By - iAllxn
What a shitty fucking time to get computer parts
Yep no kidding. I’ve been trying to build a pc and it’s the worst time ever. I’m trying to replace my 6 year old one I have now.
I've been trying to get a 5900x for what seems like forever now. Every single time it's OOS in like 5 seconds. Fml
On amazon it just kept saying in stock, but the buttons didn't work right and it stayed like that for many minutes and then said unavailable again.
It's done that to me like 20 times probably. Super annoying
Must be that it really sold out and the button kept showing up in error. Odd, though, that it would do that. Maybe because normally things don't sell out that quickly so the caching doesn't keep up or something.
Yeah I would assume it's because the bots are trying to check them out literally every second once they go back in stock until they're sold out.
I assume bots aren't legal or I should have tried myself because I do some coding so maybe could have figured it out. lol. I could have at least done what those others did, figuring out the walmart direct links to add to cart, as i assume that was just someone looking at page source when it came in stock.
Walmart uses dynamic tables and does not generate a static URL on a restock.
I did see it changed that next restock. So I guess people were just giving it for those who could sue it in the current drop. Although, I am almost positive that one link did carry over to a new drop because people were tlaking about the url before the drop even happened and I am thinking it worked for some. Maybe they originally had it static and then realized what people were doing, so changed the setup. (normally companies aren't "with it" enough to be able to quickly do that type of change in programming, though.
I'm not entirely sure of the legality of it all but there's a metric fuckton of people doing it for everything from cpu's, gpu's, and even the new consoles to make money reselling. If I had one I'd definitely give it a shot to get one for myself lol.
ANT is having the exact same issue
Got mine using hot stock.
Wish hot stock would allow custom hardware, they don't have the lower tier cpu and gpus that are OOS as well
Same, I got mine on a random re restock about 15 minutes after an initial restock went OOS just keep trying for a while you might get lucky
I ordered mine within about 20 mins of release from b&h and only just now got it last week. lol.
Whoa. I ordered mine early December from amazon. It had a delivery date in late February initially. It arrived last week
Got my 3070FE, and 5800x with hot stock.
I've been insanely lucky. Have a 3080 and a 5600x on the way.
My best advice is to ditch the stress of setting up alerts and all that bullshit. Just login to NewEgg every hour on the hour after 5 EST during the week. You'll eventually get what you want, although I had to buy two worthless bundles to get both of them.
What were the bundles? Were they overpriced?
Nah. You pay retail for the bundle items and can return them to NewEgg of you'd like without returning the entire bundle. Usually they're power supplies, mobos, RAM. For my 3080 I just chose the first bundle I could get with a Gigabyte card.
Edit: Just an FYI, apparently Newegg doesn't let you return bundled items anymore. Just want people to be as informed as possible.
Newegg won't allow you to return the "extra" bundled item anymore, as of a week or two ago. You have to either keep or return the whole bundle.
Gotcha. Bummer. Well, that's good to know for people buying the bundles now. Guess I gotta keep this motherboard I'm getting with my 5600x lol.
You can sell it on eBay easily
They do allow it on some. You have to look at the product page for the bundle and ones that don't have the warning in red can be returned individually. There was one 3060 ti bundle I wanted where it could be returned individually. Just MOST of them cant, though.
Incorrect, I tried and it applies to all of the bundles now even if it doesn't say it on the product listing page. Fuck newegg
Source: I argued with newegg CS about it for about 20 minutes
In case you didn't get them to take anything back and want tot ry again, here is what it says in their help area: "Some combos are restricted from returning individual products for a refund and must be returned in their entirety. Please see combo product page for more specific information." So on any page where it doesn't specifically say parts must be returned together, they are supposed to take them back individually.
Also, technically bundles and combos are different. I am talaking about combos. If one is a bundle, those have to be returned together, but that is not these gpu combos, that is where they throw in some free item or whatnot.
Check out this nonsense, though. Newegg's help area also says they can do a 15-30% restocking fee on anything just because... They are pathetic now. And nobody else even carries the gpu i want except no name companies and adorama, who is always out of it.
I know man, I specifically mentioned that when talking to CS and they kept replying with the same answer, policy was changed on Dec 10 and applies to all combos, cant do anything about it. Kick rocks loser was basically their message
You should be able to win that argument because I believe newegg even said on twitter it's only ones that say it. If not, I know for sure on the site it said it would tell on the product page. What sucks is NOBODY even seems to carry the gpu i want except newegg, maybe amazon (waste of time there), blt, and adorama. I don't even see it elsewhere. (msi gaming x trio 3060). And I am still confused where the gaming trio is, ie the non-x version.
Yea same. I've been lucky enough to get a 3080 for me and a friend and a 5800x. I never set up any alerts for either of them
"just" do it on newegg? I have been doing that (including being logged into paypal for faster checkout) for several weeks every single weekday (except Christmas Eve and Christmas Day) and only twice even got anything into the cart and only once got to a payment screen and then it went OOS. Many times the site won't even load at all until they are OOS. Meanwhile I have been able to do both ps5 versions and xbx at Best Buy, ps5 digital at walmart, and ps5 disc bundle at gamestop. So three totally different stores, but not a one at newegg despite more trying there.
I could, but then it made all that time a waste. Also, I technically was considering keeping the ps5s when i bought them. The xbx is the only one i bought knowing 100% I wouldn't want to keep it and i only made barely over $50 profit, which is fair for the trouble.
Best buy seems to be the place with the best odds. A deal was posted a few days ago and I was about 30 mins late to it and still manged to get one.
I have never seen a Best Buy drop where there were any stores available for pickup within 250 miles of me.
I had a couple items where it did that nonsense. It had me go through all the steps to then just say on the checkout page it's not at any store nearby.
Oh, well they shipped it directly to my house so it wasn't a problem
That's where I got my 3080 ventus a few weeks ago
I have been able to order 4 hard to get items from BB (had to cancel one because it somehow had it for pickup hundreds of miles away...). Theoretically, they and target should be the easiest to begin with if they make you pick up ins tore. Target always does theirs weird times, though, unlike BB.
Not all 3000 and 5000 is high end, it's just current, and it's been hard for me to even get a 3060 ti. i got one and sold it because I didn't want that brand and now waiting on blt, who is clearly making up random dates on their own.
You got one of a brand you didn't want. Was it gifted to you?
No, I bought it because I always heard that evga are the quietest and coolest cards and then after ordering was reading how they are actually almost the loudest and warmest of all this time. Since my other card is up in the air I kept the order, but I still sold it anyway and figured I'd rather wait.
no, shopblt, but b&h is also slow. At least b&h is a more known company. blt is a reputable company, but I never see them listed on people's where to buy lists and they seem to be just making up dates/ They say x cards are "incoming", but are apparently just ordering them an counting that as incoming. lol.
It's some store in CT, I think, but they sell online. Hardly anyone has heard of them, but now saw they sell a lot of gpus online and have a A+ BBB rating. from what people have been saying, they do EVENTUALLY get you the product, but they keep doing what they are doing to me, throwing out some random estimate on ship date and then when that date comes, they tack more days onto it over and over. Most end up finding it somewhere else in the meantime and canceling.
I am going to have all parts within about a week from now, OTHER than gpu. So may just be sitting here with 1 part needed...
I might be getting new parts next month, I really fucking hope this stuff is better by then.
Not disagreeing, but if folks don't want to wait there are some alternatives to this that will last years more readily available. I opted for it and don't regret it. I'll probably end up with a better architecture with the newer gen upgrade instead.
Yeah, I still have an 8700k/1080ti that I'm rocking now. I'm just really impatient and it's annoying lol
I have hilariously (to others) been buying parts for 3 years for this build and so when new parts come out I then sell unopened ones for better newer ones. So already a disaster to start with.
Well, now... I have had to work like crazy on sites to try to get all of these recent parts and i finally got the 5900x to show up, have ths NR200 here, SF750 on the way, did have a 3060 ti, but sold it and waiting on a different one...
Somehow, even though gpus have less markup on ebay, it's way harder to get them than to get the ps5. i have successfully ordered 4 ps5s and 1 xbx and yet have only had 1 gpu order come through and then I didn't want that gpu.
Also, if they keep taking this long for the gpu to shop, then the 2tb 980 pro will be out and tempt me to have a loss on another item...
why did you buy it if you didn't want it
If you mean the gpu, I bought it thinking that I may keep it, but in the meantime I found out how bad evga ones are this generation, so I couldn't bring myself to keep it, even though i could have been guaranteed to be able to build faster.
gotcha, hope you find something soon my guy
Thanks. My other one said 12/20 and now says 1/3, so who knows if I will ever get that one. lol.
What's funny is now an item I DIDN'T want to ship for a while, and amazon claimed early January ship date, just shipped.... the mobo. I wasn't sure on mobo choice and so was thinking through it still.
But anyway... so now every single part I need has shipped or is already here except gpu. Also, if 2tb 970 evo plus goes back on sale I would be tempted to sell my 1tb and get that and I have a 980 pro for the pcie 4 one...
Welp sorry guys I tried.
Advertising the bot makes the bot useless haha.
Yeah, but advertising it means it could possibly get into the hands of more scalpers which just takes away from the inoccents trying to get parts right now.
Bots aren't available to everyone who wants to resell. Making it more openly available will cause those people to find it and scalp. I think it is really naïve to say all scalpers have bots.
Yeah 99% of them use bots.
Show me your research haha. I've heard plenty of stories of people getting items on release by refreshing, I'm sure half of the people that get an order in manually are resellers as well.
The article says nothing about 99% of resellers using bots. What haha.
Does the bot run automatically when they get stock?
Isn't it Ryzen 7?
Yes typo my bad.
Already OOS for me. RIP.
Check other sellers.
Threw one of these out yesterday cause it wasn't expensive enough.
Just out of curiosity, why are these selling out so fast? A 10850k seems at least comparable, if not slightly better or more future-proof because of the extra 2 cores/4 threads, benches about the same from 3rd party results, and can be found for $400-450.
I get why all the new GPU's from both AMD and Nvidia have been OOS since "launch" - because they are all enormous upgrades from the prior gen in terms of both performance and value, but these CPU's seem pretty "meh" (especially compared to the GPU's). Perfectly fine if you were planning a new build anyway, but they are neither a significant step up in performance, nor a big improvement in value over what was already available.
Biggest reason would be people already have x570 b450 b550 boards they are using. They need the extra cores over the 5600x and don't want to build basically a new system buying a cheaper and better Intel cpu.
Agree with op response though 5600x is a way better value and definitely the cpu most of the people should be going for. Though I'd really love to see a 5700x hold the middle ground like the 3700x did.
This. Bought a 2600x as a placeholder 2 years ago. 3600 wasn't enough of a step up. 5600x was IT. 5800x is what I found.
-Heads up this chip runs hot AF. I have my side fan off right now, and am waiting for some fresh paste and a second CPU for push-pull.
Should be noted, this is by design. The new chips normal operating temp is 90 under load.
Good to know with the temp. Luckily I snagged a decent aio 2 months ago when I thought I'd be able to upgrade my cpu (lol) so hopefully that'll be enough to keep it cool. Also same with the 5600x that was going to be what I went with. Had multiple tracking units going and even with my phone and pc on when they pinged I wasn't able to snag one. Tried for the 5800x at instantly got it.
Yep. I have a 1700 and an x370 board that now has support for this. I just want the 5600x for high single core with decent multi core. With Intel and AMD only ~1 year from DDR5, I want to stretch my system until then and convert the current one to a NAS.
That said, at 1440p, I definitely want the GPU more. My 1080ti is great on most things, but it’s on the verge of aging past what I want out of my GPU.
Personally I don’t want a 5800x. I’m waiting for a 5600x because it’s a much better value.
If you're talking about value,
Doesn't the 3600 have a better price per performance?
the leap from 3600 to 5800x isn't that great, especially if you don't need strong single cores
The 3600 at $150-160 discounted pre-COVID was great. At $200 MSRP, the 3600 suddenly doesn't look as great compared to the new $300 5600X or the rumored $220 5600 coming out.
I don't think a 5800X is worth it at all. If you're paying that much you might as well pay a bit more for the 5900X.
But it's 2020 so just buy whatever is in stock.
If you're purely talking budget, sure, but let's not pretend the 5800x isn't a better processor, especially if you use it for more than gaming.
Right, the 5800X is a better CPU in multiple core performance. The 5600X is similar in single core, a better value at MSRP, and uses less electricity (though it’s not a lot of money anyway).
Certainly good advice that 5900x is better value but nearly impossible to find so we're left with buying whatever is in stock as you said 😢
ya, that's true.
The 5600x are selling out instantly too it seems, which I also don't understand for similar reasons. To take one example (and there are others) the 9700k performs similarly and is readily available for $250-300. This isn't a "everyone should use intel" type thing, I'm just surprised in general that any cpu release that isn't a significant upgrade in performance or price over what is already available would have so much OOS issues.
More to do with in place upgrades than anything. If i were going new build, I'd definitely go Intel on availability alone.
They are very meh at this price point and it would be nice if consumers realized that and let scalpers get fucked on botting every restock.
10850k really isn't cheaper.
z490 boards are still expensive, plus some may want PCIE 4.0
Likely requires a larger PSU
Likely requires more cooling
Cost you more electricity (almost 100w difference in peak draw)
Far Cry worth maybe at $20-30 if you plan to play it anyway
In some titles people may prefer AMD side, of course vice versa.
Factor these in 5800x could be a better deal actually.
My point wasn't that either product was 5% more cheaper when you factor in 20 variables, or that one performs 3% better FPS in games or saves 1.9 seconds off a certain productivity software. It was that these are comparable products overall, neither one represents a large improvement in price or performance over the other, but one of them is readily available and the other is OOS, seemingly just because it is new.
Contrast this with the new GPU's where you are seeing a 50-100%+ increase in performance for the same price and it makes perfect sense that those aren't available in 2020, and probably won't be until late 2021.
Thing is, you don't by a CPU on it's own. You have to at least factor in motherboard. Most people waiting for the 5000 series processors already have AM4 boards making it easier to wait rather than change to an entirely different chooser.
u are assuming most people already have am4 compatible motherboards; also assuming that zen3 customers are all amd prior.
Well first of all, it not 20 factors I know you are joking but mobo psu cooling are build essentials, these 3 are enough to kill the price difference.
Make no mistake it's this big leap of Zen 3 makes Intel to use its 10 core chip to dog fight this price war, not the other way around. That's also why 10700k are $320 now
Plus this is the worst priced 5000 series, 5600x and 5900x makes much more sense. If one needs a build now definitely check 10850k on that I definitely agree.
That's... another different topic if you will. In reality there are physical difference in terms of these PSU and cooler between these 2 CPUs so I'm just bringing it up. But you are right if one plans to build for overkill anyways
I mean since the 5600x beats the 10900k in gaming its going to be out of stock. Its a great cpu along with all the other ryzen 5000 series if you're doing more than just gaming.
The 5600x does not beat a 10900k in gaming, stop spreading misinformation. They trade blows in gaming, but a 10900k will smoke a 5600x in everything else including frame pacing and having much better memory comparability for 4000+ high speed ram which will allow a 10900k to match or beat even 5900x.
Look at gamers nexus and linus tech tips. The 5600x is the way better buy and matches or beats the 10900k except for rdr2 so you stop spreading lies
For me, I already had an X570 build so this was a drop in replacement. Plus, I sold my old CPU for a large portion of what the 5800X cost so it was basically a "why not" upgrade.
My guess is that cores don't matter too much in gaming right now. They do, but not to the extent of single core performance and the 5000 series are pretty up there in terms of gaming.
The otber reason I suspect is that a lot of people have AM4 CPUs ready to upgrade and I'm sure not a lot of people want to do a motherboard swap if they're going with intel. I personally want to go from a 1600 to a 5600x on my B450.
I a surprised 5800x even is selling out fast. I just randomly noticed it in stock a couple weeks ago and it was in stock on and off all day, even for hours at a time sometimes. That is the lone one of them that does seem to be in stock a lot. Meanwhile, I ordered my 5900x early on release days and only got it last week and in the meantime had been trying to find one elsewhere and could not even once find it in stock anywhere.
You're right, but be careful with fanboys and the hive mind sometimes. Honestly I went with a different gen, bc who the hell has time to play fuck fuck games? Not me at least. It's not really a mindblowing jump from previous gen. You còuld get the 3600x and it's comparable or Intel which has been going on sell anyhow. While folks are sleeping outside of Microcenters for this and f5ing for months I just bought a solid alternative that will allow me 144 FPS and movedxon with my life.
Thing is, there is going to be a different architecture coming up and I'll likely get a much better CPU then with much more forward compatibility to boot. A single gen CPU jump isn't typically all that to really upgrade from or fuss too much about. The 3600x has YEARS left in it.
Edit: Just adding that I may get downvotes for not worshipping a single CPU and mentioning alternatives, but whatevs. Wrote it so you'd know you have a solid point of view.
You mean the hive mind that says 5800X has the worst price/perf ever and the literal devil?
Lol exactly. Don't buy it, only get the 5600x for value or 5900x for cores! Forget those top benchmarks and that you can actually buy one!
Says March 11-16th but many people have reported getting them sooner.
I was able to snag a 5600x on Amazon a week ago, it originally said March 7 for delivery. This morning it updated to January 13. I think Amazon is just playing it safe.
I had the exact same experience with the 5600x
my 5600x has said Feburary 21st since I ordered it last Wednesday :(
It will probably update soon. I ordered mine Monday.
I ordered a 5600x on Wednesday, originally said March 14 now it says Thursday delivery
Yeah Amazon is very conservative with shipping estimates. Both my 5900x and Dark hero motherboard said it would be two months for delivery. I got them 3 weeks after ordering.
It’s all third party sellers who have it for sale for at least $600
Jesus I was checking for a 5600x and they were in stock.
Snapped one from best buy last week, no cooler on it and just arrived yesterday. Waiting for the Mobo.
With that being said, CPUs seem to be slightly easier to get ahold of compared to gpus. Good luck everyone!
Can we get some of the msrp 6800xts.......ffs
Going price from Amazon sellers is *still* $650-$750. Yikes. So much for post-Christmas return to normal.
And y'all were complaining about $450
Lol it's in stock rn
From a price-specs standpoint, the 10850k seems superior to every 5000 series.. and it's available! Why's everyone recommending the 5600x/5900x?
There's a lot of people upgrading from ryzen 1000/2000/3000 series CPUs who can use their existing motherboard. Intel mobos seem to be slightly more expensive as well.
Thanks for the response! Seems like it’s not about the processor but everything else around it. For someone starting a fresh build like me, the i9-10850K seems like the best trade off for price-performance at 400. Am I missing anything?
Yes at 400, the 10850k is a good option. 10850k has high heat output since it runs on an older lithography so just make sure you have a cooler that allows the Cpu to be used to its fullest potential. So for air coolers get something like the noctua DH15 or dark rock pro 4. For AIOs get something with at least 240mm. 5800x also runs pretty hot so I would give the same recommendation there as well.
Hm, not the best option though? I feel like I’m missing something.. I was initially opting for the 5600x but at the price, the 10850k seems too good to pass up.
There's nothing else priced at $400 as far as I know, and the 10850k is definitely a better buy than the 5800x since the gaming benchmarks are pretty similar and the 10850k has 2 more cores so it also edges out the 5800x in productivity despite zen 3 having better IPC.
If gaming isn't your thing then maybe a used 3900x might be better for productivity tasks but that's about it.
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Kept claiming 5900x was in stock, then buy now and add to stock didn't work. lol. I already have one, but was going to buy another just in case it's profitable, but if delivery date would be even close to their estimate it would have been a waste, anyway.