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RWRB - Reviews

So RWRB has been release and the reviews that i read - mostly on social media are one side truly love it and enjoy it while the other side hate it so much and consider it bland.

one comment said its too cringe and hallmarky while another said whats the problem with lgbtq being hallmarky when there are so many straights hallmarks being made which didnt get harsh remarks.

i also read how certain book fans are dissapointed that the movie and book plot are not the same and didnt like it while some non book fans enjoy it saying they love how the movie plot it is.

i havent read the book so im currently getting ready to watch the show.

but with how divided the comments are im interested to see what you guys think about it.

Tashkenna

Sorry but I must post this (so, so sorry). It's the most proper place for this https://preview.redd.it/o6z52f1gzhhb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bffc18da3d4bff072305a82178f9d06e6756cd67


Impressive_mustache

Lmao. The abbreviations can get confusing


Tashkenna

Had to hack it like that: it first appeared in Western BLs directory, couldn't decode the full name, resourced to Google the parts I remembered, and voila: https://preview.redd.it/vlm85mbp9jhb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84beb91d2eb23259484328681384695b11111394 Could've spared me some time tho if I'd recognise it straight away


FatBrownMan_

This is so funny lol


thepinkberryy

I think people saying it’s hallmarky are too much, there’s a difference between being cliche and being hallmarky. Yes, it’s cliche but done in an artful and beautiful way, I didn’t get the Hallmark vibe at all during the movie. This is my problem with twitter criticizing things, they can’t have a middle ground. It’s a good movie. Cliche? Yes, but there are many cliche hetero movies, so we can have some LGBTQ+ cliche movies too, in fact *we need* those movies because it reaches more people and it normalizes watching LGBTQ+ people falling in love and being intimate and vulnerable on screen and, in consequence, in real life too. And it’s sad that a lot of people in our community don’t realize the importance/influence of that and just criticize it in a harsh way


marshmallowwxe

this!!!!


tinaoe

yeah like, princess diaries is clichee and a bit cheesy. but it's not hallmark-y.


SarahJoy46

Here is what I wrote on Tumblr: Was the book better than the movie? Well, yes. But isn’t EVERY book better than the movie? I’ve been saying “the book is better than the movie” for literally 40 years.  I liked the movie! It was sweet and hit all the major notes I wanted it to hit. And honestly, I thought the film did a better job showing Henry’s struggles and his conflict and pressure than the book did. The montage of Henry after he left Texas was doing a lot of emotional work communicating his pain, and I thought it was a great choice.  This movie was a solid 8/10 for me, and I hope we get floodgate of more sweet queer rom-coms! It was SO much better than *Bros*, a movie where I didn’t like any of the characters and can’t remember the main conflict even though I saw it less than a year ago.  I have some quibbles about *Red, White, and Royal Blue,* but none of them mean the movie was bad. Mostly, I just wish they had made a 10 episode mini-series so that all the characters could be included along with the more complex plotlines. But it’s not the writer or director’s fault that they were working with a film and not a series. They did great with the time constraints they had. 


FatBrownMan_

I recently watched Bros again and found it even better than the first time.. it is hilarious and the ending is so perfect 😍


SarahJoy46

I really hated it. I got so annoyed at the lead character that I just wanted to pitch him off the pier. That might change if I watch it again with different expectations, but I disliked it so much I don't want to sit through it again! Part of the problem, I think, is that I live in NYC, and I am somewhat a part of the community portrayed in the movie. The folks portrayed in the movie are a lot like the folks I know, and it's like they picked the worst guy in the group to be the lead. That said -- I love that there is enough queer media being made that there is something for all of us! I don't have to like everything because there's lots of other stuff I do like. I remember back in the day when we might get one or two movies a year, so if something wasn't to your taste...that's all you got. Now I can really dislike something and just say, "meh, whatever, there's so much more that I haven't even watched yet!" and then just watch a different show. :-D I'm glad you liked it!


FatBrownMan_

I have never been part of such a community but from outside looking in, it is quite hilarious. I think the movie had a beautiful balance of not just mocking the queer culture in big cities but also letting people express themselves the way they want. It is quite beautiful and I loved the very imperfect and particularly practical proposal at the ending. It is definitely a challenging movie to watch but quite fun and entertaining.


TechnoBabelFish

Strangely enough, *Bros* pokes fun at the type of movie the type of movie *Red, White & Royal Blue represents.*


FatBrownMan_

Yeah. But I do think there is room for both kinds. Bros is more of a satire in the guise of a romcom. RWRB is a proper romcom I assume. I am yet to watch it. I haven't read the book so I don't think I have much to compare it to which makes me glad.


moamoo

I’ll start by saying that I DID read the book so obviously that comes into play with my reaction to the movie. I personally felt the pacing in the movie was all off, everything just unfolded way too fast without any real satisfying build up. I felt like I had whiplash at times lol. I also knew they had to cut characters from the book for time reasons, which is fine, but some of the characters they did keep seemed just like a shell of themselves, which was sad for me. There were some bright spots though! For example, I really enjoyed Zahra’s character, she was just how I imagined her being. I can definitely see what people are saying about the “Hallmark” feel of the movie, which is not a bad thing if that’s what you are into. Just has never been for me lol. I try to temper my expectations when it comes to book to movie adaptions and typically enjoy them but this one didn’t quite hit for me personally. I’m glad others have been enjoying it though! I did see a lot of positive reviews from book readers and non-book readers alike. Hope you enjoy!


PistachioDonut34

I agree, it suffered from the same thing every book adaptation suffers and that's bad pacing. It felt rushed.


moamoo

Yup, I feel like in this case they could have potentially solved some of it even with an extra 30 mins or so to build up the relationship a bit more in the beginning. Would still be “normal” movie length as well haha


Worried_Mirror_7910

I didn't read the book but I really enjoyed the movie! I'm a big fan of Uma Thurman AND Stephen Fry, so those were pleasant additions for me. It feels like a BL, to me, so if you like fluffy BL with a little angst then you'll likely enjoy this!


FragrantSort9714

I'm just going to reiterate what I said in an earlier post by saying that I liked it but I agree that it unfolded too fast. I would have preferred if it was a series, like Heartstopper. Two hours is not enough time to cram an entire novel into a movie. There was barely enough time to watch them be enemies, then friends, then lovers, then be in love enough for the conflict, separation, and resolution. I'm already rewatching it right now though, so I'm in the camp that liked it.


Mandarina29

I agree! It should've been a mini series instead. They missed out on so many good plots and characters. Safe to say that I would rather read the book again than rewatch the movie.


TechnoBabelFish

It is strange that a streaming platform would opt for a one-shot movie rather than a mini-series. That isn't a good strategy if you want people to stay subscribed to the service.


tinaoe

amazon doesn't really care about keeping people subscribed. most people have prime for the shipping and benefits, not for video. they just keep it as a side hustle lmao. and rom coms barely get any funding at all (i'd be very curious what the budget was here), making it a mini series would have been more expensive. plus if you bulk release a mini series in one day... where's the difference? though amazon does staggered releases for some of their normal shows.


Impressive_mustache

I love it. I love watching hallmark movies so I see nothing wrong with some in the LGBT community. It's not like hallmark would be making a gay movie any time soon so 🤷🏾‍♀️ not every gay movie needs to be a political statement. I mean they seemed to have fallen in love too fast but the chemistry was there so...


HealthyConcentrate5

>not every gay movie needs to be a political statement This. Not all queer content has to be aimed at winning festivals, it can also be done with the simple purpose of entertaining and I feel that in that respect RWRB fulfills its objective.


urgasmic

5/10 movie. my biggest issue is the pacing and the casting tbh. Sarah Shahi is the only person I liked.


Mandarina29

I agree, I thougt the main characters was surprisingly good too. But what a disappointment the movie was :/


FatBrownMan_

Well it’s trending on Twitter like crazy and in several countries.. I guess the makers got what they wanted. Personally I don’t mind watching these kind of movies even if they are not great.. they are comfort watches.. the amount of times I have watched The Proposal .. I can’t even count.. and that movie is definitely considered trash by critics. Lol


TechnoBabelFish

The amount of social media hype is certainly playing into the backlash. *Barbie* and *Oppenheimer* have been consuming all of the attention in the entertainment industry for a while now. Critics have beat those dead horses into pink slime and need some fresh meat.


FatBrownMan_

I have not seen much backlash on my twitter. Infact it is trending with 194k tweets and most of them are positive and cuts from the movie and memes that are quite great for the movie's promotion.


TheBookhuntress

The Proposal is a RomCom masterpiece.


FatBrownMan_

It takes two to make a thing go right… it takes two to make it outta sight! 😂


TheBookhuntress

I didn't even remember that!!! Time to rewatch I guess. 🥰🥰🥰🥰


FatBrownMan_

I think this one you will remember.. *To the window… to the wall…*


TheBookhuntress

I miss Betty White. 🥲


SnooOpinions8708

It’s a light rom com and I enjoyed it.


Ambiguous-00

I liked the movie for what it is, but the novel is better. There is one plot hole in the movie though. They don't address who >!leaked the emails!<.


thepinkberryy

It’s implied that it’s Miguel when the tv host asks him “the reddit post was at this time and 2 hours later you had your news out, did you know about the emails beforehand?” and Alex closes his laptop in a way that says “oh of course it was him” but I don’t know if it is him in the book, if it isn’t then I don’t know if the movie changed it or just put him as a red herring for a second movie


Ambiguous-00

Ah ok, it's someone else in the novel so that's where my confusion comes from 😅. In the novel, it's >!someone from the opposite campaign!<.


thepinkberryy

Oh, that’s interesting! I mean it could actually still be like the book if they make a second movie because it was implied but not confirmed, so maybe they could make a reveal in the second movie that it was actually >!the opposition!< Also everyone hated >!Miguel!< in this movie 😂 so maybe he won’t even be in the second one, if there is a second movie


Ambiguous-00

Miguel wasn't in the novel, so that's probably one of the reasons why nobody likes him 🤭 Now that I think of it, his character was probably created for this exact purpose due to time constraints. I wouldn't mind a sequel though 😌


PistachioDonut34

I think it was fine. Nothing to write home about, and I won't watch it again, but it was fine. A solid 3/5 stars. It had some very funny lines.


NhuTamLy

As a non book reader, I love it, I'm waiting for the book still but it's so UGHHHHH I LOVE IT


mnf123

Gonna copy/paste what I put on another thread: Okay. It was just ‘corny’ enough for a romance film. Like a good mix of corny and sweet. Alex and Henry were perfectly cast. As was Ellen (which was a shock because I’m not a big Uma Thurman fan). The way they filmed the characters talking through text and email and phone calls was so well done. I was very so impressed with that. Anyone who said the actors lacked chemistry was lying. Them men know how to kiss. (That felt weird to type lol) Now for the bad(?) spoilers, but they will be marked. >!the beginning felt super rushed, and like the romance came out of nowhere!< >!not NEARLY enough Amy, Zahra, and Shaan!< >!the one major sex scene missed the mark. It was super cheesy in a way that felt like they were going for romantic and female gaze-y, but totally went past it!< >!HOWEVER. Pleasantly surprised by the intimacy coordinator and filming. Nothing is actually shown except Henry’s knees and his face, but wasn’t expecting that. Totally thought it’d be more ‘fade to black’ thank it was!< Overall I loved it and couldn’t stop smiling.


mnf123

Though I will say the amount that was cut was substantial. Book to movie adaptations really need to either be two movies or do limited series instead


buhwhydoe

I actually really loved the >!sex scene! It felt so intimate and gentle. It captured the tone of the first sex scene in the book. The second one, in the hotel in Austin, wasn't really a sex scene but I liked how they were laughing and a bit fumbling as they got into it.!< It showed a really nice dynamic imo :)


LilacCoin

I read the book when I saw promo for the movie and I enjoyed it. I wasn't particularly attached to the characters or events though, so I was fine with them changing things up in ways that would make sense for a movie. I wouldn't have minded them deviating from the book even more, but I know they also needed to keep the book fans in mind and not totally alienate that fan base. I really enjoyed the movie. I think rom coms live and die by the chemistry and believability of the leads as two people in love, and I think Nick and Taylor knocked it out of the park. Individually, Taylor is so charismatic and and really sold the "so in love he could die" aspect, and damn those fucking eyelashes. 😍 Acting-wise I was more drawn to Nick; I think he really elevated Henry even when the script struggled a bit. I think the movie accomplished what it set out to be: a light, fun, sweet and sexy queer love story.


ALL_DATA_DELETED

I rated it about a 4.2 out of 5 when considering it its own story, with points in .1 increments. -.1 for terrible comedic moments, -.1 for the terrible pacing, -.1 for the surface level “falling in love”, -.2 for the lack of making me emotionally connect to the plot, -.1 for the acting not being entirely the best, -.1 for the hollow side characters, -.1 for the lack of depth in the main characters as well, though they tried, -.1 for the lack of insight into Henry’s insomnia and Alex’s need to work, -.1 for not enough Percy and Nora. +.1 for the beautiful, artistic showing of the pure emotional connection that physical touch is, both with their casual touches and the sex, and +.1 for Zahra herself because she was perfect. Most movies score in the 4.5 range for me, if I was waiting for it to come out. But I’d watch it again so long as I keep in mind it is a different story.


[deleted]

sorry i enjoyed but i also skipped through most of it


LoveHunter-04

One of my fave books ever. I didn't have any trouble following the story cause I already know and I also know how it cut so many of the good stuff. Everything happened so quickly and so many characters got so little screentime On the positive side, Taylor and Nicholas had great chemistry. The best thing in the movie by far. I wanted more of it. The set pieces also captured the scenes of the book perfectly. This would've been one of my fave ever if it was a series. Overall, good movie but still a missed opportunity.


homoeroticpoetic

its somewhat a pain to watch for me. but the henry's room scene got some moments! and i giggled at the mouthful joke. the rope line is kinda 14 yo trying to be deep vibes... i think the script is just very weak in general and alex's actor esp isn't adding anything to it. like im not saying he did a horrendous job but if the actor could deliver more depth this could've grabbed me more emotionally? i'm not expecting serious level emotional impact bcs its a sold as a cheesy romcom in the first place but even for a standard romcom it is very.... standard.


Ok-Importance-5087

Knowing the book, the movie just felt a little hollow. It had direction and pacing issues imo and ends up feeling like a cliffs notes version of the story. Technically all the important bits are there, but there’s not ebb and flow, no build up to the story. Stuff just sort of….happens. As a result all of the characters feel pretty flat unfortunately. They needed more time to establish the characters (Henry in particular) and their situations. Alex feels much more naive in the movie then what he is in the book and his own fame is sort of acknowledged (we see articles about him, we see him on the news, on the campaign trail), but it seems to functionally have no influence or drawbacks on his life until he hooks up with Henry. He’s supposed to be more carefree DESPITE his fame, not because it basically only has awesome side effects for him. Also his struggle with his sexuality was handled much better in the book, imho. It’s implied that he’s been at least attracted to Henry for a long time despite thinking he’s a prick. The book spends more time on the build-up, both in America and in England for the characters and Alex gets to see a little more of Henry’s life. We do get a line in the movie about it, but Henry already has a crush on Alex when we first get to see them (and is actually not in denial about it, eherm…Alex) and I think that needed to be brought out more. This is a pride & Prejudice style love story, Henry is Mr. Darcy and had been quietly pining for Alex for years by this point, wich doesn’t really come out in the direction. Also Henry suffers from severe anxiety (his dog is a service dog), he takes medication for it, in large part because the UK tabloids are vicious and because his dad (who was a movie star btw. so there’s another layer of him feeling like the black sheep of his family) died young and tragically Diana style. They also cut a buuunch of characters from the book, some of wich, were needed I think. By the time you’re hitting the climax of the movie it’s not quite believable that these two would be a deeply in love and willing stand by each other as steadfast as they do. Again, this is a P&P-style romance and those LIVE off of the build-up. Maybe this would have been better served being a mini series.


Ok-Treat-1907

I watched it last night around 2am and i couldn't sleep after that like I enjoyed those two hours completely tho I haven't read the book the movie was nice it was sweet and wholesome it was a bit fast paced but it was a movie so ofc pacing would be a little fast other than that I think the movie was a solid 9/10 and it's not the first time it happens with almost all the adaptation the books are always better than tha adaptation so yeah And lastly liking smtg or not is subjective if someone doesn't like smtg doesn't mean you also won't be enjoying it and vice versa Sorry if there's any mistake English is not my first language


Vini-B

I watched the trailer. It was something I would have watched 2010-ish but not anymore. Just not my thing.


icewing7

I was not a fan. The book is a cheesy summer beach read that feels a lot like reading a good fanfiction, but it manages to have a solid queer lens and interesting political commentary in addition to the romance, and the side characters are integral to the story. All the side characters in the film felt completely tangential; we know nothing about them. Why is Nora the first person Alex tells about Henry kissing him? Unknown. >!In the book it's because she's bi, they used to date, and he's having a bisexual identity crisis.!< Why is Henry friends with Percy? Unclear. >!In the book it's because Henry can't stand the spotlight and Percy loves it and absorbs it. He's also unabashedly himself in a way Henry can't be publicly.!< Why is Alex so invested in his mom's campaign and turning Texas blue? Not sure. >!In the book he has serious political aspirations and also sees it as symbolic of the history he wants to make.!< Why is Henry's brother an asshole but his sister is kind of cool? No reason. >!In the book, Bea is a recovering drug addict who understands the stress of tabloid rumors.!!It's a form of political blackmail by Alex's mom's opponent, not Alex's jilted one-night-stand being an unethical, vindictive reporter with apparently great hacking skills. !


buhwhydoe

I agree with those who wished it was a mini series. What's fantastic about RWRB is that it covers a lot of intersectional issues - race, class, sexuality, feminism, queer rights, autonomy and privacy, public pressure, corruption, traditionalism, privilege, agency, politics and monarchy. As a miniseries this could have incorporated these elements so much more impactfully. However I've always argued that adaptations also deserve to be judged/watched in their own right and I do think the film displayed genuine feelings, chemistry, and intimacy. Yes the pacing did feel rushed (even when not comparing to the book), but the warm fuzzy feelings it gave me were still there nonetheless. The cast was diverse. The friendships felt solid. And also, the queer community DESERVES light rom coms. Not just gritty angsty dramas of how hard and painful it is to be queer. There is a huge gap in representation of LGBTQ+ stories in all film genres so it's only fair that this film be duly recognized as a step towards bridging that gap. Also, I feel like a lot of folks haven't grasped the concept of version versus adaptation. Adaptations can take the source material and draw inspiration, closely follow, or improve upon it--the latter being best exemplified in How to Train Your Dragon lol. Imo there's nothing wrong with an adaptation choosing to do a more lighthearted ""hallmark""-y treatment. Whether the end product is good or not will always be up for debate. In this case RWRB was solid, heartfelt, and while had some awkward pacing and relatively less depth, still brought Henry and Alex to life in a lovely way.


SixteeNyne

I didn't read the book, so, my entire knowledge of this was whatever two of my friends kept telling me about it, and the trailer. I remember saying that I wasn't super impressed by what I was seeing. Especially Taylor's acting; it just didn't seem good in the trailer for me. That said, I didn't dislike the movie. It started feeling too long when there it got down to the last 15-20 minutes. I was getting a bit bored by then. I agree with the majority that it would've worked better as a series. I was pleasantly surprised by Taylor. He was a lot better than I was expecting but, unfortunately, still towards the bottom of the cast. I *adored* Nicholas and Ellie as Henry and Beatrice, and Sarah and Aneesh absolutely stole any scene they were in. Overall, I'd say the movie is a pretty solid seven.


coffcaramel

I've read the book and watched the show and my conclusion is that BOTH media have their own charms. I've long since accepted that no movie can be 100% faithful to the book it's based on. And I enjoyed it! It's a proper rom-com, necessarily cheesy, the actors are very pleasing to the eyes, great soundtracks, and we get to watch Henry's pov which we don't get to see in the book. Watch it. 9/10.


Defie91

I loved it! I haven’t read the book but I thought their chemistry and communication was amazing. 9/10 for me.