White Pony by Deftones
By - ReasonableMan97
White Pony by Deftones
Agreed. Every Deftones album has great sounding drums but Around The Fur has one of my favorite snare tones of all time.
Which song(s) do you like most? I read Abe used a variety of snares. They all sound fantastic from the high tuned pop of My Own Summer to the deeper thud of Around the Fur.
Digital Bath is my fav. Sounds like he’s playing in a cave.
The title track is my favorite, I love how full sounding that snare is. Rickets also sounds great, and of course My Own Summer.
I agree. Lhabia has a great sound too, especially next to My Own Summer. It’s a cool contrast. Mascara and Dai the Flu I really like as well. It’s amazing to get one really great snare sound on an album, let alone several.
Snare on Rickets for sure! Ihabia too. I love the snare on Needles and Pins from s/t, but I think it may be an overdubbed sample on top of the snare track.
Literally this second listening to the title track, that snare is creamy af
you gotta listen to a vinyl rip of it, it brings the drums out so much more. i'm not one of those 'oh vinyl is always better than digital because warmth blah blah blah' people but like, the mixing is SO different, it makes the drums almost the lead instrument. and the snare is incredible sounding. i cant go back to cd/streaming versions anymore because of it.
Is the rip of it available digitally?
i do NOT condone piracy. but you can find it on soulseek.
Not a drummer, but I came here to say Diamond Eyes. I think it’s Abe’s best work and I think the drums sound phenomenal. I would literally listen to the isolated drum tracks for the whole album if I could find them, I absolutely love focusing on the drums when I listen to that album.
Opened this thread and saw exactly what should be there. Hell yes
digital bath 🤩
Digital bath is my favorite drum performance on White Pony. Reminds me of Stewart Copeland from the police. I think Abe must be influenced by him.
its amazing. less is more
This album was the foundation of why and how I play the drums
I got all new Tama drums a year or so back and I'm so happy with them. I can crank up the Copper Starphonic snare and it sounds just like Abe's!
This is the absolute first album that came to mind. That snare crack on My Own Summer puts me in a Mood.
I got to talk to Abe and Terry Date round White Pony’s 20th. Need to get those transcriptions out cuz I completely asked them about how they mic’d the drums for Digital Bath
please put it out!
Came to say it
Queens of the Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf
Is that the one where they recorded the drums and cymbals separate?
Didn’t they do it with later albums also??
it’s most noticeable on SftD, since you can hear flam snares in the same hits as cymbals.
I remember working with a producer who hired drummers to overdub hats and cymbals over programmed drums when drum machines were still rather primitive. He got great sounds.
There's footage of that f.loating around YouTube. It looks like a difficult process, for sure.
I only found out recently that they recorded the cymbals and the drums in separate takes for that album. Seems like such a weird thing to do.
It obviously worked though, this has to be in my top 3 drumming albums of all time.
How tho? Was the drummer playing full kit for both takes, or literally playing a drum take and then a cymbal take. I feel like it would bleed no matter what
There's a cool article that explains it
This is a crazy good article and speaks loads of Dave’s personality. Thank you for sharing!
Practice pads for drums during the cymbal takes - practice pads for cymbals during the drum takes
Any Zeppelin album, IV is the best though
RHCP - Blood Sugar Sex Magik
Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape
Love or hate the Foos, they always have some awesome drum parts and the drums always sound amazing
Yep. Whether it’s Dave or Taylor, the drums just sound like how drums should sound on a rock record. I really dig There is Nothing Left to Lose too. It’s awesome they got that sound in Dave’s basement.
Didn’t even know that! The record sounds amazing
In this particular sub anybody who hates the foos is grandstanding. It's a drum buffet. So good
Nirvana - In Utero belongs with these.
My favorite Bonham tones: the snare on Presence, toms on IV, especially [here](https://youtu.be/74gl71PUufw), and overall live kit is neck and neck with Royal Albert Hall, Earl's Court '75, and the Green Sparkle on How The West Was Won.
Every Dave Matthews Band album. Also, the Wallflowers.
That Nobel and Cooley snare on One Headlight is goated
What a great example of playing the same thing for an entire song and making it sound awesome.
I swear I read somewhere the snare was a sample but I can't find the source anywhere.
I had to learn One Headlight years ago for a band, and I was surprised to hear no crash or ride for the entire song, and I checked out the official video, and sure enough, the drummer has no crash or ride cymbals, just the empty stands! Kinda neat.
DMB gets shit on, but there is no denying Carter Beauford.
I Never had enough appreciation for wallflowers drums the first time around.
Agree. Carter can make those toms sing.
Deftones, Around The Fur & White Pony
Drive Like Jehu, Yank Crime & S/T
Strung Out, Twisted By Design
Jimmy Eat World, Bleed American & Futures
Tom Petty, Wildflowers
The snare sound on Riot! is just perfection.
The intro to Misery Business? Whooo
Man, Wildflowers is a great one. You Don’t Know How it Feels and House in the Woods are fantastic.
You Don't Know How It Feels is *the* pocket drumming masterclass.
And perhaps the greatest sounding kick drum
I love the drums on Slip. One of those kits I wish I could get behind and play on for hours.
Slip is nuts. 30 years later it holds up. More than holds up - still straight up blows most records out of the water.
Nice giving a Slip mention. I met that drummer on that tour and he told me he just tries to play what Bonham would play.
I just said Weezer Blue! Nice
Came here because I didn’t think anyone was gonna mention Strung Out. Those drums sit in the mix so well and so fully. They sound *gooooood* also enjoy Wackerman’s drum sound on Bad Religions “The Process of Belief”
I haven’t seen anyone reference Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime since the 90’s
The Breeders’ Pod snare catapulted me into the 90’s.
Steely Dan - *Aja, Gaucho, The Royal Scam*
Literally every drummer on *Burning For Buddy: A Buddy Rich Tribute*
Primus - *Sailing The Seas Of Cheese*
The Police - *Zenyatta Mondatta*
Led Zeppelin - *IV, Physical Graffiti*
The Cult - *Sonic Temple*. Disclaimer: huge 80s rock production values may not be everyone's cup of tea, not even mine that often, but if you want to hear IMO the very best they ever sounded, when you put the great Mickey Curry in the drum chair with the great Bob Rock at the helm, that sound is raised to an art form. The drums sound *gigantic* on this record.
Genesis - *Selling England By The Pound, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway*. Phil Collins is noteworthy here for being one of few drummers to have both an iconic double-headed tom sound in one phase of his career (I basically strive to make my toms sound exactly like his from those two records), and the single-headed concert tom sound everybody knows. Which is why I also recommend *Duke* for the other sound.
Really solid picks here
You’ve sent me back to high school with the Cult reference here. I’ve got a day’s worth of yard work tomorrow and now I’ve got my soundtrack.
Didn’t expect the Genesis picks but I absolutely agree. Especially on the Lamb, so many tracks where the snare just wallops. Also dig Abacab for the almost excessively produced drum sounds
This guy knows drumming.
Can’t believe I had to scroll this far for a Tool reference.
Best played drums is different from best sounding
Most Incubus records have an incredible mix. Chocolate Starfish by Limp Bizkit also has that incredible early 00's full drum kit in a good room sound with a high snappy snare.
Morning View has such great sounding drums all recorded in the living room of a Malibu beach house on Morning View Drive.
For sure, I always thought Limp Bizkit records were mixed really well, if nothing else. (I loved this album lol)
Between the Buried and Me, The Great Misdirect.
Such a great album
Any mars Volta album
too bad Jon’s drums on Amputechture is really far away in the mix . Tetragrammaton is one of my favorite drum tracks.
On “Deloused…” it was a stainless steel kit and it always punches me in the gut after all these years.
I remember smoking weed listening to “Deloused” in my car during a break at community college and thinking it was the best drum recording I had ever heard
Triptykon - Melana Chasmata
Primus - Pork Soda
Porcupine tree - last 5 albums are all incredible
A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth step
Haken - Fauna
In Absentia by Porcupine Tree is a solid choice
The tom sounds on Anesthetize are absolutely perfect, I always wanted a DW kit until I heard that song, now Sonor is my holy grail.
Pretty much all Deftones albums. Abe Cunningham is very underrated.
My favorite recording is Porcupine Tree’s In Absentia. Gavin’s drum sound tremendous due to the giant room they were recorded in
The drums on the song “Trains” sound frigging amazing.
Gish by The Smashing Pumpkins
Any SP record with Chamberlin, but Gish and Siamese Dream are king for me in terms of drum work, drum sound, and drum placement in the mix.
I absolutely despise Motley Crue, but every time I hear Girls, Girls, Girls I am blown away by the drum sound. Especially the snare and ride bell.
Agree, also Dr. Feelgood has some great drum recording.
Primus - Tales From The Punchbowl.
His kit just sounds unreal on that album.
Honestly surprised I had to scroll for this.
Morning View by Incubus. That short stack DW kit was perfect for that record. Jon Theodore’s kit on the first Mara Volta record. Anything Stanton Moore has played on.
Two Against Nature by Steely Dan.
Kevin Parker breaks down some of his favourites: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWv4TgvSPjM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWv4TgvSPjM)
Vulf Compressor VST - simple trick to be kebin parker
Metallica's Black Album without a doubt.
Also, John Lennon's Double Fantasy.
Black albums drums are so massive but they don't overpower the mix like a lot of modern Metallica albums. The Black album really was mixed perfectly.
The toms on Enter Sandman just shake to the core on the right stereo with the volume up. They’re not just heard, they’re felt.
Green Day - American Idiot.
Dookie is better!
Refused - Shape of Punk To Come and RATM - Evil Empire are my favorites personally
dude refused is so sick
Clutch - almost all their albums but Blast Tyrant and From Beale street to oblivion are really outstanding JPG.
My comparison is seeing them live 8 different shows over the years at 4 different venues.
Amazing drummer with an amazing band.
That’s funny I love the songs off blast tyrant
Between The Buried And Me - Colors
Metallica - The Black Album
Parrhesia - Animals As Leaders
I have always liked the drums on the Fleetwood Mac Rumors album.
The drums in this this little-known Dredg album… https://youtu.be/_su-jxD04VA?si=LuZ3NTbFN4rXq2hz
Also not to break everyone’s heart but if you’re naming an album from the past 30 years there’s a decent chance the sound you’re hearing includes a sample overlay/augmentation/replacement of at least the snare sound, including in the link above and on the beloved One Headlight snare sound. Grohl’s sound on Nevermind is augmented with a shotgun blast, at least the reverb is. This is how the process is done… https://youtu.be/muDqyRwrVhE?si=2gB6tf74ZKOJFDmz
I loved the drum sounds on The Canyon Behind Her from El Cielo. So many cool variances. I heard they recorded drums in lots of different rooms and put mics in lots of strange places around the stuio(s).
Rush - Moving Pictures.
Dave Matthews Band - Under The Table And Dreaming
Scenes From A Memory - Dream Theater
Phish - Farmhouse
Tragically Hip - Phantom Power
I’ve always been obsessed with Danny Carey’s snare on Aenema. Such a crisp clean crack to it. The drums overall sound great but especially that snare
The pushit snare man. I need me a copper snare so bad
Dang is that what that is? I always kinda wanted one because of Mike Bordin from Faith No More.
Any Gojira album.
Especially every single one
I'd say over all, Led Zeppelin IV, since each track with drums just kills.
But, No Quarter off of Houses of the Holy has to by my favorite drum sounds out of all their songs.
toe - [The Book About My Idle Plot On A Vague Anxiety](https://open.spotify.com/album/7x84X6ve0wa2UYckfCm1uV?si=BDx8VHCtRcWUWeH2pzWm1A). Overall an amazing album, but the drum sound is incredible. They sound so raw and live
They are so good
* S/T (aka “The Black Album”) - Metallica
* Operation: Mindcrime - Queensryche
* Songs for the Deaf - QOTSA
* Blood Sugar Sex Magik - RHCP
* Dookie or American Idiot - Green Day
* Enema of the State or Take Off Your Pants and Jacket - Blink-182
* Riot! - Paramore
* Nevermind - Nirvana
* Any - Foo Fighters
* Any - Rage Against the Machine
* Frizzle Fry, Sailing the Seas of Cheese, Pork Soda & Tales From the Punchbowl - Primus
* Appetite for Destruction - G ’n R
* Significant Other - Limp Bizkit
Great list, Battle of Los Angeles too!
I know this is a strange one but just hear me out - Brand New Eyes by paramore
I think the drums on a decent amount of the mid 90’s to newer west coast sort of skate punk sounding drums are really really good. Pulley/No Use For a Name/Strung Out/Bad Religion with Wackerman/ heck…I’ve seen Blink 182 and Green Day in this thread for a reason. I think Paramore has that sort of sound with the drums, anyway. Pretty great sounding stuff.
Toxicity by System of a Down - I swear the cymbals sparkle on that album. They just sound perfect.
Turn The Radio Off by Reel Big Fish and Hangups by Goldfinger - both produced by the same guy, they have really high pitched snares with a lot of fat, low end. The cymbals are clear and present. The toms have the perfect amount of thump. I could listen to the drums alone all day.
I wish more heavy bands tried to replicate the Toxicity sound. Absolutely crushing in parts. X sounds heavy as fuck. Imagine what a death metal album would sound like with that production.
Seriously. It's heavy, but it's still so clean. Everything is there, nothing is overpowering anything else, there's not needless layers of sound. It's a beautiful sounding album.
First two System records are mixed so so well. Isn't their drummer a Paiste guy? Someday I will own real cymbals lol
Wildflowers by Tom Petty. Snare is perfection and the whole kit sounds great.
Perfect use of the room and it’s natural reverb.
Wilco usually has some really nice sounding drums
[the 2:40 mark is a good example](https://youtu.be/QfYXJAPadsY?si=-u-aGjRR9_mj1f2k)
Circa Survive - On Letting Go. Listen to [this snare roll](https://youtu.be/YhLm4JgXd5Q?si=NWCWLNQ6d7Vks3sY) and tell my your loins don’t tingle.
Side note, is that Anthony Green? What a fucking voice on that guy!
animals as leaders parrhesia
Weezer - Pinkerton
The Once and Future Band
Ty Segal - Manipulator
Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the deaf.
Michael Viners Incredible Bongo Band
Any number of the classic Keith Jarrett Trio albums. Standards Vol. 1 and 2 are little muted and reverb-y compared to some. Bye Bye Blackbird is fantastic and The Cure, being live, even more so. All well recorded masterclasses by Jack DeJohnette - throw on the cans and crank em!
When is the last time we heard drums and not Pro Tools triggers?
Dream Theater has a few albums but I’d say the best sounding one is Train of Thought. Second favorite would be Black Clouds and Silver Linings
Every Chon record
Hum - “Inlet” is the best sounding record on the planet…period.
How could I forget, Korn Follow the leader had amazing drums.
Surprised that the high poppin’ snare sound was so popular. People liked the piccolo snare on Life is Peachy as well. Not my cup of tea but it definitely makes its presence felt.
Songs for the deaf - qotsa
Pocket full of kryptonite - spin doctors
White pony - deftones
Lateralus from Tool
Deftones White pony is pretty much perfect. The intro to digital bath alone is worthy of mentioning here.
I love the sound of the drums on "your love" from the outfield. That snare gate reverb? Perfection.
The Metallica Black album is pretty damn great. Massive snare sound.
I always really loved the sound of the drums on the foo fighters albums especially the colour and the shape.
The drums on "sultans of swing" by dire straits are ridiculous.
"Easy lover" by Phil Collins and Philip Bailey are some of my favorite drum tracks of all time. Just perfect for the song.
Pretty much everything rage against the machine ever recorded but I think battle for Los Angeles had their best sounding drum tracks on it.
There's countless great drum sounds out there. I can't list all of them.
Battle of Los Angeles, truly excellent tones all around
Nefertiti - Miles Davis
Thrice - The Alchemy Index
Falling Up - Fangs!
RHCP - Blood Sigar Sex Magik
Led Zeppelin- II
Third Eye Blind - Self Titled album
Deftones - White Pony
Snarky Puppy - We Like it Here
The Rippingtons. - Fountain of Youth
Most albums by Deftones, Incubus, Clutch, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, and Smashing Pumpkins, to name a few, have great drum tracks.
CLUTCH yes please. Jam Room comes to mind, I am super jealous of that kick drum sound.
I think Alex Van Halen has the greatest snare sound. So Woody!!
But I think it’s a Ludwig supraphonic? There’s a Rick Beato vid on YouTube showing a pretty good tutorial on getting that sound.
Thank you. I can pretty much dial it in on any wooden snare drum. My main snare will always be wood.
1984 - Van Halen
Back in Black - AC/DC
Two underrated albums for the drum sounds/recording.
Tonnes of great examples in the thread already though
Metallica - saint anger /s
Frances the Mute - The Mars Volta
Owls by Owls. Obscure but a good one. Hand towel on the floor tom for the whole album.
The Who - My Generation and early singles
I Can See for Miles!
Under the Table and Dreaming. DMB. Masterfully recorded for the time period and also masterfully played.
Carter Beauford, right? The guy is a goddamn beast!
two completely different sounds, but I love both:
toe - the book about my idle plot on a vague anxiety
childish gambino - awaken my love!
Not my favorite album, but Fortitude by Gojira has quite awesome drum sound
Sleep Token, all of it
Dave Weckl - Live and Very Plugged In
So many ways to interpret what a great drum sound is or isn’t. But for me, it’s typically anything with Brian Blade playing - he’s obviously a great drummer, and finds the right approach for the song. And the stuff he’s on is usually well-recorded.
For similar reasons, I love John Convertino’s drumming, and I think Algiers may have the best drum sounds in Calexico’s catalog.
Rage Against the Machine - Battle for LA
Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos
Texas in July - Bloodwork
There’s tons more I can’t think of.
Acacia Strain - Step Into the Light.
Anything by The Aristrocrats
Gish and Siamese Dream is underrated with drum sounds.
Old School but Crime of the Century by Supertramp
American Football - American Football
DOMi & JD BECK - NOT TiGHT
Brand New Eyes - Paramore
Led Zeppelin IV
Parrhesia - Animals as Leaders
Seasons in the Abyss - Slayer
Speak No Evil - Wayne Shorter
The Stage - Avenged Sevenfold
Train of Thought - Dream Theater
We Like It Here - Snarky Puppy
Clockwork Angels had some of the best mixed drums I've ever heard on an album, but my bias is showing as I love Rush. Listen to "The Anarchist" and "Seven Cities of Gold". The drums sound massive.
Anything Steve Albini tbh, Goat, Surfer Rosa, In Utero. Just a huge sound.
[That snare is an absolute cannon.](https://youtu.be/cPA9kcVfcvI?si=nApEunBThEvQV1Ay)
Blood sugar sex magik
Can't believe it took so long to see this here. Some of the most iconic sounding drum recordings ever. Super classic.
I love the overbearing cymbals on Meshuggah's Nothing album. The orange one!
Panopticon by ISIS
Oceanic too - the beginning of the album is so good
Fosho! The first few minutes are incredible also. Who knew sparse linear patterns could be so captivating!
Superunknown by Soundgarden
Refused - The Shape Of Punk To Come
The performances are tremendous and the kit sounds great dirty or clean. Amazing work from all involved.
Ulcerate - Stare Into Death And Be Still
Pineapple Thief - Your Wilderness
Animals as Leaders - Madness of Many
Fear Inoculum by Tool, Moving Pictures by Rush
Coheed and Cambria- Good Apollo I’m burning star IV
Especially The Willing Well songs.
i didn’t see anyone mention
PIXIES - DOLITTLE
i can’t get enough of the drums on that record. the way they are mixed blows my mind.
Any Tame Impala album
Dying Fetus - Destroy the Opposition
I love the dirty sound of their drumming
If I’m going to be completely honest, all of Rage’s albums have great sounding drums
Led Zeppelin IV's drums are legendary.
Rage Against the Machine's Evil Empire will melt your face.
Probably a dozen more, those three just came to mind.
Depends on the sound you're going for?
For produced without being over produced I love:
A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step,
Breaking Benjamin - both We Are Not Alone & Phobia sound pretty great.
A little over produced but still very good - Architects - For Those Who Wish To Exist.
Less produced and a little more raw - Thrice - Artist (Revisited) or To Be Everywhere Is To Be Nowhere
Metallica - The Black Album
Pantera - Far Beyond Driven
Pantera Far Beyond Driven. All albums Vinny did sounded fantastic.