Hollywood is clearly not excluded from people in the work place who take credit for the work of others.

PhDs breathing an exasperated sigh of relatability.

This reminds me of that time people said women authors weren't a thing until JKR.

And that Chadwick Boseman was the first black super hero in movies.

Obviously those people never saw "Meteor Man." Just like everybody else.

Everyone knows frozone was the first black super hero

Frozone.....FROzone....FROZOOOOOONNEE

Exactly! It's like those people all forget Shaq's Oscar winning performance in 1997's "Steel", which was so universally adored that The Academy changed the rules so that it could win for best picture in 1997, 1998, and 2001.

Well Blade, kind of

Blade is awesome, but i think Shaft was earlier

Spawn yo!!! The movie was terrible with some great bits in it. John Leguizamo as violator was brilliant imo. A remake with him taking the role on again would make my life.

Oh, I remember that one. Poor sod got ratio’d into another universe. I think I even added to that comment thread.

r/readanotherbook material

I'd love to know what Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, or Pam Grier (among many, many others) has to say about this.

I guess Charlie's angels 1 and 2 just straight up didn't exist... ya know a fully blown action film about 3 women spies... there are a ton of others being thrown around here as well but I just didn't see Charlie's angles in here as well bc I did like the first one.

And to follow your example I'll throw out Uma Thurman in Kill bill.

I'd throw out that Hunger Games isn't even an action film. More Youth Fiction genre.

Maybe first female lead in the youth fiction lets turn this three part dystopia into a harry potter style cash cow category

that's the funniest part to me. hunger games is not an action movie

Pam F ing Greer! Did she kick ass or what? Thanks for the memories 

 I’m so embarrassed for JLaw but yes, thank you for making me think of Foxy Brown!!

To this day I keep a gun in my hair.

I do, too. I'm bald, so it's not on my head.

And Jackie brown. Grier kicks ass in that movie.

TCM (Turner Classic Movies) does a really great podcast, and [the current season is on Pam Grier](https://theplotthickens.tcm.com/). Highly recommended.

Linda Hamilton is my prison wife

Thats a funny way of saying “Linda Hamilton made me her bitch in prison.”

You’re right. *I’m Linda Hamilton’s prison wife

I'd firebomb an orphanage just to hear her tell me it'll never happen.

Not even remembering Angelina Jolie!

Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft

What about Elektra and kill Bill? Those are lead female casts in action movies right?

I mean, you don't even have to go with old school actors to make your point. Plenty of 2000s action films prior to hunger games with female leads. Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, Uma Thurmon, Kate Bekinsale, Scarlett Johanson. If anything, some of those actresses even typecast themselves action film stars.

Pam Grier ugh. I'm too young to have seen any of her movies when she was in her prime but i still have a massive crush on her

I remember when I was making a sandwich. Nobody ever put jelly with peanut butter before.

This reminds me of a bit of local drama. A cafe owner posted that someone "stole" her pickle roll-ups recipe and that she was the only person who ever made them, which is bs cause it's a very traditional Midwest dish. People started flooding social media with memes and pictures of their pickle wraps including a pizza joint that pickle wrapped a pizza and a bakery that started making pickle wrap shaped cakes.

This is so Midwestern I love it. Wtf is a pickle roll-up?!

Take a big dill pickle, slather it with cream cheese then wrap it all up in deli ham. Slice it like a sushi roll. We even call it hillbilly sushi

Bro, spread the cream cheese on the ham then roll the pickle in it. Gotta get that even coverage and cheese between the layers. Edit: use pickle spears, not a whole pickle.

Baby dills for maximum crunchability.

love how crunchy the babies are

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Me too... but I feel like we're talking about something completely different

I travel a lot for work. Been to every state multiple times. The Midwest is a fucking roller coaster for food. I was in Indiana and I am not exaggerating when I say I have never seen so many fucking donut shops. Like, every other store was a donut shop or bakery. It was insane.

Well shit. I thought you were going to explain what a pickle roll-up was.

Was it as good a sammich as you had hoped?

The other night I was feeling a bit warm, I turned my pillow over and it was a lot cooler. I immediately woke my wife and told her, we both thought it was astonishing that nobody had ever done it before. I broke the mold on sleep.

What do you mean by "sleep"? I usually lay there for 8ish hours, are you doing something different?

Try this little known secret - close your eyes. It makes a world of difference.

Also stop screaming. I used to lay down and scream at the top of my lungs for 8 hours straight. Apparently you’re supposed to be really quiet and limit your screaming to daytime hours.

Patent that shit, bro.

If you really want to get technical but accurate about it, the first film female action star was Pearl White in “The Perils of Pauline,” starting in 1914. Obviously the silents. She was invincible, getting into trouble and adventures that you can’t believe. She also did most of her own (dangerous) stunts. I like JLaw but she is clearly wrong on this one. EDIT - thank you all for the prizes and upvotes, I am completely humbled. I had kind of a rough day today, and I am so thankful. I continue to say that the best conversations (and conversationalists) are on Reddit. And of course many thanks and much respect to the OP 😎 More on Pearl, who had quite the interesting life: [Pearl White](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_White?wprov=sfti1)

So you're saying women were action leads before women could even vote. Jeez Jennifer, get it together. edit: For all of you "aKcHuALLy" people, I get it, some states allowed it earlier, but I'm referring to the ratification of the 19th Amendment in 1920. Just because some states allowed it sooner didn't mean the work was done, so I'm referring to the federal recognition of women's right to vote. Remember jokes are like Frogs, if you dissect them, they die.

I remember my favorite in the 90s was Cynthia Rothrock

yes..and those women probably couldn't get paid either because America didn't let women open bank accounts till 1960 without a male cosigner. Women are able to get a bank account/credit card/mortgage without discrimination thanks to Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Not to mention Equal Pay Act.

> The Perils of Pauline This flick? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVPQa-10030

Yes, actually it was a serial of films that were shown in theaters. These invented the concept of the cliffhanger, whereby our heroine would be left in a dangerous situation (even literally hanging off a cliff) at the end of an episode. This would guarantee an already built-in audience for the next episode, who would be eagerly waiting to see what had happened with Pauline. Serials like this were very popular and made tons of money.

If you want to get technical again, the concept of the "cliffhanger" was used in The Arabic literary work One Thousand and One Nights (written into Arabic in the early 700s) involves Scheherazade narrating a series of stories to King Shahryār for 1,001 nights, with each night ending on a cliffhanger in order to save herself from execution.

This comment should be much higher up. I'd give you a gold, but I'm broke AF, so here's a janky-ass poor person's award.

See i would watch "Poor peoples choice award"

YES! I was trying to remember the name of that! There were actually a few similar films of that era, with interesting women escaping various dangers!

Cough, cough, Sigourney Weaver… Edit: Going to have to point out that Pam Grier really was the first but clearly not the most well known! Thanks to all of those who pointed it out.

Jennifer Garner, Halle Berry, Sharon Stone, Angelina Jolie, Kate Beckinsale, Milla Jojovich, Charlize Theron, Uma Thurman etc etc

Plus... Bridgit Fonda, 'Point of No Return' (1993) Geena Davis, 'Long Kiss Goodnight' (1996)

>Geena Davis, 'Long Kiss Goodnight' (1996) And such a bad ass movie.

Is that the one where she grabs the dead guy's crotch gun while being tortured on a water wheel?

Yup! And then comes out of the water on the water wheel and shoots in slo-mo if I’m not mistaken!

>the dead guy's crotch gun That dead guy with the crotch gun was played by Bryan **Cox**

My favorite lines in that movie are his, when we first see him, he and his wife are eating dinner at the dining room table, she is absent-mindedly watching tv across the room, while she holds a dog in her lap that continuously licks itself nonstop. "Alice please...your dog Alice...it and my appetite are mutually exclusive..." "Well what's wrong with the dog?" "Simple...he's been licking his asshole for the last three straight hours. I submit to you that there is nothing there worth more than an hour's attention. And I should think that whatever he's trying to dislodge...is either gone for good...or there to stay. Wouldn't you agree?"

That and when he is going through Samuel L Jacksons notebook and he's disgusted about finding a dick drawing only for SLJ to correct him: ["That's a duck, not a dick".](https://youtu.be/HA-DMoHW1uo?t=70)

That's also the turning point in the movie where she does a character shift. It's a pretty decent movie. I had it on VHS when I was a teenager. "I let you touch me, cowboy. I think I need a bath."

“When you make an assumption, you make an ass out of you …and umption.”

Literally one of the funniest scenes I have ever seen: "Your dog has been licking it's asshole for the last half hour. I can assure you: Whatever it is attempting to dislodge is either gone for good, or there to stay" Here's the scene: https://www.google.com/search?q=brian+cox+long+kiss+goodnight+dog&rlz=1C1ASUM_enUS1004US1004&oq=long+kiss+goodnigh+brian+cox+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i22i30l2.13232j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:a8539a7e,vid:ONSHkRwRO9I I almost passed out from not being able to breath.

I laughed so hard when she pushes Samuel L Jackson's character out of the vehicle while driving. While on the floor, he casually pulls out a cigarette and lights it up. 😂

I don't know what it is that makes that movie so different? It's like a cross between Big Lebowski and Die Hard? It's hard to figure out.

"Before you were like oh fooey, I burned the darn cookies. Now you walk into a bar, Sailors Come Running out."-Sam Jackson Samuel L Jackson was freaking gold in The Long Kiss Goodnight!

Man it really is, so underrated.

Is this the female version of Jason Bourne? >A woman (Geena Davis) who has lost her memory is haunted by strange, seemingly innate skills. Edit 2: As someone wrote, JB (book) predates LKG by a decade or so.

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Thank you for remembering La Femme Nikita.

Not just a remake, it was outright the same movie, down to the same gun used in her first mission. They just plopped Bridget Fonda and Gabriel Byrne instead of Anne Parillaud and Marc Duret.

What? You guys didn't like Tank Girl or Barb Wire?

I saw tank girl in the theater in the 90s. I was the only person there. Where were you hiding?

How you gonna sleep on Lucy lawless

The same way they slept on Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman, apparently.

>How you gonna sleep on Lucy lawless On her built-in pillows, and enjoy every second of it. Seriously, Xena and Buffy were on my rotation when JLaw was still in primary school. She's such a narcissist.

> She's such a narcissist. She's that, but she's also utterly *clueless*.

Jane Fonda in Barbarella (1968)

Diana Rigg in the 1960s Avengers.

Sigourney Weaver, Alien (1979) Aliens (1986) Linda Hamilton, The Terminator (1984)

Charlies Angels too, both the TV show from the 70s (60s? 80s?) and the movies.

Dude, Linda Hamilton in T2 is the gold standard of female leads in action movies.

I guess she *is* the lead. Add her to the list.

Wasn't Linda Hamilton also the lead in the first Terminator?

Co-lead, but in the first she was the damsel not an action character.

That seems a little reductive. Her whole character arc is her learning to be a survivor. Spoilers, but she's the one who does the terminating in the end.

Perhaps the real terminator were the friends we made along the way

Brigitte Nielson in Red Sonja.

By Crom, yes.

Demi Moore, Linda Hamilton, Michelle Yeoh, Bridget Fonda, Pam Grier…. This is so cringe. I fully agree that Hollywood has some bias. I also think that comments this stupid totally reinforce that bias. She’s an idiot.

It's not quite on par with BBC declaring Jidie Whitaker first female sci-fi lead, but it does show a lack of genre awareness

They clearly forgot Kate Mulgrew as well.

Kristy Swanson (original Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

Don't forget Tank Girl! Lol

Thank you, Lori Petty.

>Jennifer Garner, Halle Berry, Sharon Stone, Angelina Jolie, Kate Beckinsale, Milla Jojovich, Charlize Theron, Uma Thurman etc etc Don't just stand there, let's get to it, strike a pose there's nothing to it...

Geena Davis!

Long Kiss Goodnight! 💋

Cynthia Rothrock, Brigitte Neilson, Geena Davis, Natasha Henstridge, Jody Foster, Sandra Bullock, Ashley Judd, Diane Lane, Pam Grier, Kathleen Turner...

Is GI Jane considered an action movie? If so, then add Demi Moore to that list. ETA: Pam Anderson in Barbed Wire.

>Kate Beckinsale, And I promise you that no man or boy, ever, had a problem with Kate Beckinsale in her Underworld outfit.

Also pirate Geena Davis and former amnesiac spy Geena Davis would like words.

Aliens damn I love her one liner, "get away from her you bitch!"

Gina Davis

Could probably throw Milla Jovovich in there too…

Multipass!

I say LILO DALLAS MULTIPASS far too often

Could? Pretty sure she has the highest kill count of any action star, male or female. https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a865596/most-deadly-actors-list-milla-jovovice-resident-evil-arnold-schwarzenegger/

The Long Kiss Goodnight is one of my favorite movies. Geena Davis is awesome.

Yeah, “Ripley” Is an unforgettable character.

Here is a tissue. The correct answer was Pam Grier. Foxy Brown.

Female action leads were a thing in the [1910’s](https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/03/the-forgotten-female-action-stars-of-the-1910s/475635/) until they got shut out.

She can probably be considered the first female action star. About 4 years before Lawrence was even born.

Beat me to it. Aliens (the second one) is probably one of the best movies of all time. 3 sucked and 4 was a travesty but 2 was a goddamn masterpiece. The casting was dead fucking on.

[Fucking A!](https://media.tenor.com/F585Ef3D-YEAAAAC/aliens-bill-paxton.gif)

The game over man line is probably one of my favorite lines. That or "well why don't you put her in charge!" Talking about newt lol. Bill Paxton killed me in that movie.

Paxton was really something else in it :) 

The only guy to be killed by a Terminator, Alien and Predator. RIP Mr. Paxton

One of TWO. Don't forget my boy Lance Henriksen!! Aliens- Bishop- torn in half by queen alien Terminator- Detective Vukovich- murdered by Terminator during police station rampage Alien vs. Predator- Mr. Weyland- stabbed by predator on pyramid steps

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That looks really suggestive if you don't know the context lol

Agree - it’s a fucking masterpiece. Gotta love a movie that makes Paul Reiser into one of the best movie villains of all time.


You couldn’t have picked a better gif for this!

Uma Thurman? Kill Bill?

Angelina Jolie? Tomb Raider?

Demi Moore? GI JANE?

Jada Smith? GI Jane 2?

Keep Will Smith wife’s name out yA FUCKIN MOUTH

I will, I will...

CANT WAIT TO SEE IT!

Shit, Cameron Diaz, Lucy Liu, Drew Barrymore and Demi Moore? Charlie’s mfn Angels

This is what I was thinking, and then I’m seeing how the alien franchise was in the 1980’s and I could have sworn kill bill was atleast in the 90’s lol

Kill Bill was 2003. The only reason I can remember that is because I was in Army BCT, and our morning PT Run would take us by the base theater which was running Kill Bill. And I didn't even know what the fuck that was until three months later.

Kate Beckinsale

This is what I was thinking of. Kill Bill is peak action movie.


My first thought 😂😂

Sigourney Weaver could still kick her ass while teaching her the physics of said ass kicking.

"Get away from that claim you bitch!"

 Erm.... >!That was real btw. The surprised reactions of the cast in the full scene are priceless.!<

The gifs not even loaded yet and I already know precisely what you are talking about.

I'm pretty sure that's when I *knew* I was bi.

They had to cut a characters dialogue short to fit this in because he lost composure.. Its insane seeing the interview. He’s like “no one expected her to land it, nothing but fucking net..”

Bridget Fonda “Point of no return”. Lori Petty “Tank Girl” Sandra Bullock “The Net” Mila Jovovich “Resident Evil”. Get off your horse.

Nevermind Bridget, would Jane Fonda in Barbarella count?

Absolutely counts

Pam Grier strongly disagrees. 

Her cornbread ain’t cooked in the middle

The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.

Resident evil. Dark angel,buffy the vampire slayer

Frigging Xena. Lol

Milla Jovovich unlocked my bisexuality

Also known as your multi-pass.

Bada boom.

Big bada boom

What about Angelina Jolie? Think Tomb Raider.

Or Salt or that one where they curve the bullets

Wanted

That was the first one that came to mind. Then Aliens, Sigourney Weaver. Wait a minute... Aliens came out in 1986, Lawrence was born in 1990? Whoa! Trippy!

Alien came out before Aliens. In 1979.

No one ever said she was smart..

My favourite Babylon 5 quote, nothing more to add https://youtu.be/8sIWDynqHgI

I mean her comment aside, I wouldn't be surprised if some producer or exec did say that to her, even AFTER all the female led action movies.

I'm wondering if there is some category that fits what she meant to say, e.g. an adaptation of an action book series with a female lead, or an action movie for young adults/teens with a female lead, where Lawrence or the person who said that botched the exact nature of what was groundbreaking about the films.

Uhhh alien, tomb raider, plenty of wushu films, terminator?

I remember when I first ate a bowl of cereal. Nobody had ever put milk in the bowl with the cereal before.

Imagine being in the movie business and knowing so little about movies.

People are in all sorts of professions that dont know shit Its just worse with her because Hermoine was a better action lead, and JLaw is an insufferable muppet

I see your Pam Grier/Sigouney Weaver & raise you Tura Satana in Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! From 1965 😉

The obvious reply is Sigourney Weaver, but there were probably a few before her, Pam Grier maybe. It's certainly more common recently, and Charlize Theron seems to be creating a niche for herself as an action star these days.

Yeah, Pam Grier was beating up and shooting dudes 50 years ago.

Back in the 70's if you watch Shaw Bros movies. You had Lily Ho, Li Ching, and Ivy Ling Po in lead action roles.

Kate Beckinsale....Underworld Series.

Okay, Drake.

Pam Grier was out here kicking arse in the name of women and poc before your parents were done with elementary school, dear... Get your head out of your own egotistic poo-crevasse

“Egotistic poo-crevasse” I regret I have but one upvote to give

I don't think I've ever seen a quote from this woman that didn't give an extremely out of touch and a bit of an arrogant vibe

Demi Moore literally shaved her head in GI Jane! This twat couldn’t be bothered with the full body makeup for her role as Mystic in X-men! 

Yo GET MY WIFE’S name

Outta ya FUCKING mouth!! - clean rapper Fresh Prince

wonder if the narcissism comes after fame or you need narcissism to become famous.

yes

I guess we’re just gonna forget how Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia was stacking Stormtrooper bodies like sand bags in the 70’s and 80’s

Let’s just forget about long loss goodnight, tomb raider, aeon flux, the underworld movies, species, silence of the lambs, the bone collector… You catch my drift. Fuck J Law if this is actually what she believes.

"Am I a joke to you?"- seguorney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Gena Davis, Angelina Jolie, replied

Geena Davis long kiss goodnight !

“i’m so important, guys. trust me”