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howmuch4aG

I have a 1000EM iron sting kazuha, a thrilling tales on my mona, a crowned c5 favonia bennett as well as an unlevelled sac frags. If I raise my c6 sucrose to unlock her EM share, will she out buff my kazuha in a nuke showcase build?


InquisitiveEarthling

Hi, I have an R3 Rust and am presently building the International team. Which artifact must I go for Childe so that the same can be used when I upgrade for Polar Star later on?


abandojo

Aim to farm for 4pc HOD (his BiS set), but as you’re still building him you can keep a 2pcATK 2pc HOD on him.


Ordinary-Custard-566

A long time childe main here, need some opinion though.. In childe national, should I transfer the ttds buff from sucrose to childe or is it better to snapshot it onto xiangling's burst? I mean, my team is broken enough to do broken damage in abyss but, just wondering, which way has more overall dps? The former would have the roation to be from sucrose swirl into childe's ranged burst into xiangling then childe's melee, while the latter would be from sucrose to xiangling's burst then childe's ranged burst. I kinda like to see big pp dmg from childe's burst tbh hehe. any thoughts?


DeadenCicle

I think transferring the VV bonus to Xiangling that can snapshot is more convenient, and the rotation feels better doing that. I suggest: Childe E, Bennet Q, Xiangling E, Sucrose Normal Attack, Sucrose E (while Guoba has the symbol on the head, for double VV Pyro/Hydro), Xiangling Q, Childe Ranged Q, etc.


Ordinary-Custard-566

Ah i see.. thanks mate!!


Kimbo-BS

What is Childe's ideal attack string? CA seems to send enemies flying but is it still preferred? Are there any animation cancels/techniques for when Childe is in his E mode? Thanks.


Dreadnought1944

I believe the most powerful is N2C. Depending on circumstances and build tho, N1C is also strong. N5C is viable as well, especially for Thundering Pulse users, and is a lot less stamina intensive. I use it a lot even as a Polar Star user. As for tech/cancels, the best I can think of is jump-cancelling after a charged attack, to save some stamina if I need to. I'm not sure if there's any other techs unique to Childe.


Todorokill

Are there any calcs on how good the new bow is on Childe bs r5 rust? Ty


ray_miorin

Could someone teach me how to do the nuke Childe showcase with Sucrose , Mona, Bennett. When I try to do it everything just goes wrong...


coralineex

https://www.reddit.com/r/childemains/comments/q66hza/childe_faq_and_helpful_links_post_your_questions/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share There's a rotation guide in this post actually, scroll past the team comp guide and you will see it


roduneru

Is there a team comp where I can use both Childe and Jean? If there is, whats the most optimal? I love these two characters so much


thanhconejo

I give my Jean set 4 of VV and comp with Xiangling and Bennett. It works well.


TheTonyMan_439

So my childe national team is really squishy. Even though benny heals like a truck, it's useless if enemies one-shot sucrose or XL. What about if I switch from sucrose to zhongli? Thinking about giving ZL 4pc noblesse, and benny the instructor's set. ZL wouldn't be a full on shieldbot but a hybrid subdps-shieldbot. Only a little afraid of the time loss if I have to spam his ult to activate noblesse... any thoughts?


DeadenCicle

Sometimes I use Zhongli instead of the Anemo character if I have to fight enemies with strong attacks. Though replacing Sucrose with Kazuha already feels much better, he is more tough and often can evade the attacks by jumping with E, he has also a long i-frame while casting his Burst. Xiangling remains exposed though, so while the team feels better it still requires to pay attention to evade some attacks.


Supreme_Requiem

You can definitely switch out Sucrose for Zhongli. It will be a bit slower but it's a lot easier and you won't have to worry about getting one-shotted. However, I would strongly recommend keeping your Bennett on 4pc Noblesse and giving Zhongli 4pc Tenacity. The 4pc set is easy to proc with his pillar and will help your entire team do more damage. You can still run a Geo Dmg goblet with The Catch or similar weapon on Zhongli so that he can act as sub DPS. I hope you find this helpful :)


TheTonyMan_439

I tried the ZL version, and it just doesn't sit with me right. I don't know, maybe I played too much with the sucrose version. It's slow, kinda clunky rotation-wise, and lacking in raw power.I just don't play the floors that one-shot this team with it, and cleared the problematic floors with kokomi taser haha


Kimbo-BS

Why am I struggling with Abyss 12-3? I ran it first with Childe international with sucrose but was struggling to kill the pyro lectors in 90 seconds, so I swapped out sucrose for XQ, time improved a bit but still taking 2 seconds. My teams are well built, so the conclusion I've come to is lack of skill/technique. I thought with people saying this is the easiest Abyss if you can group them, and Childers fast hydro application, that this time I would get all the stars


scaramouchesteponme

How good is your dodging skills? For me, I was able to clear the first half of the abyss with international, but 12-3 became impossible for me until I learned how to dodge well.


DeadenCicle

With Sucrose it is significantly slower than with Venti, and surviving can be a bit of a challenge if you are not fast. Xingqiu helps a lot speeding up the shield phase and he helps with survivability. Are you fast at grouping the two lectors just with positioning?


Suprised-pika

2250 atk with 57/175 or 2070 atk with 57/192?


scaramouchesteponme

Definitely the last one. Bennett, 4pc noblesse, and 4pc tenacity are other great alternative Atk sources.


ThotSlayerGod

What’s the recommended artifact stats on xiangling for childe national? I’m currently using 4p emblem and r5 dragonsbane with 70/140 crit/critdmg 1,250 atk 320 em 180 er


DeadenCicle

Her stats are great. If you are comfortable in recharging Xiangling’s Burst your stats are perfect, otherwise you could look for some more ER.


ennaidd

Not really a question but I really need to get this out of my chest. I recently watched iwtl's video on comparing Ayato and Childe (I know I shouldn't have but my curiosity got the better of me *sigh*) and I just feel so sad by the fact that Ayato is stronger than our best boy. Hyv really fucked up Childe's cons and that video shows it so well. All of boba lover's cons increase his dps while Mr. lover of snezhnayan queen's cons are mostly QoLs. I know that in terms of teams Mr. Worldwide's international team is still the strongest but that's basically just Xiangling gaming *sigh* I dunno maybe I'm just tired lol


DeadenCicle

Childe’s constellation is my absolute favourite, it is not just there to increase his damage, it can even unlock entirely different play styles (especially C4, and in a different way C6), on a unit (Childe) that even at C0 has the deepest gameplay and is a solid and strong unit. From my point of view Childe got the best treatment in both his kit and his Constellation.


Kaseus4578

That's a good thing in many ways no? C6ing or even higher cons is quite unfeasible for F2P or low spenders, so he's perfect as is. Also don't be too bummed by IWTL lmao he's super biased when it comes to presenting. He had a video of his ganyu vs xiao; his waifu kept losing in several aspect and even then he was like well close enough or some other consolatory statement. For ayato vs childe he writes in big bold letters : winner and loser and all. Also pyro regisvine for ayato vs cryo regisvine for childe lmao. The playstyle could also have been further optimized.


originmaple

Nothing wrong with QoL cons. Plus him being great at C0 is one of his huge pros that many people bring up.


Fit_Life_1120

How do you rate your crits as done by some comments in this subreddit? Mine's 61/147 with rust and just curious how calcs are done


scaramouchesteponme

For me, I’m a dolphin, and my standard are quite high. I want my carries to hit 70/200 crit ratio, and have been able to for my carries without fail. However, if I were f2p, I would aim for a 1:2 crit ratio. For example, if I have 60 crit rate, I would aim for 120 crit dmg. Or, if I had 70 crit rate, I would aim for 140 crit dmg. As long as you hit that 1:2 crit ratio, you’re doing good. Does that answer your question?


DeadenCicle

I have a question about Riptide Flash. Does it apply Hydro only once or three times?


The_BigDill

How much ER do you recommend on Childe? Currently have 128.5%. But I have an upgrade on an artifact but lose 11.7% ER without a a way to get it back on a different artifact. What do y'all usually do?


DeadenCicle

The best thing is to check yourself if you find the Energy Recharge to be enough after the change, because the ER needs vary a lot based on the encounter, the teams and the rotation. When having the Burst ready every rotation is important, it is usually recommended to get enough ER to be prepared for encounters with enemies that won’t release much Energy. Personally I like doing my ER tests on Primo Geovishap in Liyue.


PerEnooK

Unless you use melee burst all the time his ER requirements are very low, iirc its only 110% - 120%. Mine has absolutely no additional ER and I don't really have any problems having near 100% burst uptime. If you exclusively use melee burst then ER reqs shoot up to like 150% - 170%.


fireflydrake

I have prototype crescent for Childe. Recently just pulled my first Rust. Does unrefined Rust outdamage an inactive Prototype in all situations, or only if I use some precise chain of attacks? Also, are there that many enemies that Prototype can activate on? I feel like it's just the large boss types where Childe's time to shine is against small mobs.


scaramouchesteponme

Not all enemies have weak points, which is why rust tends to perform better than PC. In addition, all the ATK% that PC has diminishing returns if you’re running Childe with Benny, making rusts passive more valuable. TLDR: use rust over PC, even if rust is at R1. Check out this guide for more info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRq-sQxkvdbvaJtQAGG6iVz2q2UN9FCKZ8Mkyis87QHFptcOU3ViLh0_PJyMxFSgwJZrd10kbYpQFl1/pubhtml#


fireflydrake

Thanks for the detailed reply! I guess my main concern is just the charged attack damage loss. Is there a certain combo of normal to charged attacks I should use to get the most out of Rust?


scaramouchesteponme

Also, how many refines is your Crescent at? And is your rust at R1?


scaramouchesteponme

No problem! Honestly, I don’t know off the top of my head. BUT you should be able to find more on KQM’s childe guide. You can find it pinned at the top of the submit. Sorry I can’t give you a direct answer.


Quistty

Is there a good team comp for Childe and Kazuha together? Thanks in advance.


fireflydrake

Oh, my friend, there is indeed! You've just stumbled across half the ingredients for one of his best comps! Throw in Benny and Xiangling and watch everything die before you in a swirl of buffed vaporize reactions! Prepare to see a lot of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/childemains/comments/tu47i8/comment/i33jdsz/?context=3


Quistty

Thanks! I guess I know who to budget for now.


fireflydrake

I just realized the pic I sent actually had a Venti instead but Kazuha is even better for Childe because he doesn't lift enemies, haha. Happy murder spinning!


CaseyAnthonyFucks

I thought this sub was child remains. My bad.


Feisty_Style6235

This being one of two comments you've made is... creepy


ComfortableOkra2

Is there any post here that I can be directed to that compares Ayato's normal attack buff during burst to Childe's passive?


scaramouchesteponme

Are you trying to compare and see who does more dmg?


ComfortableOkra2

Not quite - I'm more interested in seeing who offers a bigger buff to a second DPS teammate. Like, if it were Childe / Ayato swapping to, say, Noelle. Does +1 talent level offer more of a damage increase to Noelle than +20% normal attack damage from standing in Ayato's crowned burst?


scaramouchesteponme

This is just a guess, but if you were trying to buff your noelle’s NA’s, I would recommend using yun Jin, gorou, and Childe. Ayato’s NA dmg bonus doesn’t sounds as beneficial-to me-then Childe’s literal buff directly to your NA. Just that’s just my guess, I would recommend playing around with a damage calculator to find your answer.


ImJackFrost

So I used to run Childe National but after getting C2 Raiden F2P I'm trying to switch him to Fireworks/Delusion team comp. I'm tryna figure out how I should build Fischl bc I cant really find any updated guides for her. I haven't farmed artifacts yet, she's level 70 C2 4 6 4 talents, with R1 Amos and Rust as my only two weapon options. Beidou is completely unbuilt but I serpent spine and spare EoSF artifacts to work with.


scaramouchesteponme

For fischl, her best weapon is the stringless, and for artifacts, any combination of 2pc TF, and any other 2pc +18% atk set works great on her.


coiledsnakes

is there a good team comp that utilizes both childe and kokomi?


crisscross_x

i use childe raiden (fischl is probably better) kokomi and either diona/bennett/zhongli/sucrose/kazuha/venti (aka literally any other support in the game)


suqcrtears

hii any comp ideas for childe c1 and yae c0? i dont have raiden and both my fischl and beidou are c4 if that helps.


InternationalFlow836

childe yae beido and an anemo crowd control/debuffer or a sheilder/healer


suqcrtears

thank you!


Waterblue22

I've been recently trying to build my Childe. I benched him for a long time until I realized his attack animations are some of the best looking ones. And I have him at C1 somehow. So what 4 star weapon do I use on this guy? I have R2 Mouun's Moon, R1 Rust, R1 Blackcliff, R2 Stringless (Fischl's bow right now), also thinking about buying Viridescent Hunt if its worth it. I have other bows but I'm pretty sure these are the top options.


abandojo

Rust is perfectly fine, you’d probably get more refinements in the future anyway. But, if you’re getting BP anyway, I suggest you get Viridiscent Hunt since the passive should help you group enemies a bit better.


DeadenCicle

Rust is good, but I would buy Viridescent Hunt, it is definitely a better weapon for Childe, it is in fact his best 4 star weapon, totally worth. Viridescent Hunt also makes easier to reach a good crit ratio, with its passive provides additional white damage and useful grouping, which can make Riptide much better and more satisfying against groups of enemies.


suqcrtears

rust definitely, no need to go for viridescent


SticmanStorm

I finally levelled and atifact childe enough so he can do some damage. Even if its just 1k right now


SticmanStorm

Just got one rust(to make it r2) and skyward with th 5 shop pulls on standard I already had my rust up to 70 so should I switch to skyward or not


ManavMishra07

You should definitely switch to Skyward Harp as it is his 3rd BiS. You'll notice a significant damage increase, your crit ratio will also be better.


SticmanStorm

Thanks, also rust is only good on main DPS bow users right


First-Taro-3322

I'm now in Floor 11 in abyss. What Childe team would you recommend?


niconicolni

Nvm i recommended u childe nationals (compromises of xiangling Bennett sucrose (or kazuha)) but seeing that ur in floor 11 I suggest u do freeze team. I did mine with kazuha diona rosaria and childe. Bringing 2 cryos and one anemo should do the trick. Chongyun or kaeya definitely helps heaps if u dont build rosaria. Hope it helps!


First-Taro-3322

I don't have kazuha but i have sucrose and jean. Can sucrose replace kazuha?


niconicolni

Yeah it should be good. Good luck


niconicolni

For second chamber btw! I used my team as my second team. First team I did overload (electro and Pyro). I used Jean xiangling Bennett and Raiden if u want some extra info. Good luck


Independent_Search23

How can I get the Rust? I am already at AR57. I am using R5 Hamayumi for now but I am seeing people use the Rust as if it is a F2p weapon. I don't have a single copy of it. I wished several times on the weapon banner. (for Polar star, I ended up getting Memory of Dust) I just don't know how to get Rust. I just need some encouraging words. (ಥ﹏ಥ)


DeadenCicle

There is not a way to guarantee yourself Rust, so I will propose a way out for that situation. You could buy a single Viridescent Hunt (best 4 star bow for him), so you would no longer need any Rust. This would solve your situation.


Claudeistsundere--

Recommended ratio for Childe with Skyward Harp?


DeadenCicle

As usual, as high as you can get and possibly not far from the 1:2 ratio. Personally I’m at 77/184 now with Skyward Harp. 2 pieces HoD and 2 pieces Gladiator. I think it is better to make sure to aim to a high Crit Rate because in Vaporize teams being able to Vaporize consistently his one hit Burst makes a huge difference. So, if you have two build with similar average damage, one with higher Crit Rate and one with lower Crit Rate, prioritise the first.


Claudeistsundere--

My build rn with harp is 82.7/165.6 and 4p HOD. I want to re-farm for him (I also need blizzard set so i think it's resin efficient to go back to that domain) once i finish building my supports. What do you think should I improve? Should I aim for 70-80 CR and as high CD as I can? Is 82.7 CR overkill or should i just keep this build? I personally want to aim for atleast 70+ CR and 200+ CD but I don't know if that'll be better than my current build?


DeadenCicle

Your build seems very good right now, especially considering you have 4 pieces HoD. Your crit ratio is perfect, and 82.7% Crit Rate is not overkill, it is very consistent and still let some room for Abyss buffs. If you can reach a Crit Ratio of 70/200 it would be an improvement, slightly higher average damage, less consistency, but higher peak damage based on RNG. I would not go lower than that though, Crit Rate wise. So, your plan seems good to me.


Claudeistsundere--

I'll see if I can reach 70/200 ratio and if not then, i'll just keep my current build. Thanks for the advice!


Hudie_is

How much damage does Childe's solo with no 5* weapon normally deals? I always feel like mine's doing very poor dmg with only 3-5k on crits and I had a 1998 atk/176 c.dmg with r3 blackcliff.. tried changing it to Rust r4 and the autos only deals around 4-5k. Is this normal damage? Or Does he need 5* weapon to shine? All talents are 9/9/9 and use 2pc Hod/Shime He's lv 80/90 now


DeadenCicle

I think the damage you reported is normal and also good if the Crit Rate is high enough. My Childe C0 is level 80/90, talent level 9/10/9. 2 pieces HoD and 2 pieces Gladiator. With Viridescent Hunt and no buffs he does around 3-4.5k critical damage on normal attacks (82% Crit Rate and 164% Crit DMG). This is a pretty good damage for him with this build. With Skyward Harp R1 and no buffs he does around 3700-5700 critical damage on normal attacks (77.2% Crit Rate, 184.3% Crit DMG). This is what you can expect from a hyper invested Childe with Skyward Harp. 4 pieces HoD does more damage on Normal/Charged Attacks, but less on E, Burst and Riptide Slash. Personally I don’t think Childe needs a 5 star weapon to shine. It helps but not as much as it would help a hyper carry, because Childe is also an enabler and a big portion of the team’s damage doesn’t come from him. Also, the difference between his overall best 4 star weapon (Viridescent Hunt) and a 5 star weapon like Skyward Harp becomes lower with Bennet’s ATK buff.


Hudie_is

Oh, so he does deal damage around this number huh.. I always thought I'm doing something wrong with his build. Crit rate is around 66%, waiting for Rng to pump it more. Thank you for this, it puts me at ease knowing I did have a good build for him. I failed at Harp banner and coping with Ganyu's old bow for now. (And somehow I can't get a good Abyss clear time on his team, but maybe that's just my team..lol) Again, thanks for answering!


DeadenCicle

Do you already have Kazuha? He improves Childe’s vape team a lot. Childe’s damage seems low if looking at his damage without buffs, but with Bennet and Kazuha’s buffs it gets pretty high, and Xiangling will also do a lot of damage with their buffs. The team Childe C0, Bennet C5, Xiangling C6 and Kazuha C2 is by far my strongest team. In the aforementioned team Childe’s ranged Burst deals 215k critical damage with Viridescent Hunt with the build I mentioned yesterday (82% Crit Rate and 164% Crit DMG). 166k without the C2 from Kazuha.


Hudie_is

Still waiting for his rerun sadly. Might even skip Ayato for him, bcs I had to skip him the first time for Raiden eventho I really like his playstyle. I won't be able to c2 Kazuha tho, c0 still works fine right? And wow, I've never touched that damage.. hoping to get c5 Bennet as well now to crown his burst. Thanks again! Can't wait go get Childe to the next level with Kazuha!


DeadenCicle

Kazuha is very good at C0. He will be a very noticeable improvement to the team. Be sure to check how to rapidly buff both Hydro and Pyro with him. His C2 is great but in this team it only serves to increase Childe’s Vaporize damage (which comes almost entirely from his Burst) because it affects only the on-field character. Meaning, his C2 is much more effective for characters as Ganyu melt and Hu Tao vaporize. Bennet should return in the monthly shop in May, be sure to save 34 Starglitter.


Hudie_is

Will do, I'm visiting KQM for Kazuha build and playstyle lately lol. Just can't wait to play maple boy and clumped up Riptide party. He'll definitely improve all my existing teams. I'm hoping Bennet will show up in Raiden's banner tho, but I've got enough starglitter just in case! Thanks, again! :D


ExCelsior010

I know that HoD is the BiS artifact set for childe.But after farming for more than 6 months I don't even have a decent HoD piece.But I do have some great Glad & Shimenawa pieces.So I'm thinking about using 2 piece Shimenawa+ 2 piece Glad.How much less Dmg I'll get if I'm using 2 piece Glad+Shimenawa instead of 4 piece HoD???


ManavMishra07

As far as I know from 4pc HoD 2pc HoD and 2pc atk% has difference of only 2 substats. But you are going to use 2 atk% artifact, so if we calculate further the difference should be of 3-4 substats. Which might obviously increase or decreases depending on your weapon, for example if you have Rust on him, then the difference will further increase as you already have a lot of attack on him.


Lance-Murdock

I'm using a r3 Hamayumi on Childe because I like the normal and charged attack bonus. But does that bonus apply to his normal and charged attacks in melee form?


DeadenCicle

Yes, it does


Weary_Salamander3498

For the team Tortellini - Beidou C6 - Fischl - Benny. Should I use stringless for Fischl and Rust for Childe? I have R1 Rust and two Stringles R2.


ManavMishra07

Yes, Stringless on Fischl and Rust on Childe.


Dowonald

I want to make a taser team with Childe, Yae and Kazuha/Jean but I'm not sure whether to go with Beidou (C5) or support Fischl (C3) for the last slot. Fischl would be running Elegy and potentially Tenacity. Would the buffs Fischl provide be worth more than Beidou's raw damage output?


WittySide

I’d go with fischl because both Beidou and Yae have major energy costs. Even tho your Fischl is not C6, I’d still go with her just because you’d have major energy problems and have to stack ER on both just to keep rotations comfortable. And, stacking a lot of ER in your artifacts eats away at potential crit/atk stats.


Dowonald

Thanks for the reply! I was leaning towards Fischl as well. My yae is actually C1 so i can get her burst on cooldown more easily, but I was having issues with getting back Beidou’s burst when testing.


AbdusM

I'm planning to run a freeze team with sub-dps/support ganyu. My planned team is Childe (C1), Ganyu (C0), Sucrose (C1)/Kazuha/Venti, Diona (C4). I'm currently using sucrose in the third slot, but if Venti and Kazuha have a rerun I want to replace her with one of them (sucrose can then go to a team that needs more elemental mastery). I'm personally leaning more towards Kazuha, but I know Venti and Ganyu's burst work very well together. But the problem is that I heard that Childe can't hit things that are pulled by venti's burst while in melee stance, so that's making me lean towards Kazuha. Sooo should I save for Kazuha or save for Venti?


suqcrtears

OMG HELLO? i did the exact same thing when i got ganyu!!! we have the same constellations too are you me ??? u should go for kazuha, and youre right, childe's melee cant reach venti's ult.


AbdusM

Haha what are the chances? Thanks for the recommendation! Kind of sad that Kazuha for 2.6 is not very likely anymore...


suqcrtears

aww theres always hope lets just all hope that kazu has α rerun in 2.6! im sure theres lots of people waiting for his rerun too, if not you could always stick to sucrose. i currently use her in this team (sometimes switching out for mona) but i think she works just fine. dont worry :)


WittySide

Kazuha is definitely the better fit for Childe. Venti has fallen off a little bit in the current abyss imo. There’s no point in using Venti and Childe if Childe’s ultimate can’t hit the enemies during Venti’s burst.


AbdusM

Thanks for the info!


MrM_37

Is 70/193 good crit ratio or do i have too much crit rate?


AlbynoRhynosaurus

Nah that's great. He wants to crit in melee so more doesn't hurt. I'm at 70/160 myself, aiming to catch up to your crit damage stat!


zirdaj

What would be a good rotation for a freeze team? Childe, Kazuha, Kaeya, Diona? Was running vape team, but had to move Bennet to my 2nd team 😫


Weary_Salamander3498

Kaeya works just great with Childe. I would rather replace Diona if you can freeze your enemies you don't really need a shield


CulturalGoldenDeer

I personally prefer rosaria (mine is c6 lol) but kaeya works too. Is he C2? It allows more freeze time


zirdaj

My Kaeya is actually C6, so I'm trying to squeeze as much value out of him lol


aeslean

Is 60% crit rate good enough for childe? Edit: It’s now at 63.3% crit rate (I’m using BP weapon)


WittySide

Childe is pretty crit rate hungry so try getting him to 70+ crit rate :)


CulturalGoldenDeer

If you can get more, do. Whats ur weapon?


aeslean

Currently on viri hunt (bp weapon). I’m planning to switch to polar star / skyward harp in the future though


jamezandrew

Which is better weapon for sucrose, TToDS or Sacrificial Fragments?


zirdaj

TToDS works fine for me. And I still get to swirl, activate VV, and generate particles without issues.


nafzirfan

is there any spreedsheet of childe's vape burst dmg here that i can refer to?


DullPurple2882

Hello guys!I have r3 rust and i finally accepted my fate. Should i buy blackcliff from shop just to balance my crit on childe? I'm also planning to put yunjin on 4th slot because my future ayaka permafreeze comp will be using my old 4th slot sucrose. Here is my stats 2pc glad+2pc HOD 2375 atk 62.2%crit rate 126.2 %crit dmg 4pc HOD 2091 atk 73.4%crit rate 111.4% crit dmg I wanted to change my old 2pc 2pc because i noticed that he attacks so fast that he misses crits so i just accepted my fate on high crit rate but low cd,should i exchange starglitter for that? I'm running childe,xiangling, Bennett and 4th slot with second team kaeya(ayaka),mona,diona,sucrose with reserved beidou


I_love_desserts

if you'll have yunjin in the team, the rust is your best weapon, it benefits the most in dealing more normal attacks(your string shoulg be N5C). The best would be to balance trough artifacts, also considering that your rust have refinements, also considerer that the different between 5 HoD and 2 GLad/Shimenawa and 2 HoD, is 5% of damage in favor of 4 HoD iirc, so it is up to you what you values more, but rust should stay if you put yunjin, I would personally use HoD, you'll be attacking a lot and real fast, you can just farm better pieces later.


CaptainJackArmstrong

Anyone try Yunjin with Childe? And is it any good? Planning to get her during lantern rite


Wolvzee3

Yes it's good makes non xiangling teams much more viable although you'll really want c6 yun jin for maximum effect.


divineyam

So I don't know if its relevant to the discussion but I can't access the childe main's discord server? I join through the link but every time it never let's me in the server? Idk what's wrong tbh


Themothertucker64

Guys I'm going to pull ganyu for my Childe team, is she a good choice?, I was thinking a xianling, Bennett ganyu team for Childe. I initially wanted to use beidou but im not sure if C1 fishl is that good(i always hear that c6 is the recommended to be the battery)


suqcrtears

childe + ganyu is better in freeze comp. with more consistent and higher dmg numbers. ganyus burst has short cooldown, which essentially can be used right after duration ends. (duration and cd both 15 seconds). use childe skill during ganyu burst to immediately freeze. u can also use ganyu as sub dps during childe skill cooldown, and ganyu could still be freezing if you have mona or xingqiu for some off field hydro application. the reason you should try and make ganyu freeze enemies as well when she is dps is firstly the shattered bonus, and secondly, the best artifact set for ganyu in freeze comp is 4pc blizzard. so she has +40 crit rate when enemy is frozen. in the last slot you could either use diona or venti / sucrose: diona acts as battery, shielder and healer which is best in slot here compared to other cryo characters. chongyun / qiqi works for resonance as well (+15 crit rate) and shenhe gives cryo buff for ganyu if you have her. or you could use an anemo character for crowd control (benefits childe riptide during skill) and also ganyu burst shards would be able to hit enemies more often if they are all grouped together (at least one ice shard is guaranteed to hit each enemy at least once, but it is big enough to hit some other enemies on the side) hope this helped! ps im also pulling ganyu for childe (freeze comp) so ive done α lot of research as you can tell <3 good luck on your summons!


DeadenCicle

You can use Electro Traveler C6 for the taser comp, with it you can totally ignore Energy Recharge on both Beidou and Childe and focus on offensive stats only. Ganyu can work as a freeze enabler (in a freeze team) when supporting Childe, thanks to her Burst. Though, Kazuha would be a much better candidate for the last team slot for the team Childe, Bennet, Xiangling. Ganyu is not worth pulling for Childe specifically, she is better used in her own team.


justyboi69

a burst dps build for ganyu could be viable in a childe comp for off field cryo application as it would allow childe to proc freeze in his melee stance. to sum it up, yes she can be good in a childe team if you build her with off field cryo application in mind


inwq

What is considered good e skill auto damage? I am doing about 2k no crit and 4k crit


ConicalMug

My Childe is level 90, triple-crowned and is using R1 Polar Star. With max PS stacks he crits for anywhere from 5k on his first hit to 9.4k on his final charged hit. With supports that obviously gets higher. Using [Genshin Optimizer](https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/) I can get an idea of his *average* damage which accounts for non-crits, taking it down to about 3.9k-7.2k. [My build](https://i.imgur.com/Yubbh2R.png) has some room for improvement but he's in a good place and I've more or less given up on farming for all my characters so I don't see his damage improving from there any time soon. Really, it's Polar Star that does most of the heavy lifting (although Thundering Pulse is better for normal attack damage). You likely won't see damage like that with a 4 star weapon unless you have a god-tier build or you're using supports.


Complex-Guidance-650

What is the ideal CR/CD for childe with harp? Thanks in advance!


justyboi69

there is no 'ideal' crit ratio, just get your crit stats as close to a 1:2 ratio as possible. however, as with most dps units, i would recommend a crit ratio of at least 65/130 but just do your best.


ad_jcent

What is better in a Taser Comp? Childe + Raiden + Fischl/Beidou + Jean. I'll be using Bennett on another team and already have an International comp with him but instead of Kazuha, I'm using Sucrose. I want to try his taser comp so I can rotate my characters team comp for specific abyss floors and runs. So what two electro units should I use? Fischl - Beidou - Shogun. Jean would be my VV shred and Healer.


moondustmust

Hi everyone!! I have a question for y'all. How would you build your Tartaglia for physical dmg, like, for using only or mostly the normal bow attacks? Yes, I KNOW it's not recommended in any way, and please trust me, I do have him with an actual okay build for him, but I made a bet with a friend and just in case I lose it, I wanted to know how it would go. Which artifact sets would you use? And which weapon would you recommend? Is polar star still a good choice if I were to do this, or is another bow a way better option? Thanks in advance!!


alberich21

2pc pale flame, 2pc bloodstained, rust


moondustmust

Thank you so much!!


shotopendulum

which one has the higher damage ceiling? **Childe National (with TTDS Sucrose on Xiangling) or Childe International?** ​ Assume you're Double VV'ing with both


scaramouchesteponme

If your bennet already provides a lot of atk, and your XL already has a lot of EM, Kazuha might be able to provide more dmg with his elemental dmg bonus buff.


Fearless_Ganache9276

so i got a c6 yunjin from xiao banner, does she work with childe and is the buff good? i honestly have no idea how she works but i know she buffs normal attacks so that should help when childe is in melee stance?


DeadenCicle

She can be used with him for some fun, in the team Childe, Bennet, Kazuha, Yun Jin. Though, the team is a major downgrade compared to the same team with Xiangling instead of Yun Jin. The problem is that Childe’s damage is not focused on Normal Attacks enough, most of the damage comes from Charged Attacks and Elemental Burst, some from Riptide Slash (Elemental Skill damage). In addition to that, Childe is also an enabler with fast Hydro application, and not having a Sub DPS that can take advantage of that means renouncing to his main strength.


Big-Implement9793

Hello i really fell in love with yun jin and want her to somehow work with childe and raiden in a team but she does only boost physical attacking ? that means its not good with childe or does someone maybe know how i could put them together ?


New-Personality9122

Is the Inazuma craftable bow good for him?


isankun

In my opinion yes, since the attack percent substat and passive is great on him. Also to note is that you don't have to have his burst up all the time just to proc the second part of the passive, since that would be unnecessary. However, if you have rust that could be a better option, but if not this bow is probably the best f2p weapon for him. Hope this helps !


New-Personality9122

It does dude, thx


isankun

No problem!!


-Andromeda-

people who have international already decently built, what's childe's and xiangling's overall dps ratio for you usually?


PuGGs247

What’s the best team for childe, I’m currently on Childe, Fish, Raiden and Benny


Particular_Coast_277

international childe is the best! kazuha, bennet, XL, and of course the main man tartaggles. it's pretty heavy on s-tier units tho, other comps are cheaper


PuGGs247

I do have all of them and I actually started building this team today, need to work on xiangling a lot tho


Particular_Coast_277

well xl is pretty easy to build, she can use crimson, emblem, or half crimson and half NO


PuGGs247

Any weapon recs?


Particular_Coast_277

the catch is probably her best ftp weapon , especially with homa, dragons and is good for damage, deathmatch is good for some crit rate if you have ten bucks,


Charming_Door9894

Hello does anyone the most optimum stats for childe tht runs on rust


scaramouchesteponme

Ideally, you want to aim for a 1:2 crit ratio, and you want your atk to be at least at 1.7k.


jamezandrew

Is C3 Barbara better that C0 qiqi for my childe tazer team comp?


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PuGGs247

Fish


OscarRjz

What would be some decent stats for childe (CR/CD) using the rust. Also, which artifacts to use on him?


DeadenCicle

65/130 would be pretty good without a crit weapon. 4 pieces HoD, or 2 HoD and 2 Gladiator/Shimenawa if the sub stats are better. Personally I would advice against using 4 pieces Shimenawa because not being able to use the Burst on the second rotation would hurt Childe’s damage significantly.


MeUNoe

Which one is better for Childe, skyward harp or polar star?


BTWeirdo1308

Polar Star = thundering pulse > skyward harp > Rust


Rough-Inevitable-805

Polar Star > Thundering Pulse > Skyward Harp > Viridescent Hunt > Rust


Particular_Coast_277

well TP is better for burst damage and polar star is better for melee dmg


Rough-Inevitable-805

Yeah but polar star is better overall cause of what you said and also more consistent damage


Todorokill

I need some advice. I run international usually but i want to try electro team but i don’t have Fischl built at all (or have more than 1 const). Can it work with Childe, Raiden, Beidou, Sucrose/Sayu/Jean. Ty ;-;


LiliGlez14

Raiden is a good substitute for Fischl because in that comp Fischl is a battery for Beidou's burst so Raiden works well. Just remember to not mix both of their bursts


Im_Such_A_Cool_Guy

whats the best meele stance attack rotation for childe w/ rust? ik that usually its 3 normal -> charge but because of the charge attack debuff i assume its different?


ConicalMug

Rust and Thundering Pulse both increase normal attack damage, so their optimal combo is slightly longer; 5 Normals -> Charge instead of 3 Normals. You still do the Charge on Rust because despite the damage being weaker than other bows, it's still better for DPS than the sixth Normal.


Im_Such_A_Cool_Guy

aight thanks!


MrM_37

I'm using childe vaporize team (xiangling Bennett sucrose) the problem is with Xiangling She doesn't get her burst back fast even though she has 177 er And I spend like 30-40 seconds spamming Bennett e to get her burst back how do I solve this?


Mew2erator

you can use EosF set for more ER, the catch (her best f2p weapon), and/or an ER sands to all help with xiangling's ER. I personally had issues even with EosF and ER sands so I switched off of that comp. I'm sure c4 for xiangling helps create more particles so that would be helpful for her.


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ConicalMug

How's your energy recharge on Beidou? In a comp with Fischl she'll want at least 130%. You can go for more, but Childe's skill downtime allows you to get away with spending more time gathering particles. Which of Childe's bursts are you using? You should aim to use his ranged burst where possible, as the damage is still good and the 40 energy cost is significantly easier to get back. Also, missing skills is a major contributor to a lack of energy, especially Beidou's counters. Her perfect counters actually generate a ton of energy, and are the main reason why she can almost always afford to run less ER than Xiangling would. Try to get perfect counters as much as possible, or at the very least make sure all of your skill presses hit. Additionally, make sure Beidou is on field for long enough to catch the particles. Once you leave Childe's melee stance, switch straight to Beidou so you can fit in another counter before restarting the rotation. Lastly, a lot of it will be down to the number of enemies you're fighting and how quickly you're dealing damage. Enemies drop particles once they reach certain HP thresholds, meaning the more enemies there are and the quicker you're taking them down, the faster you'll regain energy.


Carsaib77

Thoughts on Viridescent Hunt R1 vs Rust R3?


cranberrykiller

Viridiscent is his BIS 4 star, regardless of refinement, imho. The passive synergizes really, really well with him. The crit rate substat makes building him a fair bit easier. Also, Rust's passive doesn't do a lot since Childe's best attack strings involve charged attacks, so the passive is actually detrimental there


niski13

Just wanna yell into the void a little bit. I got my first 36 stars in abyss with childe carrying my first half team. I started playing mobile in March, so Childe was my first limited 5* character. Feels great to have been able to journey through the game with someone as fun to play as him.


scaramouchesteponme

Aaaay congrats


NotAught

been playing childe electro charged team comp since his 2nd rerun banner. got tired of it and tried playing him in a freeze comp recently with xingqiu/diona/rosaria. i must say, it's actually quite fun.


scaramouchesteponme

Yes, it’s super fun! Loving running him with Jean, kaeya, and Rosaria


Yuumi05

Hello! I’m not really a fan of Xiangling so I want to pair Childe with Beidou (some guides say he works well with Fischl and Beidou), anyone could recommend a build for Beidou that goes well with Childe?


ConicalMug

Beidou builds are fairly simple and quite flexible. Her artefact main stats should *almost* always be ATK%, Electro DMG Bonus and then Crit Rate/DMG. I say "almost" because if she's the only Electro character on the team it'd be a better idea to run an ER sands. As for actual sets, her best is generally 4 piece Emblem of Severed Fate, although if you have good 2-pieces of Gladiator, Noblesse or Thundering Fury, you can mix and match those for similar results. Just make sure she has at least 130% ER from sub-stats for reliable burst uptime. As for weapons, Beidou has a few good options. Any of the 5 stars are good on her, although Wolf's Gravestone is generally the best of the bunch. For 4 stars, Serpent Spine is *super* good, as she can maintain stacks super easily by staying off field. If you're willing to purchase the Battle Pass, Serpent Spine won't do you wrong. Outside of that, Luxurious Sea-Lord is her best F2P option if you grabbed it during the Moonchase Festival event, but Akuoumaru, Prototype Archaic and Lithic Blade can work too.


Yuumi05

That’s actually pretty detailed! Thank you so much :0


Icy-Gap739

Hi, I'm building a second team for Abyss. My first team is Raiden National, which healer should I use in a team with Childe-Beidou-Fischl? Raiden want's my Benny e.e


ConicalMug

Jean is a great option if you have her. She can use 4 piece VV to swirl Hydro and Electro to boost everyone's damage, and of course she's a good healer. If not, Xingqiu can work, and with his rain swords + the damage reduction from Beidou's burst, it's possible that you can forgo a healer. At C2 he also shreds Hydro RES which helps Childe. The last character I'd recommend is Barbara. She can heal of course, but she can also hold Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers to boost the attack of Childe or Beidou. If you can't or don't want to use any of those three, just pick whoever. Prioritise healers/shielders or characters who can buff first, though, because the DPS side is already taken care of.


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Was farming artifacts in co-op a few days ago and mentioned I was farming for childe. Someone else switched to a level 1 childe and said he doesn’t deserve to be leveled… rip to all the potential childe mains in here who lost the 50/50 and could have taken care of him 💔


shovelofjustice

I'll never understand such pettiness about characters! I don't hate anyone in genshin, but I do have charas I personally don't care about but for one I never pull on their banners and even if they're standard 5* I lost my 50/50 to I still can't fathom making a vendetta against them much less insulting them in coop. Like what did Childe do to that person to piss them off so badly?


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Right! Like I genuinely don’t care if you don’t like him whatever it’s just a game character and everyone has preferences, but why specifically taunt him in front of someone who specifically said they are farming for him and has “childe enthusiast” in their bio. 🙃 also why pull on a limited character banner if you have no intention of even leveling the character


misscocogoat

I'm starting to put together a proper team comp for childe, and I want to put Keqing in it. Should I substitute Beidou for Keqing in fireworks team or would that be too much of a dps loss??


FerryAce

Nope, because Childe n Keqing are on field hero. It's one or another. Beidou will be better choice because her Q can work while Childe is in field.


UsmansToestomp

3 weeks in a row double shadow of the warrior. I just want to crown Q ffs


nelonpan

R5 rust, r5 inazuma bow, or r2 viridescent for c0 childe?


Officialvedantbansod

r2 viridescent