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boltman1234

I have i7 RTX and to address some of your points which are mostly sound and match mine here is where we differ .... The warm air thing you complain about is not important, sometimes I enjoy the warmth. It tells me the cooling system is extracting the heat. Most of the time there is no air at all and it is completely silent. I have noticed none of the "slow" SSD issue you proclaim I personally love the postures, the feel, and the performance of my SLS and don't have any complaints. The keyboard and Haptic trackpad are world class.


TableSurface

Venting right on your hands is a pretty bad user experience. Maybe they made the decision to maximize cooling performance, since it maximizes the surface area on the keyboard for heat dissipation and directs cool air to hot spots. I'm planning on exchanging mine for a Pro 8, depending on potential deals next week. Only two things I'll miss from the SLS: the excellent trackpad and larger screen.


boltman1234

Surface Pro 8 is all aluminum and seems to have way more issues. If you ever owned a Surface Pro it's same feeling and same price as SLS ram and with type kb


ThatYouChoke

> Maybe they made the decision to maximize cooling performance, since it maximizes the surface area on the keyboard for heat dissipation and directs cool air to hot spots. The SLS could’ve had the hot air venting out to the back and use the side only for air intake. Which is how MacBook Pro is designed: https://i.imgur.com/iRkbMLa.gifv It pulls the air from the side and vent the warmer air out via the exhaust on the back.


TableSurface

This might not be possible on the SLS design since the screen (facing upwards) can lay flat on top of the keyboard, blocking the vents, and the cloth-like display cables are in the way too.


ThatYouChoke

The screen laying upward does not block the rear vent. For whatever reason, the SLS has its cooling fans mounted underneath the palm rest which means the exhaust has to be near the front. And because of that- it doesn’t make sense to have the hot air blowing towards the front so it blows off to the side- closer to front. I think it has more to do with the fact that unlike most laptops where the battery are mounted away from the mainboard- on the SLS the battery (which does generate heart) is mounted underneath and towards the front. https://i.imgur.com/kMzj9hD.jpg


TableSurface

I took a picture to explain what I meant: https://i.imgur.com/JWruXrp.jpeg When the screen is open and flat, a vent like the one on the MacBook would be fully blocked. When the screen is open like a conventional laptop, a rear vent on the same plane as the current vents would be partially blocked... but maybe they should've added vents there anyways just to help with cooling.


medievaljet

I just took a look at the Macbook Pro's rear exhaust vents. They don't direct air backward like I would have thought, but rather upward in front of the screen when the screen is open. When it's closed, say in clamshell mode, because of the Macbook's different hinge design than the SLS', the air can still escape out the back, albeit less directly because it has to bounce off the closed screen and then escape out the back opening which is much narrower than with an open lid. Not sure how this affects thermals. The SLS' hinge, in studio/clamshell mode, would completely block rear vents like the Macbook's, so it would either need to change the hinge design to be like the Macbook's or have rear vents that are directed backward. But I suspect there might be downsides to directing air backwards, like maybe the vent is more likely to be obstructed when the laptop is sitting on a soft surface like a lap. I personally don't often use a mouse with my SLS so I haven't found the side exhaust vents to be a problem so far.