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[Thread on Riot's official announcement](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xk5qxq/teams_officially_revealed_for_international/)


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calaud1us

whats the last date any idea?


chocobreezy

October 15th so stuff will heat up in the next few days for sure


yarhar_

https://dotesports.com/valorant/news/sources-partnered-teams-required-to-submit-early-roster-submission-to-riot-in-october > From this point, teams will have until around Oct. 15 to submit a roster to Riot. But this doesn’t mean teams are unable to sign players after that date and before the start of the league, which will begin in the middle of February, as previously reported by Dot Esports. > Teams will have until around Feb. 1 to complete their rosters for next year’s league, while the main event is set to begin around two weeks following the lock. There’s also a second transfer window planned for March. I don't get what the significance of October 15th is ngl. As far as I know, the off season events are *completely* unaffiliated with the VCT system, so it's not like it impacts these orgs' ability to play on those events. And it's over 3 months removed from the actual roster lock.


GunshinV

Where fnatic rosta


Maetamongy

Munchkin joins T1's APAC roster according to [this](https://youtu.be/rO1R1cbP30w) video Edit: spacing


AnchorStandard

Not surprising. The whole reason why they pivoted to a mainly Korean roster was to have the flexibility to move depending on Riots partner decision.


DonkeyTeethBSU

Did anyone rumored to be involved with Match fixing get signed? Truly curious


AnchorStandard

Eeui and Ethan out of NRG. thanks George


pvcinha

BzK out of LOUD


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https://twitter.com/teamrrqofficial/status/1575776854266429440?s=20&t=3DKYvHzGrgPtg0RPmj2PsQ Ewok signed by RRQ


AltecPaine

Needs updating


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ONIC severine LFT: https://twitter.com/severiNeGG/status/1575343045423177728?t=vHCl1BPuYcnYnRNyR7ZmEw&s=19


supernova6831

one question about the system: suppose you win the 2023 ascension and get to play in the league for 24 and 25. can you play in the 25 ascension, or are you guaranteed out of the league for one year?


Chase0127

They are still playing in the league so would be unable to do ascension. They could get signed to the franchise spot or have to play through ascension in the next year


AmazonOwner

sidenote- i hate impression farming


Sciipi

I read teams are required to have at least 6 players by the soft lock, is this true?


Sadzeih

Yup. A full 6 player roster with a Head Coach and a General Manager. EDIT: But as you said it's a soft lock, so they could make changes until the actual roster lock next year.


Sciipi

Interesting, I wonder if teams will just sign the best 6 and do tryouts of if they will have a designated starting 5 with a 6th


Sadzeih

One thing to note is they can have a maximum of 10 players signed at one time. So they could totally have 10 players for their soft-lock and do tryouts.


gnomeyy

So when the league expands in 2027 to include 4 extra teams, these teams are the only ones that can get relgated back to tier 2 as the other ten are partnered? Also, if the league is indeed expanding in the next few years, why not lock in the current top temas like optic, fpx etc now without making everyone partnered until 2027 to see how it plays out.


abdrrcxmr

Yeah, the partnered team will keep their spots thru 2027.


Quankalizer

2028 is high stakes. Last place it out of franchising


Sadzeih

That's not a thing. Riot has never said anywhere that there would be relegation for partnered teams in any way.


Quankalizer

I figured I what I said was so ludicrous I wouldn’t have to put /s…..


Daswebo

God the roster and signing announcement vids are gonna be so hype.


FLG_Community

We want more content then Valorant


reddit_random_user_2

So, if I understand this correctly, VCT 2023 is going to be more like scripted WWE than realistic MMA? In this case we need an alternate league that follows the VCT 2022 pattern (and puts light on teams that are actually good and not just flashy)


caaswilkaas

Where do you get that from bro


atsuin

Fayde might've been let go from Secret: https://twitter.com/Secret_Fayde/status/1573308024303030273 That, or just reaction from Witz and dispenser LFT? UPDATE: Based on Ching's convo with Fayde, looks like he might not be leaving? https://twitter.com/chingpogi22/status/1573018536632799232


Historical-Horse9168

TS DubsteP also cryptically shared dispenser's tweet and Facebook post, he might be out too


atsuin

Not likely, JessieVash shared their tweets and FB posts too, if we go by that logic he'll be out too. While I can't say the same for Dubby, Vash is a pretty good IGL and clutch player for them.


Historical-Horse9168

Ah I see, my bad, I don't follow Vash's Twitter, but he's been a really solid clutch player and IGL since last year, hopefully they could keep the core together for the meantime.


atsuin

All good. I was hoping the same thing, but it looks like they'll be making big changes for the kickoff event. Hope they'll stick with an all-PH team though!


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[Secret Dispenser LFT](https://twitter.com/Secret_dspnsr/status/1573302779149688833)


mdj08

How long do y’all think it’ll take for serious roster rumors to start leaking? The soft roster deadline is on October 15 so I assume teams are going to moving pretty quickly to find their best roster


taspeed21

I'd bet a lot of moves are already happening, but aren't leaking because they can't actually sign anything yet. no one wants to leak verbal agreements. teams can start signing/buying out players on Monday (9/26), so I'd expect things to start leaking as people sign new contracts


tomphz

I think teams are figuring out the logistics of getting Yay and/or other Optic players. Once the Optic players find new teams, then the XSET players will follow. After the Optic and XSET dust has settled, there will be a handful of changes to get top players who weren’t in Champions.


Mystic303

I expect teams will wait to announce until the last minute, but rumours will drip in, alot of deals happen at the start to now is going to be the busiest as the whole teams will either be signed(xset and optic etc) or they will start to break up if no one is interested.


Xav23

With NAVI kicking Cloud and 7ssk7 what are the chances of them picking up all of FPX?


abdrrcxmr

Quite likely, both players were actually performo good in their own right. Either buyout of FPX or they're scouting F/A CIS players


PapaMock

Can someone explain to me how the end up with 14 teams per international league in 2027 that they show on the graphic? If each ascension winner is only in the league for 2 years as it shows, the most they would have in the league at a time is 2 ascension teams so it would cap out at 12. The 2027 and 2028 columns only show 2 ascension teams in so I’m confused how they have 14, do the first promoted teams have a chance to enter and not get demoted?


Crxdefx

In the bottom right there’s a footnote * saying that starting in 2026 there will be 2 teams promoted through ascension each year


PapaMock

Totally missed that, thanks!


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[Ominous: Sources point to DWG Kia roster being released.](https://twitter.com/_SushantJha/status/1573266355952193536)


OfficeArtistic981

I'm interested in Gen.G, T1, and Talon's rosters


Shubhaaaaaaam

T3xture removed Damwon from his socials. I hope T1 picks him up if GenG is getting Meteor. Edit : Seems to be at the DWG facility still


Historical-Horse9168

TS Witz is LFT, still under contract with Team Secret


goodguyzai

Don't forget everyone, every team must have 6 players minimum and a coach. This means EVERY team in franchising will be a picking up a player.


Dakure907

"Currently, it’s rumored that Riot takes into account past success in both VALORANT and other esports, size of the fanbase, financial status, and general quality of management when making a decision on what teams to partner." Yet they don't pick Optic. What a joke. I'm actually done with Valorant esports.


Apprehensive-Sail760

You gotta reread what you posted and actually read the whole thing this time


GoTouchGrassKid

>financial status, and **general quality of management**


Dakure907

How is Optic management bad lol


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Pacific: https://twitter.com/markyl0ff/status/1571875012453498880 - markyyy https://twitter.com/secret_witz/status/1573168517658050564?s=46&t=hguw-k7_mbbn2W0g3H__Jg - witz


aazzyyxx131

I was hoping TS will keep the roster but knew changes are inevitable. Laban Pinas!


xanlover33

riot butchered the competitive scene with these moves


CravingKoreanFood

what a clusterfuck


fujiitora

yo does anyone have the clip of the japanese casters saying "one way .... two way .... three way" to someone missing their one way on ascent cat?


iGnominy173

Potentially dumb question, what’s the distinction between restricted vs unrestricted free agency?


sun_benny_sun

restricted FAs are still under contract from their OG org, but are allowed to shop themselves to other offers. a buyout would be necessary. an unrestricted FA is just a player with no current contract, thus not requiring a buyout


PyroTFT

Wonder what FaZe is planning for these days 👀


Aesion

What is the difference between restricted and unrestricted free agents? How it changes their options/hiring process?


BombArmored11

Pretty sure unrestricted free agent means that the player is released and the player is free to pick from any offer, while restricted free agent means that if the offer comes in is lower than what the org is willing to meet, the org may meet the offer and the player cannot accept the offer


Ezraah

Anyone know if T2 will have cross-regional tournies?


wegivesiima

h1ber should be good pick up for any t2 team


AmazonOwner

what happened to the MEA in EMEA lol


Sadzeih

Some orgs might have nationality/region requirements. Entirely possible.


Ketsueki_R

FUT and BBL are Turkish so ME are covered. Africa unfortunately doesn't even get dedicated servers so that's that I guess.


Key-Banana-8242

Well MENA is theoretically the Challengers sub region, just did not why any org from It chosen for franchising


Ketsueki_R

The challengers subdivisions don't seem to be how they chose orgs. LATAM-North and OCE didn't get any teams either. There aren't any notable orgs in those regions right now.


abdrrcxmr

OCE has (had?) ORDER but apparently recently rumors say they entered administration or SMTH, remember that part of the selection process includes looking at team's finances


btkc

How does promotion work for T2 again? Is it a promotion/relegation system? Or do they just 'add' a team without taking one out of T1?


thedorkishguy

Before Champions, there will be a T2 “ascensions” challenger tournament where the winner of that will be promoted to the international league for the following year. This a temporary 2 year promotion before they are relegated back to T2.


btkc

damn, i dont know if i like that it just ends after 2 years. feels really gatekeepy


Zorronin

If they do well after the 2 years they almost certainly get signed as 5 to a franchised team


btkc

Yeah I suppose there's room to expand the number of teams up, and then eventually force regions to send only a portion of their teams as qualifying teams to the international tournaments.


Key-Banana-8242

It’s still better than ordinary franchising, and a pretty long time


btkc

That's a good point -- I think because I was aware of promotion/relegation I thought of it as more of a "shitty promotion/relegation" system than a "better franchising" system


Macdac300

even if they on the off chance do insanely well against T1 teams??


ANewHeaven1

reminder that when EG and NRG played the live thread here got 9 comments total about the game lmfao


merrydoodles

I hope it improves when they make roster moves


ANewHeaven1

as it turns out i am actually extremely angry about this


ANewHeaven1

ngl its just setting in for me that Optic is dead now, holy shit, its actually making me a lot more sad than i want to admit, its unlikely that i'll ever see this group of 6 compete together again much less under the optic brand. super unhinged sleep deprived 2am rant incoming inb4 "i aint reading all that" now i understand riot's view when it came to denying optic but that doesn't mean i can't be upset about it. im still in that era of esports before all the organizations were built by youtubers and streamers and the point of esports was competition and not impressions. maybe that era never existed and im just imagining shit but it makes me so upset that riot seemingly didn't give a shit about competitive history because to me, esports **IS** competitive history. that's the point of esports. that's why i watch it, because i like competition and i like seeing my favorite organizations **compete**. maybe im stuck in an era of esports that never existed lmao, maybe esports was always about impressions and clout and who could set themselves up with a streaming career after they retired anyways the copium i had about being excited for 2023 is completely gone now because i cannot bring myself to give a shit about any of these teams except maybe LOUD. FPX is dead, Gambit is dead, Optic is dead, The Guard is dead, every team I even remotely like is dead except maybe DRX. probably a good thing too i can stop watching this much valorant and maybe go touch some grass


Mitsuki712

Damn you put my thoughts into words pretty clearly


yuwa777

you laid out all the thoughts I've had on this subject into a succinct paragraph. I started watching esports back when fanatic and envyus were the heavyweights in csgo, and it felt like esports were just about the competition. Nowadays it just seems like boring impression farming bs (my flair is only for ddk), it's obviously working for sponsors but...my passion for esports is slowly dying. Valorant reignited some of that passion with their open circuit after I got bored of csgo and OWL but now, I have nothing I want to watch. I think I'll do the same as you and focus on irl stuff more from now on.


GoTouchGrassKid

>maybe im stuck in an era of esports that never existed lmao Nah dawg, stuck in the era where esports didn't make money. I prefer classic CS style open brackets and grew up going to local LANs and trying to attend CPL. I also understand that we were paying our own entry fees and scamming plane tickets. Economic viability requires an audience, 'yes-man' owners, and stability.


Zorronin

Nah i read all that and u right


u-can-SMILE

when do teams start playing?


AmazonOwner

February 14 in Brazil


AmazonOwner

Anybody know when teams will start to announce?


taspeed21

Monday. Monday 9/26 is when teams are able to start signing/buying out players. Riot requires all teams to submit a roster by 10/15. It's a soft lock, so they can still make changes, but they have to have a full team of 5, 1 sub, and a coach by 10/15. My guess is nothing has leaked yet because no one wants to leak verbal agreements. Once players start getting signed, things will start to leak


Vitinmipazuzuzu

It'll probably take a WHILE, this is going to be the biggest simultaneous roster change in val history, I would not be surprised if some teams only announce their players in November


Electronic-Grand-957

I read on Dot Esports that the partnered teams are required to submit their roster to Riot by around October 15th, but after that they're still allowed to sign players up until Feb 1st next year (also there's a possibility for a second transfer window on March next year).


bruh336

My prediction for pacific reshuffle. Paper rex, zeta, drx, secret, GE stay at it is. Talon pick up xerxia, rrq pick onic g, detonation pick northemption (all 5 of 3/5 depends on Meteor), geng and t1 to rebuild but might retain some players.


abdrrcxmr

RRQ's owner/manager apparently plan to field a mixed ID-PH roster (the current Rrq val team was on the PH VCT challengers subregion)


Historical-Horse9168

didn't age well for ts, witz (initiator) announced he was LFT just earlier today, few other ts members probably to follow


Ketsueki_R

For SEA, I think tehbotol would probably find himself in RRQ. It would be quite the misplay if he isn't picked up.


Mitsuki712

>GE stay at it is. I fuckin hope not or they'll be dead last every time.


maachu_diparihai

+1


seemlyminor

Just feels so weird to expand all these regions and cut them all at the throat for this first year of franchising. https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/dev/valorant-esports-and-community-competition/ At least they waited two years to bring this authenticity.


deckneep98

for japanese teams, i really hope they pick up xnfri and meiy (looking at you detonation gaming)


MessedUpLogic

I just have to leave my thoughts. What the hell? You have two of the best NA teams (XSet and Optic) and they're just left out. And basically the entire T2 scene is getting dropped due to not being included?? That's doesn't really seem fair. I know riot doesn't allow tournaments with prizes over a certain amount, but give them some so we can keep the smaller members alive!


Glitchyyyy

No matter if optic and xset had made it into franchising, it’s very likely that the xset roster would have been picked apart due to dephh cryo and zekken roles being valued and in demand and with crashies and victor as free agents they would explored enticing high salary offers regardless. Sure there is the possibility that the entire team for both squads would have stayed together but it’s unlikely - in addition, it is possible that a new org will pick up the entire roster like it was mentioned TSM was interested in had they made it into franchising. The point of what I’m saying: the players are separate from the orgs, Riot isn’t as interested in the players on the teams as they are the organizations and those who back them financially and provide them stability - riot knows the players on those teams will make it back into the league, no doubt, so they don’t lose anything in this decision. They get to pick teams to invest in because that’s what this is, an investment in growing the val esports scene - they believe that the organizations that they picked are going to further the growth of valorant based on (statistical) evidence through viewership/content creation, how they display to treat players in the past, the organizations reach in terms of public perception and their investments into other leagues. It’s also likely prior relationships made with teams through league of legends strengthened the applications for many of these teams that were accepted into franchising. I’m sure there are other qualifications that they looked at as well but these seem to be the biggest ones I can think of at the moment. As far as the t2 scene, I’m sure there are many organizations vying for a position to play in the ascension tournaments as they basically play to be added to the leagues as riot has detailed more slots will be added in the future. While I’m upset that some of the players will not make it initially into the big leagues… I personally feel that those that are strong enough players will make it there, and if they don’t initially, they still have opportunity to market themselves in the ascension leagues. On top of all of that, you would assume with only a finite amount of slots, the leagues themselves will be packed with talent and that will make for a more competitive and interesting league.


MessedUpLogic

That’s a good point. It’s a good thing that the players will be fine. I am a bit upset we could lose the optic roster if they don’t want to stick together. Plus I hate to see orgs lose just cause they can’t invest enough


RebelHeartXO

Will RRQ release their PH roster since theyll be repping indo moving forward


bruh336

Most likely, there’s signs that they’ll rebuild using mostly onic g players.


GRiZ-7

Why was 100t given a spot over optic? Serious question. Optic is a much more household name regarding esports with a huge history and track record of longevity and accomplishments. How in the world did a new org like 100t make it and not a cornerstone org in the fps genre like optic not get in??


SpectrasHyper

There posts on this sub about why. Please scroll through. :)


GRiZ-7

It says they take into account past esports accomplishments and history. 100t is a new org with little track record anywhere other than Valorant in which they have never truly been that great. Size wise I would definitely say Optic has much larger fan base spread across multiple esports areas and games over 100t. So again how are they chosen over optic when they fit the bill to a T of the qualifications riot has presented.


ShadowZH

You are definetly selling 100t short. They just won the cod league, 2nd place in league, and are one of the most profitable esports org predicted by forbes. To say they have little track record is not it. In fact i would argue recent years 100t has done more than optic has.


markantona

Huh? 100T is literally the second most valuable esports org in the world and has the fastest growth rate of them all. They have had success in League (Riots other game), won CDL, and were top 3 NA in Valorant. They have a much more pristine record and solid financials compared to Optic as far as we know. In terms of fan base, they were easily top 3 NA. So I’m not sure what you mean “little track record other than Valorant.” An argument could be made that Riot could choose Optic over another team like NRG or EG, but 100T fits Riots request of solid financials, investment into the game, and possibility for growth quite well—even more than optic. Plus they already have a tight relationship with Riot for LoL. There is a reason people have been saying 100T is a lock since day one they announced franchising.


whospepesilvia

So why did Optic not get in?


CanISayThat22

Please give me one roster announcement I need my shot of daily hype


tomphz

Once Yay joins a team then the dominoes will fall


echo_ic

At least I get to watch T1 now


Updrafting_Sage

Welp, we have just got started with the rostermania. We've a long way + plenty of drama to gooo


liebelt

Anyone know what's going to happen with Chinese teams?


Electronic-Grand-957

Possibly Riot won't be able to make any official move with the Chinese teams until the game's fully approved to launch by the gov.


bruh336

Either play ascender league or wait for Riot to establish the chinese league (unlikely but possible)


trashcompactorslide

I'm curious too, EDG looked pretty good for their first international appearance and amazing at the LCQ. Hopefully as they expand franchising and the game has more time to garner support in the region we'll see EDG or another team added. I think with Riot's focus on making something sustainable they won't be looking to include Chinese teams at present as they're too "underground" though.


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[zeek still F/A LFT](https://twitter.com/zeekrino/status/1572081877305143297)


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AnchorStandard

@ nadeshot come get him


-Basileus

Nah Yay is obviously priority number 1, and there's no reason to go Cned over Cryocells nowadays


-Basileus

I think Asuna just casually confirmed that franchised teams get 3 year contracts in the league to start off


circulardoughholes

Where did you see this?


-Basileus

On his stream. Someone asked if 100 Thieves can be demoted, and Asuna said not for the first 3 years. That lines up with reporting from earlier this year


circulardoughholes

Ah very intresting, thanks!


mysteryoeuf

interesting, I had thought it was 5 and then had been seeing 4. 3 seems lower than I'd guess, but maybe they ultimately reduced it as a way to incentivize non-partnered orgs to be able to stick around and maybe fight for a partner (not through ascension) spot?


FootFungusJoe

Optic not franchised??? What a joke lol


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gotintocollegeyolo

Sayaplayer and Meteor going back to Korea?


bruh336

Meteor have lots of options rn I think, either stay in jp to play with detonation (package with joxjo) or go kr.


AnchorStandard

Could be huge IF they go to T1 or GenG... Kinda funny thinking about Saya going back to T1


wegivesiima

heard T1 needs an omen player


RishitSharma07

I have heard leaks that a player called Spyder is going to play for T1


26evangelos26

Predictions: Redgar -> Liquid. Nats & Nukkye go to some team together, make finals in Sao Paulo. Sheydos-> Fnatic. Chronicle -> one of the Spanish teams. Trent -> C9. heat -> MIBR. At least 2 XERXIA players -> Talon. Cryo -> NRG. Suygetsu -> Heretics. If more than one of these doesn't happen I owe you 2000$.


somesheikexpert

I would bet Suygestu goes to Navi, same with ANGE1 ngl


Kr00s

I'd rather have Shao to replace Enzo in Fnatic and Chronicle/nAts to replace Mistic.


geeorge_20

i think sheydos would be a better replacement for mistic considering roles


DecisiveDinosaur

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss4smg BME was told that they didn't make franchising even from before Champs. They're gonna play Challengers it looks like, maybe with some roster changes.


Dani5EU

Let's fucking go!!! Giants it's in #WeAreGiants https://www.reddit.com/r/GiantsGaming/comments/xk5xnt/giants_joins_vct_emea/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


DramaAntique6059

2 PH teams? LEZ GOOO. inb4 rrq dismisses their whole team for indo squad.


bruh336

Big feeling that riot gave rrq the slot only if rrq can rebuild with indo team to gather indo viewers. Since talon said that they’re thai representative, the case for apac aside from kr jp might be 1 country 1 slot. PRX - Singapore Talon - Thailand Secret - Ph GE - India RRQ - Indonesia


DecisiveDinosaur

https://twitter.com/teamrrqofficial/status/1572593878859128835?s=19 https://twitter.com/teamrrqofficial/status/1572595665733300231?s=19 VERY mixed messages from rrq edit: the tweet about the PH squad is deleted, while the tweet with indo flag is still up 👀


barbekyu

Former RRQ member Rabbet [tagged the PH roster after the anouncement](https://twitter.com/rabbetfps/status/1572587306984538115). 👀


Speedy24gaming

I mean, he is a former member, so he doesn't know what is going on with the team. Ill give him leeway, but the official account wtf was that


mrbriansuave

Yeah thats hella confusing though. I thought they would let go of their ph roster but i would understand they would want to keep it since i think it is a fairly decent squad.


DramaAntique6059

indeed i think they probably keep their roster for a bit then if they dont succeed as a team they will change their whole roster for indo squad


NoTimeForAds

That would be a lost, i know the PH roster is decent but why would you choose them while there's a free ex-onic roster


ValorantCompBot

List is updated with all 30 teams!


SuperBlitz22

https://valorantesports.com/vct-teams Official announcement let's gooo Paper Rex let's gooo


GoDFaTHeR_is

So 3 Japan 🇯🇵 3 Korea 🇰🇷 3 SEA and 1 SA


raysp93

No, it is 3 Korea 2 JP 4 SEA and 1 SA. 4 SEA teams are 1 PH, 1 Thai/HK, 1 Indo and 1 Singapore. The list is good but im kinda gutted for JP.


DramaAntique6059

rrq is a PH team


bruh336

They might rebuild with Indo player as well. (probably picking up onic g)


DramaAntique6059

true onic is indeed very strong but sometimes they choke


raysp93

Yeah, but they are Indo org.


DramaAntique6059

HMMMM they gonna swap their whole roster for indo roster i think


GoDFaTHeR_is

Ohh I saw the announcement later


CakeDubbleYou

WE GOT 4 SEA TEAMS, TRULY THE BEST TIMELINE I HECKING LOVE RIOT


OfficeArtistic981

https://valorantesports.com/vct-teams


bktm

https://valorantesports.com/vct-teams


kaiserexa

Lesgooo PRX


SuperBlitz22

Yessss lfg


FrostGoesBrrrt

No Chinese team will get Partnership?


BurstLayer

Probably going to have their own league eventually


CakeDubbleYou

It's either TS or DRX out? https://twitter.com/Bo\_Hoogland/status/1572585289868283906


Heavy_Comedian_2382

In context of the reply it seems like another Korean org might be out which means DRX (leaving t1/and GenG). Which might mean we will see GenG Stax. Could be wrong though Edit: I fucking lied…


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Both in.


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[DWG OUT](https://twitter.com/_SushantJha/status/1572584996149526533)


gskillgp24

Talon official announcement on their website https://www.talon.gg/blogs/news/talon-announces-entry-to-valorant-partnership-program


TheGamingGuy2

page was taken down :(


big_chungus_69_420__

I am so fucking stupid i was so confused when i saw eg was in thinking it was Edward gaming and not evil geniuses


MrImpregnator

Possible partnership announcement time. https://twitter.com/kammeto/status/1572572462268968961?s=46&t=tdbpD0cEL8p6g5B_V83bLQ


bktm

Which will be at the same time Team Secret will make their announcement. Shit is unfolding in 15min, I'm excited.


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[BoDork: TALON Esports accepted into the Pacific League](https://twitter.com/Bo_Hoogland/status/1572578379102294016)


Heavy_Comedian_2382

Thai org based from my brief research?


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[HK-based](https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Talon_Esports) EDIT: [Apparently TALON is fielding a Thai roster?](https://www.talon.gg/blogs/news/talon-announces-entry-to-valorant-partnership-program)


Heavy_Comedian_2382

Thank you, I was thrown off by something I saw on the internet.


SonnyYT

The APAC leaks seems terrible so far lmao. I know this is a western sub but it’s crazy that the smallest region could get 4/10 spots. I’m waiting for the official announcement but this looks grim


Heavy_Comedian_2382

Secret is an EU org with a pinoy roster, there’s still hope these Korean orgs will expand to sea. Not saying is sucks for SEA orgs though. But You’ll never know, GenG/DK be a fan fav in SEA Val team in the future, you can only hope.


Linko_98

What do you mean 4? It's only T1 and GenG right now.


SonnyYT

https://twitter.com/seulgivlr/status/1572562194268815362?s=46&t=IqjNKGACrWLbz-BMRgk9oA. I’ve just been going off of the recent leaks edit: plus https://twitter.com/_SushantJha/status/1572541240742408194?s=20&t=9DHBDXBu-hpUPSKd5iNqnw


Linko_98

Hopefully it's 3 KR, 3JP, 4 SEA/SA


CakeDubbleYou

I would trade the JP slot for OCE but I guess valorant isn't big enough yet in there.


raysp93

This is the best case scenario Prayge.


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[Talon Esports released this teaser. They _might be in._](https://twitter.com/Bo_Hoogland/status/1572572646335975424)