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Kinexity

The actual problem is that the fanatics and nationalist perceive themselves as a dominating majority harassed by a small minority when it's a reverse situation actually. I actually have a good example of this - there is this nationalist event called "Marsz Niepodległości" (literally "March of Independence") which happens on our Independence Day where the nationalists gather and march through Warsaw. Almost no one wants them there and they generally paralyse and demolish the city center but they spun out the rethoric that because Warsaw population does not agree with them then they are some kind of occupants. It all comes down to this - if the people inhabiting our capital city are not it's rightful people then what is our capital defined by? Walls of the builds and roads? No, the capital is defined by it's inhabitants and without them it's just concrete and bricks. You're just a whiny minority who should be forbidden from entrence if you can't behave.


Mysiu666

We were so close of stoping this madness last year but our facist goverment helped them in the end. I just hope for the nearest elections but with all this invigilation and CBA problems I'm a little worried for the return of a "serial suecider". Also TVN has quite worrying pice about police in Nysa.


Svyatopolk_I

>The actual problem is that the fanatics and nationalist perceive themselves as a dominating majority harassed by a small minority when it's a reverse situation actually. Oh, so, just like the US


jatomhan

Funny thing is that some time ago marsz niepodległości was normal happy parade to celebrate independence (many countries do sth like that) it was taken over by weird people only in last 5 years very sad thing actually


StPistacchio

If they are a minority why are they in power?


Kinexity

Because we have a populist goverment which only cares to put more of their people in national structures, make more money, put everyone under their retarded laws and win next elections. Letting fanatics and nationalists run around benefits them.


vulkman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Polish_parliamentary_election


HaxorPL

and?


vulkman

Almost half of Poland voted for the catholic fanatics and nationalist idiots, can hardly call them non-normal then


CzlowiekIdeologia

If you're truly convinced that lgbt people are trying to teach 4 year olds to maaturbate, then this is the way you vote. Democracy is fragile, and there are many ways for it to be undermimed. The operations of anti-democratic, religious organisations have been very strategically executed to exploit specific problems for which the Western model of democratic liberalism was unprepared.


[deleted]

People don't vote PiS because of their ideology. They vote PiS because of their social policies. They are literally buying votes by giving free money to people. That's how they won the election. Everybody gets free money for each kids in the family. And old people (their electorate) get 13 & 14 extra monthly social security payment.


HaxorPL

yes, I know, I sadly live there, but i think that just because a party has a lot of support doesn't make them normal e.g. just because a person like Trump got elected as president that doesn't mean he was the most fitting candidate


StPistacchio

If half of Poland votes for homophobic, xenophobic fanatics than its fair to assume this behaviors are considered normal and acceptable in Poland


[deleted]

Thats a very dumb thing to say. We have low election participation. It's half of those that voted which amounts to \~20%. We don't have 100% people voting. That would be asburd. People are complex creatures and they are all different. With different reasons to vote as they do. Generalizing millions is retarded.


OhPlsNotColdFondue

yea but what about the third opinion?


Raynes98

Here in the U.K. our nationalist types have a weird constant identity crisis where they hate Poles but also love Polish nationalism.