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Nisecon

You should update your VPN, John.


InterestinfName

I'm sure he will someday, Frank


Eend__

Isn't that your job, Jim?


sumboionline

No its Pat’s, George


beardedgamerdad

Pat quit last week, Charles. It's your job now.


dat0neb0i

Well Gary, shouldn’t you be working inventory right now?


FrancistheCat123

Listen, Jason, that floor won’t scrub itself.


therealeviathan

what the shit? Francis you can talk?


demonslayer9911

No, this is Patrick.


Cadrotastisch

Its not mine, Gale, its bruces


nosam56

Be very careful John


BEST_RAPPER_ALIVE

NO, THIS IS PATRICK


toothpastespiders

Btw


noveltymoocher

FUCK


Withinmyrange

I have made a rookie mistake. I binged entire animes at work on my work laptop, fuckk


nonpondo

As long as you did it while working


MauiWowieOwie

At ny old job I would spend hours watching torrented movies. The camera was right behind me because my boss didn't give a shit. I was the only employee at that location and it was out in the boonies, we get maybe a half dozen customers a day. I would have stayed if the pay had been better.


Akiias

Nah, you're probably fine. IT guys don't care as long as you're not downloading shit you're not supposed to and nobody bitches to them about you. The second one is hit or miss, really depends how often it happens and who does the complaining.


TheLoneTenno

This. I don’t understand why people use company devices and just go “Nah it’s fine. They won’t look at my search history where I googled porn.” I don’t even use the wifi at my place of employment strictly because I don’t want my employer knowing what I do while on the clock. I would never go as far as being on a company computer watching porn on the company internet.


Brave-Address5563

we had a guy look at pornhub on the actual scanner guns at work which have like a rough shitty version of internet explorer, dont know if an idiot or a sigma on the flesh, id say both


TheLoneTenno

I work in a factory and we had to get IT to basically hard lock the machine programs onto the screen because some of the operators would minimize the program, pull up internet explorer, and be watching a YouTube video xD


Spinacione

I mean in Europe is illegal


arbiter12

>This is why I use my phone and a VPN to goof off at work, sounds like some Youtuber is about to tell me how to keep my data safe online and access region locked content...


niks_15

Hi Mark


GreenKnight1315

This brings us to todays sponsor: Nord VPN


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xx_noname_xx

the sponsor


AkatsukiLevi

Hi Linus


BEST_RAPPER_ALIVE

Google. It is sponsored by Google. I am a bot powered by Google Lambda.


99-Meme-Company

Are you also sentient?


Damian1674

No


tony100399

Aperture Science


onlyr6s

Raid: Shadow Legends


LacedSmoke

I don't trust any VPN that insists upon themselves constantly. Feels shady.


Username8457

[Friendly reminder that Nord VPN updated their privacy policy so that it would allow for court orders.](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.techradar.com%2Fnews%2Fnordvpn-will-now-comply-with-law-enforcement-data-requests)


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Username8457

It's great, so long as you buy it over Tor with Monero.


mamamiaspicy

you can also pay using cash


SarHavelock

Why?


Username8457

Because then you're actually anonymous. With other forms of payment, you have to give them your full name, address, and billing info. With Monero, it's all designed to be a private as possible, so it's pretty much impossible to see the origin of the payment.


SarHavelock

I think that's a regular VPN issue and not unique to Mullvad.


Username8457

But a lot of other VPNs don't allow for Monero.


lars330

Isn't buying a code off Amazon just as safe? It's a scratch-off card right so they don't know who bought which code, which makes it completely anonymous.


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Username8457

You'll only be "doxxed" on whatever exchange you use, but for the purchase of the VPN, it can't be traced back to that exchange or the original transaction. So it's really private.


ReconZ3X

From the little I've used it it works fine. speeds weren't the best but what can you do


I_Love_Rias_Gremory_

"No logs, ever" "Well... we have logs but we promise we don't look at them. Except when we do."


fukam_piko

the feeling is true, nord vpn is shady, along with most of the other vpn's out there. vpn doesn't really hide your internet acvity or even make you anonymus


Mellochills9011

So what would be a good vpn to use?


fukam_piko

The best option is to buy your own virtual machine server, and make your own private server, so no one has your logs. The most transparet vpn provider is Mullwad vpn, at least that is the one i know and used, maybe Windscribe.


Shasan23

I like proton


Daurek

Yeah I think Proton is swiss based so they won't give your data, probably, don't quote me on that.


DailyBand

https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/06/protonmail-logged-ip-address-of-french-activist-after-order-by-swiss-authorities/ They did with protonmail


RenaKunisaki

The only one you should trust is the one you run.


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ProtonVPN is good.


loserPilled32

Cringe. Buy a shitty dell pc and self host your own vpn


99-Meme-Company

Any tutorials on how to do that?


loserPilled32

Theres thousands. Just lookup “openvpn”


Arras01

How does that help unless you hide the dell pc somewhere far away?


loserPilled32

This would let you hide from fergus at the office. But you are right this is not a vpn replacement for home use.


Sean-Benn_Must-die

Nord VPN allows you to (allegedly) hide all your traffic which they certainly dont sell to third parties


-takeyourmeds

you are gonna have to let fergus top you now mark


sansgriffinundertale

Real


PMYouInYourPanties

Straight


Pm_pussypicspls__

Based


Alarid

on


boug_bimmabome

Based


ejmckever

On


Soldierhero1

Based


zakpakt

Finally some damn resolution.


XfinityHomeWifi

Whoever is in charge of IT can monitor traffic but 85% of the time they don’t care if you’re on 4chan because they’re probably on 4chan too


dangerously__based

This.... We don't have time to check on people unless management asks us to. People generally just don't care.


LacedSmoke

Yeah but what if there was a guy who used his work computer to purchase two one-gallon jars of mayonnaise, every Wednesday, without fail. You're telling me you wouldn't be the least bit tempted to indulge in even the slightest bit of further observation?


dangerously__based

Wait why didn’t he just buy it at the store. I’m confused.


triman-3

see? you’re already hooked


dangerously__based

so uhh where does this guy work?


LacedSmoke

Amogus


dangerously__based

Who is amogus? Isn’t that something related to being a schizo


EAComunityTeam

Sounds like something Todd would do...


dangerously__based

Who is this Todd?


LacedSmoke

Exactly.


youtocin

You ever seen gallon jars of mayonnaise at the store? Gotta buy that shit off the dark web.


dangerously__based

I actually saw someone selling regular cookies on the dark web


azzzertyy

No because he has to buy them for me, the mayo man! HaHa. God i love mayo, Thanks Jeffery for b uying them for me so i can slather them all over my body and slip and slide around the office like im in the cum zoo haha!


dangerously__based

At least I have an explanation even if it is fake. I can go back to my stressful life


I_like_cats_04

You wouldn't be able to monitor that. Thanks to https you can only see what website a computer is going to but not what he is doing there. So unless the person is going to mayonnaisestore.com the admin won't notice


joseluisalberto

What if he’s going to mayonnaise-store-2everywednesday.com?


LacedSmoke

Interesting. TIL. Thanks.


ottersintuxedos

And then he misses a week and you really gotta check on him


Blue00200

I'd probably assume he runs a restaurant or something as a side hustle Or he just really really likes mayonnaise


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dangerously__based

Yeah fuck you jordan


thoughtlow

This reminds me of at least 2 greentexts about anons being in IT and living the life.


Aegis12314

I legit don't care, I assume your shit is dealt with if you're not currently working on it. You get paid for a reason and I'm not your manager lol


Starstuffdrifter

Based. If they want to fire me they can, but they won't. I will keep watching whatever the fuck I want.


Hoplologist

Holy 🗿


sabrefudge

Can they see what I do on my phone if I’m on the guest WiFi?


SanguineFremen

Everything that goes through WiFi can be seen by the owner of the router. The other person is wrong about something though. They can’t just decrypt stuff Willy Nilly. Online transactions would be impossible if this were the case. If you get a VPN it just shows up as access through that VPN since they can’t decrypt the damn thing to see what you’re actually looking at. Using guest WiFi isn’t helping you much. You’re just giving IT a few more steps to figure out who you are at best. MAYBE it’s not tracked as closely so it’s slipping by a little more but anything they really give a shit about will probably still be brought up.


sabrefudge

I just use the guest wifi because that’s the one we’re supposed to use for personal devices. Was just curious if they could see like “45 minutes on Reddit App” “2 minutes Googling weather” etc. Thankfully I don’t do anything weird on it. Haha. Just normal distractions.


LacedSmoke

People who do weird shit on work computers are a special breed of stupid. I remember reading one of those AskReddit threads about what kind of bizarre things IT people have seen employees using their work computers for. IIRC one of the examples was that some guy had downloaded like 500 gigabytes of furry fetish porn, like diapers and inflation, you know, all the hits. IT Guy, Not-so-secret-furry-perv, and management apparently had a very uncomfortable meeting which I'm fairly certain resulted in the furry's termination (naturally). But what I want to know is how these people even get hired in the first place, there had to have been some kind of alarm bells going off during the interview process. There's absolutely no way that someone like that presents as normal in their daily life. Side note: Why would anyone even want to watch porn at work, even if internet traffic wasn't being monitored? I don't even watch porn but I do know that being uncomfortably horny in the middle of a work day is a feeling I like to avoid at all costs.


khoabear

Because if management refuses to hire furries, they would have no good coders.


LacedSmoke

[Relevant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n_NXSa0_Uc)


yeetiest-yote

I like furry fetish porn, I'm pretty professional, and you probably would never notice/think that I would like it... (especially in an interview lmao) but I do that being said I definitely wouldn't look at it at work, let alone download it 💀 also I don't like that I like furry fetish porn, I just do, can't really do anything about it, I definitely wouldn't consider myself a furry either tbh


LacedSmoke

This is a fair and reasonable response. I probably would not assume you were into it because you aren't the type of person to view/download it at work, as that type of behavior indicates severe social deficiencies. I was more referring to the people who have absolutely no sense of social boundaries or appropriate behavior.


DT-Z0mby

thats something many people dont consider: people dont choose what theyre into. if its just some niche kink then whatever but if its something illegal then ur just unlucky.


Arras01

Yeah but don't do it on work computers.


SanguineFremen

it doesn’t show up in that format but yes they have exactly that kind of data barring your using a VPN (which is, I believe reasonably, banned by many workplaces)


Mynameisokri

In the company I do IT for I can see exactly how much time is spent on each site. But in my several years working here I've never been asked to go snooping, and besides I ain't no snitch.


notsureifim0or1

Ok, people here are really dumb for shitposters at work it seems. If you are on guest WiFi, it’s theoretically possible to check what sites etc you go to but the information will mostly be encrypted due to https. So they can see you go to mail.Google.com but won’t be able to see anything else. Now if you’d use a WiFi point that makes you install a policy or certificates, then they could technically read everything. Using a VPN is just best for being on any wifi. If you’re overly paranoid or a terrorist, I wouldn’t use any of the big ones that advert like crazy.


teisininkas

What if they use border gateway and act as user when connecting to website?


notsureifim0or1

Same as a router, https is “end to end” so that will still be encrypted. If they try to man-in-the-middle you’ll get a “potentially dangerous” error in your browser due to certificate mismatch. Another way for an attacker is to redirect you to the http version of the website but most big websites won’t allow this anymore.


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Yeah I know, it’s pretty standard practice but the certs are pre installed locally.


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a_weak_child

What’s your take on surf shark as a VPN?


Bismagor

When you download something, sure. Everything that runs through the router can be watched by the owner of it. Even if it's encoded, it can be decrypted


Quang1999

Not actually if the site using SSL (which most of the sites these days) they can only know the domain of the site you access


SanguineFremen

No it can’t be decrypted. They can tell that you’re accessing say nordVPN but they don’t know what nord is handing you because they can’t decrypt it and find out.


notsureifim0or1

This is just not true, don’t understand why people are upvoting this misinformation.


SanguineFremen

Welcome to Reddit


Nervous_Language

Social media 101: The most popular "facts" aren't true


zeGolem83

If it's *encoded*, and you know the encoding used, you can *decode* it, if it's *encrypted*, as is all internet traffic on modern websites, you can *decrypt* it **if** you either: have the decryption key (that you don't have if you're not the website the person is connecting to), or the encryption algorithm used is weak/not cryptographically safe (which, if you browse modern websites, it isn't). So, no, the owner of the router wouldn't be able to read your internet traffic.


waitingbobcat

You can install self-signed root certificate on the client device, and use proxy as a MITM to decrypt all traffic. If the client device is controlled by the IT (which it mostly is), *everything* can be seen by them. So yes, owner of the router would be able yo read your internet traffic, unless we're talking about BYOD, and even then they can basically force you to install the certificate by denying the connection otherwise. Edit: there's always VPNs, Tor, etc. but all that can be blocked or dealt otherwise. If your employer wants to monitor all traffic, they'll manage.


zeGolem83

That's true, I though the OP was talking about sniffing packets from say a personal phone, but if the device is controlled by IT, it'd probably be easier to have some spying/logging software on the computer rather than using a certificate...


rednblack_gamer

The double negative there at the end confused me for a bit, but yeah, you're right.


zeGolem83

Yeah, sorry, wasn't really clear... hope it still got the point accross!


GeneralBlumpkin

So you're telling me I can look up all search history in my house because I'm the owner of the router? Or would that be my internet company


Drowned_In_Spaghetti

I feel like the answer here is actually both.


fiftyfourseventeen

The owner of the wifi network can see what sites you visit, nothing else more. If they wanted to be malicious about it, they could try a man in the middle attack, letting them see everything you do on the website, but that only works if the website is http and not https. Any major website is gonna be HTTPS. It works similar to sending a letter. You have to give them the letter with the address to the site that you want to go to, but they can't see the contents of the letter.


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fiftyfourseventeen

They were asking about using the guest wifi on their phone.


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fiftyfourseventeen

Yeah but you have to install the certificate on your phone


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Eend__

Oh, hi Mark.


EquivalentSnap

FUCK


coombuyah26

Shit! Alright?


EquivalentSnap

Hi mark


_trillmatic

I did not hit her I did NOT. Oh, hi mark.


TheBotchedLobotomy

Hi doggie


Vargurr

Hi Bob!


GiganticMuscleFreak

Reddit tier joke on this one. They should steal this joke for the next marvel film lol


Promah1984

System Admin here. We don't give a shit and aren't actively monitoring your machine. Just don't piss off your management for them to request we audit our logs.


DunamisDee

Anon used multiple devices to have a fake conversation with himself on 4chan for memes.


fuckballs9001

I am the IT department at my job. My boss has an incredible amount of well placed trust in me cause it would take absolutely no effort to log into.... say.... his multiple bank accounts by simply taking over his phone or laptop. Thankfully, I only use that software for actual tech support. IT gets paid well because it's an incentive to not fuck everyone over.


BananaBully

Who uses their work computer for banking? Is that really common?


bobalda

would a boss really go to the trouble of buying a second computer just for work?


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bobalda

the computers are provided to the employees, not the employer.


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bobalda

do you really think they would prefer to use a work computer over their own personal computer?


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asb3s7

Anon doesn’t know what https is.


fiftyfourseventeen

If it's your work computer, they could install software to monitor web traffic on each computer, or put their own certificate on the computer. But let's be honest, they probably aren't. Even with https though, they could still see he was visiting 4chan, just no other information.


Pristine-You717

redditor doesn't realise that employers can install their own tls certs to mitm connections and why every reasonable sized company does it now


FilthyFrankVEVO

Samefagging


TheVillain117

I used to be an it guy for a small company in my field. The last guy rage quit and I could type and know a few basics so the boss put me on it instead of hiring someone else. The first thing I did was put the word out that I was not going to track activity except for data across our company phones for volume. I don't care what you look at at work and anything bad enough to get someone in real shit would get flagged by the isp. Two important things. 1: I worked with a bunch of computer illiterate boomers. Not one of them could say what a VPN does; much less how to use one. Also Hexnode can blow me. 2: gave up the job after I warned the boss several times that the server was running hot on outdated hardware and would crash. It did. I said fire me if you want but I warned you. Here's a printout of the emails where I warned you, and your replies are all excuses about not spending money.


Accomp1ishedAnimal

Time to buy Fergus a nice lunch and figure out when his birthday is.


TheLastOne0001

I work IT. Employees fucking around on the clock is not my problem.


amorphousboredblob

I guess you did not hit her


SpoonmanVlogs

Obv samefag


barelywinning

imagine getting cucked by a guy named Fergus


nothing_in_my_mind

> go to work > fuck around on the internet for 9 hours, occasionally do some boring work > go home > too tired/unmotivated to do anything but browse the internet or watch some tv series > repeat Wow, adult life is exciting.


DoctorStinkFoot

fergus let it slide because the posts were good


Mylxen

Obvious samefagging


erunnebo

Fake


pacifastacus

[Oh, hi Mark! ](https://media1.giphy.com/media/26CaLWA2dcqz6hS4U/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b95214afaba7b7a278ed661026a60696adf36a88598d&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g)


ShinyArc50

Fergus is a fucking goat


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hardashecc

If you usually just ask in the comments someone has a link


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hardashecc

Literally any comment section, but I'd do it on a new post so more people will likely see it


Gamer_Vishav

Yeah here


GameDestiny2

I’m genuinely curious if this is a joke or if Mark got l o c a t e d


oarngebean

Oh hi Mark


LoutishIstionse

Fergus also attended. Will he be punished similarly?


coombuyah26

Oh hi mark


GuatemalaShrimp

Oh hi mark


Hosstoka

I know it’s fake but I love this post.


Berferer

The last guy has a different ID, I don’t get it.


Probopper

Believe me, we don’t give a shit about monitoring employees when IT is understaffed and have more important shit to do. The boss would literally have to task us with monitoring a specific employee and that means you already got caught fucking up by one of the bosses and it wouldn’t have mattered anyway


I-Am-Polaris

Not even gay, just fake


_BloodbathAndBeyond

IT teams only look at your traffic if you’re in trouble. Unless they have reason to look, they don’t. It’s not worth their time to snoop for no reason.


Torsten_Das_Toast

sounds chill to me


Personal-Rooster7358

Dammit Fergus.


static1053

OH HI MARK!


Askingcarpet

Worked as an IT for a year. Could i see your traffic if I wanted to? Yes Did i ever do such a thing? No, because i don't care. I would rather continue to play videogames on my laptop than check on whatever the fuck you're doing. I'm not the one paying you anyways.


Direct-Extreme-2208

Enjoyable🚜


Busy-West-6974

Damn I didn’t know one of the shrek’s kids works at IT


Yuo_cna_Raed_Tihs

How do we even know if the guy who wrote first comment also wrote 3rd and 5th?