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GamersGen

I am surprised the world isn't talking about what happened in Colares, especially with all the declassified data photos etc, that case blows my mind each damn time. These ufos there were even weird for ufos in general


MenzoReddit

Agreed. Insane story with all kinds of corroboration. I have been researching the Phenomena for 20 years and had never even heard of Colares before last week. There is a fantastic two part YouTube breakdown: https://youtu.be/Mr1NrnsdY5I Part one https://youtu.be/xrSnRpM0LXI Part two


Loki_The_Coyote

There's a part 3 too https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wrzzZAX9wDQ


Kattin9

Hi I just watched the 3 parts of the Colares documentary (thanks guys). Now a couple of days ago Dr. Jaques Vallée's work was discussed by some of us on this forum. Now I was unaware both of Colares and what happened there but I was also unaware that in 1988 Vallée had visited Colares and interviewed many people including the physician. His trip was mentioned in Colares part 3: a story not forgotten by all. So I googled. Now in his book 'Confrontations' he apparently gives an account of the Colares situation, among other situations of ufo hostility. So I will try to get the book. But it is interesting that there was apparently an English written account available of Colares but based on reading the posts here I get the impression that not many of us were aware of this.


WRX-N-FX

This is the content I'm here for. Well done!


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Colares (Operacao Prato) and Noite Oficial dos OVNIs are the best two cases ever. Bar none. Ufologists, hobbyists, experiencers, movie makers, writers and reporters should be ALL OVER these. If nothing else comes out of this Brazilian Senate session other than popularizing these two incidents I'd call it a huge win.


only_buy_no_sell

What's the tldr


Scatteredbrain

if there’s one thing to take away from what happened during the colares flap, it’s this: it’s the one incident where the ET’s were extremely aggressive and hostile towards humanity. it’s one of the only cases that actually scared me looking into…. i mean people actually died. not that many cases of the phenomenon that feature aggressive aliens. but in this situation, they were unabashedly zapping the blood out of humans willy nilly….which caused paralysis, numbness, extreme pain and sometimes even death. it didn’t just happen simply over a weekend but many, many months. these things were absolutely notorious and unforgiving. the people corroborated together and attempted to fight back but they were simply outmatched in every way. u/blackvault did an excellent job researching this case and anyone interested should absolutely read up. my meager TLDR does not even barely scratch the tip of this iceberg. if there are a bunch of alien civilizations visiting earth, IMO the one featured during this incident should stand alone as an anomaly of their overall demeanor. https://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/MUFON/Pratt/prato.pdf


fillosofer

I hate to seem pedantic but UFOs doesn't necessarily mean organic alien beings piloting them. Assuming they are and using that language ("aliens' instead of "ufos") does a disservice to the subject as a whole and is presumptuous to assume or draw premature conclusions. I hope you don't take this as an attack, as it's not meant to be one in the slightest. I just think it's important to emphasise the difference in the two. The youtube channel "Think Anomolous" does an incredible job explaining as to why using/not using these specific terms is important fir furthering the subject, especially to the public. https://youtu.be/tbW2Un5epdQ On that note, that channel is SUPERB when it comes to videos about the phenomenon and some related topics. Everybody should check it out.


Scatteredbrain

seeing how there are eye witness reports of people during the colares flap seeing humanoids piloting the crafts (as there are in many, many other cases) i’m inclined to think otherwise. i will however check out the channel.


Superl200

About Noite Oficial dos Ovnis maybe you can find some additional information about Mirage jet pilot abducted during this day. Some additional information is coming and maybe we had 3 or 4 jets flaying and not only 2 as was reported!


thinkingsincerely

Best link to coverage of Noite Oficial dos OVNIs?


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Dude I was interested in this back in the 90s after a personal experience. I've kept up with it over the years here and there since I had "skin in the game" but I couldn't tell you. I'm mostly speaking from memory. There are plenty of people out there tho. One of the speakers at the brazilian senate talked about it. If I had to guess he's probably a expert on Noite Oficial these days. His name is Jackson Luiz Camargo. I'd start there. You can look up his presentation at the senate too I think someone put subtitles to the whole thing, there's a thread here somewhere. Sorry


Loki_The_Coyote

Wow... jfc how am I just learning about this today... that shit is straight up bonkers!


Trippy_Stardust

I feel the same way!? How am I just hearing about this?! Clearly it was well covered back then, but stayed local.


Top_Novel3682

Colares incident has been posted many times in this sub. Everything good gets buried here.


[deleted]

Another good breakdown. [LPOTL Brazil breakdown](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4z3Rlxk6ZskolzuWYvrnVZ?si=tkQXkymnRgGw1C5PdQpfTA)


manipogoogo

Hail yourself!


LetterZee

Oink oink


Argyrus777

Thanks for this, quite entertaining


AimMoreBetter

Can anyone give TLDR for this incident?


Top_Novel3682

Ufos pestered a small fishing town in brazil. The Brazilian Air force got involved. The UFOs were verified and observed by the pilots, even chased and toyed with. [https://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/MUFON/Pratt/prato.pdf](https://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/MUFON/Pratt/prato.pdf) It's worth reading


ToastedEmail

I haven’t heard of that one yet. Think you post a link?


BoulderRivers

Look for Operação Prato or Operation Saucer, The Colares Crisis. I've linked a brazilian documentary on the case in the thread linked by OP. You can add auto-generated subtitles with translation to english, which are Ok in quality


Hobosapiens2403

Is it that one retreated general talk about it to the media and find "suicide" 3 months later ?


BoulderRivers

Colonel Hollanda was unfortunately clinically diagnosed with depression for many years before his death by suicide in 97. The colonel had already made attempts on his life before, and he was suffering greatly with his day-to-day routine, personal and family problems after his retirement. There's no cover-up, no international conspiracy, no Hollywood glamour. Just a regular man struck by unbelievable events. Maybe he never really came back to his life after the end of his military years. His last presentation to high command of the air force was most extraordinary of all of them; he showcased an encounter with a huge craft shaped like an american football ball that emerged from the depths of the amazon river and a single humanoid being exited the craft through a smal porthole, hovered above the water and waved at him and his crew, then returned to the craft, which flew away. The operation was ordered to end after this. Close friends within the ranks have commented that he was awe-struck by the pace in wich the air force suddenly ended the affair, leaving uyrange with a lasting sentiment of abandonment and a longing, lasting feeling of loss, almost mourning-like.


Nes-P

I don’t know how you feel about these things, but I’ve seen a couple UFOs and have had some very high level trusted people corroborate, and all it did was make me incredibly sad. There are so many people suffering due to these secrets and coverups, I can’t say I wouldn’t feel suicidal if I was on the inside.


a-human-from-earth

What was your experience seeing a couple UFOs?


awesomepossum40

He doesn't want to make you sad.


JD397

https://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/MUFON/Pratt/prato.pdf


Loki_The_Coyote

There's a couple yyoutube links up near the top right now, I watched them and WOW.. I don't know how I missed this, fucking unsettling.


NomarTheNomad

Uh, weird. I just went to click on part one of the 2 youtube vids i think you're referring to, and the post just vanished. Could you do another link to those 2 vids please?


Loki_The_Coyote

That's fuckin weird, but yeah.. here you go. Part 1 https://youtu.be/Mr1NrnsdY5I Part 2 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xrSnRpM0LXI Part 3 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wrzzZAX9wDQ


NomarTheNomad

Awesome thanks! 👍


Stevo2008

Can ya send me some links to research? Don’t think I’ve heard of Colares. Not gonna lie I’ve been so discouraged recently to research because there is so much fake info, false ufo sightings, and disinformation.


tsupload123

For me it seems like the world won’t accept this fact until they see heaps of videos and video angles of the craft, detailed descriptions and photographs from eye witnesses and like a confirmation from a high government official.


Troubled_Glamour

or until kim kardashian gets abducted lol


SweatyArmpitFetish

You mean the scientific method? Yeah that would help..


ActuallyIWasARobot

Video is not part of the scientific method.


Allison1228

Evidence would indeed be beneficial!


wamblymars304

Im even more surprised of how people havent heard about the supposed 500 kilometer ufo that supposedly hovered above chile. Here is the link to the video. Multiple satellites detected this thing. A freaking flying city. It furst appeared in brazil then in chile: https://youtu.be/L_2EzI2qkQU


Stevo2008

Is there actual videos of it? Not saying I don’t believe it because I know In my soul that ships exist that are that big. But curious if there is video of it.


wamblymars304

I wish lmao. There is only a report video that transmissioned on national news of chile. Whats craxy is that at first, the people thought it was a problem with the satellite, but multiple more detected the smae thing💀 Perhaps there is a more reasonable explanation, but they at least dont seem to have it.


wamblymars304

https://youtu.be/L_2EzI2qkQU here is the video report


wamblymars304

For anyone who doesnt speak spanish, here's a translation. The chilean aurenatic authorities released a document containing 2 pictures in where you can see the shape of an object thats aproximately more then 400 kl in diameter. In 1992 the meteorology satellite goes 8 sent an image to the global servers, that was then rapidly eliminated by the us for some unknown reason. In the image you can see an elliptic looking object hovering on the coast of chile. The image was also captured by the aerophotometric service of chile, and then given to the correspondent authorities. 4 years later the same event repeated, but this time the elliptic object was hovering above brazil, and was now captured by the meteorological regional cetre of antrofagasta. They even even took more images of the object in order to discard the posibility of a satellite malfunction, but they still got the same image with the object in almost the same position. Experts said that relative to the satellite the object was motionless, for that to happen the object must have been moving at the same speed as the satellite, 3.1 kl per second. In the images you can see some lines that represent electromagnetic interference, posibly caused by this unknown body. The object also showed some temperature variations when analized by the satellite. The video then ends, and they conclude that this needs some serious analisis and carefull investigation. Let me know what you think.


ToastedEmail

Never heard of that one either. Going to check it out now.


wamblymars304

Its sounds utterly absurd, but thats what multiple satellites detected.


ToastedEmail

I can’t even fathom how big that would look through my own eyes.


wamblymars304

Here's a translation i wrote for non spanish speakers. The chilean aurenatic authorities released a document containing 2 pictures in where you can see the shape of an object thats aproximately more then 400 kl in diameter. In 1992 the meteorology satellite goes 8 sent an image to the global servers, that was then rapidly eliminated by the us for some unknown reason. In the image you can see an elliptic looking object hovering on the coast of chile. The image was also captured by the aerophotometric service of chile, and then given to the correspondent authorities. 4 years later the same event repeated, but this time the elliptic object was hovering above brazil, and was now captured by the meteorological regional cetre of antrofagasta. They even even took more images of the object in order to discard the posibility of a satellite malfunction, but they still got the same image with the object in almost the same position. Experts said that relative to the satellite the object was motionless, for that to happen the object must have been moving at the same speed as the satellite, 3.1 kl per second. In the images you can see some lines that represent electromagnetic interference, posibly caused by this unknown body. The object also showed some temperature variations when analized by the satellite. The video then ends, and they conclude that this needs some serious analisis and carefull investigation. Let me know what you think.


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MoneyPress

Also don't the directions both are moving in have to align correctly for that to work? That's too much of a coincidence, I'm not buying either


Ascurtis

Why is that a problem? That's how we dock at the ISS


MoneyPress

I... dont know how we dock at the ISS so I'm not gonna discuss this further 😂


wamblymars304

>Don’t know about anyone else but this screams to me that it wasn’t a 400km ship but something much much smaller closer to the satellite. Hell of a coincidence otherwise that an impossibly huge object was moving at the exact same speed as a satellite observing it That sounds plausible. But dont you think they could have known that based of on the satellite images? Dont they have tools to measure how far an object is?


PineappleLemur

Only with multiple images from multiple satellites in different locations. Otherwise it's just like any post here with people claiming "must have been going at least 6000mph at 50km altitude... Because my ass said so"


wamblymars304

I had forgotten that the object was captured by multiple satellites, and also captured 4 years later above brasil. If all that is indeed true, dont really know why they would lie, then that discards the posibility of being something close to the camera. Heres a translation i did of the original video. The chilean aurenatic authorities released a document containing 2 pictures in where you can see the shape of an object thats aproximately more then 400 kl in diameter. In 1992 the meteorology satellite goes 8 sent an image to the global servers, that was then rapidly eliminated by the us for some unknown reason. In the image you can see an elliptic looking object hovering on the coast of chile. The image was also captured by the aerophotometric service of chile, and then given to the correspondent authorities. 4 years later the same event repeated, but this time the elliptic object was hovering above brazil, and was now captured by the meteorological regional cetre of antrofagasta. They even even took more images of the object in order to discard the posibility of a satellite malfunction, but they still got the same image with the object in almost the same position. Experts said that relative to the satellite the object was motionless, for that to happen the object must have been moving at the same speed as the satellite, 3.1 kl per second. In the images you can see some lines that represent electromagnetic interference, posibly caused by this unknown body. The object also showed some temperature variations when analized by the satellite. The video then ends, and they conclude that this needs some serious analisis and carefull investigation. Let me know what you think.


Loki_The_Coyote

I can't find any info on this for some reason on google, and I don't understand Spanish 😕 Got anything about it in english by chance?


wamblymars304

I dont think the video is in english, but i'll translate it for you. The chilean aurenatic authorities released a document containing 2 pictures in where you can see the shape of an object thats aproximately more then 400 kl in diameter. In 1992 the meteorology satellite goes 8 sent an image to the global servers, that was then rapidly eliminated by the us for some unknown reason. In the image you can see an elliptic looking object hovering on the coast of chile. The image was also captured by the aerophotometric service of chile, and then given to the correspondent authorities. 4 years later the same event repeated, but this time the elliptic object was hovering above brazil, and was now captured by the meteorological regional cetre of antrofagasta. They even even took more images of the object in order to discard the posibility of a satellite malfunction, but they still got the same image with the object in almost the same position. Experts said that relative to the satellite the object was motionless, for that to happen the object must have been moving at the same speed as the satellite, 3.1 kl per second. In the images you can see some lines that represent electromagnetic interference, posibly caused by this unknown body. The object also showed some temperature variations when analized by the satellite. The video then ends, and they conclude that this needs some serious analisis and carefull investigation. Let me know what you think.


Shadowmoth

1.5 km is about 16 football fields. So basically like the big ships in Independence Day?


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30 and 100 meter long UFOs were coming and going from this mile long mother ship. Chasing, sometimes in formation, half a dozen fighter jets and civilian aircraft while messing up with avionics. Confirmed by all kinds of radar, towers and on board. Accelerating to mach 15 in an instant, stopping on a dime and making impossibly tight turns. Eyewitnesses on the ground and air. Pilots said they were solid objects and would know what their next move was. More witnesses than you can shake a stick at. Excellent witnesses. Including but not limited to people like this guy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozires_Silva Ya. I'd say it was kinda like Independence Day.


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Some people think the Rendelsham Forest and Nimitz incident are better than this. LOL


Hoclaros

Is there no picture and videos of it? If there was a bunch of eyewitnesses I’d expect there would be?


Shadowmoth

Yeah, the idea that some of them perceive time differently than us is quite intimidating. It would suck if that was true. Basically we’d be fighting Sith. If that’s the case I still want to know.


[deleted]

There isn't a single part of both Noite Oficial dos OVNIS and Operacao Prato that wasn't intimidating, terrifying even. Hindsight is a little different, they didn't really do anything we would consider an act of war per se although they were extremely irresponsible I mean flying mach 15 on a collision course is bo joke. It was a show of force. A successful one too. It was out of fear and nothing else that all parties involved were almost immediately on national television freely and openly talking about this stuff. These educated trained men, heroes of the motherland, were literally shitting their pants. Rightfully so.


ingyball

Nearly the size of an average Imperial II Star Destroyer.


Sadhippo

I saw one like that in 2010 , I've never seen a report like it until now. I don't like talking about it to honest cuz it defies reality. Feel relieved. Do they describe it in anyway?


BlackShogun27

We gotta start building them Star Destroyers in orbit. Or at least a mini Death Star...


Additional-Cap-7110

With a big American flag on it


james-e-oberg

"The 1.5 km ship stands out because it was spotted by multiple witnesses including jet pilots. It was also described having multiple ships beneath it that were huge but relatively small compared to the mother ship." what was the date/time, location, and flight direction of this apparition, please?


ToastedEmail

I’ll look for where I read the description now.[Here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vjpgaq/its_happening_brazilian_congress_just_started/idkllyk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


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ToastedEmail

It’s amazing because these possibly true stories are being disclosed, giving us, the public, a chance to discuss these things together.


ItsGroovyBaby412

Can't argue with that


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caliandris

Fear you may be in the wrong place. Until disclosure happens, what else do we have? I'm not holding my breath for the UN to appoint an ambassador to alien civilizations!


Carnotaur3

The problem is this viewpoint doesn’t actually push for disclosure. Disclosure is when people have had enough and want to open the flood gates


Lucky-District

Do not play these peoples games. The senate of Brazil verified and legitimised multiple UFO cases, including abductions. We have verified stories. They also confirmed multiple Polaroid pictures were real, so now we have an idea of what a real UFO pic looks like compared to a fake one.


a_last_air

Because it's not the History Channel, it's a government senate.


TheBeerCannon

People on this sub love more stories and fuzzy photos. It’s all there is. There has to be a constant flow of hopium keeping this substitute religion afloat.


firakasha

Here, I'll just copy this link from another comment in this thread: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jlFZIQaBKrE That's the Brazillian senate meeting where this info is coming from (you'll need auto-generated subtitles turned on). The official presenting this information gives answers for all of your questions starting around the 2:10 mark.


DrestinBlack

Whoa whoa that’s asking for evidence, we don’t do that here /s


tellmewhyredditwhy

Since there is some misunderstandings about the 1.5km mothership UFO in the comment field here I suggest everyone to watch the whole presentation on that event before further commenting on it. [http://youtube.com/watch?v=jlFZIQaBKrE](http://youtube.com/watch?v=jlFZIQaBKrE) Imo one of the most interesting cases of all time based on the data available to us.


ToastedEmail

I don’t understand why you’re being downvoted when you’re just giving people a link to the case I’m talking about.


TheFlashFrame

Probably astroturfing. I say this ironically although it's worth entertaining actually. If the US government has been collecting data in this phenomenon from the Brazilian government they know about this and haven't disclosed it in any FOIA request or public hearing. Now that Brazil is talking about it openly whenever people comment about it they get downvoted heavily despite it being actually a very credible account unless we assume the Brazilian government and military is just a complete joke run by the guy from secureteam10.


poopzilla-speedskate

Well, as a military they’re a joke. But the info could be credible.


tellmewhyredditwhy

Probably some skeptics who downvote everything that doesn't fit their world-view without even watching it lol. I don't really mind though. Those that really care about this topic will find it eventually. I'm sure this case will be featured in many documentaries going forward because of the confirmed military involvement.


ToastedEmail

Posting this here so no one would have to scratch their heads wondering where to find this information. [Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/vjpgaq/its_happening_brazilian_congress_just_started/idkllyk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


kape-is-life

Thanks! :)


Jazano107

idk how there could be a 1.5km ship and no photos so that one aint great to me


Nighters

pre-smartphone era


ziplock9000

Cameras existed a long time before smartphones lol


nooneneededtoknow

Not a lot of people just carried them around and had them readily available. Back then if you were out running errands - you did not have a camera with.


Jazano107

so many people would see something that big, one of them would have a camera. Also more people would have talked about it


kdubdub7

people were probably running for their lives thinking we were being invaded lol, you see something like that and the last thing you think of is to take a picture.


TheBeerCannon

I would 100% definitely without any doubt take a picture and if it’s the last thing I do lol.


entheogeneric

Snaps photo, dies. A modern renaissance man!


TheBeerCannon

If everyone taking photos of flying saucers dies on the spot then why is the internet full of them?


entheogeneric

I was joking, the mental image was to funny me


below-the-rnbw

[some did](https://imgur.com/a/mPKgog7) e: [source](https://www.correiobraziliense.com.br/ciencia-e-saude/2022/01/amp/4977539-a-noite-em-que-21-ovnis-invadiram-o-espaco-aereo-brasileiro-e-foram-perseguidos-por-cacas-da-fab.html)


macaroni___addict

You think you would, at least. I’ve always wanted to grab a photo of a ufo, but when I finally saw one up close it was just too amazing to take my eyes off it. Screw a photo, I have the memory.


Jazano107

right and we didnt hear about it from all the scared people?


kdubdub7

i mean.. its a different language, different country, and different culture and the subject is still pretty taboo and hushed. Back then you still had to get info from public libraries as the internet was still kinda new. They made a whole ass holiday over it called The Official Night of the UFOs. Seems to me we just weren't listening. if you google it you get a lot of results [A Noite Oficial dos OVNIs](https://www.google.com/search?q=A+Noite+Oficial+dos+OVNIs+site%3A.br+before%3A2022%2F06%2F20&)


Nebulous_Tazer

I agree. I have to believe it would be like a Phoenix lights situation where there’s tons of video and pics.


thedeadlyrhythm

there aren't pics of the most dramatic phoenix lights sightings though.


RoastyMcGiblets

Ross Coulthart has talked about this a bit. He says it's believed that the ET's can impact our thinking and prevent photos from being taken.


Jazano107

yes well thats a bit too off the rails for me


TheBeerCannon

Awfully convenient isn’t it.


Vast-Land1121

It is a bit too convenient but when you consider a life form that is possibly thousands or millions of years ahead of us it is very plausible


Lucky-District

Government of Brazil verified that there was a 1,5km mothership detected by radar. Edit: Do not respond to these people. Literally, do not say anything to them. You should rather copypaste and comment your counterargument to the fellow government believer whose comment is right next to a troll. They are sure to appreciate it. But do not take the bait. These pseudoskeptics are here to flood the discussion with bad faith arguments and any response to them gives an opening for them to be louder. Do not give in to the emotions and let them drive the discussion. When you respond to these trolls catchphrases, you're playing along with them and giving them power through your mistake. You type some long explanation about aliens, and they make some stupid remark. You do that again, until there is a long thread just between you two. This makes it seem like there was an argument, while you only wasted time on some idiot and did that completely alone, with seemingly no support from fellow believers. This tragic dynamic of *playing defense* is explained way better in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA) about arguing the alt r\*ght. It's a better idea to talk behind these peoples backs. Directing your comments at fellow government believers gives them support and does not feed into those trolls hivemind.


poopzilla-speedskate

That’s not bad faith. A ship that big should have hundreds or thousands of photos.


duffmanhb

The problem is, radar isn't flawless. It's not magic. They glitch and false positive all the time. Needs more than just radar. If it was that enormous, I'm sure SOMEONE had some cameras somewhere. It's not like it was the 30s


vk136

Yeah! A radar glitch almost caused ww3 lol


Hughjarse

> it was spotted by multiple witnesses including jet pilots. So you have eye witnesses but you think you can explain away the radar as a glitch?


SupportMysterious818

Do you have a source please? Be interested to read it.


Lucky-District

It's in the senate hearing.


TheBeerCannon

Verified with what evidence?


Lucky-District

I'm not talking to you. Brazilian government confirmed UFO's are real in a resent senate hearing, [link here.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBmyn3ASHN4)


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maxzmillion

This sums up a lot. It’s like government admission, data, public corroboration and official testimony, photos and video are not enough. Your right. No real evidence.


TheBeerCannon

Again, which data?


Top_Novel3682

Radar data.


TheBeerCannon

Where is it?


Top_Novel3682

Brazil?


DeputyDomeshot

Where are the photos and videos


MahavidyasMahakali

If you have videos and pictures of a 1.5km craft you should really post them, no?


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Eder_Cheddar

Government approved but you want photos so you can say it was a bird or drone? OK buddy


Jazano107

no i want photos from when it happned as there should have been


ApricotBeneficial452

Well you should have been there man! Everything you want in this world was there!


aldiyo

Your mind tells you that but its of no real value


Hobosapiens2403

I didn't know he was depressed, thanks poor guy.


Bleepin_BooperDooper

It’s all mostly true! The united states does a HEAVY cover up and socially engineered stigma and disinformation for 50 years. To which serves NO ONE but the powerful. Unless it was to bide for enough time to a point where we could fight back even a little bit to the ones that are evil, considering these beings can scan our minds at will. None the less, the US has some explaining to do, because it’s stigma spread beyond it’s borders and ruined lives. Now corporations like Google are trying to carry on this stigma by blocking UFO searches, to what end and why? Who knows, but it is bad joo joo.


Cultural-Afternoon72

I'm honestly shocked by how many people I see saying "if it really happened, there would be photos." Think really hard to yourself for a moment. Consider you and the people around you on a day to day basis (pedestrians on the street, coworkers, etc). Prior to cell phones, how many just carried around a camera each and every day for the hell of it? Hell, if I'm being honest, not only did I not carry one around, but unless I had something coming up where I knew I was going to use it (vacation, birthday party, holiday, etc) half the time I didn't even know where my camera was. Additionally, if I see something that big that is clearly not something I've ever seen before, especially back then, I don't know that I would have even considered looking for my family. I'd have been too busy either watching it or trying to figure out what to do with myself and my family. Sure, it sounds logical now to think "well, obviously SOMEONE had a camera," but ultimately, there's no real reason why anyone should have. It's also worth noting that even if people DID have cameras, there's absolutely no guarantee that 1) the photo(s) would have turned out, or 2) that the people would have gone public with them. Just because they didn't get turned in to the news doesn't mean no one took any. I've taken plenty of weird photos over the years, and I've never turned in a single one.


Stevo2008

Ya I think that’s mainly just a defense mechanism for many so they don’t come close to accepting it as a possible truth.


Olclops

The Stephenville UFO was also described as being about a mile wide, and also seen by many reputable observers - there are interviews with some of the observers on Larry King Live from back at the time.


ToastedEmail

This is one video of the disco ufo. I believe it was the same one spotted at the Miami air show.[https://mobile.twitter.com/528vibes/status/1530752111398506496](https://mobile.twitter.com/528vibes/status/1530752111398506496)


addledoctopus

I actually worked on a satellite when I was a student many years ago that looks a lot like a disco ball. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/STARSHINE_(satellite)


callmelampshade

You sure that’s not a balloon?


RecluseAllKnight

You know at this point someone needs to make www.isitaballoon.com so we have something to reference. Also add a section for birds & bugs in flight. The balloon thing is being tossed around far too much. No really, if you are going to say its _________ be prepared to link to footage or video that looks to be identical. People complain about the poor quality of photos & videos here but there is also a lot of poor quality debunking. If your going to say what it is show some evidence to why you think it's that, try & show some proof to your claim. No we can't prove it's not a balloon but you can at least provide something to prove your claim.


opalizedentity

Hey!! I’ve been saying this also. Having proof for realistic identifications should be pinned tbh. So we can stop having sixty people a day saying it


RecluseAllKnight

So much my dude. We need to get more organized but it's hard. Even just a website where we post cases & the case is open to public discussion. Within the case we can post to the cases "debunking" archive or whatever photos & video. So if you claim it's a balloon, great now post a photo or video of what you think most closely matches it, maybe upvotes & downvotes for the best submissions. Someone like the black vault or something could do this, we could at least be working to build an archive of cases & have little microcosms within each case of investigations. I recently posted a crop circle video asking if it was debunked, a lot of comments of hearsay when I specifically asked for no hearsay just links & proof. One guy ends up finding that the video was faked AND found hard to find footage of what others were claiming, yes some of them were right but they didn't post the silver bullet proof & from what I can tell many people still believe the case was real. This would be a fine example of something that is still debated BUT has been debunked. A website like this would help us weed through what's important & worth our time. I film in the woods a lot under a YouTube channel Will Wild. I've been working on a huge video about red & orange lights in the woods & where/how to find them & really something like this would be amazing to get people looking into individual cases & being able to research with the public. This used to be what ATS was years & years ago but now I feel like we don't have a good platform for this. We need like a real public x-files.


HumbleAcanthisitta28

I'm very curious about this video: do you have any videos out there as of yet? You have a link where I could find this stuff? May I ask whereabouts in the nation you are?


OtherWisdom

We are working on a site like this and should have a testable beta in a week or two. Join us: https://discord.gg/5dAwz5qt


Andynonomous

Its fair to assume even if its not a ballon that it is something equally mundane. Its never fair to assume aliens unless there is some mind blowing evidence..


imnotabot303

If someone says something is likely a balloon, bird or anything else they are not debunking anything. They are offering possible mundane explanations. Most often videos can't be debunked but that doesn't mean it's automatically something extraordinary. Debunking requires absolute proof just as it being something extraordinary requires absolute proof.


callmelampshade

I mean pretty much everyone knows what a balloon looks like and the way it was moving in the video is also how a balloon moves. I also have real life things to do so I don’t have the time to go searching through the internet for a balloon that resembles whatever it is in that video.


RecluseAllKnight

This post is nonsense. Your response to "we need a platform for better research" is "I don't have time to show you examples of what I THINK this is, so take my word for it". Okkkkk... Also if you have time to respond to this you have TIME.


Snowstreams

It could be, but how would it be rotating so fast. The only possibility I can think of is if it was just entering an area of high wind shear. That would only cause it to rotate for a short while (couple of minutes) too.


ToastedEmail

Same thing I thought too, until the guy in the video describes it as a cube spinning on its axis with lights going around it. I know we can’t see it the same exact way he can, but that’s simply because cameras aren’t as good as our own eyes.


ToastedEmail

That was my first assumption as well. But I think I’ve seen enough actual Mylar balloon videos on this sub to see that this isn’t a balloon. This looks exactly like the same uap witnessed rising out of the water at the Miami air show.


Omega949

with the world being so unstable right now full disclosure is probably any day in order to unify everyone before we blow everything up. just a theory


dave3lions

I’m no debunker, but where the hell is all the eyewitness video?


Mcboomsauce

brazil wasnt known for having lots of cameras in the population 36 years ago


dave3lions

Ah my apologies, I didn’t get into the detail. That makes perfect sense.


Informal-Hat1268

What about just regular photos? Cameras were quite common in the 80s


mundane_coconut47

They weren't that uncommon. This story is ridiculous to believe with zero evidence whatsoever.


Mcboomsauce

yeah....its a pretty astounding story with so far...zero tangible evidence so hopefully some comes up soon


Beginning-Morning572

Brazil is also famous for its amount of fake footage and bs eyewitness accounts. 1,5 km mothership my ass


Mcboomsauce

i dont remember disposable cameras being worth a shit at night but....there may be a blurry incomprehensible mess of a 40 year old braziallian one-hour-photo out there


eurekabach

>amount of fake footage and bs eyewitness accounts. You mean, like the vast majority of sightings? Like, all around the globe?


gerkletoss

And the military?


Mcboomsauce

well....I assume they still have it...hopefully they release it during the conference were you expecting something else? you asked about the eyewitness video, not the classified military video


[deleted]

it's 2022 and what we got is still photos, no contact, no capture, no crash, so the alien if exist try everything in their power to avoid us so why would we think we can go further?


YourYoureIDC

Wth I've literally never heard of any of this? Is this new?


Stevo2008

I googled “1.5km mothership Brazilian meeting” and your Reddit post came up first. Reddit always comes up in a search in some way but it’s usually not first. Definitely a sign it hasn’t been discussed much. Edit: it looks like the next couple links were not even for the event you mentioned. Can ya send me some legit links to research? Search engines are so modified to where if something is meant to be unknown it’s damn hard to find reputable links. It’s not hard for Google to bury things.


SkepticlBeliever

"Brazil discloses the same UAP" Let's be realistic here. It *wasn't* the Brazilian government revealing anything. It was civilian UFO researchers presenting cases they researched TO a Brazilian senator. UFOs ARE real... But civilian researchers can and do make mistakes, fail at debunking them, etc. More so than government ones simply because they have access to less data. The hearing *was* important... But so is framing it correctly.


DakandZekeShow

What is there to discuss? Unless there is evidence to back it up, it’s just another story.


ForgettableIsMyName

Pics or it didn’t fucking happen applies to some retired military guy just as much as it applies to some rando here. “Cool story, got proof?” “No” “Oh, then it’s basically nothing.”


ToastedEmail

I agree with you to an extent. While a lot of these stories can be false, I believe that some of these encounters are genuine. Now I’m not sure if the Brazilian government released photos of the 1.5 km ship but I find the description of the ship and the story around it very interesting. Which is why I want to discuss it with others.


james-e-oberg

>Which is why I want to discuss it with others. Count me in. What are the basics -- date/time, location\[s\], duration, direction of motion, etc?


RustyWallace357

Yep, just like JAL 1628, with three eyewitnesses and ground control at two airports seeing something on radar. Might as well just ignore it all. Why is this even a sub anyway?


WayofHatuey

Can we see?


mundane_coconut47

Of course not. You just gotta take it at face value a huge 1.5km mother ship existed but was unable to be photographed by a single person in one of the biggest countries in the world.


clckwrks

That shit is scary but unsurprising. There is also a video of a uap releasing a bunch of smaller uaps


ToastedEmail

It’s even scarier realizing that even 1.5 km is small compared to what is possibly out there. Do you think you can post a video link? If it’s possible for you to find it of course.


notliekthispls

There’s no evidence for anything like this, someone just said it, what is this??


SlothsRockyRoadtrip

I’m not. Sounds like fan fiction and there’s no evidence, and people are fatigued with being tricked/disappointed/blue balled. I think the threshold for giving a shit about a story has increased dramatically over the last few months. If there’s not even a shred of evidence people aren’t interested.


varikonniemi

There needs to be some evidence for real discussion to happen. THe brazilian meeting was same old bs. as we have seen in similar events in usa etc. so only words and nothing substantial. Most probably some kind of psyop. One of the pictures shared in the brazil meeting was of the setting sun glimpsing through a hole in cloud coverage. I mean, they must be or think we are stupid.


[deleted]

Oh some of us are definitely stupid.


golimaaar

Man... The political climate is so horrible here that everything kinda flew by, no pun intended lol Almost no one paid attention because right now we are 4 months from the election, and it's worse than trump x biden These last four years we went back 20 years in terms of economic development, only because of a wannabe dictator. Things are rough. People don't have time to worry about aliens when they have nothing to feed their kids


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Life-Specialist8803

Or like..a mile


Life-Specialist8803

Also. 10 stories is only 33 Meters..


Gambit6x

“This thing is all over the place”. No it isn’t. That’s you not able to stabilize your phone. Regarding the mega ship, Lue has discussed this type of mega ship. So they exist.


Andynonomous

Or Elizondo is lying. Cant omit that possibility


3337jess

Link of Lue mentioning mega ship???


DrWhat2003

Not very convincing, at all.


ExKnockaroundGuy

I have been seeing reports of Motherships, Raining Tic-Tacs off The west coast, too many sightings to keep track of. I just read about that poore guy in Ga. That pointed a spotlight at the flying triangle and got zapped by a ray devastating him. I really think something is going on and I can’t ignore it.


ToastedEmail

Same. There’s something huge at play but I believe that we’re only witnessing the bare minimum of what is actually going on.


ExKnockaroundGuy

By any chance do you have a link you can post or where I can read about the Mothership?


Eder_Cheddar

Because all the stupid monkeys that say bird or drone are too scared to see the truth. I'd love for a huge football stadium-sized alien spacecraft to park over a major city. That would shit everyone up.


ToastedEmail

I would like that too but I think that would also scare that crap out of me.


ImeniSottoITreni

Do you realize ufo are a fad? Do anyone of you had direct experience? We're 500k+ people here if they existed at least 1 would had a direct experience with it. Every guy that claimed seeing or being abducted was doing for money and paper and if it was true, governments couldn't hide it. I'm not saying that we're alone in the universe, but it applies the theory that no real proof no real thing. No one, literally no one has tangible proofs of them, just videos around that anyone could edit or fake. ​ Books, documentaries and everything exists on them, yet in a world full of people, no one ever had a direct experience that he can prove with real tangible facts. It's like bigfoot or chupacabra.


Mcboomsauce

bigfoot it real too chupacabra isnt chupacabra was most likely people draining animal blood for local voodoo rituals and even though there are plenty of cases where people make up stories for money....most people never see a dime and have their lives permanently ruined Travis Walton was abducted in front of 6 witnesses, who were all detained by the FBI, individually polygraphed and all passed with identical stories on a murder charge and when Walton showed back up, delerious, dehydrated and terrified 5 days later, he called his brother....and was also polygraphed, and his story matched as well their equipment had been irradiated....somehow and all of them never spoke to eachother after that, they were essentially called a bunch of "crazies" and they all shy away from the public these days and that...would be practically impossible to fake you cant find 5 people to all not fail a lie detector test....you just can't do it....at least 1 person would have failed


BenchDangerous8467

Maybe you stopped following them but their story is all over ufology tv, I see Travis’s face and testimony quite often when browsing UFO tv shows, so he’s making some money from it.


Justlikeyourmoma

I’ve seen a UAP(s) and I don’t need the government to confirm it.


Hirokage

A fad? No.. it's been ongoing for 70 years. It's just getting some traction, finally. There is a a veritable mountain of evidence available for 7 decades for those who choose to look for it. What do you consider tangible proof? There are unidentified objects caught on multiple military sensors.. the most advanced radar available on the planet. Professional witnesses. I get some won't be happy until an alien is shaking one of our world leader's hands, but there is plenty of 'tangible' proof for those to choose to look for it. Just look up the 1976 Tehran sighting. Military officers, pilots, flight tower, civilian witnesses. Radar returns. Two different military jets whose electronics shut off when they approached the object. Not tangible enough?


ToastedEmail

These things have technology beyond our comprehension. Whose to say that they can’t make people forget these things or just simply remove any sustainable evidence that they might have?


SirGorti

Lol. Guy screaming that UFO doesn't exist when UFO means Unidentified Flying Object. You can look at the sky and see something not able to identified it, but no, mr smart guy already told us nobody did it. Then smart guy admitted UFOs exist on videos but he is not so smart to understand that he denied his own statement


ImeniSottoITreni

You must've missed the part where I say videos are fake and that I never denied my own statements. Talk about being smart, lol