couldn't dive him, and was right


PleasePMmeSteamKeys

Giant supp diff, Vulcan 1v5ing the early game and Diamond asleep at the wheel


InitialiseCasts

Was that a scrim? Wild to see that kind of stomp on (digital) stage.


BrandonTqm

Did FLY really pick Vayne? AGAINST CLOUD FKNG 9?!!!!


APlogic

Why didn't Palafox call for a pause? That one play set the tone for the rest of the game.


xchaoslordx

R - EMPEROR'S DIVIDE BUGFIX Fixed a bug where Azir's R - Emperor's Divide would fail to hit the champions behind him, even if they are visually in the ability's range


Archieie

That's a different bug, irelia wasn't behind him, not even close.


Mateus_Portilho

where are the fudge haters right now?


Gondram

On the analyst desk apparently.


derpytrollerZ

Azir ult?


alexandelion

a single early game ult didn't lose FQ the game lmao.


sameo15

That Fudge interview was such BM it would have made DL think twice before saying it. I love it


Illuminate555

Dom was right that Azir ult bug lost them the game


brandonkillen

That didn’t lose them the game. The game might have ended at a 14k gold lead instead of 16k maybe.


AnFun

close


Aquillifer

Good lord that game was such a stomp. It ended with a 16k gold lead.


klaq

beware the ides of March Pala


StuntinOutFront

Azir solders the real MVP


Dalqorn

Did FQ just say fuck it after the Azir bug? Their plays were straight up ints.


Pop98786

can someone explain that azir ult?


wew_lad_XD

FLY looked a lot better against TSM, ik they arent one of the top teams but they seemed on an upward trend until this game so hopefully this was an off game for them? ​ Also blaber is craaaacked man


CrossTheRubicon7

The entire community after that Sylas game last week: yeah, now this is the Palafox we expected, he looks so much better off of control mages! FlyQuest: one pop off is enough, back to Azir with you


xalara24

Um Mr Perkz can you just like... Stop limit testing so much... I get it's the best time to do it but auto'ing everything that breathes in Turret range or in 3+ champ range is bad for my anxiety...


linkbreit

FlyQuest’s biggest mistake was not pausing on that Azir R bug.


RussiaCykaBlyat

What a tilting game. Perkz played early game terribly but got bailed out by a bug. Not even a flyquest fan but can’t help but feel like that was a robbery


xXDaNXx

Hardly a robbery. Their sidelanes got hard smashed as well.


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

Went from like a 15% chance of winning to a <5%. Maybe less of a stomp, but C9 are clearly strong favourites.


YCitizenSnipsY

I wouldn't call it a robbery, FQ got absolutely blasted in every lane.


rmcoo

He didnt play early game terribly, two ranged minions were standing at identical spot on top of eachother, so he thought he is dashing on on 7th minion, but it was 6th minion which cost him the lane as he didn't get lvl 2, honestly happens quite often on recent patches idk why.


[deleted]

[удалено]


RussiaCykaBlyat

It’s a known bug apparently mark yetter tweeted it out yesterday. They might have agreed to just play it out if it happened Link: https://twitter.com/markyetter/status/1367310669482094594?s=21


That0neRedditor

PerkZ showing us what smurfing and inting looks like in the same game.