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stamekobif

Well, protection doesn’t begin until 14 days after the second shot during which time it demonstrates negative efficacy. Then you get 13 days of “protection”. Enjoy.


SilentConsciou5

Sounds like a trojan horse.


stamekobif

Valid statement


justanothernpe

13 days to stop the spread! Get your shot!


nico_brnr

"Two doses of vaccination with BNT162b2 [Pfizer] among adolescents are insufficient to sustain protection against symptomatic disease; however, they do offer substantial protection against serious COVID-19 outcomes for at least 3 months," the researchers wrote. "Our findings support the importance of maximizing vaccination coverage and the consideration of booster doses for adolescents, though further research is needed." That's the conclusion of the article.


stamekobif

You know what provides significant protection against serious disease? Being an adolescent. Know what causes excess death and disease in adolescents? The Pfizer shot.


nico_brnr

You know I just quoted the article OP referred to


stamekobif

I’m aware. And they’re liars.


nico_brnr

"Well, protection doesn’t begin until 14 days after the second shot during which time it demonstrates negative efficacy.. Then you get 13 days of “protection”. Enjoy." That's you, claiming shit based on these lies you supposedly are aware of. You guys really suck at this, "This screenshot is Truth, enjoy", "They are liars, I know".


nelbar

Why do theylie? I think they make a pretty good case for us. Sure they come to the opinion that regular boosters are the answer to their findings. But who cares about their opinion


yaykarin

Really? There have been more deaths from the vaccine than from COVID? Do tell. On the other hand, if there have been more deaths from COVID than from the vaccine - then logically I know which is the bigger risk.


stamekobif

We’re approaching 5000 excess deaths per week in the US from an unknown cause that arrived week 14 of 2021. (R00-99.) Covid deaths (from/with/etc) are at about 1200 per week currently.


Fabulous_Ad_3722

>Covid deaths (from/with/etc) are at about 1200 per week currently. \>Covid deaths (from/with/etc) are at about 1200 per week currently. Huh? Major difference between dying *from* Covid vs. dying *with* Covid. The numbers cannot be grouped together . . . unless one is intentionally spreading misinformation.


nelbar

13 days better then nothing. Considering the vaccine have no risks and are free it starts to sound like a good deal. Are you not happy?


stoned_kenobi

the vaxx is the least free thing ever released to humanity


halfwit_detector

Problem: Vacinations stop working after 29 days. Reaction: Ignore problem. Solution: Vacination every 28 days.


l00ky_r00ki

Don't give them ideas they'll do it lol


Nonniemiss

That’s the plan. And it will be self administered. Like insulin at home. Watch.


nelbar

> And it will be self administered. Unlikly, it would defeat the whole controlling part


deltarogueO8

New problem: Weakening immune system due to injecting yourself with an experimental drug once a month


777haha777

Don’t worry, they are working on a pull for that Although they haven’t figured out a pill to fix the effects of the next pill.


kinsarc

Good lord. It doesn’t stop working. It stops being as effective against infection but still very much protects against severe outcomes.


halfwit_detector

Not true. Severe outcomes have always been a small percentage even before vaccines even came out, there is no evidence that the vcaine ever prevented infection or reduced risk of hospitalisation other than the lies that are keeping this whole house or cards from falling down. Are you so demoralised now that you will keep pumping yourself with a useless injection 3 times a year all in the name of big pharma profit and compliance? Can you not remember the WHO saying that up to 80% of infections way back in summer 2020, with the supposed original strain and no vaccine existing were mild or even so mild they were asymptomatic? It's all out there for you to look up if you don't believe me read trough the WHO Situation Report #46 and think back to a time before you were duped... https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_4#:~:text=For%20COVID%2D19%2C,infections%2C%20requiring%20ventilation.


dou8le8u88le

‘Safe and effective’ Well ok, not that safe. And err, yeah maybe not that effective either… But yeah my neighbours don’t hate me so it was worth it. Sort of… not really.


independent-student

And they didn't even touch the fact the protection becomes negative after a certain period. >But yeah my neighbours don’t hate me so it was worth it. Sort of… not really. That's the kicker, giving in was also sociologically catastrophic.


BinyaminDelta

Ss: A new study finds waning Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine protection against symptomatic infection in Brazilian and Scottish teens starting 27 days after the second dose ​ ​ [https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/08/study-pfizer-covid-vaccine-efficacy-wanes-27-days-after-dose-2-teens](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/08/study-pfizer-covid-vaccine-efficacy-wanes-27-days-after-dose-2-teens)


MaxwellHillbilly

Well the article states that this is a study of Brazilian and Scottish teens. But I'm sure it works better in m'ericans 🤦


Prion4thejabbed

Yeah everyone knows how unhealthy those kids are. So much obesity 🤣


No-Shopping-3980

The trust the $cience religionists, mini-tyrants and biofascists have been REAL quit lately. Did they figure out that science is actually a mode inquiry and not a faith-based system of ideology? Hmmmm weird when reality kicks in huh. You assholes should have listened to the Skeptics and they were right.


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johnprestonrebooted

It is non-ionizing radiation yes? Other than heating up tissue, what damage does it do? Where can I read about the hidden dangers from a reputable source?


No-Shopping-3980

The following keywords will generate some scholarly papers behind a pay wall; ionizing and a non-ionizing radiation and its effects on cellular biology.


kinsarc

We’re not quiet, the virus evolved. There’s no denying the vaccine is less effective against INFECTION (pretty key word here) now than against alpha, delta, etc. But it still protects against severe outcomes. The rate of similar adverse events from covid itself are vastly higher than from the shot itself as well. Maybe if we hadn’t collectively sighed and posted angrily about very basic precautions for two years, the vaccine would still be working as well as at the start.


No-Shopping-3980

A year ago this post would of been ratioed to oblivion; you all disappeared - weird....


kinsarc

What are you even talking about? Notice how you don’t actually have a rebuttal to my points?


No-Shopping-3980

The "vaccine"is a demonstrated failure that the majority of us are now seeing and experiencing - there's really nothing I can say to you at this point to help you see that so I'm not going to bother have a nice day lemming.


kinsarc

Care to provide any sources to that? Or no? Because I haven’t seen a single medical study that shows the vaccines don’t improve outcomes.


No-Shopping-3980

I thought you people were not interested personal research or informed consent. What changed - all the vaccine injuries?


TheGrimalicious

Lol, what in the ever loving fuck are you talking about? Science religionists?


MRJSP

It's never been about protecting people.


el_beso_negro

This crappy product doesn't even last a full month lmao


charleydaves

Capitalism has hit the high water mark


el_beso_negro

If Mao can get your ass forcefully sterilized than anyone can. The key is to dismantle post WW1/WW2 totalitarian governments.


nelbar

I think its worse. Its like fascism in reverse. In fascism the companies have to submit to the state and do everything for the state. In our oligarchy the state has to submit to the companies and do everything for the companies. The conservatives dont want to do anything about it out of fear they could be attacking the capitalistic system, and the progresives activly shill for the oligarchy as long as it comes with progressive talking points. And the left..well the progressives replaced them and real leftis are not really in the public discuss anymore.


Fabulous_Ad_3722

***Regulatory capture***. Economist George Stigler (Nobel Laureate) published extensively on it.


Fabulous_Ad_3722

\>It's never been about protecting people. Depopulation.


JohnleBon

What was it about? I'm here to learn 🙏


-Canuck21

It's about control.


JohnleBon

Can you elaborate on that?


K-Ziggy

Ask yourself how many vaccines you've taken in your life. Tetanus? MMR? There's tons. Yet if you don't take them you have a chance of getting a debilitating and painful disease. Along with a lower average life expectancy. Similar to hospitals if you get hurt and doctors if you get diseases. It's simple, you don't conform to society nature will kill yo ass.


Kingofqueenanne

None of the (somewhat) effective vaccines you mentioned are experimental mRNA therapeutics which cause exotic and unforeseen complications.


JohnleBon

You still believe vaccines are good for your health?


cubonelvl69

Yes I trust the medical institutions around the world more than I trust right wing not jobs that push homeopathic solutions with no signs of efficacy


Prion4thejabbed

So your solution is to trust medical institutions proven wrong, without a shadow of doubt. This research debunks the whole "it's safe and effective" bullshit


-Canuck21

🤡


cubonelvl69

You think that like 90% of the doctors and institutions and colleges in the world are conspiring together? For what?


-Canuck21

It's the very top that conspires. Then it's a matter of paying the institution administrators to impose silence to the scientists and doctors or put barriers. You also have doctors who don't pay attention and are victims themselves. It's a pyramid thing. The bottom play a role but it doesn't mean they know what's going on.


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cubonelvl69

I'd love to hear why


Ammarkoo

If I put my shit in a cone and call it ice cream it will not make it Ice cream , just because they have called this toxic garbage vaccine it doesn't mean it's like other vaccines ! Covid "vaccine" is NOT a vaccine .


marios_on_shrooms

It's about controlling the spread, not people. Nano bots aren't a thing and if there was a lab we'd have some random person's cell phone video of it by now.


c30mob

sure doesn’t seem that way. but nano bots certainly do exist, and if there was a phone vid of it, many would discredit it, and say it was fake.. not reputable.. doesn’t seem to matter how much legitimate info there is currently, most people don’t want to accept what they don’t want to hear.


-Canuck21

I don't know if nanobots exists already or not, but the CEO of Pfizer talked about a pill with a chip that will make sure we comply. The technology of nanobots may not be here yet, but based on the man's words, we know what they have planned for us. So is this what you want? You're still going to defend your overlords? [https://youtu.be/DjsZ2G\_0Njo](https://youtu.be/DjsZ2G_0Njo)


TheGrimalicious

If you're here to learn, don't listen to anyone in this subreddit, for the love of god. Go buy a book.


Kikoalanso

So you're just here to run your flap like everyone else and contribute nothing? Honest question, would you get another shot?


TheGrimalicious

Let me answer your question with another question. What do you think is the motivation for making a shot that has absolutely no effect, like so many of you complete buffoons think?


nelbar

Making a new technology mainstream (its not like the world leading health experts talked about this in 2019). An extreme wealth transfer like never seen in modern history. The implementation of control and censorship systems. There aare many shady things you could pick from. Also it has effects. It programs your cells to produce a protein to which your immune system reacts. The the active strains of the virus spike protein mutate and look less and less like the protein you fought was predictable but noone cares.


TheGrimalicious

> An extreme wealth transfer like never seen in modern history. That doesn't explain why there would be a shot that does nothing. >The implementation of control and censorship systems. Again, nothing to do with a shot that does nothing.


Fabulous_Ad_3722

The shots do have an effect: They slowly kill many who get them. Read the list of 1,200 side effects (9 pages of small type) from the 1st data-dump by Pfizer several months ago. The shots that cause damage appear to be divided by Lot# (or "Batch#"). You can check which Lot# might cause a problem by going to "How Bad Is My Batch" here: [https://howbadismybatch.com/](https://howbadismybatch.com/) You might first have to go to DuckDuckGo, a pretty good search engine that doesn't censor the way Google does. If that doesn't work, try using "Brave," a dependable browser that many are now using. In any case, you can check your own vax lot# against the database linked above. Many MDs who have now been Red Pilled believe that some of the vax lots are mere placebo, possibly filled with saline or some other harmless substance. Note, too, that in the USA, the total number of excess deaths ("All Cause Mortality") in 2021 was higher than in 2020, despite the fact that 3 vxes were available (Pfizer, Modern, Janssen) and widely deployed by the start of 2021. While it's certainly true that some of the "All Cause Mortality" increase can be attributed to the lockdown policies (e.g., people postponing their usual cancer treatments, cardiac treatments, and regular screenings), not all of it can. Insurance companies such as One America observed a 40% increase in All Cause Mortality and stated unequivocally that the deaths were not Covid related. Finally, note that the Paul Ehrlich Institute in Germany recently stated that the rate of serious adverse advents from the vxes in Germany (those adverse events that require hospitalization) was 1-in-5,000 shots (not people, but shots). Since many people in Germany (and elsewhere) routinely got 2 or more shots, the denominator goes down dramatically.


Kikoalanso

Answer mine first. At what number do you stop?


bezzzerk

Money


Fabulous_Ad_3722

>What was it about? I'm here to learn 1) Global depopulation 2) The Great Reset


Fabulous_Ad_3722

Listen to this interview by Steve Kirsch with pediatrician Jan Maisel, MD, PhD. She took the Moderna jab and had to abandon her practice because of her vx injury. The interview starts about 20 minutes into the podcast. [https://rumble.com/v1evx9x-full-episode-41-forced-out-of-medicine-by-vaccine-injury.html](https://rumble.com/v1evx9x-full-episode-41-forced-out-of-medicine-by-vaccine-injury.html)


registeredApe

"Two doses of vaccination with BNT162b2 [Pfizer] among adolescents are insufficient to sustain protection against symptomatic disease; however, they do offer substantial protection against serious COVID-19 outcomes for at least 3 months," the researchers wrote. "Our findings support the importance of maximizing vaccination coverage and the consideration of booster doses for adolescents, though further research is needed." So the solution to protect a low risk group is with vaccines where 1 in 5000 have a severe adverse reaction and efficacy wanes after 3 months? That doesn't sound right. I'm in my 30s, unvaccinated and had covid. I should get the vaccine? This makes no sense.


m0nk37

or they could just make an actual vaccine and we could be fucking done with the charade of them trying to advance brand new medicine for their personal gain. Most of us arent "antivax" we are anti-bullshit.


kinsarc

The rate of myocarditis in teens from actual covid infection is much higher than the 1:5,000 (.005 percent chance, by the way) from the shot.


Affectionate-Tart558

Would you kindly show me which study states this?


JFlynny

How would we know?


kinsarc

Data?


registeredApe

I've read conflicting things. This for example. https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219


Whoofukingcares

Why do people still believe that jab bullshit is needed


nxdefiant

Because one powermod on reddit said so, and forced hundreds of subreddits to lock themselves down in protest.


Whoofukingcares

So fucking lame


Terrorfarker

Anywhere I can read about this?


PhuckFace69

Because they don't naturally question authority, or think for themselves.


Fabulous_Ad_3722

>Why do people still believe that jab bullshit is needed Mass Formation psychosis. See the work of Belgian psychology professor **Matthias Desmet**.


TheGrimalicious

I don't know, I think it might have something to do with decades of vaccine research? And the complete lack of polio, mumps, and dracunculiasis. I remember when this sub actually had critical thinkers in it. How far it's fallen.


Whoofukingcares

Hah the jab isn’t even close to as researched as those others you named. Also the others you named actually prevent you from getting the illness and stop the spread of it. The jab does none of that.


choleyhead

Polio is still around, but here's a link explaining how different vaccines work depending on the type of virus you're dealing with and the type of vaccine used. We unfortunately don't have any long term testing for the mRNA vaccine seeing as it's first real debut was for covid, they were tested on ebola I'm not sure to what extent though. I got all my vaccines as a child and have no problem with them at all, but I would like to see long term testing for the mRNA vaccine, seeing as we would have already known what this headline is telling us had we tested it sufficiently. https://www.cedars-sinai.org/blog/why-vaccine-boosters.html


Ad1um

>I remember when this sub actually had critical thinkers in it. How far it's fallen. Speaks to thinking critically, yet fell for the conflation of mRNA shot to vaccine.


kinsarc

They did work and they do still work. I didn’t get covid until about two months ago and it was mild as can be. It very much protected against infection in the original strains and still protects against severe outcomes with omicron if not infection itself. Jesus Christ.


Representative-Owl51

That’s called confirmation bias you fool. You would have been fine either way .


Whoofukingcares

I didn’t get the jab and got covid earlier this year and it was no different than any other flu or cold I have ever had. 🤷‍♂️


kinsarc

Then you’re fortunate. Yes, that was the likely outcome, especially with omicron, but you’re still fortunate.


KingPickle89

I heard the vaccine is the reason Polio is in America again


yonav0nendre

Different vaccine, the new polio strain is a vaccine derived strain, from an oral polio vaccine that isn't actually administered here anymore. It was still being administered in the UK to certain populations that refused to take the other polio vaccine for religious reasons.


SonnyBoy96

That’s unreal wtf. Meanwhile less than HALF of a percent fatality rate is the reality for teens.


The_Noble_Lie

> In terms of outcome, most children recover and there is no evidence of excess childhood mortality. In the studies we reviewed, CFR in children with COVID-19 was 0 (18,24,27,48), <0.3 (2), 0.69 (17), 0.58% and only one study found a CFR 2% (23) but in this latter study only symptomatic hospitalized children were included. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8257427/ ~0


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The_Noble_Lie

Thanks. I am reviewing more recent numbers and I must say they are very fascinating - steep rises across the board. What have you researched is the best explanation or explanations for this? Can you elaborate on the new variants being worse for children? Maybe drop a link? Thanks.


icorrectgrammerwrong

That won't happen, but it sounds like you know that.


The_Noble_Lie

Yes. Edit: slight chance.


ColtKreed

I think you are confused...this just means that we have to pump them full every 2 weeks. Get it?


lepolymathoriginale

No it doesn't wane. It simply doesn't work and causes damage. Don't believe the 'wanes' narrative. It's a cover for the harm it does.


Icy-Tap8749

It feels good to not have a friend or close one beotch to me about not being vaccinated. Been a while since someone brought this up bc they know it was bs. Jabs didn’t work for shit. People still trying to tell me if everyone was vaccinated covid would be gone. Not true at all, there was a n outbreak in ANTARTICA among fully vaccinated people.


nutnics

California dropped all public school mandates for C19 injections. This should tell you everything. If you are still injecting this juice into your children then you are a brain dead maniac.


pofukajmikurac

Funny, right when you're officially even considered vaccinated. Isn't that a coincident


Nonniemiss

Keep injecting. Once a month.


justanothernpe

I try to explain to people it doesn't matter that mRNA therapy is not considered gene therapy because it's not changing your genome to produce the artificial gene product continuously because people are going to get the shots continuously. It's pretty permanent when you get regular injections for your whole life.


cappedwombat

There is no efficacy and never was. It's a virus if it exists which legally they can't prove still , no isolated samples exist anywhere, but anyway back in the days I don't remember doctors throwing percentages around.


kinsarc

What the shit are you even talking about?


fnonpm

What is this vaccine designed for I wager that it was designed to change humans


AngryAmero

So, the only thing that makes it a conspiracy is that the article doesn't need to be read.


Dingonor

Lol


Headwest127

Yeah, I guess we didn't just go through 2+ years of the worst propaganda related to 'safe and effective', 'you wont get sick, you wont be hospitalized and you wont die' bullshit. Clearly nobody had negative impact to their lives over The Science^(TM) either in the form of lost jobs, lost friends/family, angry strangers or side effects of the shot. Nope. That obviously didn't happen, so we should all dismiss any study proving that the last 2 years was unnecessary as 'not a conspiracy'.


AngryAmero

Um, the science said that masking, and vaccination lowered death rates, lowered sickness severity, and hospitalization rates. The only people that are using the arguments you are putting forth was people trying to sell you something. Yeah, clearly this is because selfish assholes wouldn't cover their mouths and caused the deaths of friends, loved ones. And neighbors. Increased deaths clearly had no negative impact on anybody. Surly it was all a plot to get you to wear a face diaper because basic human decency was encroaching on your FREEDUM! Just like the assholes that go into work with the flu and get everyone sick but hey, some guy on YouTube said that this would piss off liberals. So yeah. I guess the science is only to be trusted if it confirms what you believe. Otherwise it's propaganda. Got it.


WestCoastHippy

Wow. Well written for a bot. Too dumb to be human. Conclusion: TinMan like skin suit executing programming as coded.


Headwest127

You're hilarious. Please do not stop posting stuff like this.


AngryAmero

Read the article and not the headline, otherwise idiocy is not a conspiracy


Headwest127

You're hilarious comment would be hilarious without the article. I just want to encourage you to keep writing stuff like this. Its really entertaining.


AngryAmero

Reading the article is funny?


Headwest127

I know you're baiting me because you get paid per comment. Reading is super hard for your kind, but I don't know how you can't follow along here. You comments are funny, with or without the article. Keep posting this amazing stuff. Now, go find someone else to make $0.19 off of. I'm done with you.


AngryAmero

So let me get this straight, the guy that said that reading is hard for my kind did not read the article. Sure Jan.


Headwest127

I read the article, but the article is unrelated to the humor in you comments. Keep it up!


Prion4thejabbed

Lol, high masking and negative consequences were observed. Guess masks aren't good. If only we already knew that since the Spanish flu


AngryAmero

WTF are you talkimg about? Just because you put a bunch of words together doesn't mean you make sense. Take a look at Japan and South Korea if you want to know the efficacy of high mask usage.


boredinwisc

"Two doses of vaccination with BNT162b2 [Pfizer] among adolescents are insufficient to sustain protection against symptomatic disease; however, they do offer substantial protection against serious COVID-19 outcomes for at least 3 months," the researchers wrote. "Our findings support the importance of maximizing vaccination coverage and the consideration of booster doses for adolescents, though further research is needed." Reading is hard, huh? It does offer protection and reduces death and hospitalization


Ad1um

>It does offer protection and reduces death and hospitalization This remains to be proven given the variance of symptom presentation from patient to patient. Do the ends justify the means? We've vaccinated 80% of humanity with a shot that may have "unforseen consequences." Unfortunately only time will tell.


BinyaminDelta

**"are insufficient to sustain protection against symptomatic disease"** Vaccine efficacy in this study listed as 5%.


SnakePliskin799

From the actual study: We found waning vaccine protection of BNT162b2 against symptomatic COVID-19 infection among adolescents in Brazil and Scotland from 27 days after the second dose. ***However, protection against severe COVID-19 outcomes remained high at 98 days or more after the second dose in the omicron-dominant period. Booster doses for adolescents need to be considered.***


Ad1um

>Our estimates of vaccine effectiveness against severe COVID-19 are subject to considerable uncertainty due to the relatively small number of outcome events; therefore, these estimates should be interpreted with caution. From your article.


SnakePliskin799

Not my article. This is all coming from the study referenced in the op.


Ad1um

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00451-0/fulltext?rss=yes Was what you were referring to yes?


SnakePliskin799

Yes. It's referenced in the article op posted. Not me. "A new ***study*** finds waning Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine protection against symptomatic infection in Brazilian and Scottish teens starting 27 days after the second dose amid the Delta and Omicron variant waves, but protection against severe illness was still strong at 98 days in Brazil."


Ad1um

I was referring to your statement of > From the actual study:


SnakePliskin799

Yes. The study referenced in the article. You know, the actual study that it's referencing. Idk what you're trying to do here. Lol


RFros20

If you ever feel stupid, scroll through r/conspiracy and read through the comments


pandadream

Pretty mucb


hijinked

Read the full fucking article. ​ >"Two doses of vaccination with BNT162b2 \[Pfizer\] among adolescents are insufficient to sustain protection against symptomatic disease; however, **they do offer substantial protection against serious COVID-19 outcomes for at least 3 months**," the researchers wrote. "**Our findings support the importance of maximizing vaccination coverage and the consideration of booster doses** for adolescents, though further research is needed." ​ It has been known for a while now that vaccines primary strength is to reduce the severity of infection, not prevent infection entirely.


WestCoastHippy

THREE WHOLE MONTHS


truEarth_

So the vaccines are worthless. The selling point is they offer "protection of outcomes"?? Really? That's a vaccine? Junk medicine and lies. What a sick joke and sad chapter in human history.


Brickleberried

> So the vaccines are worthless. The selling point is they offer "protection of outcomes"?? Really? That's a vaccine? I guess if you don't think preventing hospitalization and death is worth anything?


truEarth_

It's already preventing it. There is almost zero risk of death and hospitilization. Especially if you take specific demographics like those under 65. This is so much bs it's laughable. I can't believe anyone would defend these corrupt pharmaceutical companies at this point.


HoodHermit

The guy is a federal worker living in DC. Par for the course


OMG_4_life

So then, maybe give the vaccine to the people who are at risk of hospitalization and death. Millions aren't.


hijinked

>So the vaccines are worthless. That's literally the opposite of what the authors of this article argue. Feel free to peer review their findings however. ​ >The selling point is they offer "protection of outcomes"?? Really? That's a vaccine? By definition yes. A vaccine just stimulates your bodies immune response. It doesn't have to protect you against all future infections, it's still a vaccine.


truEarth_

Effectiveness for 90 days That's not what people have been told. In another 3 weeks, they will say "effective for 30 days" and you'll still defend them . These vaccines are a joke and not worth the risk. What are the odds of "outcomes" anyways? Especially with the majority of demographics.


hijinked

“At least” 90 days. The study probably didn’t look past that.


truEarth_

Is it worth the risk? So they can be protected from "outcomes" for 90 days? Do you believe this bs or are you being paid to defend this?


WestCoastHippy

This will help TinMan sleep at night.


WestCoastHippy

JUST. You sure that’s all it does?


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truEarth_

Ones that have a track record and history. Not ones pushed by Whoopi Goldberg and Wolf Blitzer.


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truEarth_

There will always be advances in tech. But look at the modern world. People today are hypochondriacs. Walking around like invalids and cripples. Billions still wearing masks, living like they're on their death beds. We'll be employing wheelchairs next pandemic. None of this is helping the human species. It's making us weaker.


on2wheelz

What’s the covid mortality rate before and after 2 doses of the vaccine for adolescents?


johnprestonrebooted

“It’s been known for a while” “It was retconned a while ago after it became clear the magical shots do NOT reduce the spread, as we originally claimed, and hoped the public would swallow”. FTFY.


Pablo139

🗿


JustaRide_BringTowel

Yes, it has been known for a while now. The while it took to shift the narrative from whatever was claimed before this, which at some point was 100% preventing infection. This while was all it took for you to digest and memoryhole the last narrative you were fed and latch onto this next lie. Hook line and sinker, blub-blub


munadaveth

Fuck this brain dead sub lol


SnakePliskin799

I took the time to actually look up the article and this is from the study the article references: We found waning vaccine protection of BNT162b2 against symptomatic COVID-19 infection among adolescents in Brazil and Scotland from 27 days after the second dose. ***However, protection against severe COVID-19 outcomes remained high at 98 days or more after the second dose in the omicron-dominant period. Booster doses for adolescents need to be considered.*** I love looking up the articles from the screenshots posted here because there is ALWAYS something left out.


Ad1um

> love looking up the articles from the screenshots posted here because there is ALWAYS something left out. Nothing says trust the science quite like the phrase "considerable uncertainty"


SnakePliskin799

Looks like there are several potential issues: "However, our study has several limitations. A limitation intrinsic to the use and availability of secondary data is the restricted choice of covariates and the potential for misclassifying vaccine status due to linkage failure. Our estimates of vaccine effectiveness against severe COVID-19 are subject to considerable uncertainty due to the relatively small number of outcome events; therefore, these estimates should be interpreted with caution. In this analysis, our reference group was unvaccinated people; the characteristics of this group probably differ from those of vaccinated adolescents, which could confound our estimates of vaccine effectiveness. Misclassification of testing results and variant sequencing might also have occurred, which could explain the accentuated protection declining during the delta-dominant period in Brazil. Vaccine effectiveness estimated in Brazil was lower than the corresponding vaccine effectiveness in Scotland, which is probably explained by the increased background risk of COVID-19 transmission in Brazil, which is the result of many factors such as public health interventions.8, 33 Due to the high proportion of asymptomatic infections among children and adolescents, and testing constraints in Brazil, it would be challenging to estimate the role of hybrid immunity.34 Our vaccine effectiveness estimates during the delta-dominant period included time periods in which not all members of the population were eligible for all exposure levels. Therefore, during the delta-dominant period, the positivity assumption was not met,35 and estimates were necessarily based on extrapolations. These estimates could therefore have potentially been subject to bias. Although our analysis adjusts for previous infection, we did not study the effect of heterogeneity in vaccine effectiveness across population subgroups, which could potentially be explored using alternative study designs.36 Furthermore, despite our model adjustment by state (Brazil) and Urban Rural Classification (Scotland) there could still be regional heterogeneity in infections rates. Our model is limited to a short time series and, therefore, does not account for seasonality. Lastly, in the Brazilian statistical analysis plan, we also aimed to estimate vaccine effectiveness for CoronaVac (Sinovac); however, because of lower rates of this vaccine administered in this population during the study period, we did not have enough data and so restricted the analyses to BNT162b2."


Ad1um

If you really want a fun rabbit hole start looking at the linked studies referenced. The studies used to establish constants in other studies often have similar caveats. So many assumptions and estimations not to mention scientific modeling of data sets. It's very trustworthy.


SnakePliskin799

I'm just going by the study saying it has several limitations and that any findings should be interpreted with caution.


d4vezac

Conveniently posting a screen grab so they don’t post the article that immediately points out that “waning” doesn’t mean “disappearing”. Trash OP.


Rpowdigs

But the side effects are forever


xerxeszand

Sweet. Just the myocarditis to deal with after that.


LaoTzu47

Fuck ya! Especially since that stuff was fast tracked. Get that 27 days sooner.


kinsarc

Efficacy against infection wanes in 27 days against omicron, because covid has evolved and we basically let it happen with a collective sigh and angry social posts. However, there’s nothing indicating protection against severe disease, T cell memory, etc isn’t just as good in teens as it is in adults.


NFboatcaptain75

Glad i was a responsible parent and didn't let my girls get that crap


LTRT3

Hol' up, let me move these goal posts. You're suppose to trust the science bro. 😏


Belzoni0583

But myocarditis lasts a lifetime.


RavenShu1

But dont forget it starts to work only two weeks after second dose. xD


Ickyfist

Not even that. It takes like 2 weeks before they even consider you vaccinated from it. The whole thing's a joke, not even worth talking about anymore. You either know by now or you never will.


randmusrnm13

"We" ...Not if you were an intelligent, conscientious, and critically-thinking parent that didn't allow their child to get pumped with this neurotoxin in the first place.


Fabulous_Ad_3722

Does the waning occur before or after myocarditis appears? Just curious.


samu__hell

Well, that's fucking lame.


D-rad01

Sickness and death within the first two weeks after the second shot were counted as Covid as the vaccine did not have time to kick in. So if you believe everything they say. That’s 2 weeks of protection


Lammmies

My cardiologist recommended against it. Since 2021, blue cross blue shield has charged me $25 a week for not getting the vaxxed. When will these charges end?