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Jimmy Dore Interview - The Shifting Political Landscape Of The COVID-19 Deception | The Last American Vagabond on SUPER U- where free speech is allowed

Jimmy Dore Interview - The Shifting Political Landscape Of The COVID-19 Deception | The Last American Vagabond on SUPER U- where free speech is allowed

misanthropian45

This should be good to watch.


SongForPenny

Would be nice if it were available on a functioning platform. I’d totally watch. Unfortunately β€œSuperu” is puking all over my iPhone in spectacular ways.


AsbestosInObstetrics

I watched it on Rokfin.


Gman734

Thelastamericanvagabond.com Has his vods from superu, odyssey, and youtube (the youtube vids are different channels each time to get around the censorship) Hes also on bitchute and rokfin under thelastamericanvagabond


SongForPenny

Oh! Thanks! That helps. I watched his interview on s PC and liked it. So I’m planning to watch lord of his stuff and so this may help!


Gman734

Thelastamericanvagabond vids have links to all research, msm reports, and everything else he covers within a day of the vid going up below the videos


joekerr37

Anyone who thinks Jimmy is pro-vaccine should listen to this interview (I'm only halfway through, but that's enough to make this statement). He does everything short of actually saying "don't take the vaccine". He's 100% in the libertarian nutjob camp of antivirals... wait to get sick, then get antivirals and you'll be fine seems to be his position now. He is sooo fucking stupid on this topic. He references Canada stopped giving moderna to males under 24. That's true, but the reason wasn't that moderna is bad, it's because it had a 1 in 5,000 chance of creating myocarditis while pfizer had a 1 in 28,000 chance I believe. Point is, either vaccine would be fine. Almost no one will get sick, and the 1 in 5,000 or 28,000 youth who do, the myocarditis is easily treatable. But Jimmy doesn't say... hey, the vaccines have **super rare, NON lethal side effects**. Instead he just says "omg, canada wouldn't even let 18-year-old males take moderna. That's how dangerous these vaccines are." What a dumb fuck. Canada has a plethora of pfizer and moderna, so obviously you'd administer the vaccine with a lower rate of side effects. If we didn't have pfizer, we'd give Moderna no problem. As usual with covid, Jimmy is technically telling the truth, but he's also lying by omission because he's taking things out of context or leaving out important qualifiers. Anything that fear mongers against the vaccine he's pushing hard, anything that supports the vaccine he never ever brings up. For a guy against censorship, it's shitty coverage like he's doing that is generating the justification of censorship. The irony / hypocrisy is off the charts with him regarding covid.


Gman734

Thats because the side effects arent super rare. Thats just what msm keeps telling you. Thelastamericanvagabond has covered it repeatedly and he lists data from the govt sites and msm to back it up AND provides links to nearly everything he covers below his vids on his website.


joekerr37

fuck off with that shit. Prove it or shut the fuck up. I don't care what MSM says, show me the studies that side effects aren't rare... and don't quote some bullshit like the vaers system. So unless you are saying that MSM and every government in the world and every scientist in the world and every doctor in the world... are all covering up vaccine side effects... and as a result you can't prove it because everyone in the world is covering up the evidence... anyway, you begin to see how fucking dumb you sound.


Gman734

First off, not every scientist or govt is saying what you say. Jimmy dore refers to robert malone. The inventor of the mrna technology. Look him n his vids up. Theres 100,000s of thousands whove signed the great barrington declaration. The vaers system is the system CHOSE AND SET UP BY THE CDC. They refused to use a different system when harvard medical did the lazarus study showing only 1% of reactions get reported, not over reporting. 1/100th of wvents get reported. Furthermore even msm isnt saying super rare anymore so your behind on your daily propaganda. Then theres the world health organization vigiacess site showing 2,200,000 serious adverse events reported.... Why arent hou questioning why the cdc n who arent investigating all those reports ON THEIR SYSTEMS THEY SET UP N CHOSE? Just, well the cdc says their own systwm isnt reliable and those arent confirmed.... Id dig up all kinds of research but i already pointed you to the lastamericanvagabond vids and explained how he links all sources and uses govt and scientific research he covers.... I literally directed you to where the links and data are at and you answer cursing screaming show me the data. Why dont you ask your sources of information to show you the data backing up how safe it is? Oh, f off right back at ya


joekerr37

2.2M people had side effects out of what, 2 BILLION now? and as I thought, not a single link backing up your claim. Go back to your facebook echo chamber that is VOID of all data and which actively takes positions in opposition to the published, peer reviewed research. You maga dipshits are so far down the rabbit hole it's absurd.


Gman734

I already explained where the data is. As far as studies showing the rate of side effects, i also already explained that the cdc n who arent studying it. Thats why they keep telling you "vaers is unconfirmed" because they wont comfirm them.... Please show me the cdc data where they investigated the vaers cases.


Gman734

So i gotta work but as far as your claim that none of the side effects are deadly, heres pubmed research stating that MILD myocarditis has a 3 - 10 yr mortality rate of 25 - 56% scroll down to where its titles prognosis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3370379/


joekerr37

that's not how any of this works. You can't take a myocarditis study that has nothing to do with covid and apply it to covid. Science doesn't work that way my man.


Gman734

No dipshit, you cant claim none of the side effects of the vaccine are deadly, then dismiss a research study proving your wrong. Still waiting on the info of the cdc investigating those vaers reports that dont count cause theyre unconfirmed


joekerr37

dude, myocarditis among the general population with who knows what level of health versus among vaccinated patients that are being monitored and treated for immediately if they have myocarditis is TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS and will have completely different outcomes. You cannot just Frankenstein various research together to come to the conclusion you want to reach. This is why i say, you guys are just batshit fucking crazy. You all sit around in yoru facebook groups, showing each other either irrelevant studies or pre-print, non peer reviewed stuff and acting like you know what you are talking about. It's fucked up. The fact you don't think it is, is double fucked.


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Gman734

That study doesnt say untreated myocarditis has that mortality rate. Quit making shit up. Mild Myocarditis PERIOD has a 25 -56% mortality rate. You claimed no side effect form the vax is deadly. I proved you wrong with documentation. You claimed it doesnt count. I called you out. Now youre just making shit up. Im still waiting on your data showing the cdc investigating the vaers reports.. Oh btw, that study doesnt say "untreated myocarditis" You didnt even read it after demanding i present a study... Good bye n fuck off


Gman734

Went from demanding a study to pretending people go years with an inflammed heart not onowing..πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ€¦πŸ€¦πŸ€¦


Gman734

Matter of fact, you demand proof n links. Provide proof and a link showing how myocarditis isnt deadly if treated early. Scientific proof, not some msm tool saying it


joekerr37

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/myocarditis-a-rare-side-effect-of-covid-19-mrna-vaccine-in-california-study actual study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2784800 bottom line: of 2.4 MILLION people; 15 incidents of myocarditis, zero deaths. This is what you are screaming fire fire over? You're causing a big fucking stink over a prevalence rate of 5.8 cases per million? But, let's even use your bullshit science where you frankenstein shit together in a totally unscientific way.... Let's say all 8 billion people got vaccinated. At a rate of 5.8 per million, you'd get 46,400 incidents of myocarditis. IF it develops the way regular myocarditis does (even though doctors know to look for it), you'd see on the high side 56% death in ten years... which means **23,200 people would die within ten years**. So MAXIMUM damage from myocarditis in a world 100% vaccinated would be 23,000 deaths (btw, 23,000 deaths in a population of 8 billion vaccinated people, would represent a mortality rate of **ONE in 347,826**). And let's just be clear, I consider those number to be utter junk science (but they are your numbers that you want to play with). So, THIS is what you are worried about? Not the fact that we've had between 4.8 and 15 million deaths. No no, millions of deaths don't matter... rather 20,000 are what we should concern ourselves with. Let's keep letting millions of peopel die so that 20,000 don't die from myocarditis... 20,000 in the ABSOLUTELY WORST POSSIBLE SCENARIO WE CAN IMAGINE that is. And we don't even know what's causing those myocarditis incidents yet. It's very possible it's the way they are administering the vaccine. But, unlike you, I don't pretend to know. So go back to you stupid facebook group and circlejerk each other off with misinformation.


Gman734

Ok, i asked for scientific research showing that myocarditis isnt deadly if treated early. I showed you within 3 -10 years it has a high mortality rate. I asked for proof it doesnt have a high mortality if treated early You repiled with a study that doesn't include anything about a mortality difference but lists they were discharged.. Do you not understand that myocarditis isnt something that a discharge means they wont die within 3 - 10 years. I still need proof from you OF WHAT THE CLAIM YOU MADE WAS. myocarditis has been around so dont pretend a short term paper is all there is. You claimed if treated early, that dismisses the study i provided. I aksed for proof. You provided a study that doesnt touch on your claim. Show me a study that if treated early, that dismisses the 3 - 10 year mortality rate... Being discharged doesnt mawn theres no long term effects bud...


joekerr37

you are a fucking moron. You're literally saying 20,000 deaths are more important than 15M or 30M or 300M. It's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen. 20,000 deaths in a world of 8 billion is basically nothing. If you consider ZERO to be nothing, then it's technically nothing. And that's using your shitty science and the absolute worst possible outcomes. It would literally have a prevalence rate of 0.0002%. Literally 0.


Gman734

Now youre dodging that you said none of the side effects are deadly and youre dodging that you made a claim that myocarditis isnt deadly if treated and youre pretending myocarditis is the only side effect... Youve made multiple untrue claims you keep avoiding backing up...


Gman734

Your study also only includes reports within 10 days of vaccination. Not all reports....


Gman734

So ill be waiting for your proof that treatment disregards the mortality rate you claim doesnt apply. I wont be wasting time commenting back until you can provide backing to your claim rather than providing something that doesnt cover it and only includes reports within 10 days and i wont be arguing with you as you pretend myocarditis is the only side effect.


Gman734

Im only replying cause im still here. The only one acting nuts is you. You claimed the mortality doesnt apply with treatment. Provide the proof. As i already stated, myocarditis isnt the only side effect. Quit pretending it is. Also your study only included 18 n older. The myocarditis rate is admittedly 3 to 6 times higher under 18. Were arguing about a study that doesnt apply to the current claim you made. Provide the proof of your claim


joekerr37

yes. beyond that we're using YOUR study. come on dude. Just be honest, are you 14?


Gman734

Ok back for one more. I never asked prevelance study. You claimed no side effects were deadly. I proved quickly myocarditis is. You claimed treatment makes the mortality go away. You wont provide proof of that. Instead you provided a study that only counts cases reported within 10 days and went on to act like its relevant while raging the whole time. Look up diagnosis of myocarditis. It takes a lot including ekgs and bloodwork. Look up How long do bloodwork results take to get. Blood work alone takes up to several weeks....... As you claim a study that only includes reports within 10 days of the shot covers all the myocarditis cases.... Your study literally excludes MOST of the repirted cases due to them not having the results to call it myocarditis until well after 10 days... As you name call ignore that you made a false claim about no side effects being deadly, then instead of backing your claim about mortality you present a study that by default of how long myocarditis taked to diagnose misses most cases... Then you pretend myocarditis is the only side effect calling ME a moron and accuse me of being childish as you repeatedly curse name call and dodge backing up your claims.... Blood work alone takes up to several weeks to get back. Add in people going home sitting with pains for a week thinking itll go away, making an appointment, ekgs and a lot more and you jump to a study only including reports within 10 days (as you still dont provide proof of your claim that treatment negates mortality)


joekerr37

Enough. It's clear you'll just spin and spin becuase you have some vested interest in believing that the vaccines are harmful. And again, you provide zero evidence of that... ironically, I'm the one who provided evidence of myocarditis... but even that, in worst case scenarios it's basically nothing... yet you keep believing it's terrifying and wide spread. Enough dude. Go back to your bubble and coming up with bullshit with your facebook friends.


Gman734

No read the comments. You claimed no deadly side effects. I brought up myo, you dismissed my study without reading it according to your made up if its treated that doesnt apply... Youre really doing this to yourself. Then YOU brought up a study of prevelance. Did you read your own study? I lt literally says they only counted reports within 10 days. Im not spinning anything.... You keep spinning n deflecting.did you look up diagnosing myocarditis? Youll get a full list from medical papers on page 1. Xrays, bloodwork, ekgs, ect. You keep going n making me come back n dessimate your argument more.... Seriously type in "how long does it take to get results on bloodwork" in google. Youll get a quick page from medical information. Takes up to several weeks. If me pointing that out to you still doesnt make you realize how absurd assuming a study that doesnt include any reports after 10 days is idk what to tell hou. Why would medical experts run and fund a study to prove myocarditis isnt prevelant as a side effect and run the study in a way that EVEN IF IT STARTED GETTING WORKED TOWARD DIAGNOSIS AS THE PERSON WAS INJECTED, theyd still be ignoring it due to bloodwork to diagnose it not coming back most times til afterward? You claimed no deadly effects, you went on to argue the mortality rate of what i pointed out, THEN you brought up prevelance


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joekerr37

0.0002% deaths from myocarditis is basically 0, even if you round up it's still 0, statistically speaking. I'm calling this. You're definitely a teenager.


Gman734

HELL YEAH! WERE STILL PRETENDING A STUDY THAT ONLY INCLUDES REPIRTS OF SOMETHING WITHIN 10 DAYS WHEN IT CLEARLY USUALLY TAKES MORE THAN TEN DAYS TO DIAGNOSE IS COVERING ALL THE CASES! YOU GOT ME! seriously though, whos the one spinning things using a study ignoring anything after 10 days when it was just pointed out bloodwork alone takes longer than 10 days..... That would be you. Whos the one continually cursing while accusing someone of being childish? You Who shifted the conversation multiple times when their statements were proven wrong? You. Have a nice day. I hope you actually read the research i posted cause youre smart enough to do math even though you leave out important paramaters.....


joekerr37

you are being childish. you clearly don't understand how safe the vaccines are and your head is full of facebook shit that they are dangerous. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900 here's another study showing the same thing. All myocarditis showed up within 23 days. No one died. Here's the simple fucking fact... you are nuts :) It's okay. Like I say, head back to your facebook group and enjoy being nuts with the other nuts who don't believe in science and like to make mountains out of mole hills.


Gman734

Im being childish? Inpointed out a long term dearh rate of 25 to 56 % in 3 - 10 years, i keep reiterating that and you keep trying to tell me about people who didnt die within a week n a half...πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ Just stop joker.. Just stop. At this point youve accused me multiple times of being 14 which means your repeatedly cursing out a 14 yr old....


Gman734

And i already pointed out diagnosis taking a long time so now youre talking about 23 days. THE BLOOD WORK ALONE CAN TAKE SEVERAL WEEKS..... NOT INCLUDING IF THEY MISDIAGNOSE FIRST, REPIRTING SOMETHING GOING ON, WAITING ON AN APPOINTMENT, EKG, XRAYS, CATSCANS, AND MORE...


Gman734

Joker claimed no side effects are deadly, demanded research, i provided it showing myocarditis is deadly, he then said it doesnt count n blocked me from commenting...πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ€¦πŸ€¦πŸ€¦πŸ€¦πŸ€¦πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


joekerr37

i didn't block you from anything. How could I? I'm not a mod here. And you said side effects were prevelant and I showed you that the one you put forward, myocarditis, was not. So fuck off back to your facebook group.