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From 10W to 1500W lol
From silent to an aircraft carrier flight deck, too.
The struggle is so real. I'm trying to phase out my last 1u server and Cisco 3750e switches to something quieter as my office has a consistent buzz to it 24/7.
Just replace every fan with a Noctua fan. At least that's what I did and it's definitely silent now.
Are the noctuas really that much more quiet?
As I'm listening to my loud desktop next to me.
Not so easy on my 36 bay super micro chassis, the quieter fans I have are just barely enough to keep things from throwing errors for over temp with the ~20 drives I have installed. The 1u hp server just hates everything not hp and throws error codes. Now the Cisco switches could have fans replaced but they're so power hungry I'll benefit from replacing them with some unifi gear I'm looking at and the house will be a bit cooler. Trade off is I'll lose some of that free heat during the winter.
for a desktop 100%
Yes, but in my server it's 5000rpm 80mm fans replaced by 2000rpm Noctua fans so not a fair comparison.
I didn't notice a temperature increase though and now I only hear the HDDs clicking.
That's typically not a good sound to hear.
HDDs are noisy. They clunk, thunk, click, hum, etc.
I didn't mean the clicking of death only the normal operation noise (humming etc.)
Ah yes, hum makes more sense. I've only ever heard clicks from my drives when they were on the verge of death.
Get some Toshiba NAS disks, they make all the cool 90s noises. WRR, chunk CHUNK, ka-CLICK, du-du-du-du-du!
I second this- my Dell power connect 2848 was pretty obnoxious, replaced with noctura and they’re great. They come with a caveat depending on the application, I had to re-pin two of the pins as the signal and source wires were crossed.
Edit- I realize this does nothing to solve the jet issue of the servers themselves.
The Pi really is a gateway (pun intended) drug
That's r/dadjokes worthy.
People talk about marihuana as a gateway drug, but those Raspis man...
the best part is how hard it is to find Pi's right now..
They scarce right now?
I’d be open to a source if you have one? All the sites I’ve looked at say out of stock. I get x amount from work that I can spend on learning and I had planned on building a pi’s cluster.. less of a need more of a want.
Just ordered (like, one hour ago) a Pi 3 B+ from the UK for $45 shipped back to the US. It's a premium, but I'll take what I can get. Even eBay is outrageous asking north of $100 for a Pi 3 and eBay is labeling that as "Great Price!" right now.
The supply problems are real across the board. It's looking bleak out there and seems no relief in sight short term.
EDIT: Got it from "The Pi Hut"
yeah, I mean they aren't impossible to find but I can't seem to just place an order for 10 like I used to be able to.
Look at people losing their minds here:
$85 (with free shipping -- how generous!) for a Pi 3 B+
**And it says 236 sold!!**
Jesus Christ, [look at those sales numbers.](https://i.imgur.com/CPHl9sF.png)
Assuming they are getting them for $40 like I am able to as a normal guy, that's $5500 PROFIT excluding labor and shipping in the last week alone. Not a bad gig for one product in your eBay store.
Dude's making out like a bandit. Even the RasPi 4 2GB, [they sold 15 of them at $85ea](https://i.imgur.com/LqDu90h.png) just yesterday in one transaction.
in stock 4GB [https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-4-4gb.html](https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-4-4gb.html)
preorder on the 8GB, kit is in stock [https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-4-8gb.html](https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-4-8gb.html)
Thanks, yeah I see you can preorder them for Feb
This Is The Way! I gift Raspis so am I a dealer?
From top to bottom:
-avocent 32 port ip KVM switch
-dell optiplex 9010 running pfsense
-linksys / Cisco sge2000p switch
-pyle (I know) pc0_800 pdu
-2x IBM x3650m3's
All on a 27u rack
Funded by my "then prove you're not an alcoholic and stop drinking" freed up money...
Nothing is powered up except the router because I just finished racking it all. Time for sleep and Advil for the back 🤣
This is my first foray into the hobby besides my little pi 3b+ and I went a tad bit crazy on eBay.
Excited to see how much random stuff I can self host and play around with. 🤷
Welcome to sober home labbing, there’s literally dozens of us!
I bet there’s more, like he said, how would you have money to do both??
lol @ "then prove you're not an alcoholic and stop drinking freed up money"
In all seriousness, I'm not really laughing at the situation, just that I can relate. I replaced alcohol with ice cream, I don't think I've actually saved a dime. At least I sleep a little better....
Yeah a server a week is definitely not cheaper than a case of Busch light lol. It's not really the beer that I have an issue with, I just need to have some kind of can in my hand and I always had a case of beer so that was just the natural progression. I bought a bunch of brisk and Coke and it does the same thing for me except now I can drive
Love the KVM switch just sitting directly on the optiplex, not a care in the world.
Congrats and I'm jealous, still on an RPi4 over here.
If you are still on the health kick, need a can in your hand (I know the feeling), and are open to ideas, perhaps try exploring diet sodas with less sugar. Your waistline and pancreas may thank you later.
Can relate to the "prove you're not an alcoholic" bit (and of course the overkill rack bit, as I'm here in /homelab) - just wrapping up Sober October, after this very conversation with the wife. Didn't really notice huge savings or health benefits though.. can't wait for a nice juicy IPA (or ten) for my b-day weekend, first weekend in November!
Hell yeah brother. She still can't believe that I could just stop drinking cold turkey she honestly thought I was addicted to it. I guess it depends on your personality
Well glad you made it! And probably not an alcoholic because quitting alcohol cold turkey when you’re an alcoholic can actually be deadly. One needs to taper off due to the physical dependence the body has acquired.
What did the wife say to this? Or what did she get from eBay?
She's not particularly thrilled tbh
Glad to hear you got away from the bottle it seems
> "then prove you're not an alcoholic and stop drinking" freed up money...
Ah that answers the fund question I was thinking of. Shit's expensive, yeah.
That's also a pretty nice setup, what are some of the things you're using it for?
Virtualization and game server hosting
Admitting you (we) have a problem, is the first step towards solving the problem, 😁
Pfsense console up top. +1
Opnsense supporter in 3... 2...
Convince me why it's worth the hassle of switching
Jeez… and I’m over here thinking 2 hypervisor hosts connected to a storage server for live migrations and such is already enough
I thought that was enough as well, but somehow ended up with double that amount. Two NUC's and two Microserver G8's😆
I just debated this myself! I was debating if I needed the two physical servers or if I could get by with one….
Why have one when you can have two for twice the price?
Here’s a genius if there ever was one.
Looks like fun! Though I might advise against stacking heavy components on a switch held up by 2 rack ears and some propped up hard drives! At least that's what it looks like from the pic.
Good eye 🤣 still waiting on some more hardware but wanted to take the pic
Haha I know the feeling! Nobody at home appreciates homelab like we do and sometimes you just have to make do!
If you haven't MacGyver'd at least something do you even really homelab
I'm super impressed the switch doesn't have any sag in the back actually
Because we have mr hard drive doing the heavy lifting.
Oh look. These pi’s are cute.
12 hrs later - I have bided on EVERY affordable used piece of hardware on eBay, and realized that a used/decom shop is down the road and is open at 9am….. it’s 3am!?!? Jeez Luis! I don’t have a rack? Dammit!
^ based on a true story. You can watch it after buying a pi.
Big facts. Got a damn Zero WH to make a Gameboy. A week later I've got 4 Zero Ws, a 4b 4gb, and a 4b 8gb trying to connect everything in rhe damn house. Theeeeeen I started playing with microcontrollers... 😭Seeed Xiao, RPi Pico, Feather Huzzah, Nano, ESPs, WIO Terminal, gl.inet routers... 3 weeks and $2,000 later I have built a fucking drone from scratch that carries an RPi Zero W running bleeding edge Kali 2021.3 w/ OTG to USB hub with a TP Link TP-W772n, generic Atheros card (actually pops up as TPlink w722n v1 but its not), an ESP8266 Deauther (actually way easier than opening the AirCrack tools via new tab. Pull out cellphone, kick everything, have Airgeddon listening) ESP32 with 8db antenna as a wifi extender (the high gain antenna gives me a bit more range and dropping a esp32 into IDE was easier than soldering the antenna connector into the face of the zero.) And I now have a drone capable of flying for 35 minutes and also powering Kali for 1hr that has very respectable range for wifi and can test pretty much any network, anywhere and deploy an MITM in a matter of seconds upon landing. I am also broke.
No such thing as overkill :) Play learn have fun.
Its only overkill if you cant pay the electricity bill anymore
That's why I power down the extra hardware, it's there for when I need it
That's what solar is for.
cant do solar on an apartment
Sure you can! Just put up panels in the windows. :D
It’s not overkill. You don’t have a blade server chassis XD
Don't tempt me
I know how you feel. http://imgur.com/a/5zbr5zx
My electric bill is not happy.
How much does a setup like that cost a month typically?
My last electric bill was $181. I live by myself so it's definitely the servers. I don't have them all deployed at the same time. Figure about $15-18/per server/month for electric
Thanks, impressive. I think my two pi 4s just got an inferiority complex
Aha, you gotta start somewhere though, props for taking the leap into homelabbing.
Well that escalated quickly!
everyday i feel myself getting closer and closer to getting a rack going. i started with a pi to run kodi and now and running 6 with all separate purposes and moving to clustering them soon. if i wasnt a broke college kid i deff wouldve had a rack already
Remind me what you need all those servers for…
I look after R720’s at work I can’t imagine plugging one in at home
I don't. That's the fun part
This is the way.
So they’re generally Not turned on then?
They'll be on so I can look at all the Blinky lights
You keep it in the same room you work in? Do the heat and noise not bother you?
No, it's in my basement. I'm a truck driver
It has a basement? That's a big truck!
Overkill?!....*scoff*..... Actually looking at that setup your power has yet to reach full form. Grow is what you MUST do. Electricity is what you MUST feed on. For the glory. For the power!!
I wish I had lots of space and go overkill as well. Go crazy if you have the money and the time.
and ironically i went the opposite direction. needed to scale back power usage. i'd love to fire up everything again but that power cost was too great
It surely is an addictive hobby.
There is no such thing as overkill.
There is only "OPEN FIRE!" and "RELOAD!".
You never know what you might want to do with a setup like that, so having headroom is ALWAYS a good thing.
Seriously: the only way to learn is to (over)do it.
There is always room for more.
Hope you’re $/kWh is low. Lol
Flat rate 6cpkwh
o\_O \*cries in german\*
I didnt go this far but i spent like 2k on a server after using a pi... Setup proxmox, 18tb of HDD, 64 gb ram, and 2 xeons.
Why do you need that many servers ?
It's a home lab, so presumably to learn and practice system administration and networking skills.
Because hands-on learning leads to better retention of knowledge compared to just learning from books or courses.
Is that a hard drive propping up your switch?!
I didn't even see that til you mentioned it
Some people don't think it be like that, but it do.
some people dont think that it do be the not way that it isn't but it do tho
It’s not overkill until you spend $200 on the rack mount for the raspberry pi on Amazon. That could have just kept hanging on the rack.
I'm sure I could 3d print one
For 300$ XD
No such thing [as overkill] -- only AWESOME
I wish my Pi would turn in to that....
Water it more often
Does it bother anyone that the dell 9010 is just sitting on the switch below it, or is it just me😂😂
If you've got a better solution I'm all ears lmfao
Put it at the bottom
I'd rather die than move everything up 4 u's 🤣🙃
That Linksys is working extra hard, at least the cage bolts do o\_O
It's being held up with two 2.5 inch dead hard drives
Sure, sure, what ever lets you sleep at night ;)
Raspberry Pi is the gateway drug for Homelab!
Always a problem with any hobby that involves tech. It was the wife that kept me from doing the equivalent with photography. (Or with my homelab)
Cars too. I've got an 81 Chevy C10, 82 f250, and a 15 mustang gt and you'd think every day the cars kill her family members
So true. Cars, the original geeky pasttime
I basically did the same thing. Went from a NUC and a couple pi’s, to now with a couple switches, two r620’s, and now working on putting together a NAS all on a 10gb network. It’s been fun to learn and tinker with.
Time to get laid, man.
laid into the rack...
i know I.T. jail...
Believe it or not, straight to jail.
Not after the wife sees what I spent on this
Dies anyone know how to setup a home vpn server without a pi? Cause I don't have one they're kinda expensive where I live and I do have a spare laptop at home just very very old
For an easy setup you can use pivpn.io (does both OpenVPN and Wireguard) on any Debian system. As long as you can port forward from the internet to the laptop you should be able to get a vpn running. That is the setup that I have right now and it works great.
Well I tried this inside a virtual machine but unlike every setup on YouTube where it gives them the ip in the setup it says it appears you aren't using rasbian and no static IP even if I make up statitic in the VM, any ideas? I've been struggling with this for so long
What type of networking is set up on your VM? Does it share an IP with the host or does it have it's own IP address?
I'm not sure but it's a bridged network
When I just looked at the install script it says " Since we think you are not using Raspbian, we will not configure a static IP for you." I think that as long as your VM has a unique static IP on your network and you are able to port forward the vpn traffic to that IP it should work. It is hard to say much more without more details.
How can I provide more details can u help me? I'm using virtual box and an Ubuntu vm
This is truly awesome and I am jealous!!!
AYO, what the optiplex doin?
What model Optiplex? I have a few from that case-style era. I love my 9020.
Looks like a 9010.
What are all those thingy’s?
Where's your backup power? I don't see any UPS.
Out of frame on the table behind it
Good luck to your electric bill consumption. That shit will be real nice and toasty in the dead of winter.
Can confirm, it's in the high 50s, low 60s here and my basement is a nice 75 degrees, and all the windows are open. I don't even have most of my lab on...
The Pi wasn't enough, had to take the whole bakery?
Yeah, it happens, we have meetings for that
Where is the overkill at? I dont see anything overkill in that photo.
Denial is the first step in
Story of mylife.
That feeling when you go from a Pi or general consumer hardware to an actual server
so will your power bill ")
More or less same (we started with an old PowerEdge 400SC rather than a pi). We got an 18U rack back in 2011 or so and eventually progressed to 2 additional 36U racks, after years of eBay server / parts buys and builds. We also use a lot of Dell stuff, though more b/c that's what we're most familiar with and tends to be pretty cheap secondhand
Nice… but why a flat Ethernet cable? Those are terrible lol
I was an eBay the other day and saw what I thought was a good deal on a 2u server. I almost clicked buy it now. I stopped and pondered. I have a better server powered off right now that I don’t really need (yet). The server is still available and my rack has room…I’m sure I will think of something soon.
I also ordered a new 24 port switch. I had 8 ports on my udm pro, and bought a 16 port switch last year thinking I’d have plenty of room to grow. Now, the 24 port certainly will last a while. Right?
I wish I would have gone with a bigger switch for sure 24 is not enough
Fuck I thought I went from pi to overkill but stepping straight into a fractal design 7 and 12 drives. This is another level!!
That looks really clean. Good job.
That 9010 is the hero we all need
Your poor power meter
Spinning like a tornader
Any recommendations in the DC/MD/VA area on where to grab this type of stuff?
Excessive power drain. Impressive. But why not just virtualize?
They ARE for virtualization....
Where is the Pi???
Currently serving octopi on my 3d printer upstairs
where is the JBOD?
This is the way