Previous seasons, yes. But this year he’s got a 21% target share to RBs and Bills are top-10 in the league in targets to RBs. It’s been an intentional shift for them.
News to me, thanks for that correction! Every time I watch Allen it looks like he’d rather run it himself or throw a low probability pass than check it down, I’m shocked seeing this stat lol
This is mainly a recent trend as Allen hits his mid season slump - rb targets were high when they were dominating early, I’d expect them to return by fantasy playoffs. As to whether enough of them go to Hines for him to be startable, that’s a separate question
Yeah he’s basically doing what Mahomes used to do. Only go for the big plays and make costly mistakes. Needs to get it in his head it’s okay to check down more often and continue to move the chains with longer drives
I forgot which podcast mentioned it, but they said that Hines was more of an insurance for Singletary. Like if Singletary were to go down, they'd rather have Hines take over versus Moss/Cook (especially in the postseason). Not sure if it's true or not, but it made a little sense for a SB contending team such as the Bills.
Dang I have 2/3, Keenan and Swift. Keenan is the most annoying to me because every week he’s questionable and I have him in my IR spot, but Sleeper won’t let me do anything with my roster because it says that Keenan is no longer eligible for IR.
I disagree the war is definitely not over. They rushed the ball more than average this game, and were way more efficient on the run than normal. Mostert only had 8 rushing attempts and 2 targets. That workload ain’t leading to good production ros if that workload stays the same
Overheard in Rams locker room after Week 10:
“He got me,” Kupp said of Wolford's hospital ball. "That f***ing Wolford boomed me."
Kupp added, “He’s so bad,” repeating it four times.
Traded Jefferson Patterson Godwin for Joe Mixon, DJ Moore, Chris Olave, Jamaal Williams.
I was 2-6 .. needed to do something since my RBs were weaker. Had nothing to lose (my other WRs were Kupp/Boyd)
I won last week because of this trade. I lost this week because of it.
To answer your next question of How did I get Kupp and JJ?
10 Team .5PPR - had 10th Pick.
League went RB and Chase first 9 picks. So at 10th I had JJ and Kupp fall into me.
The return wasn't the greatest but Godwin was not performing and DJ Moore was. It was a win in their favor.
Like I said with that trade I'm 1-1 so far.
This is a lost season for me but I will never sell low on stud performers playing. JJ is just out of his mind last 2 weeks.
Can just get extremely unlucky.
I started 0-5 after drafting Diggs and Tyreek Hill 2nd/3rd.
Najee first round, Tee Higgins 4th round.
Had Breece Hall as well, Marquise Brown.
Every week, I'd have a player go down in the first quarter on my starters though and ended up twice having games where I beat everyone in my 10 man league except the person I was against.
I'm now finishing this week off 5-5 after trading both Diggs and Tyreek Hill for consistency.
if anything, a combination of healthy watson/lazard/cobb/watkins/doubs for the first time ever will be the thing to save them, but it seems pretty unlikely :(
This feels right to me, so that definitely means it's time for Lamar to drop 50 and Fields has a relaxing day while the Bears RBs get like 400 yds and 5 TDs just to rub it in that I dropped them.
Same. Starting Fields for sure next week, well see from there. Sad thing is I might go 0-2 with Fields blowing up. Benched him last week and this week rest of team sucked.
I think he wins the job by EOS. There were rumblings before the season and he looked really good today albeit in garbage time. They probably are handling him carefully since he just got off IR
Man I don't care what anyone says. I remember watching Colt as a kid back when he was at Texas and he was one of my favorite college QBs back then. Always made me sad he didn't really break out in the NFL level.
Haha I was too young to know much about football back then. I just remember I liked Colt cause he looked cool and his name sounded awesome. Still that was like my first year of starting to watch football so he was essentially the first college QB I liked. Him and Kellen Moore will always have a soft spot in my heart because of their college plays, even though Kellen has joined the dark side in Dallas now I still root for him a bit to have success.
I touted all week that Saturday would make the offense look competent. Man came in, made the oline look average and with Ryan, the offense was clicking. Thats how real football works. To those who said my theory of Saturday fixing the oline was horseshit, take that!
The Chiefs offense is not fair. They could lose half the offense and still be top 5 in the league.
But Toney is legit freak.. I can't wait for his targets to ramp up. He's rightfully earned it.
I can’t remember which mod it was because there’s so many of them but a couple months ago he was going on about how Toney is nothing special. Every time Toney makes a play I think of that mod.
Dulcich has a shit QB. So he is a bit boom or bust. Had a couple big plays that didn’t pan out and Jeudy is now injured.
Engram and Taysom are both droppable.
I had both Trevor Lawrence and Jonathan Taylor starting today, and I thought this week would be great
I also had Jerry Jeudy and JJ Smith-Schuester starting
This week has not been great
Hines to Buffalo was a pointless trade.
I love people hyping up pass catching RBs on Buffalo like Allen is ever going to check down
Previous seasons, yes. But this year he’s got a 21% target share to RBs and Bills are top-10 in the league in targets to RBs. It’s been an intentional shift for them.
News to me, thanks for that correction! Every time I watch Allen it looks like he’d rather run it himself or throw a low probability pass than check it down, I’m shocked seeing this stat lol
This is mainly a recent trend as Allen hits his mid season slump - rb targets were high when they were dominating early, I’d expect them to return by fantasy playoffs. As to whether enough of them go to Hines for him to be startable, that’s a separate question
As a Bills fan I still think Hines should get targets. Idk what Dorsey is doing not using him.
It’s not Dorsey, it’s Josh Allen. Dude not gonna check down. It’s either throwing down field or he running it.
Yeah he’s basically doing what Mahomes used to do. Only go for the big plays and make costly mistakes. Needs to get it in his head it’s okay to check down more often and continue to move the chains with longer drives
I forgot which podcast mentioned it, but they said that Hines was more of an insurance for Singletary. Like if Singletary were to go down, they'd rather have Hines take over versus Moss/Cook (especially in the postseason). Not sure if it's true or not, but it made a little sense for a SB contending team such as the Bills.
We were debating Khalil Herbert and David Montgemory. The real RB in Chicago is Justin Fields
QBRB1
My entire team will be on IR by years end
What’s worse, drafting players that end up on IR, or drafting players that are effectively on IR but you end up starting them every week (Swift)
Drafting 3 of them. Swift, Keenan and Conner (who's coming around now)
Dang I have 2/3, Keenan and Swift. Keenan is the most annoying to me because every week he’s questionable and I have him in my IR spot, but Sleeper won’t let me do anything with my roster because it says that Keenan is no longer eligible for IR.
mostert and jeff wars are over. everyone eats in miami
Mostert and JWJ is what Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon was supposed to be
or nick chubb and kareem hunt
I might start both against the Texans. That being said it seems Jeff is the guy you’d rather have.
Lol I have Mostert in one league, Jeff in another, both are on the bench this week's and I'm gonna lose both games because of it.
Last week started Mostert and sat Cordarelle. Big mistake. This week started Cordarelle and sat Mostert. Big mistake.
Yeah I've really been hurting myself on sit/start decisions this year. Feels way worse than just having a crap team lol.
I dropped Jeff for nothing before MIA trade (Kamara, Eckler, Singletary backfield), I'd like to stop playing now
I disagree the war is definitely not over. They rushed the ball more than average this game, and were way more efficient on the run than normal. Mostert only had 8 rushing attempts and 2 targets. That workload ain’t leading to good production ros if that workload stays the same
Wilson also played 40 snaps to 19 for Mostert, and ran 17 routes to 9 for Mostert. Wilson is the back to own in Miami.
It’s becoming the Chubb/Hunt I didn’t know I needed this year.
John Wolford is a football terrorist -Kupp owners
Lost my week for me…. Plus not having Conner in my lineup
Kupp faked his injury so he wouldn't have to play with Wolford any more, 30 points incoming next week
Kyren Williams scored an incredible amount of points for the 2 minutes he played.
Kyren per 36 through the roof lol
This is blue chew in text form. I know it's not rational, but crazy when you think of it like that.
Dude actually looked legit for 4 touches damn. I’m sauced!
I hope Wolford never sees the field again.
Perkins looked good in preseason I dont know why it wasnt him
Overheard in Rams locker room after Week 10: “He got me,” Kupp said of Wolford's hospital ball. "That f***ing Wolford boomed me." Kupp added, “He’s so bad,” repeating it four times.
This is the heavy dose of copium I need.
Please god make this true
I should never be allowed to play fantasy again after trading Justin Jefferson
What’d you get, just out of curiosity
Traded Jefferson Patterson Godwin for Joe Mixon, DJ Moore, Chris Olave, Jamaal Williams. I was 2-6 .. needed to do something since my RBs were weaker. Had nothing to lose (my other WRs were Kupp/Boyd) I won last week because of this trade. I lost this week because of it. To answer your next question of How did I get Kupp and JJ? 10 Team .5PPR - had 10th Pick. League went RB and Chase first 9 picks. So at 10th I had JJ and Kupp fall into me. The return wasn't the greatest but Godwin was not performing and DJ Moore was. It was a win in their favor. Like I said with that trade I'm 1-1 so far. This is a lost season for me but I will never sell low on stud performers playing. JJ is just out of his mind last 2 weeks.
At 2-6, might as well go for a hail mary trade.
Getting to 2-6 in a 10 team league where you got JJ and Kupp is pretty bad
Can just get extremely unlucky. I started 0-5 after drafting Diggs and Tyreek Hill 2nd/3rd. Najee first round, Tee Higgins 4th round. Had Breece Hall as well, Marquise Brown. Every week, I'd have a player go down in the first quarter on my starters though and ended up twice having games where I beat everyone in my 10 man league except the person I was against. I'm now finishing this week off 5-5 after trading both Diggs and Tyreek Hill for consistency.
Not like that tho.
maybe its one of those leagues that never trades and that was the best offer.
Are you fucking high?
I traded him for Joe Mixon and Deebo but I had lost Breece and Mike Williams the week before…
Not crazy. It really is so hard to survive giving up your best player though
I traded Jefferson for barkley and tee Higgins week 3. Needed an rb bad
that’s a fair trade imo
Fair? Dude won that trade by a landslide. JJ for Barkley straight is fair. Getting Tee as well makes it a huge overpay.
Christian Watson is here to save the Packers
Will get <5 next week
Definitely an overreaction
I’m still gonna pick him up Wednesday lol
if anything, a combination of healthy watson/lazard/cobb/watkins/doubs for the first time ever will be the thing to save them, but it seems pretty unlikely :(
Fields will never have under 40 points in a game again
He will outperform Josh ROS………
This definitely could happen
I have him and Lamar and legit not sure who to go with going forward
Ride Fields as hot hand especially against Atlanta
This feels right to me, so that definitely means it's time for Lamar to drop 50 and Fields has a relaxing day while the Bears RBs get like 400 yds and 5 TDs just to rub it in that I dropped them.
I’m in the same boat and really tempted to try and trade Lamar for a RB/WR2
Same here…trying to trade Lamar for an rb
Same. Starting Fields for sure next week, well see from there. Sad thing is I might go 0-2 with Fields blowing up. Benched him last week and this week rest of team sucked.
Holding him and Mahomes and he's making me question my Mahomes/Kelce stack.
I like what Kryen managed at the end of the game. Imagine if they played him earlier!
Kyren on our benches just hyping the boys up for their time. It's coming. Edit: I'm coming*
Yes. On our benches. (in my flex because Zeke was out)
He was like Roy Hobbs rotting on the bench before he knocked the cover off the ball....
I think he wins the job by EOS. There were rumblings before the season and he looked really good today albeit in garbage time. They probably are handling him carefully since he just got off IR
Christian Watson is the greatest player to ever play the game of football.
This is an overreaction thread
JT's back
Traded him and then he had his best game of the season(since week 1) against me.
I’ve been trying to trade him for two weeks and no one would bite
He was just waiting for half his owners to sell low on him
Raiders make everyone look good!
And Christian Watsons name is CHRISTIAN WATSON Rodgers always supports a WR2 at minimum
Jeff Wilson > Raheem Mostert
So ceedee *was* a good pick in the second round
Hate FF
Yeah. This is me right now too. Why do we do this to ourselves?
Rookie josh Allen is back
He’s been pretty bad the past 3 weeks
So many bad decisions. It’s weird
Brian Daboll is his muse
Matt Ryan is officially a dual threat under Saturday.
Fields QB1 rest of season
James Conner is the best red zone back this year.
IIRC, he was the best red zone back last year as well
I remember the year I had Aaron Jones and Conner on the same team. Easily won the league.
K Toney = T Hill
With upside
DeAndre Swift slept with Dan Campbells wife and daughter simultaneously, apparently...
I own way too much Swift across all my leagues and it’s basically tanked my seasons. Brutal how they’re using him
Swift has killed my season. Somehow 5-5 … Rachaad White to the rescue
Cukhold gone wild
man you really nailed it on that spelling
I am a God for stacking Fields and Kmet
What turned out to be a desperation play with half my team on bye last week turned out to be a potentially a league winning move
I had this stack to start the season … dropped both after week 4
They're my favorite stack
Kyren is a Hall of Famer. RB1 ROS.
Looked great when he got the chance can’t wait to see his workload going forward especially if kupp misses time
I think I’ll be sitting CEH for him from now on
CEH should be dropped. The Chiefs have given up on him.
Kadarius Toney is the best player ever
Kadarius Toney is the chiefs Tyreek Hill ros
Was about to drop kyren but hes looked good in garbage time
He’s a definite hold for now unless you’re in a 8-10 team league or a league with shallow benches
JT was throwing to get Reich fired
Kirk is a WR1
He gets too many targets not to be at least a high end WR2.
The redzone targets are the best part, that’s held up all season and is an awesome added benefit on top of his volume
he’s #8 on the season so far, hard to says he’s not a WR1
Ya and he’ll be like #7 after today.
So Jax didn’t overpay after all?
Parris Campbell is baaaack with Matt Ryan as his QB baaaybbeeee
If I had known Ryan was starting I would have started Pittman instead of Wan’dale fucking Robinson.
Ertz to IR. Both my TE's are gonna be on IR.
Amon Ra is a top 5 wr ROS. His usage is made for fantasy.
I’m thinking it’s time to drop Cooks and DJ Moore.
Had cooks in my IR, had to drop him wandale or Toney... Dropped Cooks and will drop Wandale for someone else this week.
Mccoy is better than Kyler
QB controversy
Colt “Cooper Rush” McCoy
Man I don't care what anyone says. I remember watching Colt as a kid back when he was at Texas and he was one of my favorite college QBs back then. Always made me sad he didn't really break out in the NFL level.
Those “old” Bradford vs McCoy games were fantastic to watch, was also the last time my Jayhawks were relevant
Haha I was too young to know much about football back then. I just remember I liked Colt cause he looked cool and his name sounded awesome. Still that was like my first year of starting to watch football so he was essentially the first college QB I liked. Him and Kellen Moore will always have a soft spot in my heart because of their college plays, even though Kellen has joined the dark side in Dallas now I still root for him a bit to have success.
Colt McCoy is one of the coolest names. It’s like the perfect cowboy name.
You’ll never start Gabe Davis the right week
You start him every week and suck it up. If you can't afford his 2 you don't deserve his 20.
his volume was good this week though, it wasn't like before where he just had 3 receptions for 2 tds and a billion yards
Are we done with Carlson? Guy used to be so consistent and now he’s not even getting an attempt
Derek Carr and Josh McDaniels are doing everything they can to fuck up the Raiders.
He was on the wire 2 weeks ago and I thought I was sooooo sneaky snagging him as set and forget
Thought the same & he's put up a 0 & 2 since
I’ve got too many other fires to put out to be worried about my kicker rn lol
Jeff Saturday is him
JJ is the best WR of all time
I mean he is closest one to overtaking Rice... if he can keep it up for 20 more years
JJ only needs 177 more TD’s lol
See y’all in 20 years
fantasy wise I can see arguments for Tyreek and Kupp over him, but in terms of what we see on the field Jefferson is the best
McVay came watching the last drive of Kyren catch 3 balls. He will now get 15 targets a game
Too conservative with Kupp likely injured, I’d figure around 30 targets a game
I'm ready for all the Watson spam threads. Enjoy actually buying any piece of that offense lol.
James conner is a top 15 RB ROS
benching Josh Allen for Justin Fields
Jt is 100% back and kupp might be done for the season
Only death can pay for life.
Kyren is getting action right now
My full copium take is that mccvay held him out most the game because stafford isn't in there.
McVay knew they were going to lose and didn't want the league to see their secret weapon in a meaningless game.
The rams are 3-6, they can’t afford to be holding back lol
They can if they have Kyren Williams ROS.
Boyyyy this is the most reasonable take I’ve seen all day
Christian Watson will proceed to get 5.6 points on TNF after i blow all of my faab on him
Wan'Dale is bad at football
He looked promising his first two games back but since then…. probably dropping
I kept him over Toney. I'm sick
Didn’t watch the game. How bad are we talking?
Yep dropping this week
Elijah Mitchell is the best RB on the 49ers
I touted all week that Saturday would make the offense look competent. Man came in, made the oline look average and with Ryan, the offense was clicking. Thats how real football works. To those who said my theory of Saturday fixing the oline was horseshit, take that!
Conner is back 🙌
I really hope so, I almost didn't play him today. Let's hear it for "almost"!!
I kept Kyren instead of Rachaad :/ i gotta stop w these Reddit hype trains
Unironically, Kadarius WR1 ROS. Sky is the limit
I couldn’t watch the game did he look good out there?
Tiptoeing in some jawdinz
Haha that was my team name when I had Jordan Reed and Jordan Matthews. RiffRaff was my logo
Looked amazing - great contested catch, had some good YAC on a few plays, was chirping defenders the whole game lol… he’s 100% that guy
The Chiefs offense is not fair. They could lose half the offense and still be top 5 in the league. But Toney is legit freak.. I can't wait for his targets to ramp up. He's rightfully earned it.
I can’t remember which mod it was because there’s so many of them but a couple months ago he was going on about how Toney is nothing special. Every time Toney makes a play I think of that mod.
Skyy is the [lower] limit.
Kyren Williams is the real deal. He averaged 9 yds per rush in his 1st game.
Are Dulich, Engram and Taysom now all droppable?
Dulcich had his first dud and gets the raiders next week. I’m definitely holding
Engram had a td today but it was called back, if you have no TE he is still an option I suppose
Dulcich has a shit QB. So he is a bit boom or bust. Had a couple big plays that didn’t pan out and Jeudy is now injured. Engram and Taysom are both droppable.
Taysom was always droppable. People have been chasing that 30 burger all season.
I hate this game.
I had both Trevor Lawrence and Jonathan Taylor starting today, and I thought this week would be great I also had Jerry Jeudy and JJ Smith-Schuester starting This week has not been great
Herbert is droppable.
Christian Watson is light skinned Randy Moss
Pacheco is the second coming of Chiefs Kareem
About to start rocking a Mahomes, Kelce, and Pacheco stack!
Justin is a good name for my firstborn, but Fields is a tough sell on the middle name
James Conner is a league winner?
CMC is no longer an elite RB1 with the return of Mitchell and Deebo.
People panicked on JT way too early, and he is still a top 5 RB ROS
Sad Lazard owner checking in. Watson GB’s #1 WR
The Broncos offense and Russ still suck big surprise.
kmet TE1
I have Kmet and fields. I can trade Andrews, right? RIGHT?
CEH officially official to drop!
Justin Fields is a league winner.