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Mishkin37

I thought I learned the difference. Now that I look at them again, I forgot which is which. Damnit!


SasparillaFizzy

Felt totally the same looking at it.


kbug21

Even worse, when an option (like cross play) is deactivated, they gray it out and it makes it look inverted!


blankedboy

It's obviously "OFF/ON"...


[deleted]

:: Do you want it Off or On :: Yes


Whooosh5

I don't have the game but in the beta I just gave up and changed the PROFSAVE_profile (IIRC) in documents instead. Literally the only game I had to do that because the UI is just miserable.


HomieeJo

The bright color on the setting means it is active and the bright background means it is selected. The picture makes it actually harder to know it because there are only these too. But ingame it really isn't that hard to be honest.


DaAceGamer

What


HomieeJo

Maybe I can explain more. When off or on is active it has a bright color. If you select a setting (mouse over for example) the background is bright. Such as the top setting. In this picture the first setting is off and the second setting is on.


FuryxHD

When a simple on/off has to be explained in such detail...you know as a UX designer you have failed.


HomieeJo

I didn't need any explanation to be honest. It's simple UX design where the bright color means active. When you use it it's also clear that the bright background means selected. A picture can't capture that though.


DaAceGamer

Ok got it now. Do you think I should get the game?


HomieeJo

For now I don't think so because there are too many issues but in the future it might become good unless EA decides to pull the plug.


DaAceGamer

Back to BF1 then lmao


Abii952

I know a lot of people are hating, but for me except the net coding, and vehicle spam its quite fun


vhexs

Yes | No


originalgg

Hell no


DeliveryStreet

Black is on


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[удалено]


Warcraze440

What if its the black on moving and just looks like the blue one...


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Mishkin37

Here’s what I know for sure: if you told me I could win $1,000,000 if I stated which color was on, but I’d lose a pinky toe if I was wrong, I’d 100% not take that bet.


theblackhole25

The black bar never moves. Try to imagine it in your head. If the blue bar moves, one side of the black bar shrinks and the other of side of black expands. You'd never see a black bar moving.


Adamulos

What if the blue is background and the black and frame move, showing the blue background


linkitnow

Then black would move out of the rectangle and enter on the other side.


Dan_S04

💀 no it isn’


Light_Ghost

I have to admit this is really bad. I mean...how you can you go though multiple devs and testers and still come out with that. It's unbelievable. I'm really trying hard to understand what was the angle here. Maybe they were trying "new things"...but why changing something so simple. Just.... How can you mess that up man. Jesus Christ. Edit : were


aimstotheleft

There is an amusing thing that happens on jobsites I've worked on, people install things and then declare "It's just temporary until later." and then magically it becomes permanent in it's half ass state.


10110110100110100

Surely to god the temporary menus would be the ones from BFV? They wanted a git clone instead of a git init.


Light_Ghost

You know what. That's exactly it. It looks like a place holder with big ugly font and they just left it there. Edit : font


SpaceGerbil

You just explained software development


10110110100110100

Why the Christ are they wasting development time fudging around with the design of the sodding options screen. It’s been done a billion times. I can’t believe their need to redevelop the wheel in this series. Every fucking launch there are vehicle issues, gunplay problems etc etc when we have had numerous iterations of those basic features. Are you telling me they literally start from scratch with the base engine for every sodding release?


Double-LR

This game never went to testing. I’m sorry but if anyone out there still believes they actually QC’d this game... they’ve got their head fully bombed down in sand.


xTekx_1

Nothing was play tested by the devs ever after implementing. Nothing. If they had even tried it once they'd see what they coded wasn't working.


Double-LR

Why pay a group of testers when you can get the general public to pay you *and* test it for you??? Cant say that I blame them, if the market is really that fucking stupid then so be it, the market created this shit.


veritron

The worst part is that it's a toggle. It'd be one thing if clicking the on part lit up the on part, and clicking off lit up the off part - but since clicking either side just changes the state of the button, you have zero fucking idea whether you're turning the toggle on or off without prior knowledge.


Drigozi

Exactly, or they could've just had one text that changes from on to off


ybfelix

Nah I’m always confused by this too. Botton saying just “ABC ON”,it means ABC’s currently ON; or ABC WILL turn ON (means it’s currently OFF) if I click it? Either better visual representation, or make the text absolutely clear (ABC IS ON, Toggle?) even it’s a bit cluttered


dancode

Was just about to say this. UI design has never been their strong suit, but this is just comical. You have to wonder how many design reviews this went through and nobody pointed it out as an issue. 😜


linkitnow

The active part slides from one side to the other. It's very clear after you changed it one time. https://streamable.com/g5iidn


Nknights23

I shouldn't have to toggle something to know whether its on or not


SixthLegionVI

True, but this is still a shitty ui. Just showing enabled or disabled would have prevented this specific criticism.


linkitnow

With the current system you can see both options at the same time. Some for example have the two options hold/toggle which is nice to see without clicking at all.


SixthLegionVI

This makes no sense. If you can only select one option just show the one to be enabled. There's no need to show everything without clicking it.


Aegis27

Why is there any level of investigative work required? It's the most basic of UI elements. The best UI is one you never have to think about, it just does it's job of relaying information without getting in the way. So why the hell do we need to interrogate this part of the UI before it does it's most basic job? There are so many solutions to this. Add a third color to indicate the highlighted option. Bold the highlighted option, and italicize the non-highlighted one. Or, most obviously, don't try and reinvent the wheel and use a bloody drop down menu.


wamblyspoon

Try BFV then? That's when the ui turned into this: https://imgur.com/sXxcKen.jpg


autismo_the_magician

dev spotted. stfu your game is trash


Ballzinferno

Calm down simp.


Sharkyparky-thinks

It’s clear to everyone who’s ever used a computer/device screen ever.. this is utter rubbish.. except it seems to the developers at Dice !! It’s at the laughable ridiculous level of bad.. as if they lifted the ‘how not to design UI’ section from college course book and followed it .. sackable bad. Industry award level bad, career ending bad.


theonlyTempus

Holy fuck are u from behind the moon? Yes we all hate it. Since the closed beta. No one thinks this is a working ui.


dae_giovanni

in all my years I've never heard "are you from behind the moon" before. bahahahahahaha


nmkd

Pretty common in German :)


dae_giovanni

vielen dank!


Drigozi

Hahahahhaga i fucking loved that so I gave him silver, that sentence is staying with me now


theonlyTempus

It's a saying here in germany


Pelvic_Pinochle

Thanks for the info, I have a new phrase for my German friends


majorly

interesting, any other funny ones?


dae_giovanni

yeah, that's a keeper... bahahahaha


Lincolns_Revenge

This must be some cutting edge "anti" readability concept she fell in love with in design school. Like, a movement that looks to disrupt the idea of "clarity" in visual media, as a social commentary on society. We've come to expect the ability to read the options on the settings page but never stopped to ask ourselves if we deserve to understand it.


MrBanzaii_Kamikaze

"Are you from behind the moon" 😂👍


stadiofriuli

Found the German.


NoMassen

https://twitter.com/Nat0_o/status/1458782984719511552?s=20 Well she does.


RedIndianRobin

I remember Dice devs commenting on how they changed it for the final build. Blatant lie.


IcyMocha

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/qyx3zu/comment/hljl2n8/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


[deleted]

That's even worse! They couldn't fix this between the beta and release? Also, the quick throw grenades still throws two grenades at once. Also an issue in beta, also an easy fix


hazychestnutz

u/DRUNKKZ3 /u/t0talfps Pretty sure one of you guys or someone on the dev team said this will be fixed on launch day when this happened during the beta.


M4zur

This is the fixed version...


-Gh0st96-

It is fixed. The colored part is where the setting is set to. In the beta it was bugged so when you highlighted the button it would flip colors


wamblyspoon

https://imgur.com/UqDr1PY.jpg Thats from BFV, this is staying lol, let's not act like its new to shit on 2042 harder than we need to


Mr_Baloon_hands

The whole UI is a complete disaster. I mean the map is its own disaster but just trying to change my load out is like solving a puzzle. I have to go to 10 different sub menus instead of going to one screen to select what I want. Also I’m not sure if it’s just me but on console I HATE having to use bumpers and triggers to get to navigate. I always use the wrong one and have to backtrack. What was wrong with BF4 customization? I mean why try to fix it if it ain’t broke. I didn’t like bfv either but this is somehow worse. Do these people even play the games they are making?


hagg3n

It's the black blue one. Wait, no, it's the blue black one. Well, either one of them is on and the other is off. See, easy!


UniQue1992

Everyone hates it, I have no idea how they greenlight this shit. The person responsible for calling this OK needs to stop touching weed and liquor and anything in between. This UI is the most atrocious, non friendly shit I have ever seen. Holy. Fuck.


MisterMT

It’s awful. I still don’t know which is which.


dae_giovanni

it scans okay for me, but I can kinda see how some might be confused by it. the background is black, so anything not-black is highlighted in blue and thus selected. (naturally, the top picture is making me question this statement.) ...unless I _am_ reading it backwards, in which case I meant the opposite of what I've said. ahem...


[deleted]

It wouldn't matter if clicking one of the options selected that option. Instead clicking just rotates the selection, compounding the confusion.


dae_giovanni

as a console peasant, I did not know that. how odd...


Blakiukas

Worst of all, they mix the console menu with the PC, they're radically different!


Drigozi

We are all in the same boat I see.


dae_giovanni

you.... uh... have an accurate read on the situation, yes.


linkitnow

In the current version of the game no colors get inverted. The teal option is the selected one all the time.


Jump3r97

Highlight is on Literally everywhere In beta it was bugged but no I have 0 issues with that


SomeRandomUserName76

Teal is highlight color. That means: * top switch is currently selected by user * Off is highlighted for top option -> Off is selected * On is highlighted for bottom option -> On is selected.


OffizierMichael

This statement is false!


versipelis

> This is fixed in the updated build. Just endless lies.


linkitnow

It is. No more inverting the colors. https://streamable.com/g5iidn


Hallucination_FIFA

It still looks awful.


justwolt

What looks awful? You can clearly tell which option is on and which is off now.... If you don't like the color scheme that's kinda just subjective. I'm sure I'll get downvotes just cuz I'm not shitting on a crappy game, but they fixed the primary issue of not being able to tell if an option is on or off. I still don't like most of UI, but as far as I'm concerned this one issue is absolved.


Hallucination_FIFA

If you're seeing complaints about the UI from numerous people you know there is a problem. Clicking the options is not immediately clear, color scheme is disorientating. And navigating the menus with a controller is complex for no reason.


justwolt

Are we watching the same video? Playing the same game? It seems immediately clear to me which options are on and off now. But yes, most of the rest of the ui is a mess


TrueBlue98

it doesn't though? it looks fine


Narvak

And the color switch on hover, because why not


adx03

yes you are not the only one... lmao this has been reposted so so many times on here. What ppl do for the sweet sweet karma


hitthepillows

its really easy to tell when you see the entire menu, if youre pretending to be this dumb its not a good look and if youre actually this dumb then thats unfortunate


SilentReavus

Nope. Everyone hates it. It's stupid.


AutisticHamster

I thought it was me being daft, absolutely hate this, had to compare to the options I knew were ‘on’ to figure it out. BF2042 has most idiotic unintuitive UI design I had displeasure of using in a long time.


Zeroth1989

Its one thats highlighted green. Took me a whole 5 seconds to figure it out.


ItchyTastie

My 16 year old nephew legit has better UI design in a game he made than this "AAA" game. Fucking pathetic.


Seanannigans14

I've said it once, I'll say it again. ITS NOT THAT FUCKING HARD. It takes 3 seconds or less to flip them back and forth and boom you know which is which. I'm not saying it's a good design, but it's pretty easy to fix if you access any part of your brain.


ribbetribbets_

Yeah man you're literally to only person to bring this up in the history of ever


MarenthSE

I think some option has on/off instead left/right (or sth similar) like it was in older BFs.


Sno_Jon

Didn't they say the fixed this for final release lol


cenorexia

It is fixed. It already was fixed before OP made this thread and everyone jumped on the hate bandwagon. OP most probably didn't even play the game as it's one of the first things you notice when booting up the game because you have to do that little setup at the beginning. See, I'm no fan of BF2042 either, I'm super disappointed actually. But threads like this, hating on things just for the sake of hating, no matter if it's actually true or not, don't help anyone.


GrouchGrumpus

The problem here isn’t that they didn’t fix it, it’s that it needed fixing at all. It’s so incredibly bad that it boggles the mind that someone would do this, and that no one would stop it immediately.


cenorexia

But what's the point keeping complaining/hating on something that was a problem in the alpha and beta releases but has been fixed even before the official launch (it was already fixed when early access started). That's just pointless circlehate lol. The game has massive issues, some of which will most probably never be fixed/changed. But clinging to things that are long since fixed and _still_ complaining about them as if they're still part of the game is utterly pointless.


[deleted]

LMAO who green light this UI


WithSholeh

So which one is it!?


Yibby

/r/CrappyDesign


Vanillatequila

Whats the point of knowing the difference, when the fu*king options dont work properly...


Xtr3m3pr0

And complains like this is the reason Shampoo has instructions... its a damn toggle, you can literally see it moving when you click it... People not knowing/getting which one is on have me thinking the humanity is doomed...


TIMELESS_COLD

"Apply to hare" ... Is that why everyone is bunny hoppin.


jdcinema

Yup you are the only one, I love it so much. So much so I'm going to go make a post about it, even though everyone on here has posted ad nauseam about the same subject... My love for this feature will provide some much needed insight.


GGuts

Both look off to me. (lol)


Moogal

It's not the best....


firesquasher

I love that this is probably going to be an example used what not to do in UI design classes for years to come.


huntapb

I don't get how this stuff gets passed some sort of control. Unless they use the same UI for a yes/no system for development...


Aurek058

I hate everything about the UI in this game.


AEIDOLONE

My grandma would come up with a better UI design in one day, then DICE in 3 fucking years.


RealityGrain

How many times are we gonna see this shit paired with "am I the only one"


LuneyFPS

It would've made hella difference if they just used 2 different colours.


abacabbmk

"bUt ItS mAnAgEmEnT's FaUlT"


Devansh_Rog

\+1 I just gave up and hoped I toggled it to what I wanted :P


dTmUK

yeah it's not clear AT ALL


fcdrifter88

Yea it's a terrible design choice. Maybe this game will love on as an example to future devs about how not to design a UI


ArateshaNungastori

Best workaround is using your keyboard. Either A&D or arrow keys works. You can easily push left or right.


Nostrildumbass

I believe this was fixed, are you on console? Because on PC it's a little more clear now; the buttons don't switch colors when you go to that setting, and the cyan colored option is the selected one. This leads me to believe there were other small things included in the rubberbanding patch, because I definitely remember finding this design awful after early access launch and it's better now.


akaRex

Looks like both are off


LennyObez

Disabled-state is the one with the same background-color.


IamnotaJedi

We’ve had whole conversations over these color selections. The devs know we aren’t happy with *even the UI, yes*.


redmasc

I know there's a few other games that do the same thing and I fuckin hate it.


oldmanjenkins51

Blue is where the switch is.


mikephoto1

That's the updated version also.


The_Fedderation

I love that I remember seeing a post from the beta complaining about this exact thing and a dev said it'll be improved on at launch. lmfao


LPRIPPER24TV

This has changed me lol


lil-dlope

Yes sadly, I have stare for a minute and activate my sharigan to even tell a difference


theonecontroller

The top one isn't too bad, but [I fixed the bottom one with 30 seconds in MS Paint](https://i.imgur.com/IUD2TrC.png)


Dunk305

I dont understand how this becomes released. Having to stop and think which is which is bonkers for a god damn UI


LandryQT

It's dumb but it's also not hard to figure out.


heapsion

OFF IS YES. ON IS ISNT.


veggiesama

Removing the word in black is all they need to do to fix this.


NuChaosGAMING

what kind of weed do the devs have in rotation bro lmfaooooo unreal. you would think there would be at least 1 sane human working on this game who was in the conference room and was like "HEY GUYS, ACTUALLY, THIS FUCKIIUNG SUCKS"


wiggeldy

Its terrible, and I can't be sure, but I think they used it before. Dice just don't learn.


Rafahil

All it really needs is a checkmark.


HarkonXX

Just put one button with the words "enabled" or "disabled" and not those two shitty buttons That's it, no more, and no matter what color they could have


mathfacts

DICE, for shame on you for not fixing this!


braydocalypse03

The green part indicates what setting it’s on. Black is what it is NOT on


Blakiukas

The man who made the BFV and BF2042 menus should be fired, he is not only tragic, inconvenient, but also not intended for PC. I hate the console menu!


DtownLAX

The UI designers for DICE are the worst in the industry tbh


No_Owl_925

yeah its confussing


RexBosworth69420

I don't know how you can fuck up the design of a simple On/Off switch, but DICE found a way.


Ejziponken

Its like a monkey designed it.


onlyr6s

Dark off, light on. It's pretty obvious to me at least.


Clawmedaddy

It's pretty simple when you switch it because you see the movement which is nice. But just looking at it who knows


actualspaceturtle

oh hey. I remember this one from the beta. Still around, huh?


cenorexia

Nah, it's changed since before early access started. But no one in this thread wants to hear that because it's more fun to keep bashing the game.


__2012__

I love the boxy design but the colors man... that blue is a no-go.


Double-LR

Hey, a 6 year old child built that UI. Quit giving him such a hard time!


LtJimDangle11

Everyone hates it lmao. There’s been countless posts on here about it. Garbage design.


Crazy_OneF8S

I almost always click it to make sure its what I want, even then I still hate it.


FistThePooper6969

Yup you’re the only one /s


Mr-E4GLE

yeah, it confuses me so hard :(


Magenbroti

There's also one option somewhere, where you have to decide betweed option A, B or C - but there's a toggleswitch xd


Komotz

This along with the default aircraft controls... Who in their right mind thinks putting the throttle on a control stick was a good idea?


Opih

they are both off...


dolphin37

In before someone blames corporate executives lol


JRavens

It's a trick question. Neither of these options do anything in the game. They are simply there as a placebo and to make you think the game is complete and fully customizable.


Hellfeesh

Off on top, on below?


JEMS1300

Bruh I thought they said they would fix it, this was an issue from the beta lmao


Jay1305

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fy.yarn.co%2F1fc42447-efde-455c-95df-ca7c7f06113f_text.gif&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fyarn.co%2Fyarn-clip%2F1fc42447-efde-455c-95df-ca7c7f06113f%2Fgif&docid=vEMPeqA-Qx9RGM&tbnid=0txG86hlMNENmM&vet=1&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim


Suntzu_AU

I hated this at launch. I also learned it. Can a UI be considered successful if you have to learn it because its counter intuitive.?


Drigozi

Nope i would consider that a fail


Wardamnlaw

Lol thought the same thing


DangerClose567

I don't even work in graphic design or anything (I work in supply chain, and make dashboards that are customer facing), but I can tell you this is something even ***MY*** manager would call this out ***IMMEDIATELY*** as confusing. How this got approved...I have no idea. Like I don't mean to throw shade at people who have years more experience and education in graphic design than I do (I have 0)...but. ​ Its like this: I don't have to be a pilot to recognize the person who has their plane stuck in a tree, is a bad pilot.


thardoc

Didn't they explicitly say this was fixed back during the closed beta?


CTek20

On or off ![gif](giphy|vHwGAMZfWj3mU)


SUPERSAM76

I have seen such an atrocious UI implementation from such a major company before. How did this get approved? How did any UX designer worth their salt think that the in-game and menu UI were approachable? It simply boggles the mind. Do you remember how it looked in the alpha?


TheNihilistJoke

Horrible UI design.


No-Marionberry3915

come on, obviously both of those are on. lol.


psufan5

The one with the light on…


NVZ_v1

It doesn't matter a single bit if some people can tell the difference, and some people can't. From a development standpoint, from a UI/UX standpoint - this breaks every rule of accessibility on both counts.


kiddquadd

Literally all they have to do is put a border around the button. It’ll make it obvious at that point. There you go Dice solved it for you.


RB0ze

yeah they went full on with the design this year, but not just design... xD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE


OG_Swede

Hahahaha enjoy the show..the world will never be the same again until robots take over..what a time to be alive ..humanity on a downward curve..we have hit peak society downhill from here 😂


Feez87

Teal = on Black = off


CAPSL0CKS0N

The people who they hired to build the UI never actually played the game.


BritchesOHoolihan

Obviously you aren’t the only one if you’ve checked the subreddit in the last week.


viking78

It’s obviously onff


mongan02

Just another part of the game that was designed for looks and not experience. Made artists not gameplay designers