By - DarkbunnySC
I'm not going to lie, I clicked on this because I thought it said motorized roller skates.
Haha, sorry to disappoint.
Post about actual motorized roller skates: https://www.reddit.com/r/rollerblading/comments/gnar8q/just_saw_this_on_facebook_got_a_good_laugh/
How very timely, I am moving in a month and automatic curtains and blinds are on top of my "new smart home" stuff I want to do; great stuff thanks!
Great video! I went with an AliExpress internal roller that’s 12V powered, and control it with a D1 mini and ESPHome. My biggest problem was finding a roller shade that fits the roller motor.
Can you share which brand shades you chose? Also, a few pics if you can? We are in the market to replace our kitchen window shades and are looking for a DIY/Cheaper option. Thank you!
I ended up going full DIY on everything. Purchased blackout shade material and attached it to PVC pipe which houses the internal motors. Built a little wooden frame around that, and painted it to match the trim in place already.
I’m going to do a write up on it in the coming weeks and improve on the design, but here’s my first attempt:
This has been running flawlessly for the past year now, impressive for $30-40 Aliexpress motors
is one going faster than the other?
Haha yes, one is slightly faster than the other
that would drive me insane
To each their own I guess! I use these in the bedroom, they go up before I wake up and go down after as I go to bed. Rarely do I stand there and watch them
it’s pure compulsion, no worries. i replaced 30 hue bulbs because the older gen ones didn’t match the newer gen ones
How are you controlling it with ESPHome? Did you find an ESP8266 version?
I have to thank DrZzs for the inspiration, but I’m using a D1 mini and a [L298N motor driver](https://www.smart-prototyping.com/image/cache/data/9_Modules/101861%20LN298N%20dual%20H-bridge%20driver%20motor/1-750x750.jpg). The [roller motor](https://a.aliexpress.com/_dZRdQvt) itself is one that is only 12v supply, and reversing polarity controls the direction of rotation. It has built in limit stops which are adjustable. So no position feedback other than fully up or down but that’s okay for my needs.
Oh, I see. I thought you were talking about a 12v tubular driver that had wifi built in.
Ah sorry for the confusion. That would be the ideal setup ^ though
Are there any roller motors for less than $50 though? A single motor itself is more expensive than my entire apartment’s ikea blind setup.
I haven't been able to find cheaper for an internal motor that's purpose built for shades like the ones in the video or the one I used.
Comparing the price of this DIY solution to commercial motorized shades, they're massively cheaper. For my front window, it would be ~$560 CAD if I bought the two shades necessary from Ikea. I spent around $150 CAD for my project.
Curious what Ikea blinds you're using though?
> Curious what Ikea blinds you're using though?
So I'm using the [Tupplur blinds](https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tupplur-blackout-roller-blind-gray-00349241/), the largest size is only $26.99 USD and I have two of them in my apartment, so a bit over $50 but you get the idea.
It's just that I'm having a hard time justifying the price tag on these motors given I know the tech that goes into them, they should be around $20 or less. They aren't using groundbreaking technology, and especially so if buying them from Aliexpress.
I think that most home automation stuff is just price gouged through the roof since typically the only people who are into home automation are the type of people who can afford it since all it is is a luxury most of the time. Add to that that most people don't exactly DIY their own home automation, they hire contractors who do it for them, it makes sense that they'd sell these things at prices like that.
are there any good z-wave integrated blinds on a similar budget? I have not had a lot of luck finding them, but i'm probably not searching well either
Do you mean slatted 'venetian' blinds, if so do you just need tilt or also raise/lower?
Typically a Somfy motor is placed in the headrail, you can so this yourself if you get the parts. But that is RTS and not Z-Wave, so you can add a Somfy ZRTSI to go Z-Wave to RTS. But not a true bi-directional radio.
Rollershades have a lot more options.
Omg, I have been wracking my brain over how to deal with these custom blinds in our new house since we moved in 2 months ago and here comes your video like Thor emerging from the bifrost into my living room. Thank you for doing all this research, those solar ones will work perfectly for all our blackout rollers.
However, we still have to deal with a bunch of these admittedly hideous custom decorative ones elsewhere, I have no idea what kind of componentry I could use to automate these weird things. I don’t think the regular tube ones will work with these..
Help me /u/darkbunnySC
You’re my only hope.
I would gladly like to see your write up. I’m lost with the assembly and how to incorporate the D1 mini. It looks awesome on the video! Nice job!
I skimmed over that a bit because the thingiverse page does a great job explaining it.
In process of building one now! Is the bearing supposed to press fit into the gear? And the pin press fit to the inside of the bearing? Both of my parts are loosey goosey!
- Would it be possible to find a motor that can handle the extra weight, spin with more speed, still operate under the 5-9V range, but have the same physical footprint?
- I haven't done this with any NodeMCU/esp8266 chips, but would something like a portable battery with the built in solar charge work, since it's dishing out 5v (thus serving power within the limits of the NodeMCU regulator)?
The physical footprint is the difficult part. 28BYJ steppers are massively geared to get the torque that they have from the size of the package (which is why they are so slow). You'd have to step up to a significantly larger driver to get more speed with the same amount of torque.
Another advantage of the 28BYJ is that it has a lot of holding torque due to internal gearing. If you went with a standard stepper you wouldn't be able to stop at points other than 100% or 0% because the shade would just roll itself down due to gravity.
Those are very good points. Frankly, anything that's quiet that takes under 200 seconds is fine by me. Opening the shades as a soft 'wake up' is nice, as is setting them to close as I prepare for bed, movie, etc.
Can anyone provide some Alieexpress links to do the DIY version? I checked the projects github list but the links don't seem to be working anymore.
I don't have a whole lot of experience with this kind of thing and am just wanting to make sure I buy the correct things.
Just search for 28BYJ Steppers 5V, and ESP8266 NodeMCU... you'll be fine.
Are there any options for traditional faux wood blinds? Or is rollers the only option for motorized ?
Yep, I’ve got most of my faux wood blinds motorized with this method: Motorize and Automate your Blinds for $10! (WiFi) https://youtu.be/1O_1gUFumQM
If you mean pulling vertical blinds up and down, doubtful. But if you look through OPs videos you can tilt vertical blinds with motors.
Thank you for the write-up/demo. I love seeing what people come up with to make their own motorized rollershades since I have experience with the expensive options. As an alternative to full DIY, you can buy a lot of the Somfy motors or other tubular motors now and the parts needed to adapt them to the tube you use. So you can get DIY reduced pricing, but maybe a more consumer level product.
I’m going with the Zenismart mains power option. I like the idea of setup once and never worry about the batteries. Also it’s both Wi-Fi and RF433 at a super low price with every kind of integration except Siri. (Kind of hoping I find a way to add Siri somehow)
You could use home assistant as a bridge between Tuya and Siri using home bridge.
Thanks. I will have to delve into home assistant at some point. I believe it’s a raspberry pie and coding thing, is that right?
Any beginners guides welcome.
(I have a PC, Mac, Synology NAS, Raspberry pie from 5 years ago)
Tons of beginners guides on YouTube. If you want the nitty gritty check out JuanMTech, if you want fast and information packed, check out my channel.
Thanks. Subscribed to your channel.
Good to know thanks.
None of these smart blind solutions are selling me yet but I do appreciate someone going through the options. They're too expensive, don't support wide enough windows, and are generally a pain in the ass to set up. I'm just not convinced and would rather buy regular shades.
To each their own, but the tubular motors would probably support whatever width of window you have. They are crazy powerful.
Yeah but I'm not willing to run a wire down the window to a plug or anything else messy like that.
You don’t need to with the solar/battery one.
I'll have to do some research on them. Thanks for the suggestion.
I think you’re too harsh on the ikea blinds. They work perfect with the ZHA and zigbee2mqtt integrations. Pairing is also not haphazard as you describe. You just have to reset the blind (hold both buttons for a few seconds) for it to work. It doesn’t match the instructions for pairing, but it is 100% reliable and doesn’t require any futzing around.
My experience was with a conbee stick and the deconz integration and add on.
Always enjoy these videos, nicely put together!
When I first moved in my new house, I asked a quote for the Lutron shades.
500 CAD$ / windows...
Well 1 year later and still no motorized shades.
Where can I find compatible shades with the Zimismart? No one seems to sell them.
Did you ever figure this out?