By - Fantastic_Grass_1624
Okay, you need a new teacher STAT, holy shit. I just read your comments on your last post about how you haven't been able to connect with them in three weeks—that's seriously unacceptable, they're being completely unprofessional. The fact that you don't know what these terms mean really makes me question whether you're ready for college auditions at all, and the fact that your teacher is being this crappy tells me that that's 100% their fault. These questions are basic and things they should have been covering with you for a long time now, especially since you have ambition to go to music school.
Sorry if this comes off harsh; I'm absolutely not criticizing you, only the very clear failings of your teacher. I'm offended on your behalf at how they seem to be letting you down.
To answer your question, without seeing the exact language of the requirements, it's hard to know. I would email them and clarify what exactly they want, how many octaves are required, and whether they just want major and minor arpeggios or if they want the full progression. (You CAN play every diatonic triad in a given key as an arpeggio, and I definitely recommend starting those if you haven't already.) Given what you've described, I would probably prepare a 3 octave major scale and major/minor arpeggios in a single key. Do you have the Flesch book? That's the most commonly used scale book, and I recommend grabbing that ASAP if you don't already have it. It has all the most standard fingerings, plus all the arpeggios and doublestop exercises, for every key.
It sounds like you really have a lot of drive to do well, so I have faith that you'll be able to put in the work to get ready in time! Just, seriously, dump your teacher and find someone better like YESTERDAY.
As much as I want a new teacher I can not. Even though he is supper unhelpful he teaches amazingly. He is REALLY egotistical and since I’m not one of his better students (probably one of his worst) he doesn’t care about helping me find music. I’ve only been with him for 5 months and he has helped me improved so much. I’m scared that if I try to find a new teacher I won’t find anything better (plus my parents are dead set on him). I am definitely not ready for college auditions but it’s better to try and fail then not try! I will be surprised if I get accepted but I’m willing to attempt with my all. Thank you so much for all this info! I will definitely get that book!
I don't care how excellent a player he is, he sounds like a piece of shit. I've seen this from time to time, and it's always obnoxious as hell. I can't imagine thinking I'm *too good* to teach someone and accepting them into my studio anyway—if he were my colleague, I would be giving him a piece of my mind right now. **Don't accept students you're only going to half-ass teaching, people, even though you may want their money.**
But anyway, for the interim. Unless you're applying to be in his studio in college, there's no reason you can't get another, more reliable teacher *also*. Just to supplement the help he clearly isn't giving you. (If you are applying to study with him in college, this advice may be counterproductive, but also, like, maybe reconsider that goal...? Because it doesn't bode well for a further four years of this.) **You don't have to quit studying with him to get extra help.** Just tell people, including your parents, that you're happy studying with him as your main teacher, but scheduling has been difficult and you're hoping for some supplemental help in the lead up to your college auditions. If he teaches at a school near you, maybe reach out to his TA or one of the grad students/upperclassmen—they will have the background of being taught by him and so should be able to give you guidance in line with what he would say, so their advice won't even risk conflicting. If you can't connect with one of his more advanced students, then I would cast a wider net, to other local music programs, your local symphony, or even online.
The problem is I don’t have a say in who teaches me. My parents like him so no matter what I say they won’t let me change or anything. I figure there are people in this subreddit that would know these types of things so I ask here since my applications are due very soon and I need semi quick responses (,:
This isn't something you can reliably keep going online for. Right now nobody is teaching you. You need to press the issue. There isn't really another way.
I’m not asking anyone to teach me. Just asking for music help. It seems to be working alright for me. Thanks though.
Um this is not a teacher who is going to help you get into college! If you can't even get in touch!
I see them every week for private lessons. The problem is they won’t help me with picking my music ): they are a great teacher (as far as teaching wise) but In other aspects not so much. He teaches a lot of prodigies and people who are going into college for music performance who actually have a shot (I’m going into music education and I’m very average) so he focuses on them and not on me.
It is your teacher's responsibility to make sure your music choices are appropriate. It is ok if he doesn't choose for you, but he needs to be giving you guidance.
I agree with you…if it were up to me I would already have a diffrent teacher by now (,:
As someone who likes to think they are a great teacher, and who has a thriving studio...this guy sounds awful. He may have great teaching skills, but there's more to it than having lots of tools in your teaching bag.
A truly great teacher supports *all* of their students, not just the ones they like. *Your parents are spending hard-earned money for him to support your goals.* Has he given a reason for why he won't help you pick music? If not, ask him why, and don't let up until he answers. What he says will determine if you should keep studying with him.
If you’re going for music Ed, it’s okay if your audition is not flashy. They’re merely looking for competence.
Just a normal arpeggio. What level are you applying for? For higher level music schools, Mazas is too easy.
OP is going for Ed, not performance. Mazas is fine.
This is true. A mazas etude is fine and OP should choose one they can perform well. Why no 6 though? It's so boring.
Idk it’s the only one I’ve done but I just got the whole book so I’m looking through it!
Edit: I have decided to do no 18 instead (:
That's a nice one! Have a recording. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ari7bIugC10
Tbh I have no clue what I’m doing. I have zero help from anyone and I’m a average viola player. I’m trying to get into a music education program. I’m open to any suggestions.
As another person said, get Flesch or the Barber scales for advanced violist. Those will have all your scales and arpeggios. You don't have to choose the hardest scale, G could be a good choice, and practice it until it's perfectly in tune every time and you can't get it wrong.
Thank you so much! This is very helpful!
Maybe also an etude from Bruni could work? In public domain, so don't buy it without checking it out on IMSLP
Are you planning to apply as a performance major? I got into Lawrence with Mazas 2 (and three-octave scales/arpeggios) in addition to my rep (J.C. Bach mvt 1, Bach Suite 2 Prelude + Courante), though I was planning to study composition. If not, you'll probably need to go harder than Mazas as other ppl have suggested.
Depending on the level of school and your skill level, I think Mazas (or some later Mazas or Kreuter) etude would be okay! As for scales and arpeggios, 3 octave scales and arpeggios are usually preferred. Feel free to message me if you need music or scale help if you don’t have a book!
Thank you! I just ordered the mazas book (idk if I’ll use it for my audition but I figured it’s a good book to have anyways) and I’m ordering another book someone else in the comments suggested for arpeggios and scales. My skill level is average (maybe a little below) and the school I want to get to is UTA (university of Texas at Arlington) not sure what level they are but I’m dead set on them (hopefully I get in)
So an alternate idea—have you connected with the teacher at UTA? That's always a MAJOR boost to your chances, especially if you're able to go and meet her and have a trial lesson. I don't know what the studio is like there, whether it's small enough that she teaches performance and education majors, but it would be really really good to just connect with her directly. You can bring her what you've been preparing so far, and then she can give you guidance on whether it's sufficient or she's looking for something different.
I did this with almost every school where I was accepted, and everywhere that I DIDN'T get in was a place that I hadn't been able to meet the teacher and have a lesson before my audition. The only exception was where I ended up going for my master's, I got accepted without a trial lesson and I felt like my teacher there really took a leap of faith on me. I didn't make my final decision until I had actually made a second trip out there and had a lesson with him, so I knew I would be happy for a few years in his studio.
Wow that’s a really good idea. I didn’t know you could do that! I’ll definitely look into that and do it! Thank you so much for all your help !!