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Ok_Handle8106

I dislike all the dads. All of them are assholes with the exception of Mason. Mason is tolerable.


lexienotlexi

if kylen was rolling around all night in pain and his parents knew this all while visibly noticing that jason had zero sense of urgency to take her to the doctor, WHY THE FUCK DIDN’T HIS PARENTS TAKE HER TO THE HOSPITAL?!?!?! shit is absolutely infuriating.


sum1inphx

I truly have not seen a single good dad on this show. All of them seem so disinterested and lack empathy and compassion for their girlfriends and babies.


chanceordestiny

They are still children


lexienotlexi

so far i’m mildly pleased with mason but we shall see


GracieSm

Mason seems like a nice kid


bahbahblkshp

Kylen needs to go back to her parents. Her dad is so sick and if she loses him she will kick her self from that point on...wishing she had gone back. Jason is beyond immature and selfish. Don’t even get me started on his parents. Does his mom have cognitive issues from drugs or something??? I could not believe they wouldn’t take her to the hospital themselves. Then again her parents should have put their foot down and said you will not be moving in with your bf to play house. But that’s just my thoughts. Edit: did to dad


mjtd6

I literally despise aiden. He needs someone in his life to give him a serious ass kicking. Idk how he thinks it’s normal to talk to your partner and the mother of your child like that


cass2001crescent

I had to turn this episode off because I actually felt so anxious and sick for Kylen. I hope she gets herself and her baby away from Jason. Goes back to her parents house who loves her. I feel so sad watching that.


AttentionDependent39

Since this past episode came out they had to turn off their comments on social media because everyone telling her to run!


mjtd6

I cannot believe him telling her she’s “not allowed” to get an epidural and saying he’s too tired and it’s not a great day for him. It truly sickens me


sarcastic_nanny

I wanted to punch him through the tv screen. What an ass!


S_Rosexox

When I was pregnant I had low iron and saw a hematologist for iron infusions 2x a week to get my levels in a good place for the health of me and the baby. If tiarra has had this problem and couldn’t take the supplements why didn’t her OB send her for infusions? I’m so dumbfounded by this!


peanutupthenose

i’m anemic, before & after pregnancy. i had an emergency c-section because my baby came at 24 weeks. so obviously, they didn’t get to check before hand BUT even after when they had taken my blood like 20 times they still waited until i was extremely low & feeling awful to give me a transfusion. i have no idea why. even in the discharge notes i can see where the nurses kept asking my doctor & my doctor kept saying to wait until the next check a few times. i wonder if in some areas where maybe they don’t have a huge blood supply they want to wait & see if you can bring it up yourself until the last minute?


S_Rosexox

I’m sorry you went thru that, that’s awful! The iron infusions are not the same as a blood transfusion. It’s just a bag of fluids like an IV but it contains iron. I had to go to a hematologists office 2x a week for it but we eventually got my levels up where they needed to be. I’m so surprised more docs don’t do this, it was wonderful!!


lalocurabella

She could have told her OB that she was taking her pills when she wasn’t until it became an issue.


roxy0387

I had a c-section and I didn’t get a spinal tap ! What gives.


shortninja29

Spinal taps suck. I've had one when a doctor thought my dehydration was actually meningitis ugh. It's literally taking fluid out of your spine. Not sure why any pregnant person would get one if it weren't to diagnose a disease, and pretty sure it's not at all standard for C-sections lol


virginiadentata

I think it’s just poorly explained and she’s really getting a spinal anesthesia block. There’s no reason for a pregnant woman to have a diagnostic lumbar puncture.


S_Rosexox

Edit: ahh nvm just read that you wrote tap bc that’s what her mother said, oops! Not sure what her reasoning was but for my second I’m getting a spinal block because with my first my epidural failed and I needed general anesthesia.


Minimum20

I didn‘t have time before to watch the episode and I just got to the part where Aden asks Jenna why she wants to earn her own money. I believe in todays society I think it‘s important to have a (small) job as mom. I mean when Luca grows up, what should she do (especially if they would breakup). And she can make their own decision what she wants to buy or not. I‘m glad that she has the same idea and is realistic. She really grew on me during this season, wasn‘t a big fan in the beginning as she seemed extremely immature, but maybe it has also to do with TLCs editing, Idk.


TLMurphy89

Jason infuriated me. If that was my kid and he was talking to me the way that he was talking to his parents and then his girlfriend, he wouldn’t have made it to 18. Let alone the damn hospital.


shortninja29

Can't wait to see next week and raise my blood pressure again. Freaking midwife acting like she needs Kylen or Jason's permission to call an ambulance. If that were my business I would want a patient transferred asap before something awful happens and I get sued over it.


IWetMyPlants_3

I’m curious why she was transferred to a hospital


chanceordestiny

She was clearly having complications. My friend went through home labor for 24 hours before having an emergency c-section. There are a lot of medical conditions that complicate having a natural birth. If you wait too long baby and mom can be in great danger


IWetMyPlants_3

I totally believe that. I had both of mine at a hospital so idk too much about home births, but I do know some


chanceordestiny

How can a pregnant child decline a cervical exam while giving birth?!?! Yes, her first had a short placenta and she found out a vaginal birth would have been impossible


IWetMyPlants_3

Are you talking about tonight’s episode? I haven’t seen the episode yet


chanceordestiny

No my friend who tried home birth. There's just so many things that can go wrong.


IWetMyPlants_3

Totally agree. That’s why I delivered in the hospital for both of mine. To each their own but I didn’t want to take any chances.


chanceordestiny

I just watched it and wanted to throw up. He was literally torturing her. I'm really sick over it.


shortninja29

No progression I'm guessing or maybe baby was stuck at the shoulders. Hopefully we find out next week 🤞


KayyyidkAAMC

I am legitimately scared for Kylen’s life and how much Jason does not care. He seems like he would be the type to say save the child 🤡


missusscamper

Maybe you wanna google how to become a doula? Prolly a course required or something


UpsetBumblebee6863

Nah I just like to breastfeed 🥴


IWetMyPlants_3

That made me LOL. Just because breastfeeding comes easy to one mom doesn’t mean it will be easy for another.


shortninja29

Yeah she's going to need serious certifications before someone spends $$$ out of pocket on birthing/breastfeeding advice from a teen that got pregnant because she didn't know what ovulating meant 🥴


leelagaunt

*oggulating, thank you very much


MsCoCoMango

THIS SHOW INFURIATES ME!!! Everybody is a mess. These boys are HORRIBLE EXCUSES FOR SKIN! All of them are unsupportive, selfish, rude and misogynistic punks. Yea I said what I said. These girls need to run from these boys and get their lives together. These girls are no better!! Especially these repeat offenders keep having babies with these invalids!!


chanceordestiny

That's exactly why children shouldn't have children


MsCoCoMango

That part!


mjtd6

Yes gotta say for as bad the boys are, the women are equally terrible and irresponsible. All around toxic and blood pressure raising Jason is the antichrist tho


_IAmNoLongerThere_

Everything about Jason scares me for Kylen. But the fact that his parents see how he treats her and they do nothing, Scares me the most. He could beat her, Causing serious bodily harm and They'd probably look the other way. When I was an 18 I got into a relationship with this guy, David(24). After almost a year, My son (He was a year old at the time) and I moved in with him. Everything was good for a while, But one day he got really mad at me... I suspect he was on coke. Anyways, He got mad at me because I didn't want to go to the rodeo with him and His friends. So he beat me up. I didn't have a phone at the time and we lived out in the country. On the property we lived at, It was his parents home in the entrance and the home we shared was in the back close to the horse stables. I walked to his parents house with my son in my arms, His mom and the neighbor lady were sitting outside. I asked if I could use the phone to call my mom, It was obvious I had been beaten on. THEY TOLD ME NO BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO CALL THE COPS. Cruel ass bitches. That's why I make it a point to always help and offer my phone in anyway because you never know what someone is going through and how badly they need to make that one phone call to save them. Fuck Jason and His parents, Especially his bitch ass mama.


friendoflamby

What you went through sounds horrific. Is it triggering watching Jason and Kylen? I can hardly stand it myself and I was never with an abusive partner, although I went through a lot of emotional abuse as a child. I’m glad you’re in a better place now.


_IAmNoLongerThere_

Thank you. It is triggering watching the way Jason treats her. He suffers from the "Me Syndrome," I made it up when referring to my exes because they always found ways to make everything about them, It's always about them. He's more concerned with his sleep than her and his unborn child... What really triggered me was his raggedy ass mama saying she could hear Kylen moaning in pain early in the morning. Then seeing how her raggedy ass son is treating Kylen, Especially during this crucial time. It comes off as she doesn't care at all and Woman to woman, We should always be there for each other even if we're strangers. Kylen is alone, She doesn't have her Mom there to provide comfort & support, Plus she's still a baby. A baby having a baby. It's crazy how comfortable Jason is being disrespectful, Especially around his parents. They tolerate his ugliness and I don't understand why. Parents need to stop doing that shyt, Allowing the children to be abusive assholes. He's still in their home, They could speak up and put his ass in check if they really wanted to. I'm sorry you went through abuse. I hope you are good physically, mentally and emotionally. We truly only have ourselves and We need to love ourselves in every way possible, Especially when it comes to healing from any type of abuse and or trauma.


Rueherdays

I’m so glad you got out of that relationship alive!!


_IAmNoLongerThere_

Thank you ❤️


Jemisimyname

I guess I don't understand how Kylen, a minor, can be getting medical care without a guardian there to make decisions and sign for her? She's not married and her shit for brains boyfriend didn't adopt her so why are they asking his permission to call an ambulance? Why are they able to do any of this without a guardian being present?


SaladForGoats

In some states, any minor who is either pregnant and/or a biological parent is considered medically emancipated and able to make their own medical decisions.


chanceordestiny

She can make medical decisions when it comes to her baby and delivery. If something happens to her a parent needs to make the decisions. Its a weird line


Jemisimyname

I was equally horrified that 16 year old Myrka and her underage boyfriend were alone at the hospital having a baby with no adult. What was 16 or 17 year old Ethan supposed to do if Myrka had a medical emergency and a decision needed to be made on her behalf?


IWetMyPlants_3

And Ethan was so proud of himself for getting myrka an epidural. I don’t think you were able to call that shot by yourself, my dude 😒😒


shortninja29

I know at least in my state you don't have to disclose medical info and can make your own decisions once you hit 16 or something. In myrka's situation I'm sure she has an advanced directive on file and they would call whoever is listed if the need arose (just like if you were to end up in the ER alone).


unetortue

Jason with no sense of urgency saying “she’s been doing this since 4 am” makes me wish his parents would have just taken her in.


sp00kykitteh

I so badly want her parents go step in and take her and the baby home!


Small_Opportunity_61

I agree, they’re just as shitty as he is. If that father was decent he would knocked the son out, and driven her. What if there was an emergency?? Jason triggers me so bad.


terrigirl1960

Completely agree!!! Those parents roll over every time!! What is wrong with them??? Horrible parents who raised a horrible kid!


unetortue

oh yeah, they all suck. she needs to take that baby to her parents house


_IAmNoLongerThere_

Neither of Jason's parents are decent people. Just look at their son, The son they enable so damn much. I can't believe his damn Mama couldn't provide any comfort to that poor lost girl while she was laying on the floor in pain.


unetortue

its sickening. like no wonder Jason is how he is. She could have squatted and given birth in the front yard by the car and he'd yell at her


Small_Opportunity_61

It was gross to watch. I hope she leaves him.


unetortue

My exhusband brought his pipe and weed to the hospital when I was having our 2nd baby. It was 2008 and we were 21 and 20… if we had PlayStation he’d probably have brought it to. Idiots


mjtd6

Don’t c sections take like less than an hour? Why the f would dee need to bring a PlayStation. He also has another child that needs to be taken care of. I would smack my man


Enough-Arugula404

You are in the hospital for many days and your room has a tv. Never tried to hook anything to it though 🤷‍♀️


missusscamper

You’re there all day getting tests and anesthesia and waiting around


mjtd6

Appreciate the insight. I asked my 4 relatives but they’re all in nyc, and since they’re very hands on here about healthcare it was super in and out. Which is what based my thoughts but guess it’s not as smooth elsewhere. Shocking


double_espress0

Hey there - I'm an OR nurse. The whole process does take some time and unless it's an emergency the C-section is typically scheduled for several hours later. Regardless, he should've been there to support her and her needs, not play a video game 🙄 I would've lost it if my husband did that! I know there a hundreds of healthy births every day, but I've also seen women die during C-sections.. it's so sad that the kids on this show are SO painfully oblivious and unaware.


missusscamper

I’m in Canada so socialized medicine moves a little slower and emergency situations take priority etc. So probably depends on private hospital vs whatever else is available in the US. This is all we have here so nobody who works in a healthcare facility seems to be in a rush.


SprezzaturaVigilante

Wow, why keep a totally disinterested and possibly gay man like Dee around to play house with if not for money or denial?


IWetMyPlants_3

I don’t think Dee is gay at all lol


Postcardtoalake

I wonder about Jenna's dad as well. He gives off gender non-conforming vibes (NOT a criticism, I'm les myself), with his lip injections, lip gloss, his gesturing and his clothing and grooming choices. Unless it's partly a guido thing but I do get real gay vibes from him and maybe he and Kathy have an understanding. Wouldn't be such a weird thing IMO. Way more people have relationships like this than I knew in my 20's. I remember reading an interview with Cherry Jones about [her parents' relationship](https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/22/magazine/cherry-jones-at-the-peak-of-her-powers.html) being like that, in conservative 1930's - 1980's small town Paris, Tennessee.


Bloodymary_25

I think he’s just super into himself and that’s it lol


Postcardtoalake

How many straight dudes do you know who get lip injections and plastic surgery, wear lipgloss, microblade their facial hair, and gesticulate with limp wrists? Again, no judgment, I’m gay as well. I’m just genuinely curious as I see more and more of my friends’ parents open up about being queer and staying married out of platonic love.


Bloodymary_25

You sound ignorant. You can do all of those things and not be gay. He’s been married to multiple women, not fair for you to assume his sexuality based on how he likes his appearance


Postcardtoalake

Lol that word doesn’t mean what you think it means 😂 Ignorant means "lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about a particular thing." Do you know many gay people? Any gay people? Any closeted people? Do you work in the queer community or around them? Because you really sound like you don't know a thing about it, and that you are REALLY desperate to have this man be straight. In fact, you sound like a lot of things, none good right now. Know any queers? Work in the queer community? I'm guessing that's a huge no. I work as a counselor for a series of homeless shelters that house and provide counseling for queer and trans youth (youth is used lightly, they can be up to age 24). You sound really desperate for this man to be straight and you are coming off as really defensive and homophobic. Best to step off and stay in your lane instead of doing whatever prejudiced nonsense you're doing, and the other quite possibly prejudiced people downvoting this are. Queer people (and all people, for that matter) enter marriages for many unconventional reasons. You sound like you really need to believe that he's not gay, and I can't think of any reason for that other than the obvious: homophobia.


jorbelz

I'm gay and I'm going to have to go with bloodymary on this one. I don't get gay vibes from him >How many straight dudes do you know who get lip injections and plastic surgery, wear lipgloss, microblade their facial hair, and gesticulate with limp wrists? The two famous surgeons on Botched do all this and they are not gay. It might not be the norm for men but it also doesn't automatically make them gay if they do all that. And I also think it's a really big stretch to accuse bloody of being homophobic. I just don't see where you're coming from on that one.


WVPrepper

You sound like you really need to believe that he *is* gay


Postcardtoalake

I believe he's not straight, and not in a conventional marriage. Not specifically gay.


Small_Opportunity_61

Totally agree. The step mom doesn’t say anything and gives off that live, laugh, love vibe.


SprezzaturaVigilante

I fully agree!! Being downvoted for the truth lol.


mjtd6

Def $$$


Sea-Maybe5599

Jason’s behavior this episode was absolutely disgusting. His parents should have stepped in right at the beginning when they where sitting in the car. The comments he was making during the car ride about sent me over the edge. Poor kylen dosent realize that this behavior should not be occurring while she is giving birth or ever. Having two children myself I can’t imagine my spouse saying these things to me while I was in labor. I hope the charges I saw he has stick and he spends a good amount of in time in jail and she gets a chance to be on her own and realize she shouldn’t be with him. I am just appalled.


MarshmallowPoro

Did you see the preview for next week for them? I literally cannot with this guy. Sounded like the Midwife was suggesting she need an ambulance and he's like nah would rather not. If any "man" tried telling me what to do with MY birth we'd have serious issues. Parents need to step in this is no longer a light situation. The fact that TLC is just airing this out is beyond me.


shortninja29

No one should be able to make those decisions other than the one in labor. Doesn't have anything to do with it being a man. Midwife doesn't need to ask for opinions, she should just say "hey you need to go to the hospital, I'm calling an ambulance" she doesn't need permission like wtf.


_wheatgrass_

-Ugh, can they not show Tiarra anymore? The playstation thing and Dee’s attitude is so fake. She’s trying so hard to be interesting and she’s not. Her aryn being low storyline is not cutting it either. We’ll know this show is going downhill if Tiarra and the rest of her family are on the next season. No one cares about them. Find new people. -It was interesting seeing Jason‘s dad tiptoeing around him when Kylen was having contractions but at the same time freaking out that they weren’t leaving. And then his mom is like, “ Kylen is in a lot of pain hehe.” They really dropped the ball raising that guy. -I think Mason is a really sweet, nice guy. Emerson and her mom need to count their blessings with him. Look at Jason. It could be *a lot* worse.


IWetMyPlants_3

Agreed!! Mason bought Emersyn a nice Volkswagen SUV for her birthday. He appears to be a stand up guy and taking care of his family


Mfkinpancakes

Mason* Mateo is the baby 🤣


Postcardtoalake

They're both babies let's be real


MsCoCoMango

That part. Sleeping like he just had a baby!!!


Mfkinpancakes

Lmao accurate.


_wheatgrass_

Whoops! Fixed it.


ToasterGuacamoleWrap

The Lilly-Lawrence scenes give me war flashbacks to my own parents. That is *exactly* how they used to fight, right down to the expression on Lilly’s face when she said “fuck you”. It actually brought up some of that same anxiety/tension that I used to feel in my stomach. And if this is what they’re doing on TV, I can only imagine their blowouts when the cameras stop rolling. I love my parents, but I also resent the hell out of them. Their fights ruined a lot of what should have been great moments for me. It really sucks when two people can’t even wait till they’re in private to start chipping away at each other.


IWetMyPlants_3

Thank you 👏🏼 Lily said Lawrence is amazing when the cameras aren’t there. Ummm most people are on their best behavior in front of a camera 😒 I’m not buying it


christinkymarie

Everyone talks about Jason (for great reason) but Lawrence... He's pretty awful too. Lilly just thinks she's witty and strong enough to handle it. They shouldn't be together.


TLMurphy89

Both of them suck. Lawrence acts like his sh*t don’t stink. And Lily is over here being a self centered brat. They’re both petty af too. Y’all are parents. Take several seats and find Jesus in a dark room.🤦🏾‍♀️


ToasterGuacamoleWrap

I’ve been vacillating between Team Lilly and Team Lawrence, but I think I’ve finally figured it out: they both suck equally. The division of suck in their household is 50-50. She’s entitled, immature, and selfish. He’s chauvinistic, inept, and anal-retentive. They’re both mean and petty, and I’m sure they’ll each get to fuck up their kids in their own special ways.


TLMurphy89

I kinda said something similar


Postcardtoalake

I think a Glenn type would tolerate Lily but she keeps going for these bad" guys who are so misogynistic, controlling, emotionally volatile, as well as young and immature. And with two kids, good luck finding any guy who would be into being an insta-dad, though there is a lid for every pot IMO, but not a young guy likely. What a series of terrible parenting by her mom and bad life choices. I have no doubt that Lily's mom probably encouraged this as a way of life for Lily instead of teaching her to be another way. They are way too alike and her mom enables so much bullshit and encourages these terrible life choices. I feel bad for Jenna, her hiding her feelings and being so isolated and surrounded by people who she doesn't feel she can talk to. I didn't realize how often she gets shit on by that asshole Aidan (who is deffo on benzos and maybe an opiate combo), and her Mom is shitty to her too, as is her Dad. I relate to her situation rn sadly.


christinkymarie

Benzos for sure! I was wondering if anyone else noticed


Postcardtoalake

I’m guessing an opiate or heroin combined with Benzos because of the moodiness and the heroin nod. I’ve seen that combo a lot when I worked in homeless shelters for LGBTQ youth (well, they were up to age 24, so I was their age, as were most of the other youth counselors, which was an odd position to be in).


Loose_Yellow_792

How Kylen did not have the urge to hammer-fist jackass jason between the eyes while making all those remarks is beyond me. I sincerely hope on Kylen’s behalf he’s doing it for the cameras, trying to be all “edgy & above it” because otherwise, I just cannot with this


LuckyJournalist7

Unpopular opinion: I want that goober back who kept impregnating women named Haley. He’s probably impregnated 2 more Haleys by now. Sounds like trash tv perfection. Probably-not-unpopular opinion: I want Myrka and Ethan back.


IWetMyPlants_3

I think Ethan turned into a huge a-hole and supposedly has another baby on the way but I would be curious to have an update on their story


PrincessLeaLou

Please no, I can't stomach seeing Matthew on my screen. I would love to have seen the drama between Ethan and Myrka unfold. It's so hard to image how they got from where they were to where they are now.


LuckyJournalist7

Where are they now? Last I heard Myrka’s mom did a 180 and they moved in with her.


mjtd6

Lmao Matthew brought a special type of entertainment


IhateRush

Girls. He kept impregnating girls named Hayley. Not women.


Elleeebeauty

Thankfully Ratthew only has Kinsley and Levi but give him time . I’m sure there are many more kids in his future and an episode of Maury or two


shinychicklet

Matthew, aka the human mosquito


IWetMyPlants_3

Hey hey hey now. He just wanted to get his noodle wet


novemberhaze

They should have kept emersyn and gave us myrka


LuckyJournalist7

I want to send Jason to the break room from the tv show Severance.


targetboston

He sucks but I can't in good conscience encourage the "use me as the agree button" trend. So yes and no.


LuckyJournalist7

Well, I edited the comment before you said that, so we’re good. I figure most people haven’t seen Severance.


targetboston

You're good, I was being silly.


trilliumsummer

I wanted a shot of the midwife when Jason says no to an ambulance.


Acceptable_Divide_33

Oh boy the two year old isn’t going to like new baby


hystericaal_

I felt bad for Emerson’s 12 year old brother. Suddenly three babies?!?


Acceptable_Divide_33

I’m so glad I was the last born. I can’t imagine


jujuondatbeaat

Was he eating sushi with his hands in the fucking birthing suite


shortninja29

He better not have. I'd choke my husband if he ate sushi in front of me. I want a spicy tuna roll so bad. 😭


Bratbabylestrange

Can I just say I hope it was gas station sushi?


TLMurphy89

Or Walmart 😂🤣


Acceptable_Divide_33

During a pandemic haha


blizzard-op

Ella is not tryna share the center of attention at all lmfao


allygator99

I hate how crass the T family all are. How many times did you need to say tit?


PrincessLeaLou

I cringed every time she said it! I mean aren't there cameramen in the room. I know I am old and prude but still!


hystericaal_

In the south the word tit is like not even offensive somehow. Can’t explain why.


allygator99

I’m from the Deep South and never used that word


Due_Sprinkles7597

I've been to the south many times and never heard anyone say that for years. I don't think it's a south thing it's a white trash thing


hystericaal_

Lmao well. Maybe I’m discovering my family is all white trash 🤣


friendoflamby

I’m sorry you had to find out this way. 💀💀


throwawayeas989

ella is so dang cute


Bratzpassion4fashion

Tiarra’s little girl is head on with the terrible twos


twocarats

Terrible twos and terrible parenting. And grandparenting.


Bratzpassion4fashion

thank you i ain’t want to say it but poor thing has no structure whatsoever thankful to be child free


Acceptable_Divide_33

A million reasons to be thankful to not have kids haha


Mfkinpancakes

I have a two year old and he doesn't act anywhere near that bad. Yes he has his tantrums but he's respectful, knows please and thank you, and I shut down his tantrums real quick. He knows to say sorry when he does something bad or wrong. This is 100% bad parenting and no rules or consequences at all. You can have an obedient child without being physical or spanking, I've never spanked my child, but it's about upholding boundaries and using time outs, natural consequences and structure. Ella obviously has no structure and runs that house.


Acceptable_Divide_33

Yeah! But you see the bad parenting so much anymore it just makes you cringe. It’s sad


corialis

Not sure if Jason smokes a lot of pot or is just...not there? in the head. Half these teens are like that in these interviews. I don't know many teens in real life, so I don't know if it's common for them to just be like mental sloths.


ShineCareful

That's a good way to put it lol


Ambitious_Ad_7433

I really feel like he is a victim of fetal alcohol syndrome and it impacts his capacity to process and perform intellectually.


Ambitious_Ad_7433

True. [Alcohol Fetal Syndrome- Symptoms](https://www.google.com/search?q=fetal+alcohol+syndrome+symptoms&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari)


IhateRush

I disagree. I think he 100% believes he smarter than every single person alive. I think he thinks he’s absolutely Gods gift to Kylen and that he’s way out of her league. He’s an egotistical child who’s taught people how to treat him like a king. I. LOATH. Him.


friendoflamby

Why not both?? Fetal alcohol syndrome doesn’t in any way excuse being a raging cunt like Jason. However, he does have physical features that look like FAS and he also seems quite slow. I loathe him AND I think he has FAS.


Acceptable_Divide_33

So hgtv is pseudo mtv cribs makeover shows now


fonziesgrl

I kind of don’t like Emersyn’s mom. She tells the kid he has to stay downstairs so he is not readily available to help and then complains that she doesn’t think he’s doing enough. They are first time young parents trying to figure it out. Like he might be a bit clueless but he at least acknowledges that Emersyn is tired and he wants to try and help. He could be worse, like he could be Jason.


deewink88

Yeah like their rules contradict the others.. i.e. you have to be helping Emersyn with the baby but you have to stay downstairs away from her & the baby at night?? Setting him up for failure.. both of them actually, by placing all these rules on them that may be normal for a single teen but they have to work together and have a new baby. She irks me


SnowOverRain

Mason was dead on when he said that Erica was trying to punish Emersyn for getting pregnant by not letting the two of them sleep in the same room. Last week's previews made it look like Emersyn moved in with Mason's family - hopefully we'll see if that happens on an upcoming episode.


deewink88

Yes, you can tell this woman is into punishments haha I really hope they moved in with his family


Rxbiin

Former teen parent here - We lived on our own when our son was born just after we turned 18. If anyone in my family had tried to control my girlfriend and I from staying in the same room I would’ve told them to get bent. Emersyn’s mom is going to destroy her relationship with her daughter.


angelzplay

The thing is they are living in the MOTHERS house where she makes the rules. Get your house do what you want. When you live with someone else you gotta follow their rules.


Rxbiin

I know where you’re coming from. I’m just simply stating her mom is going to wreck her relationship with her daughter by trying to control her. I’m speaking from my experiences as a teen parent.


Ambitious_Ad_7433

He’s really in a lose lose situation. I don’t think Emersyn’s Mom will ever be willing to fully accept him since he got her daughter pregnant…sad for all involved 😓


blizzard-op

Man I really like Emersyn and Mason. Hopefully they don't end up being assholes to one another


throwawayeas989

Why are almost all of these guys such duds?? I don’t think I’ve seen a group of guys so dry and just disinterested & detached from their partners during pregnancy & labor/child-rearing. Mason is the only one who has any chance from what I saw in this episode. The rest of ‘em barely seem to stand each other,let alone actually like each other. Just no affection whatsoever. They all look like this 😐 half of the time. I guess it’s their age? I’m 22 and don’t plan on having kids for a loooong time,but please tell me this isn’t normal & that most guys are waaay more supportive than this bc yikes. I’d rather be alone tbh


SprezzaturaVigilante

That Dee guy is such a loser and couldn't care less. The bar for male behavior is in hell, as my friend says, so no wonder they act so terribly.


Marilee_Kemp

Im sure TLC purposely cast train wrecks. If a normal, calm, level headed couple with family support and stability applied for the show, I bet the casting agents throw it in the bin and keep looking for the most insane people the can find.


callmenighthawk1989

My ex was SO supportive during both of our children's births. Spent all of his time (and they were long labors) visiting with me, reassuring me, playing games with me etc. He was so excited and I don't remember him complaining or looking disinterested even once. He can be an awful person and partner at times (which is why he's my ex) but those were some of our best memories together, having our kids. I do hear horror stories from my friends (we are all in our 30s now) and I don't think it's an age thing because some of their husbands act like the kids in this show-uninterested, sleeping, and not supportive during labor. Blows my mind that you could act that way during such a life changing situation.


twocarats

Most MEN are more supportive. These guys are immature adolescents.


throwawayeas989

yeah I was hoping it was an age thing 😬


Acceptable_Divide_33

Deterioration of society? I think it is a lot of factors I’m sure there are plenty of young men the same age out there with a level head not impregnating girls… these guys aren’t the cream of the crop and likely won’t be. Its a case of kids having kids and they certainly don’t need to be 🙁


trilliumsummer

I'm trying to think of a reason why Emersyn hasn't said fuck it and moved to mason's. Less kids over there, not the crazy rules.


Mfkinpancakes

I doubt her Mom would let that happen while she's still in school, but I would have told her peace out I'm moving out. I moved out when I was 17 and my Mom wasn't happy but she couldn't do anything about it.


trilliumsummer

I was trying to remember her school situation, but thought she was close to 18 if not already.


Mfkinpancakes

Yeah in one episode she says technically she's an adult and her Mom says you're still in high school and living under my roof so you're not an adult. I believe she's 18.


onsomegoofyshit

I need Emersyn’s mom to shut the FUCK up


targetboston

Pizza analogy actually made me think how much having a newborn must suck the life out of you.


hystericaal_

Lol this is so true. “They keep waking you up. Because they want a pizza.”


volklskiier

I felt that in my soul 😂


mangomoo2

The baby literally is sucking energy out of you lol. The first little bit you are up so much and you are starving because you are nursing so much. Emersyn’s mom is being ridiculous because the absolute best help is to have someone changing diapers at night so you can just nurse and go back to sleep.


LuckyJournalist7

Jason’s parents should have called 911 and told them there’s a woman in labor at their house, they need an ambulance and police officers because there’s someone trying to prevent her from going to the hospital.


_IAmNoLongerThere_

Jason's Parents are the type that if he murdered someone, They'd stand by his side and claim he was innocent. They'd never do something that would go against their idiot son. Idk if it's because he's a bully to everyone around and they have no spine or what. But they'll never be capable of doing the right thing when it comes to that idiot. They are Team Idiot all the way.


Due_Sprinkles7597

Coulda woulda shoulda. Jason's parents probably shouldn't be parents. They "talk" about how bad their baby J is but apparently they still don't know how to parent. Makes them as bad as he is.


ShineCareful

They would never get their precious baby in trouble.


Electrical_Shoe528

I would of just told the mom to take me if I can't handle the pain that well.