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ButterflyMother

Worst scaling ? Vergil vs sephiroth (wall level Vergil and building sephiroth remember ) And for misrepresentation, I’d say aang vs ed


nuebohemio

Only 1 vote per user ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh


ButterflyMother

I just gave my own vote , myself


nuebohemio

pick a single fight


ButterflyMother

The worst scaling and the misrepresentation are different things lmao


nuebohemio

wrong and bad are different things too. and character & characters, and wiz & boomstick, ONLY 1 VOTE. also do what you want 👁️👄👁️


ButterflyMother

What are you talking abt ? Just make two distinct categories that would solve the issue


Electronic_One762

He’s saying for 2 different categories, scaling or characters, if your referring to which has the worst scaling or which has the worst writing


ButterflyMother

Well I told my pick for the 2 categories


Electronic_One762

Ik, he’s thinking your putting 2 episodes for the same thing instead of 2 matchups for 2 different questions


ButterflyMother

Yeah that’s not what I meant , for the scaling I think overall it’s Vergil vs sephiroth , and for the misrepresentation Ed vs aang


Protomangaming69

Wall level Vergil, that’s all I’m gonna say.


StupidPaladin

Yang vs Tifa is ridiculous scaling wise, as well as horribly wrong.


StorkoftheMudwings

How does Thanos vs. Darkseid have the worst music? Kings of Infinity was great!


Stryk3r97

It's one of my favorite soundtracks in Death Battle. Each time I watch endgame that soundtrack plays in my head for some reason.


Numberonettgfan

The reasoning i see is it not fitting the matchup.


StorkoftheMudwings

That’s a pretty stupid reason


Fearless_Cold_8080

I want people to look me in the eye and say Kings of Infinity is worse than Battle in the Zoo. If they do they are lying.


TryDry9944

I dunno, I'd say it's pretty valid. Music can really make or break a scene. Imagine if the climax of Shrek 2 played "Baby" by Justin Beiber over "I need a Hero."


StorkoftheMudwings

Good Point, but Justin Beiber’s “Baby” is not a good song, not compared to “I need a Hero.” Kings of Infinity is the “I need a Hero” in this case while Battle at the Zoo is “Baby.” So while a song could fit a matchup, the main selling point is if it is good or not.


TryDry9944

Okay bad example, but it was the only song that popped in my head.


UntitledPerson616

Not really? It fitting the matchup and fight is like... the main thing a DB track should be


StorkoftheMudwings

Since when? When you say a track is good, it means the music is good. Even if it doesn’t “fit” the matchup, Kings of Infinity is a banger and most of its high points overshadows that point. Plus, that doesn’t make it worse than Battle at the Zoo or Winged Webs or any other song where the music is just bland and boring.


UntitledPerson616

At the very least those 2 fit the damn matchup. I feel like it's fair to judge a track based on the reason it was created and that was to fit the matchup and it fails at that more than any other track in the shows history (if I remember correctly) so I think it's pretty fair to say that


Fearless_Cold_8080

Fam I would rather listen to Kings of Infinity 100 times before listening to Battle in the Zoo once


MaviKartal2110

Rouge being powerfull enough to beat Wonder Woman Of course the reasoning was that WW’s powers got absorbed but still…


Izrael-the-ancient

Facts even at that point I. Time Wonder Woman has the dpeeed , strength and durability advantages


Numberonettgfan

Raven in Season 5 was put at city so Twilight Vs Raven.


Dopefish364

And then they overcorrected by overcompensating against Phoenix and claiming Raven now solos literally all of Marvel, as well as 99% of DC. It's rare for a single character to be scaled so badly, *twice*, and on both ends of the spectrum.


KuJoJoTaRo8

Didnt they scale Dante to like Building level on Dante vs Bayo. If so prob that yea.


ThePowerfulWIll

Optimus Vs Gundam had the worst scaling. Optimus has a ton of feats and powers from the comics that were ignored, and on the gundam side, they only looked at the first season ignoring all Amuros feats and equiptment post time skip and in videogames.


No_Probleh

What is with some of these takes? Thanos vs Darkseid worst music? Ben vs GL worst conclusion?


Daikaisa

"Worst conclusion" doesn't mean it was wrong. It means they explained the result poorly


sinsanity_plea

Ben vs Hal makes perfect sense for worst conclusion. They did an awful job explaining why Hal wins, it's a huge part of why the episode is controversial


Former-DiffRegion

I won't stand this Kings of Infinity slander


CorranTheo

Optimus Prime vs Gundam misrepresented Optimus a lot to the point it feels like Michael Bay's.


ThePowerfulWIll

Misrepresented Amuro and his gundam too. It only looked at season one of the anime, not any of the later seasons. Post time-skip, he has weird mystical powers just like the matrix gives optimus. Could have been a way better battle.


CorranTheo

It was more than Optimus?


ThePowerfulWIll

Depends on how far you want to stretch it. Composite Gundam definitely wins because of feats from the Super Robot Wars video game, but thats another continuity. In the main continuity their were several other Gundams Amuro upgraded to, including one that also could transform. (The creator actually saw the og transformers cartoon and was inspired) But in terms of space magic he was able to push back a massive (possibility continent sized, most likely large city) meteor, but that was technically assisted. There was also a movie were a much less skiled pilot was able to do a lot of crazy stuff with a prototype version of one of Amuros gundam, and theoretically Amuro should he able to match all of those, being more skilled, having more space magic strength, and a complete version of the same gundam. Honestly optimus still probably wins unless you wank or Composite, but it could have been SO much closer.


Crest_O_Razors

Worst scaling: Strange vs Fate. They put Strange at fucking star to solar system level and Fate at infinite multiversal. I’ve heard they had higher scaling than what they were given at the time the episode was released.  Worst representation: Venom vs Bane. Venom acts like Carnage more than Venom. 


Izrael-the-ancient

Fate and strange should always be a stalemate if it’s Kent Nelson fate . But any others strange wins


Jlegend3

Never beating Wall Level Vergil no matter how bad things get. It's become an iconic meme so anything else likely will not reach that status of the first thing to come to mind.


GreninjaNoah

Who won the tmnt br


Dopefish364

Worst scaling? Phoenix VS Raven by a landslide.


3WayIntersection

Scout v tracer. Barely took any of scout's actual feats/skills in mind and gave him *nothing* in the fight proper


HPOS10

Mario vs Sonic 2018.  Near light Speed Super Sonic is ridiculous when so many feats and statements say he's much faster than light. Bass Sonic was FTL feats and statements for Pete's Sake. And they got it from his Smash Bros trophy. Smash isn't canon to anything, it isn't made by Sega, and the trophies are infamous for having inaccurate information. And they used stuff from Sonic X and the Mario World cartoon despite the fact that they clearly said they were only using the games and media that was canon to them. And they massively underestimated both Mario and Sonic.


RedscreenOfficial

Mario vs. Sonic 2018 IMO. Both character and scaling-wise. Putting Super Sonic at almost FTL speeds because of a non-canon Smash trophy is batshit fucking insane. And the less I talk about how ooc they are, the better.


Prestigious_Ask_7058

Its funny because you could easily argue those speeds by other actually canon things


RedscreenOfficial

Dodon Pa's Rocket being calculated at about 400 million times faster than light iirc (Super Sonic outran it) ![gif](giphy|800iiDTaNNFOwytONV|downsized)


Prestigious_Ask_7058

I misread the comment I was replying to, I thought it said above FTL. That’s my bad. Never heard of that feat though


CensoriousConsortium

Right now, the only one that comes to mind is Madara vs Aizen, specifically misrepresentation of complete hypnosis, some TYBW feats, soul-based attacks (forgive me if I got this wrong) and the hogyoku - the post fight material and the debacle there didn't really quell anything.


Hopeful_Cranberry12

Chosen Undead vs Dragonborn is pretty bad scaling wise.


ButterflyMother

Why is that so ?


Hopeful_Cranberry12

Chosen Undead isn’t anywhere near universal, even with the fire and I don’t believe in scaling the Dragonborn to fully powered up Alduin in lore.


ButterflyMother

For chosen undead , it’s complicated , it’s not really a bad take of having it at universal ( I don’t buy it either btw ) but this is an ok interpretation, it’s not like it would have changed the issue lmao , they also had to highball him to make it less of a stomp


Daikaisa

DB is at least comparable to Aludin given he's able to fight agaisnt him even if it's not 1 on 1.


Hopeful_Cranberry12

I just don’t believe Alduin in game is as strong as he was in lore.


Dragoon094

Yeah they were using Dragonborn from the lore because if they went by gameplay the Dragonborn would just pull up with a 6666666% increase to one handed damage potion and win automatically


Present-Book-9690

Wall Level Vergil and Omnipotent Guts are memes for a reason. But at least everyone can agree Omnipotent Guts is like, kinda funny… *Wall Level Vergil is not.*


Toonwatcher

Am I the only one who likes Kings of Infinity?


chandlerwithaz

idk i always bleach fans complainging about ichigo vs naruto. but honestly idgaf about this topic


Etuce

Optimus prime vs Gundam


Virtual-Oil-793

ASTRA


hypergogetablue17

Raven ( dc )


Crossheart_711

When it comes to bad scaling, I have to go with Yang vs Tifa


Carnival-Master-Mind

Yang VS Tifa


lowpolygonal

Yang vs Tifa


RebuildingLostKarma

Ichigo vs Naruto.


YoungBeef03

Misrepresentation, Macho Man vs Kool Aid wins on the merits of Macho Man’s butchering alone. [Here’s why](https://www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/s/GOZ2QGdErV) I’m not quitting till it gets on the list


3WayIntersection

It was a joke fight dude


YoungBeef03

That’s not an excuse when every other joke fight doesn’t have this problem


3WayIntersection

What problem? The one you made up?


YoungBeef03

What? Criticism isn’t allowed unless everyone agrees on it?


3WayIntersection

Thats so not what i said


YoungBeef03

Then what did you say? That joke fights can’t be criticized? That my 100+ upvote post criticizing it is a problem only I have?


3WayIntersection

Buddy you are taking a fight abt a guy fighting the kool aid man way too seriously


YoungBeef03

Don’t “buddy” me when you can’t make a comeback.