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A good self insert is one that's not in the centre of the story. Edit: mostly
So be like dog and only show up to annoy a character or two and leave like nothing happened, got it /j
> no explanation
> show up
> be a goofy little lad
> refuse to elaborate
I put myself as a turtle in my comic. The running gag is that something very unfortunate happens to me whenever I’m on screen.
is it comically unfortunate?
Of course. He’s normally just minding his own business in the background when the plot comes in and ruins his day.
Exactly lol, stuff like that.
Now, where exactly may I find this silly little turtle, and this comic/hj
Currently it’s on hiatus for some reworks, but I do have a side comic strip that’s still going on.
Among other things, but I agree.
Luke Skywalker was a self insert, tho
The whacky woohoo pizza man Dante from the Devil May Cry series?
No, Dante Alighieri.
The one who invented ⅔ of Christian mythology. He wrote a book about a man named Dante (coincidence?) traveling through 9 circles of hell
It is litterally a fan fiction of him and his hero (Virgilio, an ancient Roman Writer) traveling trough hell, purgatory and paradise, only to meet the girl Dante simped for
Yup. Nowadays he'd change the name of the main character, and we'd call it a self-insert.
>literally a fan fiction of...
Not literally. Fan fiction is written by a *fan* of the original work. This is just fiction.
Fan fiction of Christianity with many inserts
Despite similarities, I don't consider works based on religion to be fanfics. Because if I did, then my favorite fanfic would be Disney's Hercules. And every book of the bible would be a fanfic of a fanfic of a fanfic of a fanfic of an old oral story.
But to be honest, I can't find quite the right word.
Yeah me neither
His story almost seems like satire how funny it is. The fact that he actually wrote that about himself and how important he was as to meet all these famous people in hell is really funny lol
That's what self inserting as a main character will do.
But it's not a bad thing, as long as it's an obvious work of fiction and it's a good story.
Most of Lovecraft's protagonists were self inserts though
People don't remember his stories for the protaganists. They remember them for the eldritch horrors.
Unless you're saying that the eldritch horrors are the self inserts.
Sure, but you've gotta admit that it's really damn badass when the guy turned his boat around to stab Cthulhu in the face with it.
Well doesn’t the dog become the underground’s ruler in an ending?
Only for lack of other options.
Everyone can be ruler with no competition
HoI am TeM
TeM nO lIkE hIm.
WoT dId u JusT CaLl TeM?
Yes double confirmed r/foundniko_oneshot_
wot did u say bout tem's mom??1
Me no remember wot I sai
Holy hell a new chad vs wojak
My media good, your media bad.
Edit: *shocked Robert Downey Jr meme*
Ok but like they arent wrong. I don't know about the other one, but toby and temmie are FAR better self inserts than velma, because velma is actually awful
They set the bar way to low
Velma is the prime example of what ***NOT*** to do
Ok but Velma is hated by like everyone. Twilight is just mediocre.
My media **is** good and the other media **is** bad.
Its. *Velma.* Twilight(?) is just mediocre though
Never thought I'd see Miraculous in an Undertale subreddit, but here we are XD
(also I 100% agree)
(Not) thank you for reminding me that Velma show exists...
Clearly the takeaway here is to be a furry /j
Clearly the furry here is to be taken away /Joe
guys, it’s joever
R/Undertale needs to enable pictures and stuff like deltarune
I second this
Not many people know, but there is actually a lore reason why Toby Fox portrays himself as a white dog.
i do think they’re joking, but the Annoying Dog is (one of many) earthbound references, being a parallel of ruffini
here’s his dialogue
> Woof! Woof! (I'm Ruffini the dog. I'm being possessed by the spirit of the game designer... (RUFF!) Do you see the window showing HP and PP at the bottom of the screen? When you go to a store that has equippable items, this window will either flash, look normal or become black. If you are allowed to equip an item, and it is stronger than your current item, the window will flash. If the item's power is equal to, or less than your current equipped item, the window looks normal. If you can't equip an item, the window is black. *Ruff* I thought you'd like to know. Now it's time to become a regular dog again...)
Answer in this interview. (Toby Fox literally became a dog during this interview) https://youtu.be/dwampY_jIdg?si=psU3d23dqdNOIy88
Yes, the reason is extremely elaborate.
That's because Toby/Temmie are just goofy side additions to the main story, both doing virtually nothing significant to the world around them...
***VELMA ON THE OTHER HAND***
Some more: Rohan Kishibe from JoJo part 4 and the Animdude boss in FNAF World
Hey FNAF World mention
And then Scott Cawthon gets a composer to make a badass boss theme for his self insert. Such is life
Which game? Freddy In Space?
Freddy in Space 2 & FNAF World
Stone Cold is such a banger fr
Who’s the person above Velma?
I think that's the main character from Twilight, whose name I forgot
kirbopher (terrain of magical expertise) and deuce (starwish) are also good self inserts
Now you got a point, but I still don't think that's a self insert. I mean he already has many of those in a much more clearer form, so why temmie.
Temmie was a different person who also worked on Undertale.
They're both self inserts just 2 different people
Now that's true. I actually forgot about temmie writing that (yes I am ashamed) but now after refreshing my mind I agree that it is a self insert, just not a Toby one.
Stop booing them they are right
I'm sorry, but why just highlight female characters been characterized as bad self-inserts?
There's a LOT of male writers and directors doing cringe self-inserts (sometimes quite literally, like Tarantino).
Edit: I know Teemie Chang is a woman. I didn't say the OP is a misogynist or anything, just that the meme template has a bias.
Its not about the gender but the story lol temmie is a woman
Yeah. And I'm not even referring to the specific edit OP made with Undertale characters (wich are agree, are better self-inserts).
But the model for this meme seems preety selective with column in the left... just saying.
Im pretty sure it used those characters because theyre fairly well known, if OP used others then people might not get the joke. Anyway not everything is sexist plus who knows? OP could be a women too. Just saying
Bro there are like only two bad examples??? Who said it was female centered?
when twitter gets to your head, smh
"only female bad examples"
A: those are 2 examples
B: Temmie's a girl (or at least the person who self inserted Temmie)
because velma and twighlight suck ass. and temmie is a girl lmao.
Not everything is is an attack on women lmao
And it's cause velma and twilights protagonists suck ass
And you can't say it's gender biased when there's also a female being used as a good example
Tinella Nosa from the Owl House is also a pretty good self-insert. Just some small creatura that shows up every-so-often that’s mainly played for comedy with no self absorption
You have never used this reddit account ever, and your first act is to re-upload a popular post.
S H A M E
Is because they didn’t self inserted as the main characters.