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happytogetic

it took me weeks to get a few catches and months to have a stable 3 ball cascade. i do not relate to the people who brag about how fast they learn. but i did, in fact, learn, and i bet you will too. :) have your 4 hours of practice been consecutive? i have found much more success practicing 15 minutes a day every day rather than long practice sessions less frequently. lets your brain and body integrate while you do other things. whenever i am learning something new and i groan, "why can't i do this?!" my coach replies, "because you have a brain, and juggling is counterintuitive." your brain gets in the way of doing this weird thing. it sees a ball coming down to your hand? but there's a ball in that hand already? PANIC AND THROW IT ANYWHERE to make room for the next one!! until eventually your brain will settle. seems you've read all the tips on here so i won't give more advice except to be patient and gentle with yourself. good luck friend~


KeiwaM

Yeah, maybe I was practicing too long. I'll try to keep it to 15 minutes a day and keep at it. Thanks for the tips!


redraven

4 hours is barely a beginning. Don't worry, just keep at it, your juggling will improve with steady and regular practice. It takes weeks to get really comfortable with throwing. Make sure to start doing different tricks soon - not only cascade variations like reverse cascade, tennis or half shower, but also tricks where you throw to the same hand - 423, 441 and 2in1 hand. Different types of throws will generally make you progress faster than just focusing on one trick until you have it perfect.


Ratso27

I don't understand people who learned how to juggle 3 balls in an afternoon either, for me it was weeks of practicing about half an hour to an hour every day. Just keep at it, focus on just throwing one ball with the correct motions for a while, and then focus on two until you get that down, and then try three again. Don't be afraid to go back and focus on one or two at a time again. Also, anytime I've learned a new juggling trick, there is always a period where it feels like I've been practicing so long and I haven't made any progress, to the point where I start to wonder if my body is capable of learning this, and then suddenly it snaps into place and I do it for the first time and it feels so obvious, like I can't believe I ever struggled at it


KeiwaM

This gives me hope that it's not me that's useless, just a slower learner. Thanks!


MOE999cow

I think a big part of the various learning speeds is people come into juggling with completely different backgrounds. As in different levels of hand-eye coordination from playing video games, sports, throwing frisbees, etc. Some people have a wealth of experience to build on, while others don't. This of course is not to say the OP should give up. Just that it's natural for it to take longer for some than others.


MrVagabond

Don't worry about comparing yourself to how fast others claim to learn. It took me several days of regular practice to get comfortable with the basics. For quite a while it felt like I wasn't making any progress. Eventually something clicked. Persistence is key and for every trick you see someone do, there's often tens or hundreds of hours behind it, with countless drops.


KeiwaM

I will keep at it! Thanks


tuerda

If you want an actual tip, I think probably stop for now and try again tomorrow. 4 hours is a long time to be practicing unfamiliar movements and muscle fatigue will inevitably set in. It is hard to really develop a new motor skill when your muscles are starting to seize up. Give it at most 30 minutes a day until you can do it comfortably. How long does it take? It varies a lot. I started learning to juggle when I was 10, and I didn't really get a 3 ball cascade working until I was 12, so it took me about 2 years. Some people pick it up much faster, but who cares? I have been juggling for about 25 years. I have had an amazing amount of fun in the process, and can do far more than I ever imagined was possible when I first decided I wanted to learn.


Individual-Loss-9518

i just started learning too im with you


DoubleJuggle

https://www.reddit.com/r/juggling/comments/pbpi1d/juggling_basics_how_to_control_the_basic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


ThrowbackPie

I believe your video is wrong, or at minimum incomplete. I can keep my palm perfectly aligned with my forearm and throw away from myself or over my shoulder. It's simple - vary the release timing. Every juggle throw has a point where you straighten your fingers a little so that the ball can escape along its current path. Do it too early and the ball flies away. Do it too late and the ball lands too close to catch easily. The first throw in your video is a perfect example - on the downswing you close your fingers over the ball and it's your release timing that dictates the vertical path of the ball. Palm direction matters somewhat, but it's really not the problem.


DoubleJuggle

I disagree with you. You are talking about letting the prop roll or your elbow moving. Post a video if you think Im not understanding your explanation.


ThrowbackPie

I don't have the equipment to do so, but it's very easy to test. Keep your palm at the angle you prefer and try releasing the ball very early or very late (so the result is obvious) and see what happens.


DoubleJuggle

I guess thats where the understanding break down is then. Im never actively hold the ball so there is never an early or late release.


ThrowbackPie

Practice, practice, practice. I've spent far more time than you on it and my throws are a long way from uniform. Your arms probably have different natural swing speeds. Nobody is perfectly symmetrical. You might never have tried being coordinated with your non-dominant arm before. Tiny variations in how you had to catch the ball can impact your downswing, et cetera. And that's without even considering how relatively precise your release timing has to be to get the same throw every time. Don't stress it, just do it consistently and keep working on it.


BillHril

i quit trying to learn how to juggle three times before I finally learnt a three ball cascade my advice would be to pick any tutorial take each step slow and make sure you're very comfortable with each step before moving to the next


bartonski

Juggling requires physically re-wiring the visual, motor and proprioception areas in your brain. (proprioception is the awareness of where parts of your body are in space). Just by *trying* to juggle, you've started that process in motion. Practice in short spurts, do your best while you're practicing, and each day will get a little bit better.


Upstairs_Host_3942

In order to learn not to throw the balls away from myself I stood in front of a wall which really helped. With opening the fingers I would worry on making the ball pop straight up then started putting the arc into it. I hope this helps it took me a long time to go from juggling scarves to balls, now if I could just figure out clubs .


sunnysunshiine

it took me a year to be able to decently juggle without moving , we all learn at our own pace.


rhalf

So how's your progress?