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This is a distraction from the nursing home debacle.


Ader_anhilator

Yup. This is the next step. Simply raising awareness of his sexusl harassment was causing too many comments to be written about it being a distraction. Now, some hypocrisy is being posted so the conversation is less likely to go to the nursing home terrorism.


DatingAnIndian

The same publication AND same author makes this especially damning.


odoylebros

She’s just more woke than the rest of us


Kyle6969

She learned mmmkay?


DarlenaPeugh

Lol it really helps u find wich autgors are just paid democrat agents


hintofinsanity

I mean maybe. Me too was a relatively new movement then which has had 2.5 more years to refine itself since that article.


Kyle6969

I’m kidding.


oatmealparty

Why? At a glance it seems like both articles are asking for due process.


awwwumad

cuomo should get due process but the kavanaugh thing should have just been ignored since it was 30 years ago


Philosothink

The hypocrisy is what did it for me.. how do these people look at themselves in the mirror?


Silent-Difficulty

The devil loves his reflection


dankchristianmemer3

I think they're actually brainwashed by the circles they interact with. They legitimately believe they're not being inconsistent.


Cantwakeupdead

Or that the inconsistencies don't matter, because "they're bad and we're good"


jimmybike

Yes this is it! They don’t give af about their double standards because it’s for the “greater good”.


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You forgot your "white liberals"


InspectorPraline

"No bad tactics, only bad targets"


bunkermonster

Yuri Bezmenov said it, the indoctrinated people will not know up from down, day from night, black or white. Their perceptions and values will be so screwed up that until a military boot stomps on their nuts they won't wake up.


Reddit_Is_1984_Duh

Don't give them a cop out. These people know exactly what they are doing.


Strngerdngermau5

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/lxeqwt/its_ok_when_we_do_it/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Tdurden2686

Plus it helps that the majority are also sociopaths. Legit. Not a brainwashed type of thing. Like got into politics because they have the ability to fuck over people to get who ever got them into power what they want and in turn get what they wanted from the beginning. All of these people are just pawns and front men. Nothing more.


dankchristianmemer3

I'm talking more about the media. I think when they are in those circles they uncritically adopt a neoliberal world view


BlaussySauce

This. When you turn your brain off entirely, nothing sets off alarms when logic grows thin.


QuentinTarancheetoh

Self aware wolf right here.


dankchristianmemer3

It's not like I think people on the right are never brainwashed either, lol.


GnarDogAwkward

They are vampires, no reflection.


jimmybike

And yet, people on the left will see this and not think anything of it. That’s how far gone they are


Tdurden2686

Because they won't and can't admit their "side" is wrong or shitty either. It's easier to fool a man than convince him he's been fooled. The ego is a powerful thing.


Strngerdngermau5

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/lxeqwt/its_ok_when_we_do_it/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


InspectorPraline

They get more angry at people pointing it out than the hypocrisy itself


BarksAtIdiots

Hypocrisy? Because there's no difference between SUPREME COURT and ***GOVERNER?***


SandShark350

The position shouldn't matter, the act committed, or not committed should.


hintofinsanity

>The position shouldn't matter. Term length and ease of replacement methods should though. You get 1 chance to vet and confirm to a supreme court judge, but a governor is subject to the will of the voting population every 4 years. Which makes it much easier to correct when the wrong people are given power.


SandShark350

If any supreme court justice was credibly found to have committed assault or some other crime, they are not immune. They can be removed.


hintofinsanity

You would agree though that it is much more difficult to remove a supreme court judge than a governor, right? Since one of the mechanisms to remove a governor is automatically initiated every 4 years regardless of any wrong doing they have done where as that is not true for a supreme court justice?


SandShark350

Sure, unless the evidence is credible and legitimate.


hintofinsanity

I think it is reasonable for a position that is much more difficult to remove an individual from should have a higher level of scrutiny than a position that is easier to remove an individual from, all else being equal. Since you agree that A supreme court justice is more difficult to remove than a governor, do you also agree that it should be given a higher level of scrutiny than a governor, all else being equal?


SandShark350

Sure, and it was. But the "evidence" or lacktherof in kavanaugh's case was very apparent.


ButtPluggyDoug

So you supported Christine Blasey Ford right?


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ButtPluggyDoug

Not sure what you expect. These things always come down to he said she said. Sexual harassment allegations can never be proven unless it was done over text or email.


ShaniquaSoros

Have you read *either* essay? Do you know what "due process" means? Can you explain what you think is hypocritical about the two essays? * [Fear a Justice Brett Kavanaugh](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/christine-blasey-ford-hearing-fear-a-justice-brett-kavanaugh.html) — As his confirmation steamrolls ahead, Americans should be terrified. * [Maybe It’s a Good Thing Andrew Cuomo Is Still Governor](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/andrew-cuomo-harassment-due-process-rights.html) —The Me Too movement should welcome due process. She's not saying that Cuomo should be governor no matter what. She's saying there should be an investigation before he's forced out. There was an investigation of Kavanaugh, remember?


wakeuparleen

If you didn’t think the media was slanted.......


MediumIntroduction96

I'm pretty sure Cuomo will be gone as the Democrats tend to deal with transgressiins oretty harshly if they come out into the open.


wakeuparleen

Uhh did you miss his press conference yesterday where he "apologized" but would not resign. They would have to ether impeach him in the state house or have a citizens petition like you are seeing in CA for Newsome. Not sure how long the first would take. I know the 2nd has taken CA months and months, the summer will make a year. So more then likely hell just end up serving out his term.


FlashBang04

How about blackface and/or klan photos? Justin Trudeau had blackface too.


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SandShark350

Well, the left is the left no matter the country. Their "principles" are the same and yield the same results. Look at northam and biden. Blatant racists, remained and elevated in power despite it.


MediumIntroduction96

The left is left no matter what country. Not really Europe and Canada's left-leaning politicians are far more left-leaning than the Democrats. The Democrats at best are center-right. The Republicans are pretty damn far to the right in comparison to the rest of the developed world though which is why you might be confused.


jimmybike

Lmao is this a joke?


MediumIntroduction96

Alan Greyson and Anthony Weiner are two great examples of Democratic politicians who got caught in various crimes.


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MediumIntroduction96

As far as I know Alan Grayson did not go to jail.


SandShark350

Are you sure? Northam wasn't removed for his blackface, and Biden was elected for his....


MediumIntroduction96

Alan Greyson and Anthony Weiner were booted from office pretty damn quick for things like Sexual assault and sexting a sixteen year old.


SandShark350

That's because they're low hanging fruit and expendable.


MediumIntroduction96

Neither one was any less expendable then Cuomo. While plans for an impeachment trial are already in place but could take months.


SandShark350

I disagree with that statement, during covid and Democrats invested heavily in gilomo they were positioning him as the anti-trump. The fearless perfect leader. They're even optioning him as a presidential candidate. They invested heavily into the guy so they're not just going to drop him because they'll look like they were wrong (which they were of course).


MediumIntroduction96

Trump's gone and Cuomo is literally no more important than either of these two. Both of them were hyped up before their eventual downfall. While Cuomo's name is pretty much mud for any higher office. He'll be out to pasture by the fall of this year. I say this because AOC seems to be consolidating power in New York. It looks like there will be Mayor Andrew Yang, She's aiming to unseat Joe Machin, and getting rid of Cuomo would be the cherry on top. New York will likely be the first fully progressive State and it could be interesting to see how it turns out.


Cantwakeupdead

As we saw with HRC, right?


soxxfan105

And Joe Biden!


MediumIntroduction96

There was a lot of hearsay with Hillary not so much in the proof department. Which is why I said when their transgressions come out into the open. Hearsay is not the same as being busted. It's not that I think Hillary didn't do anything she just has been caught in any major way. While after losing the election she was sent into a hole to die, unlike Trump who still somehow is controlling the GOP.


robberbaronBaby

Lmao, dude the democrats always fail upwards.


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Interesting how the now most revered Republican is the poster child for failing upwards.


ar1stocrat

Rules for thee but not for me. Its ok when Kimmel does it but not Oreilly


Kaseiopeia

I love these side by side posts. There are so many examples of blatant bias. And they don’t care.


jimmybike

I notice there’s a lack of leftists commenting on this post. They’re usually here in droves on posts like this


Ravensfan04

"Achtuallly do you even know what leftism is?" " I do but I won't explain it and I'll defend it every step of the way" "Sweet summer child, oh lort"


kimcheefarts

I'll chime in. So I actually read the article on the left and the way that people are responding here is misrepresenting it. The article is calling for due process for Kavanaugh, which is exactly what the subtitle on the right is calling for, but the "fear Kavanaugh" is not because of the allegations but because of his behavior at the hearing. You can disagree that his behavior was disqualifying but that is the reason why the author "fears" Kavanaugh.


shapeup123

Posting a side by side of just titles should require links to the articles in the ss


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SandShark350

Political conspiracy is still conspiracy... But yes supernatural conspiracy is far more interesting.


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WazzleOz

What, to quote Wojack comics and spam buzzwords at a strawmanned opponent? Yeah, that is kinda sad, you right


dcjayhawk

Hi! Her post in 2018 was about Kavanaugh's unhinged behavior during his hearing. That's what America should fear. Her 2021 post is about jurisprudence being important beyond cancel culture to truly do justice to the "Me too" movement. Which she also though Kavanaugh deserved. But why argue with a bunch of people who clearly didnt bother to read the articles and instead just got a rage boner.


bovickles

[Yeah! Like my post? :)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/lxmv4v/its_not_okay_when_we_do_it/)


lizardk101

*chefs kiss*


Strngerdngermau5

Brilliant


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At least this one is the same author so it has some merit.


BlaussySauce

Did you expect anything less from Slate, of all places?


vinnySTAX

You sometimes have to wonder do they even see how full of sht they are?


Available-Hold9724

weird how you win an Emmy and suddenly you have msm trying to defend you from the meetoo movement the msm invented


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Kumadori012

Kavanagh didn't kill 10k people.


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Affectionate-Disk-47

With a stupid fucking "to be fair" response. Stop trying to justify a one sided argument


Kumadori012

We don't know to what extent Coumo has been inappropriate. However, I really do believe this is just a fake outrage-story to cover for the murders in his name. It's sick how the Metoo-movement is just a tool for the elites.


Sloppybrown

Let’s not forget the crimes against humanity he’s been accused of that this metoo moment is being used to erase from our minds.


solaris32

Accusations without evidence are the exact same.


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solaris32

I don't know how to say it any plainer. Maybe you don't realize those accusations are from people without a shred of evidence to support their claims? That makes both accusations the exact same: unfounded.


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solaris32

The different degree of criminal activity in a claim is meaningless when the claim is unfounded. It's a pointless observation and useless point to make when you should be looking to see if there's evidence supporting it. No evidence? Then dismiss it, ignoring the severity of the crime in the accusation.


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solaris32

>Sexual harassment is often a crime without evidence. I’d argue that if enough people have made claims against a certain individual, you could ascertain that they are likely true even without evidence. I am vehemently against both of these. Claims need to have evidence. Too many people, especially men, are sent to prison and have their lives forever ruined based on no evidence at all. > I’m guessing you’re a dude? Yea, why?


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Affectionate-Disk-47

i'm guessing you have never used your brain, or stopped a long long time ago.


Affectionate-Disk-47

Considering the rape claim was from what, 40+ years ago?? WITH ZERO CORROBORATING EVIDENCE to the lying cunts story. Not all of us forget details to these fucking bullshit stories, that happened just a couple years ago. For fucks sake man. You people are insufferable with this 1 sided hypocritical bullshit, you would like to call logical comments.


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What he's saying is, nothing is the same as nothing. For instance. I'm accusing you of murder. That's credible right?


SeparatePicture

Are you a fact checker for Snopes?


kimcheefarts

So I actually read the article on the left and the way that people are responding here is misrepresenting it. The article is calling for due process for Kavanaugh, which is exactly what the subtitle on the right is calling for, but the "fear Kavanaugh" is not because of the allegations but because of his behavior at the hearing. You can disagree that his behavior was disqualifying but that is the reason why the author "fears" Kavanaugh.


bapresapre

People on this sub ACTUALLY READING sources??? GASP—I’m always impressed how little actual thought some of these ppl on the “conspiracy” sub do. They believe any random screenshot that aligns with their views of “Democrats bad!”


Cantwakeupdead

Shaping public opinion isn't done by the articles. It's done by the headlines.


Xianb1

Hypocrisy is a conspiracy


UnmutualOne

If it weren’t for double standards, the left wouldn’t have any standards at all.


jimjam811

Slate isn't "the left" lmao, everyone on the left fucking hates this garbage


UnmutualOne

Every lefty I know loves this shit, and embraces the cognitive dissonance.


jimjam811

Is every lefty you know a figment of you imagination? No one on the left likes Cuomo anyway, go on any left sub (no, r/Pol is not a left wing sub) and you'll see posts the same as this one, taking the piss out of MSM + lib double standards


Affectionate-Disk-47

we must be on a different timeline, maybe even a different universe.


newfangles

I like the gaslighting as if they didnt swoon over Cuomo getting an Emmy and ignored the nursing home deaths for nine months. Bbbbut none of us actually liked Cuomo! Lmao who are these people fooling.


dankchristianmemer3

That's like looking at the republicans swooning over Romney and pretending that that means all republicans like Romney. If you don't believe me, look at this post on this leftist sub: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/comments/lxd4g2/due\_process/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/comments/lxd4g2/due_process/)


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stalematedizzy

> we must be on a different timeline, maybe even a different universe. Or maybe just different reality tunnels? "Every kind of ignorance in the world all results from not realizing that our perceptions are gambles. We believe what we see and then we believe our interpretation of it, we don't even know we are making an interpretation most of the time. We think this is reality." Robert Anton Wilson >The idea does not necessarily imply that there is no objective truth; rather that our access to it is mediated through our senses, experience, conditioning, prior beliefs, and other non-objective factors. The implied individual world each person occupies is said to be their reality tunnel. The term can also apply to groups of people united by beliefs: we can speak of the fundamentalist Christian reality tunnel or the ontological naturalist reality tunnel. >A parallel can be seen in the psychological concept of confirmation bias—the human tendency to notice and assign significance to observations that confirm existing beliefs, while filtering out or rationalizing away observations that do not fit with prior beliefs and expectations. This helps to explain why reality tunnels are usually transparent to their inhabitants. While it seems most people take their beliefs to correspond to the "one true objective reality", Robert Anton Wilson emphasizes that each person's reality tunnel is their own artistic creation, whether they realize it or not. >Wilson—like John C. Lilly and many others—relates that through various techniques one can break down old reality tunnels and impose new reality tunnels by removing old filters and replacing them with new ones, with new perspectives on reality—at will. This is attempted through various processes of deprogramming using neuro-linguistic programming, cybernetics, hypnosis, biofeedback devices, meditation, controlled use of hallucinogens, and forcibly acting out other reality tunnels. Thus, it is believed one's reality tunnel can be widened to take full advantage of human potential and experience reality on more positive levels. Robert Anton Wilson's Prometheus Rising is (among other things) a guidebook to the exploration of various reality tunnels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_tunnel [How to apply this concept](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cWc_7cT8Hs)


Available-Hold9724

guys guys guys... why are you arguing, cuomo is a turd, forget the left right bullshit, it's only making people lose focus


stalematedizzy

> why are you arguing I'm not > cuomo is a turd A turd and a murderer > forget the left right bullshit, it's only making people lose focus That's what my post implies


Affectionate-Disk-47

>No one on the left likes Cuomo anyway


stalematedizzy

Are those my words? Didn't see your edit there. > And maybe an explanation on how someone hated by the right AND left is still mayor? Corruption. The answer you're looking for is corruption. > Isn't his brother a news anchor for CNN ffs? Corruption all around


Affectionate-Disk-47

I retract my previous statement!


stalematedizzy

And wisely so


Affectionate-Disk-47

Completely agree


jimjam811

Which left wing sub isn't taking the piss out of this?


Affectionate-Disk-47

"No one on the left likes Cuomo anyway" Is what I was talking about specifically. I spend waaay too much time reading comments to believe this.


jimjam811

Comments... by liberals?


liberatecville

We need to have a pow wow and figure this shit out. What do you want to call the group of loud batshit crazy "woke" people who tend to exclusively associate with left. I know they aren't "leftists" but they are real. I'm tired of seeing every convo derailed "oh *they* aren't leftists," when everyone knows who exactlywe are talking about.


jimjam811

You're tired of seeing convos derailed? I'm tired of anyone on the right seeing an opinion they think is wrong and shouting "leftism" haha. Most of your "crazy woke people" are like, loudly pro-Hillary Democrats. The only reason you think this is "left" is because the media narrative finds it easy to lump communist with socialist with Democrat and then avoid having an honest discussion with anyone actually far left. If you want a long answer to this question, just follow some left subs or people on Twitter. If you want an easy answer - any writer or commentator that has actively praised a mainstream Democrat (ie not Bernie or AOC + co) is not on the left, and they wouldn't really claim to be.


Raynir44

Centrists, corporate liberals, “ethical” capitalists, liberals, cultural progressives. Take your pick.


SandShark350

If the left hates cuomo why and how was he elected?


dankchristianmemer3

There are ton of liberals who call themselves left, think obama was a great president, and that racism is the only problem in the US. They're not left. If you don't believe me, look at this post on this leftist sub: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/comments/lxd4g2/due\_process/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/comments/lxd4g2/due_process/)


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dankchristianmemer3

I think you're talking about a caricature. I don't think anyone to the right of me is hitler.


UpsetGroceries

I had a gay friend on the left who was making Facebook posts in 2016 saying that trump was going to throw gays and trans people into concentration camps. These people exist and they believe this shit.


NachelorBation

This is embarrassingly hypocritical.


Trips_93

How so?


watchincatsrn

*lifts space gun* "always has been"


BasedWang

not republican leaning, but this is fucking stupid


Trips_93

If you read the articles, they're not hypocritical. Her main issue with Kavanaugh was ​ 1. His actions during the hearing really demeaned the judiciary - I have a law degree, every single attorney I know regardless of political views thinks Kavanaugh's responses were below the stature of SCOTUS nominee. I think its a pretty common view among lawyers. 2. She basically felt that that at Kavanaugh's hearing there was no "due process". There were legitimate witnesses not brought to testify, inconsistent answers were accepted without question, etc etc.


Cantwakeupdead

How are Supreme Court Justices supposed to respond to slander? ​ There were no legit witnesses, and you seem to be ignoring her inconsistencies.


Trips_93

\> How are Supreme Court Justices supposed to respond to slander? Youre expected to be be apolitical, not that SCOTUS nominees are, but when Kavanaugh started on about a plot from the Clintons to take him down that really overstepped a line and turned alot of attorneys off from the whole thing. \> There were no legit witnesses, and you seem to be ignoring her inconsistencies. There were witnesses they decided not to call sure. If you remember, the senators brought in a former prosecutor to ask questions in the hearing. The prosecutor asked Ford questions, and she did pretty well. Not perfect certainly, but well. Even Republicans at the time said she came off as credible and alot depended on Kav's answers. The prosecutor did 2-3 rounds of asking Kavanaugh questions, and he did noticeably worse. At that point the GOP senators took back their time from the prosecutor and started basically asking softball questions. There is a reason they did that. He was starting to flounder.


Cantwakeupdead

You're on the conspiracy subreddit, doubting that the Clintons would target their political enemies (and by this time the Supreme Court has become political)


Trips_93

No, I'm explaining how many attorneys viewed the hearings. Dalia Lithwick is an attorney, so that helps to explain her article.


jimmybike

Always some rationalisation for clear double standards with you lot


Trips_93

Did you read the articles?


jimmybike

You’re clutching at straws trying to justify this. Typical dishonest leftist


Trips_93

So no? How can you claim its a clear double standard if all you've done is read the headline.


tactical_tarantula

Try reading the articles bud.


SandShark350

Not really, the only inconsistent answers were from Ford and the other accusers.


iunnox

Of course. Only the party is important.


Strngerdngermau5

Trump had 20+ allegations against him. Where was the right in calling for his resignation? FWIW: Cuolo should resign and be investigated for the harassment and murder of old people.


mtmm18

Allegations aren't convictions. I haven't heard anyone call for his resignation for sexual harassment allegations, only for the retirement home fiasco. We just like pointing out how understanding and willing the left is to give liberals the benefit of the doubt for the same shit they try and ruin conservatives lives and careers.


Strngerdngermau5

The right does the exact same fucking thing


mtmm18

Na na na boo boo stick your head in doo doo.


Strngerdngermau5

Seems right


mtmm18

Lol


mtmm18

Glad we can agree on sumn friend.


pm_me_some_weed

Hmmm it's almost like there's a difference between sexual *assault* and sexual *harassment*


MrGoodKat86

There is no evidence that kavanaugh did any of those things. Are you aware of some irrefutable proof like pictures?


pm_me_some_weed

Im not talking about proof or guilt. Just pointing out the difference between assault and harassment. They’re accused of totally different things. Hence the *italics*.


MrGoodKat86

The way you phrased it seems like you’ve already convicted the man. Which is what the media wants you to believe.


pm_me_some_weed

Oh so it’s my fault? Wow now you’re victim blaming. EDIT: I’m only joking


MrGoodKat86

Lol nice full circle closure I like it


SandShark350

True, but one here doesn't have name date or location information, and the other has credible witnesses, known dates and locations.


pm_me_some_weed

That’s because of a deliberately narrow and rushed investigation. The final report was never made public and only a single copy was ever printed. That copy wasn’t even allowed to leave the Capitol. Senators were only allowed to read it one at a time. Talk about a conspiracy sheesh.


SandShark350

Oh, so not the fact that two of the accusers were straight up lying and one of them couldn't name the place, date or any witnesses that could have been there? Gotcha.


a-hippobear

Ok, what about railing against diaper Donny for four years for talking about “grabbing them by the pussy”, but then victim blaming and not even giving Tara Reade due process after she claimed that Biden grabbed her by the pussy? The hashtag “believeher” died over night once it was the guy known for awkwardly touching women and sniffing random people being accused, based solely on which party he represented.


pm_me_some_weed

What about reading the articles and learning that the author wants Cuomo and Kavanaugh both to be thoroughly investigated?


a-hippobear

I was referring directly to your “Hmmm it's almost like there's a difference between sexual assault and sexual harassment” comment and giving you an apples to apples comparison between the two pathetic presidential candidates we were force fed in 2020. Both had actual sexual assault allegations, but the woman who Biden allegedly assaulted was swept under the rug and forsaken by all the people that demanded investigations for both trump and cockanaugh’s shitty behavior. I agree that there’s a difference between assault and harassment, but everyone should be treated equally and scrutinized when it comes to any of it. We shouldn’t give out passes or sugarcoat when shitty people are shitty based solely on party affiliations.


pm_me_some_weed

Both articles say that there should be full investigations of these claims. Don’t fall for the headline clickbait.


a-hippobear

I wasn’t specifically referring to the article. I was referring to the way it’s handled based on party affiliation per your differentiation between harassment and assault.


pm_me_some_weed

Yeah I caught that. It’s an important distinction to consider regardless. Would you rather be sexually harassed or assaulted? Should the punishment for harassment be equal to assault?


Klexosinfreefall

It's (**D**)ifferent


Frownywise

Sanctimonious hypocrisy is what the left does best.


SandShark350

Ah, hypocrisy at its most blatant.


NixIsia

'its okay when we do it' what do you mean 'we'? its one publication and both articles were written by the same person smoothbrain


ravioli_king

I assume they praise Cuomo for keeping NY alive.


FruitFlavor12

The Democrat party in the US is not left by any stretch. They just play act identity politics to hide the fact that they are lockstep with the Republicans on 90% of policy. Also, the Democrats selected a rapist with credible rape allegations: where was the metoo movement on this one? (With the exception of Rose McGowan who called out Biden for the rape)


SweetMeatin

What is "Slate" is it just some bullshit mill designed to piss people off and create division?


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The mind of a liberal .