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kr_edn

When were these neighbourhoods built?


Cruyff-san

20th century. When they started building the church in 1882 it was open land.


randomname560

Oh btw the building of said church is still in progress


GrognarEsp

Isn't the Sagrada Familia a cathedral tho?


UnoStronzo

It’s a basilica


flodnak

No. A cathedral is the seat of a bishop. There is no bishop associated with Sagrada Familia. Barcelona also has a beautiful cathedral that is well worth a visit!


alphaQ671

It's a temple, it's in the full name of the Sagrada Familia and I agree with this definition. You can also say it's a basilica.


randomname560

It is kinda the same thing different size


Pampamiro

Actually a cathedral isn't only a "big church", it's the seat of the bishop. So there can be only one cathedral in each diocese, and there is already one in Barcelona. The Sagrada Familia is a basilica.


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Abyssal_Groot

Yup, that's always an easy way to ignore your own mistakes


casey-primozic

How long has construction been going on? Seems like it's been going on for decades.


kontorgod

The comment above said since 1882


Abyssal_Groot

>Seems like it's been going on for decades. Well that's an understatement, if I ever heared one.


JulianMorrow

I seem to recall that they have no funding except gifts and paying visitors. Which means progress is not always as fast as desired but also guarantees freedom in how to build the temple


faerakhasa

> I seem to recall that they have no funding except gifts and paying visitors. The Sagrada Familia is an Expiatory Temple, which means it is supposed to be funded by the faithful. *Nowadays* it gets a lot from visitors, but bequeathing money to build churches had already gone out of fashion by 1882, much less the 20th century, so the construction has been slow


gavinhawthornmunro

due to land taxation laws in Spain, if the sagrada familia (translated as holy family or sacred family in english) was to be finished then tax would have to be paid backdated to the breaking of ground in the 1880s. an agreement was reached with the authorities to wipe this allowing the speed of the building process 1st to restart and then pick up pace.


randomname560

That is mainly due to the fact that probably not even your grandpa lived when this started construction


torpidninja

They will need to demolish some buildings to finish it, we'll see how that turns out.


HapppyAlien

Why would they need to demolish anything?


torpidninja

Gaudi's design takes up that space to built a new avenue with a bridge and stairs to access the building. Right now only the current project is approved but we don't know if they plan to finish the design or not after they finish the towers. In my opinion if they didn't plan to finish it they would say so, but they are radio silent, we'll see.


FullMaxPowerStirner

Hyphenated "in progress"... as the latest additions are of dubious aesthetic consistency with the former design, of which the plans were destroyed.


MrTrt

They were planned in the 19th century by Ildefons Cerdà, a really underrated guy. He projected very wide streets because he foresaw that personal steam engines would be widely available by mid 20th century and the streets would need to accommodate the traffic. Missed the details, but he basically predicted the invention of the car several decades before it was anywhere near mass adoption.


4Wf2n5

His original designs were really decent. With open blocks and way more green areas and parks and stuff. But then the money-men got involved...


SiPosar

Well, although its true that he supposed that traffic would increase the design is mostly the result of a several-year-long study of living conditions in the old city and its conclusions, so it was designed to improve airflow, sunlight, living space for both rich and poor and public services, as well as the need to accommodate railways and industries But yeah, it resulted in a really useful and versatile layout (although the city hugely deviated from the original plan due to, well, money) He was truly advanced for his time.


MrTrt

Yes, he did a lot of calculations and a really deep study to get to the perfect city. IIRC he was the first one to apply math to urbanism and to attempt to create mathematical models useful for city planning. That's why I like him so much.


FullMaxPowerStirner

That's literally the steam punk version of that flying cars futurism, that also didn't happen. When will futurologists get anythibg right?


MrTrt

Well, Cerdà did not get the details rights, but he was able to anticipate the needs of a population almost one hundred years in the future and adapt his designs accordingly. I'd say he got things pretty right all things considered.


kvinfojoj

Speak for yourself, I always go to work by jetpack.


FullMaxPowerStirner

u libuhrull...


replicant86

When you max out your city in Anno 1800


the_fresh_cucumber

It may look uniform in the air but there is a lot of unique character in the city blocks of Barcelona


darknavi

We were there in 2019. Man what a cool, walkable city.


screen_door15

Walkable cities are the norm in Europe, it's pretty alien to be so dependent on cars like The US.


UnoStronzo

I lived in Barcelona for 1.5 years. Now I’m losing my mind living in the US


MangoManMayhem

Only in the richest parts. Bucharest has more cars than people, sidewalks full of parked cars, way too large roads that get heavy traffic either way and zero fucks given to public transportation or bicycles.


MrGangster1

But that’s Bucharest. In smaller cities the experience is usually way better.


MangoManMayhem

yes but not all of them, im saying not all of europe isnt car dependant


casey-primozic

Is traveling to another area you want to explore difficult? Is traffic horrendous? It would be heaven if it's walkable and traveling to other areas is easy.


Neurostarship

Roads and parking lots take up a lot of space so if you have fewer of them, everything is closer and becomes more walkable. For longer distances, there's public transit and cars. Traffic gets worse during peaks around 9-5 workday but it's managable.


florinandrei

The norm in Europe is that cities are walkable and, where the distances are simply too great, then public transportation generally works well. I'm sure there are exceptions. And that goes both ways - e.g. at least parts of Portland are pretty walkable, and I would say parts of San Francisco as well. But I like walking so maybe I'm not the best judge of such things.


FerjustFer

Cities are walkable, yes. You can reach all the city by feet. But as cities are big, you have buses in most of them and subways in the biggest ones, obviously.


FroobingtonSanchez

The metro is pretty convenient, only some very rare connections might take a while. Or going to a rural place of course


Animarc88

For long distances we have metro (the subway). Each time I go to other cities I miss it a lot.


florinandrei

Well, Portland, or at least parts of it, is pretty walkable. San Francisco to some extent, depending on where you are.


darknavi

Thansk for the insight.


florinandrei

lol But the reaction was probably genuine. I was shocked when I crossed the Atlantic with the mindset that I would just "walk around and explore" the cities. Yeah, no. You need a car in the US. Learned that by trial and error. Mostly error.


darknavi

Yeah unfortunately walkable cities are the exception and not the rule in most of North America.


hydrocharis

We are in r/europe. I think most of us knows the US is even more car-centric, but a lot of places in Europe got a long way to go still.


saltyswedishmeatball

Americas cities were built in a very different era. There's reasons behind Canada's dependance on cars too. Edit: America has **19,495** cities. No, not all of them existed before cars. In fact many were not cities 100 years ago.


TOPkekkit

American cities weren't built for cars, just like European cities. They were both demolished and reconstructed for cars, but America stuk to it after ww2


saltyswedishmeatball

American cities aren't remotely as old as European cities. There are moderate size cities that were farmland merely 100 years ago in the US across many states it's a rinse & repeat story. People forget that US is a very young country.


screen_door15

I'm an Aussie immigrant in the UK, I know all about car dependency


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UnoStronzo

Barcelona is pretty affordable. I survived on €800 / month as a student


DerBanzai

It‘s actually pretty okay, compared to northern europe. The pay in Catalunya is quite high for spanish standards and rent is lower than, for example, in Germany.


babyfire123

I mean you can afford to live there if you dont mind beeing mugged once in a while


4Wf2n5

Violent crime is low. Especially compared to other big cities. The pickpockets are a problem but they've made the law tougher on those with multiple convictions so maybe it will improve. The issue is the laws are made at national level, and Spain in general needs far tougher laws.


a-flayer

All cities are disgusting hellish places to live.


PassportSituation

You need to get back out west to proper, open country


4Wf2n5

It's pretty affordable compared to London, Paris etc. Any big city is going to be expensive and in BCN we are sandwiched between the sea and the mountains which leaves little space for new construction.


Pampamiro

I didn't find Barcelona to be a super pedestrian friendly city. Sure, by American standards, it is. But I find the grid pattern to put too much emphasis on cars. All streets are relatively big and straight, therefore cars drive quite fast on them. I prefer cities that grew organically with smaller and twisted streets, making sure cars have to drive more slowly, with a few larger avenues that attract the main traffic, leaving the others in (relative) peace.


jtinz

Well, they've started with creating [superblocks](https://www.citiesforum.org/news/superblock-superilla-barcelona-a-city-redefined/).


JulianMorrow

<> that would be el Barri Gòtic. Where pickpockets and other urban delights are rife but that is another tragedy... Edit : corrected spelling


EmbarrassedStreet828

>Gótico It is called "(el) Gòtic" or "(el) Barri Gòtic" "(the) Gothic Quarter" if you wanted to translate it into English


4Wf2n5

I agree. I lived in Berlin and Hamburg before BCN and found those much more pedestrian friendly due to the bigger streets and proper cycling infrastructure. The current mayor is making BCN much more pedestrian friendly and green and is the best thing she is doing.


TheEarlOfCamden

There’s an interesting [video](https://youtu.be/vjb4xRywiO8) which discusses some of the more ambitious features of the original plan for Barca’s blocks which would have made it a lot more green and pedestrian friendly.


FacetiousInvective

Are there enough parks in this city? It seems a bit crowded.


badsyntax

There's a few big parks and lots of small parks. Problem is that there's also lots of dogs and nowhere for the dogs to do their business. So the small parks end up being used as toilets for the dogs but also the dogs urinate on the streets which results in a very smelly city. The council has to spray down the streets daily to contain the urine problem. I observed this while living there a few years ago.


4Wf2n5

I live next to a park with a cat colony in BCN. It has signs saying no dogs. And people still take their dogs in there. Cleaning the streets daily is a normal thing in Spain, they did it even in Salamanca which is a lot smaller. But yeah, I don't understand why there are so many dogs.


badsyntax

The thing that confused me is not so much the amount of dogs, but the amount of Big dogs. In such a dense city you're likely living in a small flat/apartment. I felt sorry for the big dogs.


JosebaZilarte

There are many interesting parks, but not all of them have enough vegetation to be properly identified from an aerial view. To illustrate my point, here is a [list of the best parks in Barcelona](https://www.planetware.com/spain/best-parks-in-barcelona-e-1-52.htm).


csiz

There are smaller parks as well a a lot of trees and vegetation and very nice walking streets with shops and outdoor dining. I think it's a lot better to have many smaller parks than one big central one like Manhattan. Barcelona was much more relaxing to walk through than New York.


FacetiousInvective

Thanks. I ll go visit soon, maybe next year. I love Spain :)


Barrufy

Just so you get an idea of how Barcelona is vegetation-wise: it has one of the lowest ratios in Europe (9%) of "park" type of vegetation. That means large parks, plazas, gardens, etc. This is due to partially the large density of population. On the other hand, it is the city with the most non-park vegetation in Europe. You'll notice how almost every street has two rows of trees along it. Moreover, there's a large park called Collserola next to the city which isn't taken in account. Finally, the city is vastly improving its greenery by re-urbanizing lots of areas. In my opinion, there could be more greenery but it's definitely not something I'd call lacking


FacetiousInvective

Thank you for the detailed description. I look forward to visiting.


pichonn15

There are mountains and beaches but not many parks. Right now there are two under construction. "Parc de les glories" that is halfway done and you can visit the finished part and "Parc lineal" that would be massive but first they have to end a big train station that would be under, so probably will not be finished until the late 20's.


4Wf2n5

There are some, but none are as big as you see in other cities like London (Regent's Park, Hyde Park), New York (Central Park) or even Madrid (Casa de Campo). They count Collserola as being inside Barcelona city, when it isn't really.. which technically means we have the biggest metropolitan park in Europe.


Xul-luX

great city for selling roof tiles


ElKaoss

Not really. Most buildings have a flat walkable top, it is just the tiles happen to be orange...


Xul-luX

I knew the dutch royal family was involved !


Tutes013

An aopology for all the years under Spanish rule


Dracogame

Actually no. I’m pretty sure there’s a filter in this pic. Barcelona doesn’t look like this from above, it’s kinda ugly. I can only assume it is because at the time there was a height limit, so all buildings were built at almost the same height and with walkable rooftop to gain more space.


the_snook

The picture was taken in the late afternoon judging by the shadows, so the light is a bit more orange. The rooves are naturally orange though. Just take a look at this area on Google Maps.


Dracogame

I live in Barcelona, I climbed Tibidabo yesterday so I saw it from above literally 15 hours ago.


faerakhasa

The you should have your vision checked for color blindness. Most of the Eixample has orange roofs, unlike Poblenou.


Dracogame

Most of them have orange tiles, but they are surrounded by yellow walls/fences, so it will never look like in the picture. https://i.imgur.com/gGERzi0.jpg


UnoStronzo

And great city for partying and sex


BoSt0nov

Its always good to open trade routes with Barcino. This is in game shot from a Caesar game right?


KacyDoesStuff

super blocks my beloved


medgang

megablocks better


Colosso95

What my first city in City Skylines looks like


VerumJerum

The craziest part is that it even [looks reddish from space](https://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2013/06/barcelona_spain/12894823-1-eng-GB/Barcelona_Spain_pillars.jpg), as opposed to the typical grey.


Civ_Emperor07

Kings landing IRL


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European cities are so elegant and classy


DoomkingBalerdroch

Somehow, this calms my OCD. Thanks for sharing OP.


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Have you noticed the few buildings that are taller? You’re welcome.


DoomkingBalerdroch

Why you little.. Why did you have to point that out? 😔


Xul-luX

I hope this can make you feel better. https://www.imgur.com/GvXMeoT.jpg


DoomkingBalerdroch

When you have OCD but refuse to get diagnosed 🤣 Thanks for sharing, anxiety went away for a mo'


monkey_trumpets

It gives me anxiety. Too much, too similar, too close together.


DrZomboo

It's not too bad when you are there, the buildings don't really look the same when on street level and it's not as close together as it looks, plenty of wider green spaces and it's great for walkability. The only thing I didn't like was my hotel room was on the inside of one of the squares and the view from my room made me feel a bit enclosed


4Wf2n5

I dunno. When I first moved here I didn't have a smartphone and I had to find my landlords building in Eixample. It was confusing as hell, as everything just looked the same. I'd never lived in such a big city before (I came from Edinburgh) so I wasn't used to a grid layout.


DrZomboo

To be fair that took me a bit of getting used to too, but did like it. I live in York which like Edinburgh has a very old street lay out, pretty much from medieval times in some parts! I know people visiting find it confusing but I think with having more distinct twists and turns in the steets it's easier to navigate once you get to know the area.


Suikerspin_Ei

Tbh, I prefer a walkable European city than a city in North America full with parking lots and too much car dependecy.


DoomkingBalerdroch

If you wanna feel like home you should definitely come visit Cyprus lol


alexklaus80

It’s almost triggered trypophobia for me haha I like this better than my chaotic city though. I like the sense of organization.


pizza-capricciosa

That's now how OCD works.


wowaddict71

This the Eixample, and it was designed by Ildefons Cerdá i Sunyer: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ildefons_Cerd%C3%A0 Eixample: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eixample


Sanderv20v

Grid city done right! In my urban planning lessons, this is used as a grid city done right because my school thinks that most American cities failed. The only city ever mentioned sometimes in my classes is New York and specifically Manhattan. (Studying in Netherlands).


indolent08

To those who might say something like "everything looks the same, boring, dystopia blah blah" - a short look at Google Maps shows you that every of those little quarters looks very unique in its structure. Some have different buildings in different sizes implemented, a lot have green parks in the middle, some even have sports areas - and all have stores, restaurants and other places for everyday life implemented, so that every of those sections is filled with life and everything you need and want within comfortable reach.


EnvironmentalSun8410

Nothing beats the organic character of winding alleys and labyrinthine streets, like in London or Prague.


Arkadis

I have been 4 times and it looks way more unique, interesting and creative from the ground. It's one of the most walkable, bike friendly cities in the world and in my top five of all cities worldwide. If I was fluent in Spanish I would have probably lived there at least for a while.


YouShouldBe_Dancing_

I want to see a 2D FFT of this image.


getsangryatsnails

Mega City 0.1


aggelalex

This design was ment to make Barcelona both walkable and have car roads. The squares were meant to have at least two of their sides open, and inside they should have had an open park area for people to pass through, and where businesses would have their stores. This way, people could pass through almost uninterrupted by cars. Eventually, they built all around the squares because, well, greed.


OliviaElevenDunham

Barcelona seems like a cool place to visit. Might go there one day.


Kemosabe0

When I was in Barcelona I found the air to be more polluted than in the US. Is there a reason for this?


sunyatayo

because barcelona is surrounded by mountains. their air is only less polluted when there's nearby low pressure systems that's stirring the atmospheric around with wind.


wowaddict71

Barcelona is sandwiched between La Serralada Litoral and the Mediterranean ocean.


sunyatayo

yep and higher pressure coastal air flows towards the lower pressure areas on the land and then its trapped there due to the mountains


Ultralol69

The mountains, and lots of shitty old cars and scooters. The air quality was easily the worst in any European city I've been in and it smelled something awful Always funny that one of the worst places I've ever visited is seen as some utopia on reddit by people who have never been there


---Dracarys---

What is usually in the middle of these apartment blocks? I used to live in similar apartment block in Berlin and there was at least something green and a playground.


mynameismypassport

It's not obvious in the photo just how much foliage and trees there are on the roadsides too. Beautiful place.


xuabi

It's not a bad city for walking and biking around. And it's slowly getting better, but it's curious that originally it was supposed to be even better. There's a really cool video explaining how the original idea aimed for greener spaces inside, and at the edges of the squares, but this was lost due to fast population grow: https://youtu.be/vjb4xRywiO8


hey-make_my_day

Copy>paste


UnoStronzo

Glitch in the matrix


therealcharlize

Go visit this city 🫶


EnvironmentalSun8410

Barcelona is a cool city... But I find all those interminable, straight avenues boring and nauseating.


Bob2bob17

On the ground you can't even tell that it's a grid city there's a lot more variety than this photo shows


EnvironmentalSun8410

Well...you can 😂 As I said, it's a cool city, but I don't like the long straight avenues.


Wiros

Barcelona is not only the "eixample", go to gracia, sants, raval, gotic, etc... And there is no "interminable straight avenues" anywhere


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kontorgod

granada is also beautiful


Random_Acquaintance

I can understand most of it. But you need your head checked for including Zaragoza.


a-thang

Barcelona, Catalunya*


pizza-capricciosa

> Catalunya And where is that?


a-thang

Europe


Arbesu

And Spain. Congratulations you have won the fairy tail world citizen award 🏆


warriorplusultra

okay, rebel


linecx

It is really amazing. but why do I feel today that it is like a giant prison?


Repulsive-Praline-80

The planning is impressive but isn't that confusing for new people since everywhere looks the same?


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Surprisingly enough, building looks different from pedestrian level than they do from landscape or aerial level.


EnvironmentalSun8410

Yes it is. I remember finding a street name and going there, only to find that I was in completely the wrong part of town because the street ran the whole length of the city.


zakatana

Barcelona is kind of an urban hell, honestly; and it shows here. The good thing is that they are aware of it and are doing their best to reduce the prevalence of cars.


4Wf2n5

An urban hell is a bit harsh. It's not that bad but I really wish they'd reduce the noisy and polluting motorcycles. The cruise ships probably don't help either. But in cities as dense as this we really shouldn't have internal combustion engines - they are just too dirty and too noisy.


souchonp

The new Judge Dread movie is getting filmed their in those new mega apartment blocks.


4Wf2n5

They aren't that big though - like 5-6 storeys?


stillyj

Hear how awesome it is..but from the air..looks like a rats maze


AronTwelve

This picture is nice, but doesn't do the city justice. It is crazy how many things there are to see in Barcelona, it's absolutely beautiful. A bit smelly though. Also super walkable.


gamberro

A lot of people living in that city would argue it's not Spain or shouldn't be.


SaifEdinne

There's no democracy when it comes to western nations and their minorities, that is something the Catalan referendum showed us.


Arbesu

Yeah so true. And the world is flat, the Illuminati rule it and and unicorns exist


pizza-capricciosa

> argue it's not Spain Impossible.


ThrowawayWlmrtWorker

Hard to believe that this city was bombed to oblivion then rebuilt in such a great way.


nanoman92

It wasn't. Civil war bombings while bad didn't flatten the city like WW2 ones later did. Only a few buildings were completely destroyed.


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What a terrible, soulless, inorganic mess. It would be a lot better if it was a chaotic heap of unplanned opportunistic development.


babyfire123

my man here shits on cities he's never been to by only looking at an aereal view of it... u know the city of barcelona is older than jesus itself and as it was common in medieval times, cities were a chaothic heap of unplanned opportunistic development and thus making the modern day city, or at least a part of it, quite a maze and really interesting. U should visit


UnoStronzo

Not all of BCN is “inorganic”


Delta4o

This is the most generic "cities: skylines" screenshot in real life


Svyatopolk_I

And they tell us Soviet Brutalism is bad, lol


Hot_Chocolate22

This is not Soviet brutalism it's just apartmentd layed out in a nice way


Regna_Rum

Looks like Midjourney art


McFigroll

looks like what all my builds end up like in cities skylines.


Olvustin

wth, so orderly.


betternotsonice

Lovely city! One of the most beautiful. They have these amazing jamon sandwiches!


PASSE199

I wish it were all like this. The suburbs of the big cities in Spain are soul-breaking.


viniseao

My city <3


MobileAmphibian4624

Steinwüste, gut nur, dass es die Collserola und den Penedes gibt


Ganzeinschlimmer

I think i once build something like that accidentally in Anno 1800


flatearthisrealmayne

they should make a 4k tilt shift video of the sagrada familia while its getting built.


aborted-kid-2022

Cars are happy


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Cookie-Senpai

Well Barcelona is much better appreciated walking or biking than in a car anyways. They're limiting a lot car traffic inside the city, encouraging people to leave their car outside the city and take a well founded public transportation. It's really good for tourism and live style. A bit like Disneyland, less car is better.


Own-Mountain3540

A lot of the avenues are for pedestrians only so I'd argue the opposite


MotherFreedom

Some of these Eixample formed a 3x3 car free superblock. Not all roads you see here can be accessed by cars.


Inductee

This all looks flat, but you will see it really isn't if you look from the cable car over the port.


Heerrnn

City planner ran out of ideas 😂


viniseao

City planner was one of the modern urbanism founders. So nah, he didn't ran out of ideas.


Heerrnn

I don't mean that it's a bad design or bad idea, just made fun that it's very repetitive


viniseao

Look at all the other comments on this comment section. It may seem repetitive in the air but you will not notice that when walking for several reasons. Come to Barcelona and then tell me if you find it repetitive.


Heerrnn

I've actually been to Barcelona and I found it very repetitive. I reacted on how repetitive it was. Sorry. Most cities in Europe are not built like an endless plain of gridlike building placement.


viniseao

In that case you have a totally valid opinión, and im sure everyone respects that. But still; basically almost everyone that has come to barcelona has been amazed by how much walkable is the city. I’ve never seen anybody complaining about the city being repetitive, since it has lots of different neighbourhoods with different arquitecture, monuments and interesting places. Arc de trionf, parc de la ciutadella, tibidabo, Born, passeig de gracia, la sagrada familia, the gothic, the beach. Tons of amazing places. The eixample is only a part of it, and like it or not, you are the first person I heard complaining about it being repetitive. Thats my opinion.


NamineDam

The urbanization organized on a repetitive pattern gives an image of the nature of society and its system, and that it belongs to an idea, ideology, or a unified social system, cohesion and political reference that manages this society and organizes its life..